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where did my storage space go?

Hey for some days now i have not been able to instal any apps, then i checked how much space i have left on the phone and it was 2mb. now here is the thing, i got 8 apps and they are together 5mb... I have tried to delete catch stuff etc and i got nothing more, so what happend to my storage space?

Appbrain
-Create an appbrain account
-Install appbrain on your phone
-Sync
-Go appbrain website and click 'My Apps'
Do this to double check what you have installed.
If you're rooted, what rom are you using?
To clean my cache, i use Cache Cleaner NG.

Copy paste from another post i just made.
This has always been a problem with my desire until i found out about AlphaRev. Now i've got 166MB free internal space. My suggestion is to install AlphaRev and modify the partition tables as listed in the tutorial on alpharev.nl. I would have posted a link but i can't post links yet.

From terminal emulator or adb shell type this (root required)
su
du -md 2 /data > /sdcard/data.txt
Then open your favourite file explorer and take a look at data.txt on your sdcard to find the culprit. In the file should be a list of directories and their size, just look for the biggest one.

mercianary said:
From terminal emulator or adb shell type this (root required)
su
du -md 2 /data > /sdcard/data.txt
Then open your favourite file explorer and take a look at data.txt on your sdcard to find the culprit. In the file should be a list of directories and their size, just look for the biggest one.
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nsain said:
Hey for some days now i have not been able to instal any apps, then i checked how much space i have left on the phone and it was 2mb. now here is the thing, i got 8 apps and they are together 5mb... I have tried to delete catch stuff etc and i got nothing more, so what happend to my storage space?
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Root your phone, and the go and Install Starburst ROM, its super fast, stable and I have 1.7gb of internal storage space to install apps
Make sure you have a class 4 SD card or better, trust me it will be the best thing you have done to your phone.
P.S dont forget to backup all your apps and stuff.
shankly1985

[Q] How to free up space on amazon fire tv?

Hi all,
I rooted my fire tv. i downgrade firmware and installed CWM, install rbox bootloader, then upgrade pre-rooted firmware by rbox. Now when i check under setting --> system -> about i see 3.61gb free space from 5.49gb available space. I don't have a lot app installed in my rooted fire tv so i didnt think what i have installed would taken up 2gb. Here is what i have installed.
Google play store, kodi, llama, es file explore, busybee box, supersu, chrome, firefox and the whatever was required to gain root access, upgrade and downgrading firmware and whatever app is pre-installed from pre-rooted firmware.
Is there way to check which apps and files are taking up the most space and how do you free up space?
Also, does this sound right that only 3.59gb is left. At one point during my root process when i was pushing update.zip file thru adb to downgrade firmware, it took a very long so i exit out of adb (i simply click on "x" bar to close the connection) and started again but i am not sure maybe i installed update.zip file 2x. How do i check? How do ensure i don't have any unnecessary file on fire tv internal drive.
Thank you

I have 3 FireTVs, all rooted and they have between 3.0G to 3.4G free space so I say your free space is within reasonable range

lowbee said:
I have 3 FireTVs, all rooted and they have between 3.0G to 3.4G free space so I say your free space is within reasonable range
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hi thanks for posting back. Makes me feel better but still out of 8gb user only has 3.5gb, not ideal. i wonder where did the 5gb go.
I am curious to hear from others to see how they cleaned up space, if there are any methods.

I'd have to say kodi might be the culprit taking a lot of space with excessive data storage.
Anything similar to xbmc can be a resource hog for storage.

ashsha7877 said:
hi thanks for posting back. Makes me feel better but still out of 8gb user only has 3.5gb, not ideal. i wonder where did the 5gb go.
I am curious to hear from others to see how they cleaned up space, if there are any methods.
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You don't get 8GB of usable space. I think it is only about 5GB. So you are using about 1.5 GB for apps. Not too bad if you are running Kodi.

An easy way to check where files are taking up space is to use the "sdcard analyze" function in esfile explorer. Its under the tools section. Also, with esfile explorer, you can push files from your phone to the firetv pretty easy too. Select whatever file you want to send on your phone, under options choose send, and make sure esfile explorer is open on the firetv too. The firetv prompts you for where you want to save the file.

ashsha7877 said:
Hi all,
I rooted my fire tv. i downgrade firmware and installed CWM, install rbox bootloader, then upgrade pre-rooted firmware by rbox. Now when i check under setting --> system -> about i see 3.61gb free space from 5.49gb available space. I don't have a lot app installed in my rooted fire tv so i didnt think what i have installed would taken up 2gb. Here is what i have installed.
Google play store, kodi, llama, es file explore, busybee box, supersu, chrome, firefox and the whatever was required to gain root access, upgrade and downgrading firmware and whatever app is pre-installed from pre-rooted firmware.
Is there way to check which apps and files are taking up the most space and how do you free up space?
Also, does this sound right that only 3.59gb is left. At one point during my root process when i was pushing update.zip file thru adb to downgrade firmware, it took a very long so i exit out of adb (i simply click on "x" bar to close the connection) and started again but i am not sure maybe i installed update.zip file 2x. How do i check? How do ensure i don't have any unnecessary file on fire tv internal drive.
Thank you
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You can free up quite a bit by pushing these advanced settings to
<advancedsettings>
<pathsubstitution>
<substitute>
<from>/storage/emulated/0/Android/data/org.xbmc.xbmc/files/.xbmc/userdata/Thumbnails/</from>
<to>/storage/usb/drive1/xbmcthumbnails/</to>
</substitute>
</pathsubstitution>
</advancedsettings>
You need to amend to kodi instread of xbmc if you're running 14.0 or higher AND my external is mounted by adbFire mount drives persistent. If you're using stickmount it would be sda (forget exact path?)
Once pushed and confirmed working, all your thumbnails will dissapear. Just go into userdata/database and delete textures13. Then restart xbmc.
Afterwards I also delete the thumbnails folder on internal. Oh yes...make sure you have a folder on external named xbmcthumbnails.
This should immediately clear about 600 mb and keep in mind you typically add more to your library so the amount it saves long term could be huge.

KLit75 said:
You can free up quite a bit by pushing these advanced settings to
<advancedsettings>
<pathsubstitution>
<substitute>
<from>/storage/emulated/0/Android/data/org.xbmc.xbmc/files/.xbmc/userdata/Thumbnails/</from>
<to>/storage/usb/drive1/xbmcthumbnails/</to>
</substitute>
</pathsubstitution>
</advancedsettings>
You need to amend to kodi instread of xbmc if you're running 14.0 or higher AND my external is mounted by adbFire mount drives persistent. If you're using stickmount it would be sda (forget exact path?)
Once pushed and confirmed working, all your thumbnails will dissapear. Just go into userdata/database and delete textures13. Then restart xbmc.
Afterwards I also delete the thumbnails folder on internal. Oh yes...make sure you have a folder on external named xbmcthumbnails.
This should immediately clear about 600 mb and keep in mind you typically add more to your library so the amount it saves long term could be huge.
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Is that going to make loading thumbnails A LOT SLOWER??

Neo3D said:
Is that going to make loading thumbnails A LOT SLOWER??
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That's actually a good question. I've been using these so long I don't have a memory of exactly how fast they loaded before. I'll say this--they populate fast enough for me to keep using them. I use usb 3.0. I think it's essential based on how big my library is and the fact I use aeon nox with additional fanart.
But, I'd be very interested in seeing if you or someone else sees a significant lag in load times. You can always delete the xml if you find it slow.
Just an fyi I got these from an xda member awhile back. Since then lots of people have tried them and so far I haven't hear complaints, but I'd still like feedback from someone who can compare.

Another suggestion is to pre-scrape all the necessary support files with a media manager of your choice (e.g. fanart, icon, content info, etc.) and switch to local info only on the scraper for the collection. It depends also on how you have your collection organized from a folder perspective.
I found this to be fastest and lightest on local storage (obviously because the "library" is already built) especially when you have a household of streamers. You have all the content centralized on your NAS already. It's silly for streaming box to build the library and re-download the content each time from the Internet (especially if your like me as a perpetual media player tinkerer).
Edit: For clarity, I mean a "Library manager." Look on the Kodi wiki for links to various clients on your preferred OS.

t3ch42 said:
An easy way to check where files are taking up space is to use the "sdcard analyze" function in esfile explorer. Its under the tools section. Also, with esfile explorer, you can push files from your phone to the firetv pretty easy too. Select whatever file you want to send on your phone, under options choose send, and make sure esfile explorer is open on the firetv too. The firetv prompts you for where you want to save the file.
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Good to know this. Are there any other setup steps required to be able to do this? Or do you just have es file explorer installed and opened on both phone and FTV?

RuKuS4Life said:
Good to know this. Are there any other setup steps required to be able to do this? Or do you just have es file explorer installed and opened on both phone and FTV?
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That's it. As long as the two are on the aame network, it should pick up the firetv as a target.
To clarify, on the phone, long click the file to send, and select send. The firetv ip adress will show up and allow you to send the file. When the prompt shows up on the firetv(provided that esfile explorer is the active and open app), accept the transfer and select tge location to store the transferred file.

t3ch42 said:
That's it. As long as the two are on the aame network, it should pick up the firetv as a target.
To clarify, on the phone, long click the file to send, and select send. The firetv ip adress will show up and allow you to send the file. When the prompt shows up on the firetv(provided that esfile explorer is the active and open app), accept the transfer and select tge location to store the transferred file.
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I got sdmaid. It recovered about 1.5gb. Get the pro version from google play.

How to clean up space?

Hi guys,
I've had some failed attempts at installing Kodi via adbFire, and through the process, I noticed the space on my AFTV decreased after every failed attempt. I've finally been able to install Kodi successfully, but I would like to get back that 400MB or so of space that I lost. Are there any apps that I should know about that makes this process easy? Thanks all!

tektronik said:
Hi guys,
I've had some failed attempts at installing Kodi via adbFire, and through the process, I noticed the space on my AFTV decreased after every failed attempt. I've finally been able to install Kodi successfully, but I would like to get back that 400MB or so of space that I lost. Are there any apps that I should know about that makes this process easy? Thanks all!
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That's odd that it failed yet data obviously something made its way there...I have es file explorer but you could use anything file manager I think. Go to sd card/android/data then see if there's more than 1 xbmc/kodi folders. Maybe you tried installing helix 14.0 and Gotham? But it shouldn't add up to 400mb I don't think???
There are many file cleaning programs. I use sd maid pro but you can find some free apks on playstore.

I use a combo of DU Speed Booster and SD Maid Pro. Together they seem to work the best. I do a cleaning with DU Speed Booster then follow with a cleaning of SD Maid Pro. For some reason they both do not clean the same stuff so regardless of which one I use first, there is still things that are left that can be cleaned by the other app. I always liked SD Maid Pro the best, til I used DU Speed Booster, and in my opinion DU Speed Booster is by bar the best cleaning tool for android.

I use a file manager app to maintain my space and be able to navigate through all my folders, etc. etc. FX File Explorer is awesome for this task. The app does not work with the remote, so you will need to attach a mouse to your Fire TV. Once you sideload and install the app, run it and click on Cleaning Tools. It will then show you what folders are using up most of the storage and its percentage. You can then navigate accordingly and delete what you need. I'm rooted so I do not remember if you also need to be rooted in order to use the cleaning feature. I will include both, the FX.apk and the root permissions apk just in case.
I took screen shots of my Fire TV storage so that you can see how it works. At the moment 98% of my storage being used is located in the Android folder of my /sdcard. If you go into the sub-folders, then you find out that the XBMC folder is using of that storage. Dig in deeper and then you see that the addons and userdata folders of XBMC are the ones using up that storage. (This is normal though)
Here are both links I mentioned above:
If memory serves me right, I'm almost positive you will need to install both. (You will need to be rooted for the 2nd apk)
FX.apk
https://www.dropbox.com/s/u17hn8v5s4ceq1q/FX-root.apk?dl=0
FX-root.apk
https://www.dropbox.com/s/u17hn8v5s4ceq1q/FX-root.apk?dl=0

Is there a way to format internal so no apps, no hidden rom zip files, etc are left?

So I just got the newest ROM 5.1.1.5 installed after almost bricking my FTV. During the process of trying to Unbrick it I was loading different versions of Rom's onto my FTV.
When I finally unbricked it and got 5.1.1.5 installed I only have like 300 MB left. I tried to delete some of the ROMs with rm -f command but I can't remember if I always put the ROM files in /sdcard/0 or /sdcard.
Is there a way to clean out the whole internal memory so it like a brand new FTV that has just been rooted and no apps or anything put on the internal drive? Anyone know about how many GB should be free in a new FTV with no apps or anything installed?
Thanks.

yazyazoo said:
So I just got the newest ROM 5.1.1.5 installed after almost bricking my FTV. During the process of trying to Unbrick it I was loading different versions of Rom's onto my FTV.
When I finally unbricked it and got 5.1.1.5 installed I only have like 300 MB left. I tried to delete some of the ROMs with rm -f command but I can't remember if I always put the ROM files in /sdcard/0 or /sdcard.
Is there a way to clean out the whole internal memory so it like a brand new FTV that has just been rooted and no apps or anything put on the internal drive? Anyone know about how many GB should be free in a new FTV with no apps or anything installed?
Thanks.
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In recovery there is an option "wipe /data" or something like that.

Hdd space shrinking fast on my Firetv box

FireTV Box Gen 1
S/W: 51.1.6.3 Rooted
About a week ago, I noticed I only had about 1.56 GB of space left on my box. I assumed Kodi was the culprit, so I removed much of Kodi's data, thumbnails, addons, etc. I got Kodi down to around 600 MB, but realized the extra space gained wasn't much, putting the storage capacity at 1.63 GB. So I removed a couple of apps leaving only 4 or 5 that together may take up 50 MB. I don't use anything on the Firetv but Kodi, so I can't figure out what is eating up all my space, and it has gotten worse. It now shows I only have 873 MB of 5.49 GB, yet Kodi is only using about 750 MB.
Running ES File Explorer's SD Card Analyzer shows that under the heading: Others - 3.73 GB is used. The problem is it will not let me view what is in it or delete any of it. I would love to know what is consuming all of this space. I tried other apps like, CCleaner, and SD Maid but they didn't even recognize this 3.73 GB of unaccounted data.
Any suggestions as to how to identify where all my storage space is going, and mostly, free it back up? I realize the OS uses some of the storage space, but I don't recall it ever being this much.
Thank you

Modify_inc said:
Any suggestions as to how to identify where all my storage space is going, and mostly, free it back up? I realize the OS uses some of the storage space, but I don't recall it ever being this much.
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I had a similar issue with my AFTV2 (see my post earlier in this forum). Clearly, the issue is in /data. Go to that directory and run the following as root in a shell: du -h -d 1
This will list the disk usage by directory. The biggest hogs will usually be: data, app, dalvik-cache, and media. Go to each of those directories and check the du. Rinse and repeat. In my case, it was the FTV Launcher (in particular, the file /data/data/com.amazon.tv.launcher/databases/mbcache.db). Yours could be different, but the disk usage will reveal the problem. If it's not obvious, compare the output of du -h -d 1 every 24 hours or so (you could cat it to a file) and you will find the culprit.

retyre said:
I had a similar issue with my AFTV2 (see my post earlier in this forum). Clearly, the issue is in /data. Go to that directory and run the following as root in a shell: du -h -d 1
This will list the disk usage by directory. The biggest hogs will usually be: data, app, dalvik-cache, and media. Go to each of those directories and check the du. Rinse and repeat. In my case, it was the FTV Launcher (in particular, the file /data/data/com.amazon.tv.launcher/databases/mbcache.db). Yours could be different, but the disk usage will reveal the problem. If it's not obvious, compare the output of du -h -d 1 every 24 hours or so (you could cat it to a file) and you will find the culprit.
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Thank you very much!
The mbcache.db was also my culprit, at 3.11 GB. I deleted it and I now have 3.96 GB of free space. That size just seems ridiculous for a database. Not sure what caused it to get so big, but it had to go.

retyre said:
Go to that directory and run the following as root in a shell: du -h -d
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I'm not very familiar with FTV yet. Would you share just how to do that? I have an unrooted FTV2/5.2.1.1.
Thank you.
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Modify_inc said:
Thank you very much!
The mbcache.db was also my culprit, at 3.11 GB. I deleted it and I now have 3.96 GB of free space. That size just seems ridiculous for a database. Not sure what caused it to get so big, but it had to go.
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Do you know what mbcache.db is created by?

That's so weird. This just started happening to me about a week ago with the same box and software. I also thought it was Kodi so I removed it and started from scratch, but that didn't solve the problem. I usually start with around ~2 GB free, but after watching a movie or show for a while (or sometimes doing nothing at all) the little box would pop up telling me to remove apps because I'm running out of space. It would often take hours for my free space to go back to normal and rebooting the box didn't help.
Thanks for the command, retyre. I'll give it a try next time this happens.

This works. Thanks

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Can someone please list step by step how to access and delete the mbcache.db file? Thanks

YOgun27 said:
Can someone please list step by step how to access and delete the mbcache.db file? Thanks
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This worked for me: https://www.andryou.com/2017/01/04/amazon-fire-tv-fix-low-storage-error/

thanks for asking this question and for the replies. Exactly what I came here looking for!

I successfully deleted the mbcache.db file, and now I can't get most of my apps to work on the Fire TV, even if I use Firestarter. I tried to put the mbcache.db file back, and even tried a factory reset to no avail. Can somebody tell me how to get the Fire TV back to it's previous state, where I can access apps like Amazon Prime Video?

YOgun27 said:
I successfully deleted the mbcache.db file, and now I can't get most of my apps to work on the Fire TV, even if I use Firestarter. I tried to put the mbcache.db file back, and even tried a factory reset to no avail. Can somebody tell me how to get the Fire TV back to it's previous state, where I can access apps like Amazon Prime Video?
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I upgraded to PreRooted FireOS 5 when I encountered the same problem after deleting some .dB files. Although my problem was only with YouTube.

I had locked my mscache.db back in January using the command chmod 0 mscache.db due to the massive space it was taking up. The Loading...Please wait message on the main page wasn't a big deal since I didn't use any of it.
Well, I finally got around to installing TWRP, which I then installed the pre-release 5.2.1.2_r1 update. It seemed to install without any issues, though I noticed I still had the Loading...Please Wait message, and the menu interface still looked the same as before. It doesn't look anything like the new interface as on the Gen 2 boxes (Isn't it suppose to?) Thinking it may have something to do with the mbcache.db still being locked, I checked the permissions on it and noticed it still had no permissions. Assuming the permissions should be the same as the other databases in the same folder, I typed chmod 660 mbcache.db. I verified it changed and confirmed the permissions matched with the other files in the database folder. I rebooted the box, and yet I still have the same continuous Loading... message, which always eventually says "We are currently unable to contact our servers."
Now that I have the mbcache.db unlocked, should I try reinstalling 5.2.1.2_r1 over itself or does someone have a better idea? Is it even safe to install the same version over itself?
Update: I confirmed the database files are being written to because the timestamps have changed from the previous date of 2017-01-03 to 2017-07-08 (current date).
Thank you

Y314K said:
I upgraded to PreRooted FireOS 5 when I encountered the same problem after deleting some .dB files. Although my problem was only with YouTube.
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Thanks for the input. Do you know where I can find a guide to upgrade to PreRooted FireOS 5? I can't seem to find it on AFTVnews.

YOgun27 said:
Thanks for the input. Do you know where I can find a guide to upgrade to PreRooted FireOS 5? I can't seem to find it on AFTVnews.
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Everything I know is based on this guide:
http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-install-twrp-custom-recovery-on-a-rooted-fire-tv-1/
But I expand about my experience on updating from FireOS 3 to FireOS 5 from the 4th post here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/help-to-unroot-fire-tv-to-original-t3612898
Read the whole guide tread. And don't get started until you know what you are doing. Everybody's starting point is different. So everybody needs to mod the Guide to their situation.

New issue, I've updated and downgraded many times. Now when I try to upgrade to 51.1.6.3 from 51.1.6.2 I get an error message when trying to push the zip file. Here is the log:
[email protected]:/ # adb push /Users/user1/update.zip /sdcard/
cannot stat '/Users/user1/update.zip': No such file or directory
I've searched similar problems, and tried every fix I can think of to no avail. Is it possible to get this zip file in the sdcard directory any other way??

YOgun27 said:
New issue, I've updated and downgraded many times. Now when I try to upgrade to 51.1.6.3 from 51.1.6.2 I get an error message when trying to push the zip file. Here is the log:
[email protected]:/ # adb push /Users/user1/update.zip /sdcard/
cannot stat '/Users/user1/update.zip': No such file or directory
I've searched similar problems, and tried every fix I can think of to no avail. Is it possible to get this zip file in the sdcard directory any other way??
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I normally just use a Fat32 USB drive with all the files I'll need organized in separate clearly labeled folders.

Y314K said:
I normally just use a Fat32 USB drive with all the files I'll need organized in separate clearly labeled folders.
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Do you mean put the zip file on a USB drive, which I then plug into the Fire TV? If so, I do I then get to the boot loader screen if the USB drive is occupying where I would plug in the keyboard?

YOgun27 said:
Do you mean put the zip file on a USB drive, which I then plug into the Fire TV? If so, I do I then get to the boot loader screen if the USB drive is occupying where I would plug in the keyboard?
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I use a powerless USB hub to connect both at the same time.

Y314K said:
I use a powerless USB hub to connect both at the same time.
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thanks, I've made some progress and was able to use your program to update to 51.1.6.3. I also used the Downloader program to transfer TWRP 3.0.0-7.img. However now, i don't know how to install that without ADB. And when I put in the dd command, it says no such file or directory. Is there any other way to run this command?
Also, i can't seem to get out of [email protected], even if I run "adb shell" command. Could that be the issue?