Hi guys just after some info. What is the difference between rooting and unlocking the bootloader on the LG G3.
Also do you have to have the bootloader unlocked to install the various stock roms kicking about on the forum , if not why not.
Thanks for the information just after understanding how this stuff works. Many thanks
Rooting basically let's you modify the system files anyway you want where as the boot loader is there to stop the loading of custom ROMs essentially as long as you rooted and bumped the device flashing twrp you can flash any custom rom but I think you need the kk bootloader not the new lollipop one
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Neurom707 said:
Rooting basically let's you modify the system files anyway you want where as the boot loader is there to stop the loading of custom ROMs essentially as long as you rooted and bumped the device flashing twrp you can flash any custom rom but I think you need the kk bootloader not the new lollipop one
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Thanks mate
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Is there any pratical difference between kk bootloader and new lollipop one ?
JoaoVr said:
Is there any pratical difference between kk bootloader and new lollipop one ?
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Yes. The Lollipop aboot is going to break the current "Bump!" method of getting custom ROMs on. However, the devs will likely bypass that, just don't take an OTA before it's cleared on here (likely won't be).
JoaoVr said:
Is there any pratical difference between kk bootloader and new lollipop one ?
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Yes. the lollipop one is more picky about what ROMs it will start, and I believe it has the Bump exploit fixed.
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I'm gonna root and install a custom ROM on my friend's phone and I'm just wondering if I need to update the bootloader before installing any ROMs?
So should I root, then flash the bootloader update via Odin before installing a ROM?
Or can anyone give me a good process for doing that, it would really help
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x10user2011 said:
I'm gonna root and install a custom ROM on my friend's phone and I'm just wondering if I need to update the bootloader before installing any ROMs?
So should I root, then flash the bootloader update via Odin before installing a ROM?
Or can anyone give me a good process for doing that, it would really help
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What version bootloader do you have now and version do you think you need?
I simply did a search on "bootloader" and found this relevant thread for you. Take a look a post #2.
Hope it helps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2346733&highlight=bootloader
Rick-SG3 said:
What version bootloader do you have now and version do you think you need?
I simply did a search on "bootloader" and found this relevant thread for you. Take a look a post #2.
Hope it helps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2346733&highlight=bootloader
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I meant like my friend's phones are purely stock.. And I'm on a custom ROM. About a month ago we all got bootloader updates in order to use new ROMs so I'm wondering if that's what I need to do for my friends too, before flashing them a rom
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x10user2011 said:
I meant like my friend's phones are purely stock.. And I'm on a custom ROM. About a month ago we all got bootloader updates in order to use new ROMs so I'm wondering if that's what I need to do for my friends too, before flashing them a rom
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I'm sure that it depends on what version bootloader is currently installed, and what version your ROM of choice requires. The fact that their phone is now "Stock" doesn't tell you anything. I am running a nightly version (7/7/13) of Rootbox (Doesn't get any newer than that) on a one year old S3, and have never updated my "Stock" bootloader because it was not necessary for what I need - and there isn't one newer.
Every time you flash, you are taking the chance of something screwing up. The only thing worse than bricking your phone would be bricking someone else's. IMO, you need to do some more research to answer your own question. The devil is in the details.
Good Luck.
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I'm gonna root and install a custom ROM on my friend's phone and I'm just wondering if I need to update the bootloader before installing any ROMs?
So should I root, then flash the bootloader update via Odin before installing a ROM?
Or can anyone give me a good process for doing that, it would really help
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If he is on the most current stock update provided by the carrier then the bootloader should already be updated.
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I'm waiting to get my m8 in just a moment but I'm a little confused.
On Samsung you got the recovery, kernel and rom, that's about it. But what are the RUU files everybody is talking about? Also I'm a little unsure how to root and what s off enables me to do in practice.
Does the HTC follow the same concept?
I haven't found any popular topics on how to root the device yet.
Any help?
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Shebee said:
I'm waiting to get my m8 in just a moment but I'm a little confused.
On Samsung you got the recovery, kernel and rom, that's about it. But what are the RUU files everybody is talking about? Also I'm a little unsure how to root and what s off enables me to do in practice.
Does the HTC follow the same concept?
I haven't found any popular topics on how to root the device yet.
Any help?
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M8 Bible
Pretty much the same, unlock bootloader at HTC Dev, install custom recovery then install rom. You can use firewater for s off, although this doesnt work for all m8s
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M8 Bible
Pretty much the same, unlock bootloader at HTC Dev, install custom recovery then install rom. You can use firewater for s off, although this doesnt work for all m8s
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Does unlocking the bootloader void warranty?
I read that s off most likely won't void it.
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Shebee said:
Does unlocking the bootloader void warranty?
I read that s off most likely won't void it.
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you request a unlock token whih HTC will have a record of your request but there is no proof u would have used it to void warranty. most peeps will need to use this for s off anyway unless the temp root method works but i have heard from lots of people that is is not really an issue so u can return to stock 100% and warranty shouldn't be affected
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you request a unlock token whih HTC will have a record of your request but there is no proof u would have used it to void warranty. most peeps will need to use this for s off anyway unless the temp root method works but i have heard from lots of people that is is not really an issue so u can return to stock 100% and warranty shouldn't be affected
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Thanks, really helpful.
I don't quite understand RUU files though, are they just update packages, much like flashing a rom, what it the difference?
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Shebee said:
Thanks, really helpful.
I don't quite understand RUU files though, are they just update packages, much like flashing a rom, what it the difference?
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RUUs are usually used to return to stock or update stock phones via PC. they flash ROM, kernel, firmware and stock recovery usually. they are rare as rocking horse sh#t now though but there us a thread with stock backups.
Shebee said:
Thanks, really helpful.
I don't quite understand RUU files though, are they just update packages, much like flashing a rom, what it the difference?
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The RUU (ROM Upgrade Utility) is the same as the Samsung firmware files (available on SamMobile) used to go back to 100% stock
hi, I just recently aquired the Nexus 7 2013 model, and I am currently not rooted. I want to root but I dont want to run CM or all the other custom roms. I just want a stock rooted rom.
Is there a stock rooted 4.4.2 rom for this device?
That is all, thanks!
There is one here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2563017
You will need a custom recovery in order to flash it!
Or you can just flash the SuperSU zip in recovery and it'll be rooted
IamFlynn said:
hi, I just recently aquired the Nexus 7 2013 model, and I am currently not rooted. I want to root but I dont want to run CM or all the other custom roms. I just want a stock rooted rom.
Is there a stock rooted 4.4.2 rom for this device?
That is all, thanks!
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You will need to unlock the bootloader first before flashing a root zip. Then you will have a stock rooted ROM. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XM3CBtAaoWU
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LinearEquation said:
You will need to unlock the bootloader first before flashing a root zip. Then you will have a stock rooted ROM. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XM3CBtAaoWU
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I'm curious. I've never used a device with a locked bootloader. Since this tablet is about to get the 4.4.3 update, will unlocking the bootloader affect the update? Will I still receive the update.
I'm planning on unlocking the bootloader but not flashing the rootzip yet until I get the update.
IamFlynn said:
I'm curious. I've never used a device with a locked bootloader. Since this tablet is about to get the 4.4.3 update, will unlocking the bootloader affect the update? Will I still receive the update.
I'm planning on unlocking the bootloader but not flashing the rootzip yet until I get the update.
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Yes, you will still receive the OTA. Having an unlocked bootloader has no effect on updating via OTA.
You could just root and then re-lock the bootloader
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webyrd said:
You could just root and then re-lock the bootloader
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That won't work. If you relock the bootloader everything has to be stock.
It would just refuse to lock
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matt4321 said:
That won't work. If you relock the bootloader everything has to be stock.
It would just refuse to lock
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Only recovery needs to be stock to relock the bootloader, you can unlock, root and then relock - then you have rooted stock ROM and a locked bootloader without having to flash a custom recovery or ROM.
webyrd said:
Only recovery needs to be stock to relock the bootloader, you can unlock, root and then relock - then you have rooted stock ROM and a locked bootloader without having to flash a custom recovery or ROM.
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Are you sure? This wasn't the case with my Motorola Xoom. I thought everything needs to be stock, wouldn't this defeat the point of relocking since its meant to be factory settings for warranty purposes?
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matt4321 said:
Are you sure? This wasn't the case with my Motorola Xoom. I thought everything needs to be stock, wouldn't this defeat the point of relocking since its meant to be factory settings for warranty purposes?
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Have done it on both my N7 and N5 - does provide a small measure of security for the phone (my company allows rooted devices, but only with locked bootloaders) see http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/help/info-understanding-risks-unlocked-t1898664
after rooting - fastboot oem lock
webyrd said:
Have done it on both my N7 and N5 - does provide a small measure of security for the phone (my company allows rooted devices, but only with locked bootloaders) see http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/help/info-understanding-risks-unlocked-t1898664
after rooting - fastboot oem lock
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fair enough, I stand corrected! Didn't know you could re-lock a rooted device.
So could you flash OmniROM, flash stock recovery and re-lock?
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fair enough, I stand corrected! Didn't know you could re-lock a rooted device.
So could you flash OmniROM, flash stock recovery and re-lock?
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From what I understand, yes, that is correct - although I have heard that some ROMs require a custom recovery
webyrd said:
From what I understand, yes, that is correct - although I have heard that some ROMs require a custom recovery
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Hmm interesting, a lot has changed since I've done any relocking so I'll read up about.
Thanks for clarifying some things
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Hey guys,
I was just wondering if someone found a way to root the xperia Z5 premium running on marshmallow 6.0.1
Unlock boot loader with flashtool. Flash this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3355369. Simplest way
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but if flash with this method have not lost Drm keys?
first, you have to flash android 5.X any version
second, make a root kernel or download one
third, unlocked bootloader your devices
fourth, flash android 6.0.1 and flash root kernel
finish ! enjoy your root devices
Well... The method I mentioned has the DRM simulation included. Read some in the tread if you are unsure.
Not sure why you should mess with 5.x before rooting... I rooted directly when unlocking 6.0.0 and downloading the 6.0.1 version with flashtool.
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tommy1616 said:
first, you have to flash android 5.X any version
second, make a root kernel or download one
third, unlocked bootloader your devices
fourth, flash android 6.0.1 and flash root kernel
finish ! enjoy your root devices
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The reason for flashing android 5.X is only if you've not already unlocked the bootloader and decided on taking a TA backup so you can restore the phone to stock in the future
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swejuggalo said:
Well... The method I mentioned has the DRM simulation included. Read some in the tread if you are unsure.
Not sure why you should mess with 5.x before rooting... I rooted directly when unlocking 6.0.0 and downloading the 6.0.1 version with flashtool.
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KbaB.BroS said:
The reason for flashing android 5.X is only if you've not already unlocked the bootloader and decided on taking a TA backup so you can restore the phone to stock in the future
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You can fully reactivate your drm keys as well on an unlocked bootloader (so not just emulate and for restore to stock) if you backed up your TA with iovyroot on LL by flashing restore-drm-keys.ftf
Hello guys, i'm planning to unlock my phone's bootloader, since its my first time on my Zenfone(I only use tethered recovery to flash root and xposed, i also have experience of unlocking the bootloader before on my previous device Xperia ZR but done it in a official way) i was wondering if the unofficial method i'm reading on some sites won't void my Asus warranty?
If any of this links is the right tutorial for unlocking bootloader in a unofficial way, kindly tell me if its still working for the latest 2.20.40.184 LP Firmware:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenf...-root-t3155884
http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenf...ocked-t3138547
Plz correct the links above
This is the correct link http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/general/congrats-to-bootlocker-unlocked-t3138547
Try it with the current firmware if it doesn't work then u can try dowgrading
U should see a white boot screen instead of black if its unlocked
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Plz correct the links above
This is the correct link http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/general/congrats-to-bootlocker-unlocked-t3138547
Try it with the current firmware if it doesn't work then u can try dowgrading
U should see a white boot screen instead of black if its unlocked
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Thanks for this reply sir, btw is there any way to relock my bootloader after using this method?
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Flynhx said:
Thanks for this reply sir, btw is there any way to relock my bootloader after using this method?
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Nope there is no way to lock ur bootloader once unlocked(unless u want to flash MM Beta Firmware)
yakub234go said:
Nope there is no way to lock ur bootloader once unlocked(unless u want to flash MM Beta Firmware)
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I see, after using the unofficial unlocker asus won't recognize my device from using it right? so i still got my warranty even if i flash MM Beta to relock my bootloader?
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Flynhx said:
I see, after using the unofficial unlocker asus won't recognize my device from using it right? so i still got my warranty even if i flash MM Beta to relock my bootloader?
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Yes if they don't find it via other means then u r ok with warranty
I don't recommend flashing the MM Beta Firmware cause it can potentially brick ur device
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Yes if they don't find it via other means then u r ok with warranty
I don't recommend flashing the MM Beta Firmware cause it can potentially brick ur device
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Actually, i already tried MM Beta before but i got annoyed by the bugs and lack of root functionality before so i reverted back to LP Stock.
Gonna wait for the MM Final release instead, atleast now i know how to unlock bootloader when MM Final is release incase there's no Tethered Recovery yet. thanks again for the response and tip.
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Flynhx said:
Actually, i already tried MM Beta before but i got annoyed by the bugs and lack of root functionality before so i reverted back to LP Stock.
Gonna wait for the MM Final release instead, atleast now i know how to unlock bootloader when MM Final is release incase there's no Tethered Recovery yet. thanks again for the response and tip.
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I highly doubt that the current bootloader unlock method would work on MM Official release cause it doesnt work on MM Beta
Maybe some new method will be sorted out:fingers-crossed: