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Hi all,
sorry for my bad english iam a german user.
I have an Magic and a Desire, my Magic is rooted because the original Rom is stupid and slow....
Why should i root my Desire. I Like the original rom, its fast, very good functions (like sense, htc tether, and the other htc features)....
i dont know if there a desire rom that has all the same functions include root....
Thanks for your help..
Erm...then don't root it.
he's asking if by Rooting it he loses the HTC functions
Why shouldn't you root?
You can have the same exact ROM as the stock, but with root. Check the rooting procedure from modaco.
By rooting, you'd lose nothing. If I had a Desire, I'd surely root it even if I decided I wanted to keep the stock ROM. There's little to no risk, so no reason to hold back
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And how about warranty?
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And how about warranty?
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same question,
on my magic i can recover all (SPL, Recovery, ROM etc) with the sapphimg.nbh and on the desire?
stingerpl said:
Why shouldn't you root?
You can have the same exact ROM as the stock, but with root. Check the rooting procedure from modaco.
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He's basically said he loves the features, he's happy with it and everything is working fine...so I'm saying, use it and leave it.
Why root if there's no specific reason to do so apart from "you can"?!
It's like the thread that's just popped up asking if SetCPU is working yet...why? Is the CPU too slow as it is? Just because you can doesn't mean you should for no good reason other than you're bored.
the good reason to root the phone is to get apps2sd which currently isnt working too well for some people,
however, apparently google with the 2.2 software which will be out soon will bring the apps to sd functionality, so i will wait till then as so far dont see the point of doing so
PsYDoX said:
Hi all,
sorry for my bad english iam a german user.
I have an Magic and a Desire, my Magic is rooted because the original Rom is stupid and slow....
Why should i root my Desire. I Like the original rom, its fast, very good functions (like sense, htc tether, and the other htc features)....
i dont know if there a desire rom that has all the same functions include root....
Thanks for your help..
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yep the rooted rom is exactly the same except root access and the super user app, would translate this but i know it wouldn't make much sense due to german sentence structure etc.
slaming said:
yep the rooted rom is exactly the same except root access and the super user app, would translate this but i know it wouldn't make much sense due to german sentence structure etc.
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hmm ok, but how about warranty?
PsYDoX said:
Why should i root my Desire.
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Do you want it to do something it doesn't already do? If not, leave it alone.
On a more personal note, I'd hold off rooting for a couple of months at least. Let all the guys at the bleeding edge get hurt and bloodied by the rooting process. Then once things have settled down and the initial niggles are resolved, see what benefits it brings. The phone is very new after all. Surely you can't be bored of it yet?
SIM Free Deal
I'm thinking of getting a Desire SIM free - will this come with bootloader unlocked and engineering SPL as standard do you think?
spences10 said:
I'm thinking of getting a Desire SIM free - will this come with bootloader unlocked and engineering SPL as standard do you think?
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The only advantage in getting a sim free version is you can use any sim card with it. That's it. No special bootloader and stuff.
Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but searching around on google for an answer I came across this.
Aitese said:
He's basically said he loves the features, he's happy with it and everything is working fine...so I'm saying, use it and leave it.
Why root if there's no specific reason to do so apart from "you can"?!
It's like the thread that's just popped up asking if SetCPU is working yet...why? Is the CPU too slow as it is? Just because you can doesn't mean you should for no good reason other than you're bored.
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What kind of advice is this? Seriously? Yes, you should do things because you can. You should learn and explore, become educated about the world around you. There's enough bigotry, ignorance, and lethargic mind states out there without telling others to hold back. This very technology was founded on forward thinking and sharing of community knowledge. As a counter to your statement why should I -NOT- root my device other than "because I can"?
What I want to know, and I believe op does as well, is what are the advantages of rooting? Are there any? Most of what I've looked up is fairly old (1+ years) and the biggest boon I've seen people talk about is being able to tether, this is something I can already do with my HTC Desire. I see plenty of answers for the second half of my question, what are the disadvantages, and there seems to be a hearty agreement that there really isn't one.
So what would I stand to gain from rooting?
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Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but searching around on google for an answer I came across this.
What kind of advice is this? Seriously? Yes, you should do things because you can. You should learn and explore, become educated about the world around you. There's enough bigotry, ignorance, and lethargic mind states out there without telling others to hold back. This very technology was founded on forward thinking and sharing of community knowledge. As a counter to your statement why should I -NOT- root my device other than "because I can"?
What I want to know, and I believe op does as well, is what are the advantages of rooting? Are there any? Most of what I've looked up is fairly old (1+ years) and the biggest boon I've seen people talk about is being able to tether, this is something I can already do with my HTC Desire. I see plenty of answers for the second half of my question, what are the disadvantages, and there seems to be a hearty agreement that there really isn't one.
So what would I stand to gain from rooting?
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You can gain much.....
One of the reasons I rooted mine is so that I can control the CPU speed using SetCPU and improve my battery life.
You can install firewall apps to control iptables and keep your phone a little bit safer from the "perils" of internet.
I have also installed a cache removal and a move2sd app to help save a bit more space in the internal memory.
And, obviously, you can flash custom ROMs and extend functionalities (I haven't done this....yet)
All of which are possible through rooting.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
I cannot see a reason to root a phone if you want to keep the original ROM. Mine is rooted but I cannot do anything that I couldn't do before on the original rom.
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I cannot see a reason to root a phone if you want to keep the original ROM. Mine is rooted but I cannot do anything that I couldn't do before on the original rom.
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You can use certain applications from the market that required root such as setcpu.
Is there a reason for me to root? Everyone is talking greek to me I am a complete noob when it comes to this. I have tethered my phone with no problems, I'm not really interested in overclocking. So is there any reason at all I would want to go through the headache of trying to figure all this stuff out and root my phone?
One of the major reasons I root is so I can use custom roms, edited versions of the stock os, that are modified to include different features and improve the speed of the device, others love rooting for the ability to customize anything you want to.
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While all those are valid, none of those exist; and even the current Root is not NAND write enabled.
After seeing all the problems in rooting combined with threads regarding phones REALLY acting up after, I would say ... don't root unless and until you see a custom ROM you like.
Personally, anything Rooting would get me, FroYo will get me too; and while a faster custom FroYo would get my attention; Verizon WILL release Froyo in 2010 at some point. I'll be waiting.
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Personally, anything Rooting would get me, FroYo will get me too; and while a faster custom FroYo would get my attention; Verizon WILL release Froyo in 2010 at some point. I'll be waiting.
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Just don't hold your breath! On the WinMo side, at least, they're a few quarters behind the OS update schedule, mainly thanks to HTC's Sense(less)UI. Since we have a layer of HTC stuff on top of Android, you can expect to wait just as long for 2.2.
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Just don't hold your breath! On the WinMo side, at least, they're a few quarters behind the OS update schedule, mainly thanks to HTC's Sense(less)UI. Since we have a layer of HTC stuff on top of Android, you can expect to wait just as long for 2.2.
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I'd bet we'll have a FroYo port waaay before VZ pushes it out over the air. I think (!) HTC's Software Quality Assurance is more thorough (and slower than) Google's Quality Assurance, or at least Google would rather push an update out with fewer features whereas HTC will wait for all features to work. AFAIK, VZ has very little to add or subtract to the mix -- how long does it take to recompile against a new framework and kernel?
superflysmith said:
Is there a reason for me to root? Everyone is talking greek to me I am a complete noob when it comes to this. I have tethered my phone with no problems, I'm not really interested in overclocking. So is there any reason at all I would want to go through the headache of trying to figure all this stuff out and root my phone?
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If you have to ask, then you truly shouldn't be rooting your phone.
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If you have to ask, then you truly shouldn't be rooting your phone.
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I haven't been trying. Just trying to see if it's even worth trying to figure out. At this point I see nothing that would make me want to anyhow.
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If you have to ask, then you truly shouldn't be rooting your phone.
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Shoot first, call Verizon Warrant Department is my motto
Why, indeed! What else is there to do but constantly trying to break your phone with new mods?
rynosaur said:
Shoot first, call Verizon Warrant Department is my motto
Why, indeed! What else is there to do but constantly trying to break your phone with new mods?
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I miss messing with stuff... i came from a G1 were i was running a different rom every 3 days it seemed like.. i was constantly messing with things with it just for ****s and giggles
I do feel really locked down with the incredible in knowing that i cant really mess with anything, the only thing ive been able to change is the boot screen and put the nexus animation on that instead of the stupid verizon symbol.
Too be honest though nothings even wrong with my phone whatsoever... the OS is perfectly fine and does everything i want it too, i cant really complain about anything with the software on it now... its just that want to customize thats driving my desire to root.. moreso then any actual need as everything works fine
The WiFi tether and lamppu was good enough for me now until we get custom roms
An even better title for this thread would be
"Why is this in 'Development' and not in 'General'?"
kentoe said:
The WiFi tether and lamppu was good enough for me now until we get custom roms
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I'm with you there, those dual LED's are serious.
KB Smoka said:
I'm with you there, those dual LED's are serious.
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Omfg I know, right? I flashed them in my eyes accidentally and I was like holy crap, blinded me for about a minute.
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An even better title for this thread would be
"Why is this in 'Development' and not in 'General'?"
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That would be a great title, you're right!!!
I got a froyo port going!
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While all those are valid, none of those exist; and even the current Root is not NAND write enabled.
After seeing all the problems in rooting combined with threads regarding phones REALLY acting up after, I would say ... don't root unless and until you see a custom ROM you like.
Personally, anything Rooting would get me, FroYo will get me too; and while a faster custom FroYo would get my attention; Verizon WILL release Froyo in 2010 at some point. I'll be waiting.
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I have released a froyo port method over at the "anyone want froyo" thread on the 8th page. I hope it helps anyone!
Joe92T said:
Too be honest though nothings even wrong with my phone whatsoever... the OS is perfectly fine and does everything i want it too, i cant really complain about anything with the software on it now... its just that want to customize thats driving my desire to root.. moreso then any actual need as everything works fine
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+1. There is not much that comes to mind with regard to things I'd like to improve with the DI. For example, the phone has more app storage than I could ever use, so there is no need for A2SD. And the processing speed is satisfying, so gaining OC'd kernel isn't a big priority. However, I simply miss being able to **** around with and compare various ROM's and mods, even if they are unneccessary on this device.
I have no real reason to root just yet, well then again I'm totally new to android, so I'm not exactly sure what rooting entails. All I want is stock 2.2 froyo, the day that is ported over to our phone is the day I will be rooted.
Can't wait..
kentoe said:
The WiFi tether and lamppu was good enough for me now until we get custom roms
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i agree, the wifi tether is what made me root now rather than later.
HELP..Will my 16gb card work?
if i go buy a 2gb card to root my phone can i use my 16gb when im done rooting or am i stuck with the 2gb?
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if i go buy a 2gb card to root my phone can i use my 16gb when im done rooting or am i stuck with the 2gb?
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Absolutely....just need the POS 2GB to get ADB going.
I have s off and I'm rooted in stock rom with cwm installed. Will accepting the ota get rid of root? S off? Will I be able to root afterwards if it does?
Sent from Bangdrum's phone.
Yes it will get rid of root...and you will not be able to root again most likely for a while. Stay where you are and wait for the upgraded Rom to be rooted and packaged for you to flash
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Thank you. Just saved me some grief
Sent from Bangdrum's phone.
Does anyone know where the ota downloads to? I can root it so people who have s-off can flash it, but not sure where it is downloading to. Checked in cache and its not going there.
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Yes it will get rid of root...and you will not be able to root again most likely for a while. Stay where you are and wait for the upgraded Rom to be rooted and packaged for you to flash
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Nevermind, it self destructs if you cancel the update. How to get the zip, hmmm.
does the new update add much if i already have CM7 installed, or do i need to goto stock eventually, flash the new radios and stuff then go back to CM7? Kinda new to this and just trying to get everything right, thanks
Rmk40 just posted a Rom over in the development section that is pretty much the ota minus the bloat
Carelessly swyped on my phone so there may be some weird typos
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Nevermind, it self destructs if you cancel the update. How to get the zip, hmmm.
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man after all the crap you said about root, you don't even deserve free root.
andybones said:
man after all the crap you said about root, you don't even deserve free root.
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glad i'm not the only one thinking it.
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glad i'm not the only one thinking it.
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I'm not one to bash on people either but I agree this guy could have ruined it for everyone. Thankfully alpha kept a better standard. Software root came quicker than it did for the DInc1 and the Inc2 WAS the most locked down phone known to Verizon. Impressive to say the least. Also credit to Raskal and XTC clip as he did need hardware. but I bet the guy could make software root, just makes more money on the clip lol. can't blame him though, it is worth it if it's the only option. IMO
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I'm not one to bash on people either but I agree this guy could have ruined it for everyone. Thankfully alpha kept a better standard. Software root came quicker than it did for the DInc1 and the Inc2 WAS the most locked down phone known to Verizon. Impressive to say the least. Also credit to Raskal and XTC clip as he did need hardware. but I bet the guy could make software root, just makes more money on the clip lol. can't blame him though, it is worth it if it's the only option. IMO
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How exactly could he have ruined it for everyone by saying he didnt think root would be achieved? You think Alpha woulda gave up their attemtps in annoyance because he was the one naysayer? get real. people are entitled to their opinions and he disagreed and when perm root was achieved he mentioned how embarrassed he felt in multiple treads. I think he has been humiliated enough and we should all move on to enjoying root now...
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How exactly could he have ruined it for everyone by saying he didnt think root would be achieved? You think Alpha woulda gave up their attemtps in annoyance because he was the one naysayer? get real. people are entitled to their opinions and he disagreed and when perm root was achieved he mentioned how embarrassed he felt in multiple treads. I think he has been humiliated enough and we should all move on to enjoying root now...
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I wouldn't say I was humiliated. It really is just a phone. Did admit I was wrong about alpha rev though. If people hold a grudge over a phone, they really need a life, just saying.
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Just ordered a Galaxy S4 through Verizon Edge and if I'm understanding correctly, the old phone has to be traded in. Currently the phone is rooted and running Chillybean's CM10.2 ROM. Do I need to return the phone to stock and "un-unlock" it in order to avoid any problems with Verizon?
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Just ordered a Galaxy S4 through Verizon Edge and if I'm understanding correctly, the old phone has to be traded in. Currently the phone is rooted and running Chillybean's CM10.2 ROM. Do I need to return the phone to stock and "un-unlock" it in order to avoid any problems with Verizon?
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No more aosp for you on the s4
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I've heard mixed reports. If it's something you can easily do, then I say do it. At the very least, flash a "stock" Rom. I doubt they seriously inspect the device, but I could be wrong.
Wound up flashing a stock PG32IMG.zip image in recovery mode. Might still be S-OFF but are they really gonna know?
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Wound up flashing a stock PG32IMG.zip image in recovery mode. Might still be S-OFF but are they really gonna know?
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Not to bump an old thread like this, but how'd it work out?? I'm on Edge too and am about to order the LG G3. I have every intention of rooting it obviously.
Thanks in advance!
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Not to bump an old thread like this, but how'd it work out?? I'm on Edge too and am about to order the LG G3. I have every intention of rooting it obviously.
Thanks in advance!
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They haven't contacted me to complain or confirm receipt, so I guess they were happy enough with it?
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They haven't contacted me to complain or confirm receipt, so I guess they were happy enough with it?
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Awesome. I know the kid at the sprint store just pulled up my app tray, didn't see SuperUser, and said "good enough" a couple years back lol. Thanks for the update!
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Awesome. I know the kid at the sprint store just pulled up my app tray, didn't see SuperUser, and said "good enough" a couple years back lol. Thanks for the update!
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The Verizon store closest to me isn't an "official" branch or something so I had to mail it. I hope whoever gets my old phone finds his way to this forum and gets his Jellybean on! I really HATED Gingerbread.
So my turbo just updated to marshmallow, and I'm curious as to whether that opened the door to root and possibly bootloader unlock. BTW the Moto x force thread needs to be moved from this one. They're 2 different phones. I mean they're the same, but anything on Verizon is always going to be different. We all know this. Chime in guys!
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So my turbo just updated to marshmallow, and I'm curious as to whether that opened the door to root and possibly bootloader unlock. BTW the Moto x force thread needs to be moved from this one. They're 2 different phones. I mean they're the same, but anything on Verizon is always going to be different. We all know this. Chime in guys!
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Too soon to tell if it opened up any possible exploits, best thing is to keep an eye on this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo-2/general/root-discussionthink-tank-t3239979
The X-Force question came up before, mods said it's basically the same phone so it's not getting it's own section.
If anything, it patched a bunch of exploits and made it that much harder to root the phone. Unless Motorola does the same thing as they did with the one Moto X on Verizon, I doubt the bootloader will ever be unlocked.
Sent from my DROID Turbo 2
I feel like this could happen one of 4 ways.
1. Good ol diggin round code.
2.Motorola employee helps us.
3.someone me (I've tried) but both Motorola reps and Verizon reps are unhelpful but someone might do better. Maybe get it " escalated"
4. Just hope....
Also I just really think it's possible to get past the people who know nothing about it and find someone willing to help.. Then again maybe just simply wishful thinking.
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Also I just really think it's possible to get past the people who know nothing about it and find someone willing to help.. Then again maybe just simply wishful thinking.
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^^^This. Whoever has had success cracking BLs on Verizon Moto devices in the past might help, or at the very least point you in the right direction. You also might be able to get some of the CM devs that have worked on VZW Moto devices in the past.
I know Verizon has been notorious about locking their phones down for a while now, but can it really be completely locked? There has to be something there that can be cracked right? Nothing is impossible right?
Hey, guys, I haven't checked in for awhile, but would someone be willing to work on it for a bounty? I mean if we could pool together somewhere between $500-$1k wouldn't it be worth it for someone who has a ton of knowledge in this comeover and help?
I'd be willing to donate to that cause even though my sig says otherwise...
Same here I second that, seems the hard part would be setting this up, I mean this is a great phone if devs would come on board
Rooted and installed twrp KINZIE today. Followed a italian tutorial for the Moto X Force. Android 6.0
http://www.androidiani.com/forum/mo...moto-x-force-ottenere-i-permessi-di-root.html
I would pay too if somebody hopped on the developer train for the X-Force !
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Rooted and installed twrp KINZIE today. Followed a italian tutorial for the Moto X Force. Android 6.0
http://www.androidiani.com/forum/mo...moto-x-force-ottenere-i-permessi-di-root.html
I would pay too if somebody hopped on the developer train for the X-Force !
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You rooted your droid turbo 2?
Digital DJ said:
You rooted your droid turbo 2?
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No he has the moto x force it's confusing they shouldn't be posting in this thread they can root this is about obtaining a root exploit. To be honest I don't care that he rooted his phone it's not such a triumph the damn phone is unlocked.
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No he has the moto x force it's confusing they shouldn't be posting in this thread they can root this is about obtaining a root exploit. To be honest I don't care that he rooted his phone it's not such a triumph the damn phone is unlocked.
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That's what I thought. Still not sure why the mod won't separate the threads. It gets stupid and confusing...
Digital DJ said:
Hey, guys, I haven't checked in for awhile, but would someone be willing to work on it for a bounty? I mean if we could pool together somewhere between $500-$1k wouldn't it be worth it for someone who has a ton of knowledge in this comeover and help?
I'd be willing to donate to that cause even though my sig says otherwise...
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There is a bounty thread started in Q&A
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo-2/help/root-droid-turbo-2-bounty-t3339484
I want to change the ugly, unintuitive material design soft buttons.
I know that verizon locks down their phones.
I want to root so that I can get back the old Holo soft buttons (ics, jelly bean, kitkat) and maybe holo blue.
I know from experience that root can make a device much more laggy.
This is my main and only phone that I can use, so I don't want to take many chances.
SecretPotatoChip said:
I know that verizon locks down their phones.
I want to root so that I can get back the old Holo soft buttons (ics, jelly bean, kitkat) and maybe holo blue.
I know from experience that root can make a device much more laggy.
This is my main and only phone that I can use, so I don't want to take many chances.
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Who told you root makes a phone lag that is 100% false. Anyway there is no root method at this time.
I have a droid razr that I rooted in jelly bean. Since that, it's more laggy and unresponsive. Probably because of the root processes running in the background
There is no such thing as "root process". Root is just about rights to access particular part of the system, run specific commands or applications.
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You rooted your droid turbo 2?
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He is asking for an X-force developer (since there's a lack of roms) so gonna say no.
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There is no such thing as "root process". Root is just about rights to access particular part of the system, run specific commands or applications.
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Yea he just doesn't know what he's talking about here, maybe he installed something that was eating away at the CPU or RAM or both, also may have been a bad root method to
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Yea he just doesn't know what he's talking about here, maybe he installed something that was eating away at the CPU or RAM or both, also may have been a bad root method to
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Maybe he's talking about supersu...