Anybody can give me the usual battery life of unrooted unmodded 4.0.2.A.0.42 update philippines.
Am running on moderate games, internet light to moderate.
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if you're asking unrooted, i don't think i can help much because mine's rooted, but i guess there's no real difference anyway, not if you heavily modded your phone after rooting..
i just noticed that after the 2.3.4 update, my phone's battery life just got poorer.. before the update i get like 2% deduction in battery percentage if i leave it on overnight for around 8 hours. after the update however, i was surprised from 100% it splashed down to 92% in 8hours overnight without using the phone. GPS is off, 3G is off, GSM ONLY is selected and no heavy apps installed and running. WEIRD. I think ICS is the solution now. after all, SE already confirmed it coming to our devices.
fellow filipino here mate!
quote as written above.
I think it's a phone signal issue, recently i've tryied for a couple of days to go keep the phone on airplane mode (but still using gps and wifi) and the battery life was astonishing, practically zero drain in standby, (1-2% went down during 12 hours of sleep, but with alarm ringing after that ) even with wifi and heavy usage of google maps-gps battery was amazing and could have lasted for 3 days (remember, average to heavy internet, wifi, gps and google maps using).
here's my experience with tinkering with battery stuff.
I've tryied setting manually the phone operator, as somebody here said that having it at automatic causes the phone to bug and keep scanning for an operator, but actually i couldn't notice big differencies between manual and auto.
Also i've found out that downvolting isn't worth it for me. It saves a bit of battery, but it lags the phone too much and is pointless with a gaming phone since you waste more battery always going and removing downclock when i want to play and then set it back when i finish.
overclocking wastes big chunks of battery and phone tends to overheat too much for my tastes and i know that overheating = bad for hardware so for 99% of my time i'm on 1024 ghz, which by the way isn't even THAT laggy at all.
Animated wallpapers kinda drops battery life a bit. It's up to you if you want to keep them, as for me they're fine, but i noticed that games (i've tested fifa 2012) lags a lot using christmas 3d wallpaper.
taskers like killing apps are useless for me, sometimes they MIGHT get the phone to be a little snappier, but for most of the times i feel like they EVEN drain battery MORE. I notice that the apps they kill tend to respawn a couple of minutes later, and this cycle of killing-starting does nothing more than spoil the battery. But let's say it's a personal thing of mine (hate taskers).
Let's say i trust android's automatic tasker better.
I tend to keep auto sync off and background data off too. Still to confirm if the latter saves battery or not, confirmed that the first does.
All i can say about my personal experience so far, is try to go around with only GSM, try to be smart and keep it like that when you know you won't use data connection that much, and switch back to gsm/wcdma when you feel like you would check the internet or stuff like that.
In areas with bad signal (my god forsaken girlfriends house) just pop in airplane mode or leave the phone in those areas of the house with have good signal.
Yeah you have to act like a friggin inspector gadget.
Forgot to add my personal solution to battery drain:
i just bought another original sony ericsson battery and now i always go out with one extra battery ready to come and save my days.
I can only shiver in terror at the prospect that i MIGHT go around WITHOUT my Sexplay (or with a battery dead one which is the same) :| :|
thanks mate! been turning off the 3g and average internet via wifi cuts the batt in half.
ill try to set to manual my network connection. as i am using my SExplay as my cellphone.
ICS= happy SExplay! will wait for this update. loving SE now. i mean again!
i have very strong signal in my area, so i guess the phone-scanning-for-network problem is not the culprit.. back in 2.3.3, it was a way lot better..
as of today, the phone deducted 3-5% of battery life in just an hour IDLE.
Hey narflynn, i manage to get the network scan to manual and it some way i guess it saves battery. Am using it as my daily phone with some net via wifi and am still around 80+ battery.
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oh yeah i forgot to set it to MANUAL, oh boy
I actually used to do that way back in 2.3.3
i guess that's what you get when you don't use your phone for a month.. you just forget your routine phone maintenance..
PS: my phone's hinge flex broke, wasnt able to use it for a whole month, maybe that's why i forgot the MANUAL stuff
How come you broke it? Was it good knw? How did u go with repair stuff? And the damage? I mean the cost hehehe.
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After using the original Note, I decided I couldn't live with the battery life and decided to upgrade to the Note 2 last christmas. I was fully satisfied, and frequently got between 6 to 7h of screen time.
Sadly, since early june, I barely get half of that under normal usage (2-3 hours), and I've never been able to go a day without charging the phone. The phone is rooted but still on Rogers Canada's original firmware with the original Samsung battery.
I'm no novice to android, but I've run out of ideas. Is it normal for a battery to start loosing it's capacity after around 120 to 150 charging cycles?
1) I thought it might be related to my external microsd, because I started getting error messages that I was disconnecting, and the mediascanner process was running for an abnormally long time. I wiped the card, and the errors persisted. Finally, I removed it altogether and the mediascanner battery drain stoppped, but overall battery life didn't get any better
2) I comptetelly wiped the phone and started from scratch, reinstalling everything from the market. No change.
3) I've been checking per app battery usage with BetterBatteryStats, and I occasionnally get one misbehaving app that keeps the phone awake, so I installed Greenify to prevent a few of them from gobbling up resources. That's helped a lot, at least on BetterBatteryStats, but still the phone doesn't last longer. There is no more obviously abnormal app anymore.
4) I tough it might be related to the fact that I redirected all my work email to gmail, so I set it to manual mode, but it hasn't helped.
5) I did notice that the cpu stays either in deep sleep or at 1,1 ghz, almost without using the other speeds. I don't know that I can do anything about that with the stock kernel.
Is there something else I could be checking? The phone worked great for six months without gooing through all of that stuff, so the only thing I can think of is a hardware issue. Did I get a faulty battery?
Thanks for your insights.
Nothing lasts forever; buy a new battery
hmmm the 1.1ghz thing makes it seem like it could be a deeper issue, there is no reason it should be sticking at a frequency that high.. I would personally try to flash the stock rom fresh with odin.
That would be your issue, the high frequency, not the battery itself imo
wase4711 said:
Nothing lasts forever; buy a new battery
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Diomonds do
please use spell check..
d-i-a-m-o-n-d-s.....:victory:
Lol
They don't last forever if they had a beginning. . .ooooh.
reminds me of this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinocchio_paradox
I notice thst on mine im loosing juice quick when my LTE radio is on and I'm in poor coverage area. Switching to 4g/3g/2g only helps a lot. On day when I take few pics my battery takes a hit because all pictures backup performed by dropbox etc
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Hello all,
I recently purchased a LG G4 Back In July , on Verizon, switching over from A Galaxy Note 3 (Tmobile). Honestly I really really like the phone, but I think the battery life is pitiful for a $700 dollar "Flagship" phone. I mean not once has it ever lasted the full day. I had to buy a spare battery kit, with 2 batteries, and days when im out from 6am to late at night, I go through 2 batteries, and have to put the 3rd one in. I mean , this is simply unacceptable for a phone like this.
Also, the camera is excellent WHEN it works. A lot of times, it doesn't take the picture right away, there is a delay, and many times it falls out of focus. This is certainly not the high quality camera they advertised.
I am hoping there is a way to fix these 2 issues, mainly the battery issue though because it is awful in my opinion. Is there any tweaks or fixes for these issues?
You've barely given any relevant information other than how unhappy you are with the device, so I would suggest that you elaborate on that.
You could inform us if you're a heavy/light user, if you keep NFC, LTE, Bluetooth, Syncing, Wi-Fi, on during the whole day or maybe if you are used to 100% brightness display. Maybe you should check in your settings what is draining your battery and provide us the info.
I'm having a pretty good experience with the phone so far. It surely lasts a whole day with 3:30 to 4h SoT. I don't even need/have a spare battery.
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This is certainly not the high quality camera they advertised.
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One person having an issue doesn't mean it's not a great camera. You'll find it's likely still the best flagship camera of any OEM.
Battery use is so dependent on which apps you run, which mods you have, how often the screen is on, what brightness, signal strength, wifi, bluetooth, etc etc etc...
I came from a galaxy s3 and reckon the battery on g4 is awesome. I use it solidly on internet for 2 hrs a day (to and from work), check messages etc through the day, usually internet at lunch. And then evening time check facebook etc over WiFi infront of telly.
I unplug at 6am and plug in around 11pm with around 3% left. I bought a 2nd battery and only needed to use it twice. It has to be how you're using it.
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13 hours on battery for me today and still 71% left. Light usage but it does illustrate that the battery life can be excellent.
itm said:
13 hours on battery for me today and still 71% left. Light usage but it does illustrate that the battery life can be excellent.
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of course, you can get excellent battery life on every smartphone - just put it in aeroplane mode..
I get MAX 3h of SOT time on my G4 - this is with fixed brightness at 65% (at all times) and only wifi and 3g enabled (NFC, bluetooth and everything else is turned off all the time)
to be fair I have yet to own a smartphone that lasts me more than 4h SOT..
the thing that annoys me the most is the broken knock code used to unlock the phone - it works 20% of the time at best
its a completely broken feature LG has not properly addressed since launch of the device (I am on V10e software)
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I recently purchased a LG G4 Back In July , on Verizon, switching over from A Galaxy Note 3 (Tmobile).
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There have been numerous firmware updates since. Have you ever performed a full factory reset after getting those updates ?
If the answer is no, then this is one potential reason for poor battery life. What you could try is to clear the system cache in recovery. Note, i said system cache not apps cache. Idea here is when updates come in there could be conflicts and it causes the system to work harder. clearing system cache might help, if it does not then the only option is a factory reset and then a manual install.
not restore. You install apps in batches, monitor, then install more and so on. You can restore contacts etc. but apps themselves will have to be reinstalled. Sometimes apps go rogue and have to be reinstalled. Its hard to tell which app is causing the issue. Otherwise you could just reinstall whatever app that seems to be taking up more than it should be.
Honestly I really really like the phone, but I think the battery life is pitiful for a $700 dollar "Flagship" phone. I mean not once has it ever lasted the full day. I had to buy a spare battery kit, with 2 batteries, and days when im out from 6am to late at night, I go through 2 batteries, and have to put the 3rd one in. I mean , this is simply unacceptable for a phone like this.
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What are you doing on your phone ? mention apps.
How do you access the net. How good is your signal. What are you doing when you access the net.
Also, the camera is excellent WHEN it works. A lot of times, it doesn't take the picture right away, there is a delay, and many times it falls out of focus. This is certainly not the high quality camera they advertised.
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What types of shots are these. It can happen with portraits some times. It will focus on the background behind the person instead of the person and the face becomes softer and the background very sharp.
For this set focus little above the chest instead of the face. If they are wearing dark clothing this will cause other issues so focus on something else at equal distance that isn't dark.
Always check the shot at the pixel level soon after you took it. Rather than at the end of the day.
Furma said:
of course, you can get excellent battery life on every smartphone - just put it in aeroplane mode..
I get MAX 3h of SOT time on my G4 - this is with fixed brightness at 65% (at all times) and only wifi and 3g enabled (NFC, bluetooth and everything else is turned off all the time)
to be fair I have yet to own a smartphone that lasts me more than 4h SOT..
the thing that annoys me the most is the broken knock code used to unlock the phone - it works 20% of the time at best
its a completely broken feature LG has not properly addressed since launch of the device (I am on V10e software)
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Just to clarify: I had everything turned on for those 13 hours - wifi/data/bluetooth/GPS. I also made 2 phone calls and did a bit of Chromecasting using the BT Sport app for a couple of hours. Or to put it another way, I didn't take any measures at all to preserve battery life.
I used to complain just like you're doing OP ( @dredmentia ) and fixed it all with a Zerolemon battery .
Is the phone bulky/no leather back/not easy to handle... , it sure is but if battery life is crucial then it gotta get fixed.
End my day anywhere between 7 to 13 hours of sot depending on WiFi or 4g and high CPU freqs, tried light usage and hit 3 days with 12 hours sot. Snap/insta/twit/fb/periscope/... Nothing kills this battery in a day.
When and if we get a kernel I'll move back to factory battery at least then I know I'm in control of how CPU works coz while optimizing the phone for wakelocks that's the only thing I have no control over...
As for now I'm just trying to burn thru this battery every day so I can charge it every night...
Last phone was a Z3 Sony and that really grabbed my attention with its battery life in stock form, almost too perfect, Almost.
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01181ODJI/ref=ask_ql_qh_dp_hza
This is what your talking about? Looks like a pretty nice battery.
LG G4 Battery Case, ZeroLemon LG G4 8500mAh TriCell Extended Battery + Soft TPU Full Edge Protection Case (Compatible with all LG G4 variants) (4897010519648)
It works with the USB charger that came with the phone ?
Did someone seriously just ask me if I kept the brightness on the screen at 100%???? Obviously im not doing that, im not some idiot. I know the screen eats up most of the battery. I keep the brightness extremely low way under 50%, or on auto., The battery still last a short amount of time. Its not acceptable
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Did someone seriously just ask me if I kept the brightness on the screen at 100%???? Obviously im not doing that, im not some idiot. I know the screen eats up most of the battery. I keep the brightness extremely low way under 50%, or on auto., The battery still last a short amount of time. Its not acceptable
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Then maybe something is wrong with the phone. I got also 4-5hr SoT.
It can't be just 2hr.
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Did someone seriously just ask me if I kept the brightness on the screen at 100%???? Obviously im not doing that, im not some idiot. I know the screen eats up most of the battery. I keep the brightness extremely low way under 50%, or on auto., The battery still last a short amount of time. Its not acceptable
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Did you not see my earlier post ?
Answer everything asked in full.
I got S22 Snapdragon Variant but the battery still sucks and phone heats up much after I have done the following.
1. Followed [GUIDE] [NO-ROOT] Complete Samsung OneUI Optimization
- Most settings applied
- Phone set up without Smart Switch
- Adaptive Battery disabled
2. Installed [App]Galaxy Max Hz (Refresh Rate Mods, Screen-off Mods, QS Tiles, Tasker Support and More)
- Adaptive Refresh on Power-Saving mode On
- Adaptive Min 10Hz, and Max 120Hz
- Force Lowest Hz on screen-off (10Hz)
2. Installed ®FDE.AI - Ultimate Android Optimizer
- Power-Saving mode
- Force Doze Mode On
- Sensors Off on screen off
- Analyze Apps on screen off
3. S22 Settings
- Sync disabled
- Always-On Display - Tap to show
- NFC, Location, off when not in use
- Power Saving mode 24/7
I am seriously tempted to get a Pixel 5 instead, which I am willing to sacrifice the performance + 120Hz because I'm just another daily user.
Is there a way to underclock Snapdragon 8 Gen 1?
Let us hear your thoughts too. Thanks.
Which s22 model do you have?
Also I felt like I got more battery drain with adaptive battery off so I kept it on but slept all apps except ones i need notifications for
I have the 901e and updated to the Vietnamese firmware avdf running very similar set up to you getting 7 - 9h sot
Try removing that optimiser and using the doze setting in galaxy max hz
Also 96hz works with power saving on
Get galaxy app booster it's with in good guardians (can just download the apks online if you can't find it in the galaxy store) from what I've read it wipes dalvik cache
I'm on S22 SM-910E/DS.
I see... I'll give it a try on your suggestions!
But do you still face quite abit of heat during screen on and using of phone after the tweaks?
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I'm on S22 SM-910E/DS.
I see... I'll give it a try on your suggestions!
But do you still face quite abit of heat during screen on and using of phone after the tweaks?
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No heat at all, also in battery powersave settings you can limit the CPU to 70% (in case you didn't know already) from what I can see in adb it's on even when powersaving isnt
Mine is an SM-S9010. I rooted it and did some work on it. I turned off cores, underclocked it, turned off adaptive battery and so on. With all the things I tried, the SOT differs from charge to charge. I stopped even gaming altogether on it. I managed to get 30 more minutes out of it.
So the average SOT for me sits at 4h. I've got the Prime core and the last Middle core turned off, the Little cores underclocked to 1.5GHz and the rest to 1.9. The phone still overheats but the drain is slightly better.
Then there's the idle drain. The main culprit is Google's notorious Play Services crap with its services framework and all the other Google BS. I even installed a module to let it be optimized/dozed. It worked half the time. The other half the drain was even higher than before so it did worse than good. Now I've got Battery Guru installed and this thing monitors everything I need, plus it has a lot of stuff embedded in it, like the Quick Doze mod, power saver and Sensors Off with the screen off, etc. I've got the Powersaver on after the screen turns off and Data saver, and the idle drain sits at ~1%/hour. It goes at 0.7-1%/h, during the night unless the Play Services start spasming again, and they tend to do that a lot. And before having someone suggest a fix, please don't. I tried them all. They're just temporary solving the issue.
So yeah, there's no way in HELL someone can convince me they get 7-9h SOT cause that's just silly and exaggerated lying for a reason I don't understand.
In a 20h time frame the battery will lose 30% while the phone is idling. That includes ~10% which goes to some music listening and calls. I'm then left with 70%. After cutting off the 10-15% at which I plug in the phone, I'm left with ~60% of actual battery for the SOT. That means ~2150mAh. The battery is simply too small to be capable of anything more.
If you watch hours of YouTube, yeah, the SOT will turn out better because you're barely touching the screen once in a while and the CPU does the bare minimum and nothing overheats or goes into seizure mode. And the longer you use it in a smaller time frame, the better the results. When you use it over a longer period of time, go from idle to active use, idle again, and so on, that's when things start to take shape, so to speak. Then the moment you start scrolling and loading and loading things on Reddit or TikTok for example, or you browse the web, switch between apps and so on, things also change. The CPU will jump from a range of frequencies and produce more heat. The battery will share some of that heat and thing will get hot relatively hot soon, especially if it's hot outside. That translates into even poorer battery performance cause the hotter it gets, the worse the active drain is. And also, the lower the percentage, the worse the drain is too, I have noticed since I got this piece of crap phone. But yeah, if outside it's hot AF, the phone will be hot too. Today here where I live it's 30C right now. Using this thing and doing nothing intensive on it still gets it hot. It's too small to dissipate heat properly. Those saying "not heat here" etc, it's not possible unless you live in a slightly colder climate.
Not to forget to mention, I debloated this thing, removing pretty much everything Samsung included and I left only their bare minimum BS. Did it solve anything? Yes and no. It's a small difference but definitely not as big as I was expecting. It mainly reduces the idle drain, but like I said, the difference is extremely minimal.
I used a Pixel 5 last year. It was a great little phone. The battery life was fantastic on that thing. It was basically the first phone I've ever had with such a great battery life. The I moved to an iPhone 13 Pro. The one was even better. I never had to worry about running out of battery. Then after getting bored with iOS, I preordered an S22. Did I even consider the battery life? Absolutely not.
In conclusion, if you keep trying to find a solution to the problem, you won't fix much. Thing might improve today but tomorrow you'll be disappointed again the cycle starts again the next day.
The 8 Gen 1 built on Samsung's 4nm architecture is absolutely rubbish. It's terrible in terms of efficiency and when you pair it with a tiny battery you get a Galaxy S22, the devil child sent on Earth to destroy your mental health.
So don't bother trying much. Just use the phone as is try to use it as is. Just have a power bank with you when you're away and you're fine. Otherwise you won't enjoy the phone one bit. I, for instance, got to a point where I took it out of the case and now I use it with just a screen protector and the rest completely unprotected. If I drop it and it gets smashed into a million pieces, I don't care. Cause this is the worst phone I've ever had In my life. It's hard to like.
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Mine is an SM-S9010. I rooted it and did some work on it. I turned off cores, underclocked it, turned off adaptive battery and so on. With all the things I tried, the SOT differs from charge to charge. I stopped even gaming altogether on it. I managed to get 30 more minutes out of it.
So the average SOT for me sits at 4h. I've got the Prime core and the last Middle core turned off, the Little cores underclocked to 1.5GHz and the rest to 1.9. The phone still overheats but the drain is slightly better.
Then there's the idle drain. The main culprit is Google's notorious Play Services crap with its services framework and all the other Google BS. I even installed a module to let it be optimized/dozed. It worked half the time. The other half the drain was even higher than before so it did worse than good. Now I've got Battery Guru installed and this thing monitors everything I need, plus it has a lot of stuff embedded in it, like the Quick Doze mod, power saver and Sensors Off with the screen off, etc. I've got the Powersaver on after the screen turns off and Data saver, and the idle drain sits at ~1%/hour. It goes at 0.7-1%/h, during the night unless the Play Services start spasming again, and they tend to do that a lot. And before having someone suggest a fix, please don't. I tried them all. They're just temporary solving the issue.
So yeah, there's no way in HELL someone can convince me they get 7-9h SOT cause that's just silly and exaggerated lying for a reason I don't understand.
In a 20h time frame the battery will lose 30% while the phone is idling. That includes ~10% which goes to some music listening and calls. I'm then left with 70%. After cutting off the 10-15% at which I plug in the phone, I'm left with ~60% of actual battery for the SOT. That means ~2150mAh. The battery is simply too small to be capable of anything more.
If you watch hours of YouTube, yeah, the SOT will turn out better because you're barely touching the screen once in a while and the CPU does the bare minimum and nothing overheats or goes into seizure mode. And the longer you use it in a smaller time frame, the better the results. When you use it over a longer period of time, go from idle to active use, idle again, and so on, that's when things start to take shape, so to speak. Then the moment you start scrolling and loading and loading things on Reddit or TikTok for example, or you browse the web, switch between apps and so on, things also change. The CPU will jump from a range of frequencies and produce more heat. The battery will share some of that heat and thing will get hot relatively hot soon, especially if it's hot outside. That translates into even poorer battery performance cause the hotter it gets, the worse the active drain is. And also, the lower the percentage, the worse the drain is too, I have noticed since I got this piece of crap phone. But yeah, if outside it's hot AF, the phone will be hot too. Today here where I live it's 30C right now. Using this thing and doing nothing intensive on it still gets it hot. It's too small to dissipate heat properly. Those saying "not heat here" etc, it's not possible unless you live in a slightly colder climate.
Not to forget to mention, I debloated this thing, removing pretty much everything Samsung included and I left only their bare minimum BS. Did it solve anything? Yes and no. It's a small difference but definitely not as big as I was expecting. It mainly reduces the idle drain, but like I said, the difference is extremely minimal.
I used a Pixel 5 last year. It was a great little phone. The battery life was fantastic on that thing. It was basically the first phone I've ever had with such a great battery life. The I moved to an iPhone 13 Pro. The one was even better. I never had to worry about running out of battery. Then after getting bored with iOS, I preordered an S22. Did I even consider the battery life? Absolutely not.
In conclusion, if you keep trying to find a solution to the problem, you won't fix much. Thing might improve today but tomorrow you'll be disappointed again the cycle starts again the next day.
The 8 Gen 1 built on Samsung's 4nm architecture is absolutely rubbish. It's terrible in terms of efficiency and when you pair it with a tiny battery you get a Galaxy S22, the devil child sent on Earth to destroy your mental health.
So don't bother trying much. Just use the phone as is try to use it as is. Just have a power bank with you when you're away and you're fine. Otherwise you won't enjoy the phone one bit. I, for instance, got to a point where I took it out of the case and now I use it with just a screen protector and the rest completely unprotected. If I drop it and it gets smashed into a million pieces, I don't care. Cause this is the worst phone I've ever had In my life. It's hard to like.
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Sorry to disappoint but I'm not being silly nor lying, I have absolutely no reason too i have nothing to prove or anyone to impress by talking s***, I'd be here doing the same if my battery was rubbish which it was to start with. I don't get any over heating, phone drains roughly 3% over night and barely get any google services wakelocks so you can believe what you want i really dont care what you think I'll chill here happily with a mint running s22 with plenty of sot
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Sorry to disappoint but I'm not being silly nor lying, I have absolutely no reason too i have nothing to prove or anyone to impress by talking s***, I'd be here doing the same if my battery was rubbish which it was to start with. I don't get any over heating, phone drains roughly 3% over night and barely get any google services wakelocks so you can believe what you want i really dont care what you think I'll chill here happily with a mint running s22 with plenty of sot
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It's fine. It's like a described it though. A continuous run of usage with with barely any stops or very short ones, will offer better stats. That's "very light" usage. Anyone complaining about battery life is doing a lot more on their phone just like me, the one who created this thread and the majority of S22 owners, with both variants of the phones.
Sorry if I offended you. You wouldn't be able to get the same SOT with our usage though, not even close, especially of you're 100% on cellular data.
dragos281993 said:
Mine is an SM-S9010. I rooted it and did some work on it. I turned off cores, underclocked it, turned off adaptive battery and so on. With all the things I tried, the SOT differs from charge to charge. I stopped even gaming altogether on it. I managed to get 30 more minutes out of it.
So the average SOT for me sits at 4h. I've got the Prime core and the last Middle core turned off, the Little cores underclocked to 1.5GHz and the rest to 1.9. The phone still overheats but the drain is slightly better.
Then there's the idle drain. The main culprit is Google's notorious Play Services crap with its services framework and all the other Google BS. I even installed a module to let it be optimized/dozed. It worked half the time. The other half the drain was even higher than before so it did worse than good. Now I've got Battery Guru installed and this thing monitors everything I need, plus it has a lot of stuff embedded in it, like the Quick Doze mod, power saver and Sensors Off with the screen off, etc. I've got the Powersaver on after the screen turns off and Data saver, and the idle drain sits at ~1%/hour. It goes at 0.7-1%/h, during the night unless the Play Services start spasming again, and they tend to do that a lot. And before having someone suggest a fix, please don't. I tried them all. They're just temporary solving the issue.
So yeah, there's no way in HELL someone can convince me they get 7-9h SOT cause that's just silly and exaggerated lying for a reason I don't understand.
In a 20h time frame the battery will lose 30% while the phone is idling. That includes ~10% which goes to some music listening and calls. I'm then left with 70%. After cutting off the 10-15% at which I plug in the phone, I'm left with ~60% of actual battery for the SOT. That means ~2150mAh. The battery is simply too small to be capable of anything more.
If you watch hours of YouTube, yeah, the SOT will turn out better because you're barely touching the screen once in a while and the CPU does the bare minimum and nothing overheats or goes into seizure mode. And the longer you use it in a smaller time frame, the better the results. When you use it over a longer period of time, go from idle to active use, idle again, and so on, that's when things start to take shape, so to speak. Then the moment you start scrolling and loading and loading things on Reddit or TikTok for example, or you browse the web, switch between apps and so on, things also change. The CPU will jump from a range of frequencies and produce more heat. The battery will share some of that heat and thing will get hot relatively hot soon, especially if it's hot outside. That translates into even poorer battery performance cause the hotter it gets, the worse the active drain is. And also, the lower the percentage, the worse the drain is too, I have noticed since I got this piece of crap phone. But yeah, if outside it's hot AF, the phone will be hot too. Today here where I live it's 30C right now. Using this thing and doing nothing intensive on it still gets it hot. It's too small to dissipate heat properly. Those saying "not heat here" etc, it's not possible unless you live in a slightly colder climate.
Not to forget to mention, I debloated this thing, removing pretty much everything Samsung included and I left only their bare minimum BS. Did it solve anything? Yes and no. It's a small difference but definitely not as big as I was expecting. It mainly reduces the idle drain, but like I said, the difference is extremely minimal.
I used a Pixel 5 last year. It was a great little phone. The battery life was fantastic on that thing. It was basically the first phone I've ever had with such a great battery life. The I moved to an iPhone 13 Pro. The one was even better. I never had to worry about running out of battery. Then after getting bored with iOS, I preordered an S22. Did I even consider the battery life? Absolutely not.
In conclusion, if you keep trying to find a solution to the problem, you won't fix much. Thing might improve today but tomorrow you'll be disappointed again the cycle starts again the next day.
The 8 Gen 1 built on Samsung's 4nm architecture is absolutely rubbish. It's terrible in terms of efficiency and when you pair it with a tiny battery you get a Galaxy S22, the devil child sent on Earth to destroy your mental health.
So don't bother trying much. Just use the phone as is try to use it as is. Just have a power bank with you when you're away and you're fine. Otherwise you won't enjoy the phone one bit. I, for instance, got to a point where I took it out of the case and now I use it with just a screen protector and the rest completely unprotected. If I drop it and it gets smashed into a million pieces, I don't care. Cause this is the worst phone I've ever had In my life. It's hard to like.
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Thank you for this. Probably the most honest review about S22's battery. Like you I tried everything under the sun (except the rooting and underclocking). This phone is just disappointing. I could relate to every single line as I read through your post. Weirdly, I'm just happy to know that Im not the only one feeling this way about this "flagship" device.
I'm coming from a very old OnePlus6 which STILL works perfectly fine on a custom Android with close to 4-5 hours of SOT in a full days usage. I charge it only in the night, sometimes it even makes it through the night..
I thought S22 with a higher battery (and NEW) will at least give 6 hours SOT but man was I wrong!!
So initially I used Smart Switch, and I got a terrible SOT of 1-2.
I did factory reset and manually set up the phone and I got about 3 hours of SOT.
I went through the debloating process and now I'm 3-4 hours of SOT.. Still that is so horrible for a flagship!
Its such a let down honestly! I get a flagship and paid so much money and this is such a huge issue! And I hate the font size on the notifications/panel.. it is just not proportional to the overall system font size! And not to forget, the phones takes about 1-1.5 hours to charge. Such a pain when are used to the OnePlus DashCharge which blazes through. Fast Charge on Samsung is such a shame
S22 is seeming to be a mistake. I'm considering swapping this for a Oneplus 10 Pro OR an iPhone 13! You made a similar switch? Looking for advice on fixing this brick of a phone or recommendation on alternate device.
Maybe custom ROMs or Updates in the future will make S22 better?
Edit: I too have a SM-S9010
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Thank you for this. Probably the most honest review about S22's battery. Like you I tried everything under the sun (except the rooting and underclocking). This phone is just disappointing. I could relate to every single line as I read through your post. Weirdly, I'm just happy to know that Im not the only one feeling this way about this "flagship" device.
I'm coming from a very old OnePlus6 which STILL works perfectly fine on a custom Android with close to 4-5 hours of SOT in a full days usage. I charge it only in the night, sometimes it even makes it through the night..
I thought S22 with a higher battery (and NEW) will at least give 6 hours SOT but man was I wrong!!
So initially I used Smart Switch, and I got a terrible SOT of 1-2.
I did factory reset and manually set up the phone and I got about 3 hours of SOT.
I went through the debloating process and now I'm 3-4 hours of SOT.. Still that is so horrible for a flagship!
Its such a let down honestly! I get a flagship and paid so much money and this is such a huge issue! And I hate the font size on the notifications/panel.. it is just not proportional to the overall system font size! And not to forget, the phones takes about 1-1.5 hours to charge. Such a pain when are used to the OnePlus DashCharge which blazes through. Fast Charge on Samsung is such a shame
S22 is seeming to be a mistake. I'm considering swapping this for a Oneplus 10 Pro OR an iPhone 13! You made a similar switch? Looking for advice on fixing this brick of a phone or recommendation on alternate device.
Maybe custom ROMs or Updates in the future will make S22 better?
Edit: I too have a SM-S9010
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I doubt anything will improve things the way we want. Unless we see a complete revamp of how apps use the CPU, which is a deep optimization process, that should done by Google all the way to a system level, things simply cannot improve in such a drastic way. After doing some math, a 1% idle drain or 15-20% active drain is something relatively decent because it's based on the battery inside the phone. The real capacity of the 3700mAh is actually 3590. So it's even worse than it appears. We've got to accept in the end that Samsung ****ed up this year with the smaller phone, despite the sales numbers.
Anyway, I also had a OP6 which I really liked until the software went completely 180 and disappointed me with that insane redesign which went against everything OP started with.
Anyway, back to the S22. I'm not really bothered by the charging speed. However, considering the terrible battery life, a much quicker charging speed was rudimentary to compensate for the other thing. Samsung doesn't give a **** though. So long as business gets better.
The bottom line is, and I reached to this conclusion the hard way cause I can say that I lost a lot of money in market value in the past 3 years, is that in the Android world, if you want a flagship device with very good battery life, you've got to go big. Otherwise you'll be disappointed. On iOS, you can get that with the smaller phones. Choosing the bigger phone in that situation, will get you the best battery life on the entire phone market. Android needs more mAh to compensate for sudden idle drain, services that have seizures out of the blue and the regular active drain due to poor app optimization. The bigger the battery, the more mAh for those unexpected things to eat and the less you'll have to worry about the battery life, as long as it easily gets you through the day. But if you want to keep using a smaller phone, something that actually fits in your pocket, then I'm afraid only Apple can offer you the best. iOS is in a completely different league in terms of optimization. Not to mention how perfectly smooth everything in every corner is. That is the true definition of buttery smooth no matter the action you do and no matter the app you're using. On Android frame drops/stutters are a regular and no matter the phone I used, they've always been there, despite the claims. I guess I've got more sensitive eyes. Even so, on iOS, those frame drops are so rare, that you really get a truly delightful experience 99% of the times. Not to mention that the 120Hz experience on iOS is actually smoother than the 120Hz on Android, if that makes any sense. All the polish the OS receives is very noticeable on that 120Hz panel. The way the OS works is what you need to get used to, the restrictions and so on. If you can get past that, you're good to go.
So if you want to throw away the S22, thing that I wouldn't blame you for, a 13 Pro is what I'd suggest to you, if you wanna keep using a small phone but if you want the best of the best, go with the Max brick version.
I'm personally waiting for the 14 lineup and I'm most confident I'm gonna get the 14 Pro Max. I want to never worry about battery life. For me it's 2 big compromises I have to accept: iOS and the phone size.
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I doubt anything will improve things the way we want. Unless we see a complete revamp of how apps use the CPU, which is a deep optimization process, that should done by Google all the way to a system level, things simply cannot improve in such a drastic way. After doing some math, a 1% idle drain or 15-20% active drain is something relatively decent because it's based on the battery inside the phone. The real capacity of the 3700mAh is actually 3590. So it's even worse than it appears. We've gonna accept in the end that Samsung ****ed up this year with the smaller phone, despite the sales numbers.
Anyway, I also had a OP6 which I really liked until the software went completely 180 and disappointed me with that insane redesign which went against everything OP started with.
Anyway, back to the S22. I'm not really bothered by the charging speed. However, considering the terrible battery life, a much quicker charging speed was rudimentary to compensate for the other thing. Samsung doesn't give a **** though. So long as business gets better.
The bottom line is, and I reached to this conclusion the hard way cause I can say that I lost a lot of money in market value lost in the past 3 years, is that in the Android world, if you want a flagship device with very good battery life, you've got to go big. Otherwise you'll be disappointed. On iOS, you can get that with the smaller phones. Choosing the bigger phone in that situation, will get you the best battery life on the entire phone market. Android needs more mAh to compensate for sudden idle drain, services that have seizures out of the blue and the regular active drain due to poor app optimization. The bigger the battery, the more mAh for those unexpected things to eat and the less you'll have to worry about the battery life as long as it easily gets you through the day. But if you want to keep using a smaller phone, something that actually fits in your pocket, then I'm afraid only Apple can offer you the best. iOS is in a completely different league in terms of optimizations. Not to mention how perfectly smooth everything in every corner is. That is the true definition of buttery smooth no matter the action you do and no matter the app you're using. On Android frame drops/stutters are a regular and no matter the phone I used, they've always been there, despite the claims. I guess I've got more sensitive eyes. Even so, on iOS, those frame drops are so are, that you really get a delightful experience 99% of the times. Not to mention that the 120Hz experience on iOS is actually smoother than 120Hz on Android, if that makes any sense. All the polish the OS receives is very noticeable on that 120Hz panel. The way the OS works is what you need to get used to, the restrictions and so on. If you can get past that, you're good to go.
So if you want to throw away the S22, thing that I wouldn't blame you for, a 13 Pro is what I'd suggest to you, if you wanna keep using a small phone but if you want the best of the best, go with the Max brick version.
I'm personally waiting for the 14 lineup and I'm most confident I'm gonna get the 14 Pro Max. I want to never worry about battery life. For me it's 2 big compromises I have to accept: iOS and the phone size.
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Well, I guess that's what I'm planning to do too. Wait for the next iPhone. Until then I'll keep charging my S22.. and who knows maybe some miracle update from samsung will fix its battery time!
syedtahir16 said:
Well, I guess that's what I'm planning to do too. Wait for the next iPhone. Until then I'll keep charging my S22.. and who knows maybe some miracle update from samsung will fix its battery time!
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Ha Ha! I don't believe in miracles. A company that decides to address the issue by creating a mod or something to replace the back glass with something else that fits a bigger battery inside. That is a miracle to me
Thing is, the more you try to optimize this phone, the worse it gets
This is also the case for the adaptive battery that samsung has put on.
Sure you'll get good sot on any phone if you're locked in an app at low brightness for few hours that just scrolls through or plays videos.
But as soon as you start auto killing running apps and do multitasking with them after that, you'll barely get 2-3 hours sot.
Best I got from the exynos version on this was about 4.5 hours SOT with all settings I need enabled and gw4 conected to it.
But the average days (phone outside on higher brightness) are way below that. Using the doze mode when screen off, fingerprint disabled when screen is off, most of the bloatware /junk apps disabled or put in deep sleeping mode. (no root). I keep my phone at 85% and recharge when Im home/office whenever possible
Iphone really naied this down since the by just freezing the active proceeses for the standby adavantage.
The cpu doesnt really have to do anything when you relaunch them.
Im quite surprised android cannot do the same in 2022
Such a shame, this would've been the perfect compact phone if the software was done right on it.
But where is the $$$ for google/samsung for tracking everything you do ?
No matter what settings you try to disable, the phone constantly scans for gps/wifi/bluetooth devices (google's gms even claims this is for covid purposes in their TOS now)
Thank you everyone for the debate above. Understand that battery differs from one another, it seems that most people probably belongs to the side where the battery is insufficient to last through the day, or barely.
I love this phone so so much, and I got the Graphite model.
I hate to say goodbye, but I'll be going back to Pixel 5, and hoping S24, or whatever, will be a more optimized S22, keeping the compact phone size.
I use a snapdragon gen 1 s22. The battery is not terrible but also not great. An SOT of 3hrs for 3 days standby is what i get with max hz app installed, power saving on, debloated, sync on for two mailboxes. I get more SOT with less standyby time( if i watch youtube videos). I think its a nice balance for a compact phone. I had the pixel 6 before this but it was too heavy and big though the battery was slightly better.
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Thank you everyone for the debate above. Understand that battery differs from one another, it seems that most people probably belongs to the side where the battery is insufficient to last through the day, or barely.
I love this phone so so much, and I got the Graphite model.
I hate to say goodbye, but I'll be going back to Pixel 5, and hoping S24, or whatever, will be a more optimized S22, keeping the compact phone size.
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You can get a Pixel 5 in mint condition for extremely cheap. I also looked up one cause I'm really considering getting one.
dragos281993 said:
You can get a Pixel 5 in mint condition for extremely cheap. I also looked up one cause I'm really considering getting one.
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Im a pixel fanboy. But recently with the bugs, poor call quality and the random battery drains i chose to move on. I hate the material you in android 12. Atleast i need an option to switch it off. I cant root as i need to use bank apps in my phone.
Here is a screen shot of my s22's battery usage for the past two days.
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You can get a Pixel 5 in mint condition for extremely cheap. I also looked up one cause I'm really considering getting one.
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Yup I got one myself now. Only downside is the under display firing top speaker which makes the volume thin and muffled. Other than that, I'm very happy with the phone!
And for god-knows-what reason, Pixel 5 rocks a 4080 mAh battery. Wonder why tf S22 weighs heavier and unable to carry a bigger battery. Bells and whistles, but neglected this basic need of a phone
Gymcode said:
Yup I got one myself now. Only downside is the under display firing top speaker which makes the volume thin and muffled. Other than that, I'm very happy with the phone!
And for god-knows-what reason, Pixel 5 rocks a 4080 mAh battery. Wonder why tf S22 weighs heavier and unable to carry a bigger battery. Bells and whistles, but neglected this basic need of a phone
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If im not wrong the pixel 5 is made of aluminum(sides and back) but the S22 is made of glass(back). Thats the reason for the weight difference.
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If im not wrong the pixel 5 is made of aluminum(sides and back) but the S22 is made of glass(back). Thats the reason for the weight difference.
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That is true. But SN8Gen1 is too much to handle for a reduced battery size. I'll go to Samsung shop to see how S22+ feels in the hand, as the battery size is bigger. But for now I'll stick with Pixel 5.