Hi guys
So I got to thinking. Why does an installed app from Amazon get on the home screen but a sideloaded app doesn't.
I took a look at the manifests of tvplayer from Amazon and google. The tvplayer downloaded from Amazon has lots of references to Amazon.com. Which one would allow a sideloaded apk with a modified manifest to appear on the aftv home screen?
dbaseii said:
Hi guys
So I got to thinking. Why does an installed app from Amazon get on the home screen but a sideloaded app doesn't.
I took a look at the manifests of tvplayer from Amazon and google. The tvplayer downloaded from Amazon has lots of references to Amazon.com. Which one would allow a sideloaded apk with a modified manifest to appear on the aftv home screen?
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I think it has to do with the app being in your Amazon cloud. It's quite complicated as it doesn't really show a list of apps installed on your device.
rbox said:
I think it has to do with the app being in your Amazon cloud. It's quite complicated as it doesn't really show a list of apps installed on your device.
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Thanks for your reply rbox. Thought I was onto something.
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Thanks for your reply rbox. Thought I was onto something.
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On one of my lists of things to do is finish my AllApps mod to my xposed mod. It gives you a standard grid list of the installed apps.
rbox said:
On one of my lists of things to do is finish my AllApps mod to my xposed mod. It gives you a standard grid list of the installed apps.
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Yes but you need root for that. All the aftv's sold in the UK are not rootable at the moment.
dbaseii said:
Yes but you need root for that. All the aftv's sold in the UK are not rootable at the moment.
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Yeah. The closest you'll get with an unrootable unit is the FiredTV launcher over in the apps section.
rbox said:
Yeah. The closest you'll get with an unrootable unit is the FiredTV launcher over in the apps section.
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Tried that. Not exactly eye candy. Went back to original launched with the llama mod to show SPMC.
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Hi Guys, I've read a lot of stuff on here, and I'm a little confused.
I'm getting my Fire Tv to, with the intention of rooting it to use as an XBMC box.
I understand that it may come with frimware that can't be rooted (not without some soldering anyway) how could I check that?
Do I need to block the update sites in my router before switching it on?
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Hi Guys, I've read a lot of stuff on here, and I'm a little confused.
I'm getting my Fire Tv to, with the intention of rooting it to use as an XBMC box.
I understand that it may come with frimware that can't be rooted (not without some soldering anyway) how could I check that?
Do I need to block the update sites in my router before switching it on?
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I'm in the UK and just received my Fire TV.
I blocked the updates at my router using the guide from aftvnews website.
However, my Fire TV won't complete the setup without updating.
It seems there is no way around this, so I either put it back in it's box and await some way to get around it, or I let it update and use it without root.
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I'm in the UK and just received my Fire TV.
I blocked the updates at my router using the guide from aftvnews website.
However, my Fire TV won't complete the setup without updating.
It seems there is no way around this, so I either put it back in it's box and await some way to get around it, or I let it update and use it without root.
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Bugger. That's what I was afraid of.
Thanks for your reply mate.
Which firmware did your UK AFTV come installed with? Here's a list
http://www.aftvnews.com/software/
helicon9 said:
I'm in the UK and just received my Fire TV.
I blocked the updates at my router using the guide from aftvnews website.
However, my Fire TV won't complete the setup without updating.
It seems there is no way around this, so I either put it back in it's box and await some way to get around it, or I let it update and use it without root.
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Thanks for the info. Still have my US bought one for ages ago, so will continue using that for now.
Out of curiosity, did you go through the install process anyway? If you did, just curious what firmware Uk ships with and what it attempts to download.
Cheers
eskay993 said:
Thanks for the info. Still have my US bought one for ages ago, so will continue using that for now.
Out of curiosity, did you go through the install process anyway? If you did, just curious what firmware Uk ships with and what it attempts to download.
Cheers
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I went through the install process anyway as not too fussed about root as long as XBMC works.
I don't know what firmware it shipped with because I couldn't access it with letting the update run, but it asked me to select language on setup, so I assume it was one of the 51.1.3. versions.
Anyhow, it updated and firmware is now 51.1.4.0_user_514006420.
So looks like a brand new firmware. I won't hold my breath for root on this one!!
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I went through the install process anyway as not too fussed about root as long as XBMC works.
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Oh, you can use XBMC without root? Even play media from a local usb drive?
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Oh, you can use XBMC without root? Even play media from a local usb drive?
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Yes you can install and run xbmc without root, just sideload over adb.
Root just enables you to use it as a launcher, so you can skip the fire tv interface.
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Yes you can install and run xbmc without root, just sideload over adb.
Root just enables you to use it as a launcher, so you can skip the fire tv interface.
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AHHHHHHHHH,RIIIIIIIIIIGGGGHHHHT.
I'll do that then, not that I have another option at the mo anyway!
Cheers.
helicon9 said:
I went through the install process anyway as not too fussed about root as long as XBMC works.
I don't know what firmware it shipped with because I couldn't access it with letting the update run, but it asked me to select language on setup, so I assume it was one of the 51.1.3. versions.
Anyhow, it updated and firmware is now 51.1.4.0_user_514006420.
So looks like a brand new firmware. I won't hold my breath for root on this one!!
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Cool thanks for the info. Wonder if new firmware is why I can't install Netflix from UK store on a US device. Time will tell!
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AHHHHHHHHH,RIIIIIIIIIIGGGGHHHHT.
I'll do that then, not that I have another option at the mo anyway!
Cheers.
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Just one thing to note.. You also asked about playing media off an external usb device. I believe this does need root, but worth double checking that. XBMC works fine with media from a network share or NAS though without root.
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Cool thanks for the info. Wonder if new firmware is why I can't install Netflix from UK store on a US device. Time will tell!
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Just one thing to note.. You also asked about playing media off an external usb device. I believe this does need root, but worth double checking that. XBMC works fine with media from a network share or NAS though without root.
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Hmmmm, yes, i thought I'd read that. All the media is on a usb drive, so i'll check. Thanks.
Hi
I got mine today too, unrootable
I have sideloaded Kodi, seems to work fine, though the Helix alpha did not work, so am using gotham 13.2.
Would be nice to have xbmc on the home screen... very lame having to tool through several menus to get to xbmc every time... hopefully some clever sod will hack this so it will work with android free from amazon's suffocation.
Mark.
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I got mine today too, unrootable
I have sideloaded Kodi, seems to work fine, though the Helix alpha did not work, so am using gotham 13.2.
Would be nice to have xbmc on the home screen... very lame having to tool through several menus to get to xbmc every time... hopefully some clever sod will hack this so it will work with android free from amazon's suffocation.
Mark.
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Are you able to play media from the usb at all?
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I got mine today too, unrootable
I have sideloaded Kodi, seems to work fine, though the Helix alpha did not work, so am using gotham 13.2.
Would be nice to have xbmc on the home screen... very lame having to tool through several menus to get to xbmc every time... hopefully some clever sod will hack this so it will work with android free from amazon's suffocation.
Mark.
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A half decent workaround is to use Llama and a "dummy" app to make xbmc/kodi launch when you click the dummy app on the home screen. There's a guide below (look at the "Semi Bypass" Section). Been using it for a while and works fine, as long as you don't mind clicking a random icon to launch kodi.
http://kodi.wiki/view/Amazon_Fire_TV#Llama_.28automation.29_Events
I'm using mine with a NAS. I think attaching USB hard drives does require root.
I use SPMC (non launcher version) and it shows up in recently used apps at the top of Fire TV main menu, so no having to dig through the settings sub menus.
This may be because it's also in Amazon App Store (though shows as not compatible with Fire TV).
fredphoesh said:
Hi
I got mine today too, unrootable
I have sideloaded Kodi, seems to work fine, though the Helix alpha did not work, so am using gotham 13.2.
Would be nice to have xbmc on the home screen... very lame having to tool through several menus to get to xbmc every time... hopefully some clever sod will hack this so it will work with android free from amazon's suffocation.
Mark.
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I've tried a few versions of xbmc, they all start up with the initial startup/config screen then instantly just boot back to the fire launcher, then when I click on xbmc to launch it looks like it's about to boot but then just comes straight back to the fire launcher.
Ive also installed plex with side load and that works ok?
Do you have any suggestions? thanks.
eskay993 said:
A half decent workaround is to use Llama and a "dummy" app to make xbmc/kodi launch when you click the dummy app on the home screen.
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Nice, thanks... alas too late, I have boxed my FireTV and put it on Ebay... too few apps that I like & want will work properly on this box, so I'm going to wait for a proper Lollipop Android TV !
chowynatt said:
I've tried a few versions of xbmc, they all start up with the initial startup/config screen then instantly just boot back to the fire launche
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I also had that with the first two versions I tried. I also tried to clean the data/cache on the app, see if that works?
seymour71 said:
Are you able to play media from the usb at all?
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sorry, I didn't try it and now my FireTV is in a box ready to be sold on ebay... I don't believe it will though, but don't know.
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Hi please see attached pic. How is this possible to display all your apps in this fashion? I have never seen this before nor is he saying how it's done. http://youtu.be/8SCsH86MYl8
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Hi please see attached pic. How is this possible to display all your apps in this fashion? I have never seen this before nor is he saying how it's done. http://youtu.be/8SCsH86MYl8
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I haven't played around with many launchers but that's what it is. Specifically, I think it may be this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2790392
There are no pics there either but just from reading a lot on this site and others that's what I think it is. In my opinion, these work best when kftv launcher is frozen (requires root and xposed) but some don't want to completely bypass it because you lose prime content. Its not the only launcher. there are lots of them but I do like this developer. He has shortcuts you can use from within kodi to launch youtube, netflix and get back to aftv homescreen.
If you are rooted and do freeze the main launcher I'd just use caution. The other day I read someone on a different site froze kftv with no backup launcher installed. Now he's stuck. I don't want to make it sound dangerous. I was actually using a different mod that launched right into xbmc without xposed modules but I was careful and had a fallback launcher so if anything went wrong I still had something to boot in to.
Or if you just want to safely play around and you aren't rooted you might try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2782307
I tried it when I first got AFTV and it's pretty cool but I notice it's had some nice updates since. It basically runs on top of KFTV launcher so I think hitting the home button takes you right back to the normal menu. It does help eliminate all the clicks it takes to get from start to the app you want--IMO one of the weaker points in the aftv ui
Thanks for the information. I'm going to look into it. I'm rooted with custom boot menu and clockworkmod recovery. If anything happens, I can easily boot into recovery and flash a rooted ROM again.
Klit75 its not firedtv launcher. I am not sure what it is, but definitely not that launcher.
The answer is simple, install the amazon app store apk, reboot, finished. Keep the apk, cause if you need to install amazon apps you will have to uninstall then reinstall when finished. It basically disables you from doing anything on the amazon store while you have the app store installed, but thats the way you get your apps to look like that.
porkenhimer said:
The answer is simple, install the amazon app store apk, reboot, finished. Keep the apk, cause if you need to install amazon apps you will have to uninstall then reinstall when finished. It basically disables you from doing anything on the amazon store while you have the app store installed, but thats the way you get your apps to look like that.
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I'm a little confused. The amazon app store is already installed by default on all Amazon Fire TV's. It's on the list of apps when you go to settings/manage installed apps/
Are you saying to download the amazon apk from elsewhere, sideload it and install it over the existing Amazon app store?
Newbie_from_NJ said:
I'm a little confused. The amazon app store is already installed by default on all Amazon Fire TV's. It's on the list of apps when you go to settings/manage installed apps/
Are you saying to download the amazon apk from elsewhere, sideload it and install it over the existing Amazon app store?
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That is exactly what he is saying it works but you wont be able to install anymore amazon apps. You would have to uninstall amazon appstore and resynch to get the firetv version of appstore.... soo install everything you need from the amazon app store first.
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That is exactly what he is saying it works but you wont be able to install anymore amazon apps. You would have to uninstall amazon appstore and resynch to get the firetv version of appstore.... soo install everything you need from the amazon app store first.
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lol Okay, will give it a try! Sounds simple enough. Amazon App Store sucks anyway and I already have the Play store installed.
I wonder if it will auto populate the list of apps when I install any new apps from Play Store? I'm also assuming sideloading apps doesn't get affected by this? I will try both when I get home and will report back my findings.
Thank you guys.
Hi all,
I have a 2nd gen FireTV, live in the UK, and I'm trying to install directv (not directv now). I've installed the tablet version from 1mobile market and that opens ok, let's me accept disclaimer, but then tells me my version is out of date.. When downloading newest version (5.0.107) from aptoide, it just doesn't open. Sometimes the disclaimer page loads for a second, but then it just closes again
I not 100% sure I have the right version for the FireTV
I have a US VPN connected
Any ideas?
Tripledrop said:
Hi all,
I have a 2nd gen FireTV, live in the UK, and I'm trying to install directv (not directv now). I've installed the tablet version from 1mobile market and that opens ok, let's me accept disclaimer, but then tells me my version is out of date.. When downloading newest version (5.0.107) from aptoide, it just doesn't open. Sometimes the disclaimer page loads for a second, but then it just closes again
I not 100% sure I have the right version for the FireTV
I have a US VPN connected
Any ideas?
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Try APKPure &/or APKMirror. Make sure you pick the right ARM or compatible Android version.
Y314K said:
Never mind.
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That's for directv now?
Tripledrop said:
That's for directv now?
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Updated info above.
Y314K said:
Updated info above.
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So should I choose the one for tablets?
Tripledrop said:
So should I choose the one for tablets?
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I would choose the tablets one just for the probably built-in landscape mode & the size of the channels guide alone.
Both versions seem to have been updated on the same day. Although they have different version numbers.
Y314K said:
I would choose the tablets one just for the probably built-in landscape mode & the size of the channels guide alone.
Both versions seem to have been updated on the same day. Although they have different version numbers.
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Ok tried that, seems exactly the same version that I got from aptoide, and closes just the same unfortunately ?
Tripledrop said:
Ok tried that, seems exactly the same version that I got from aptoide, and closes just the same unfortunately ?
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If your device is rooted. You might wanna try the XPosed Holo Themer module. See if that helps to open the App.
Try the non-tablet one next.
Could also be related to not having the PlayStore Services on our FTV's.
I tried the APKMirror tablet APK since it suppose to be nodpi. But it crashes as soon as it tries to load the agreement.
Tried the phone version too. That one crashes quicker. Will try to see if Holo Themer helps the Tablet App load later.
Hi,
I have an Nvidia Shield and Shudder released a Fire TV app but not one for the Shield.
The normal android app crashes so I was hoping someone could upload specifically the Fire TV version and I could side load that on to my Nvidia Shield (which has worked for other Fire TV only apps like NJPW World). I tried the download APK of Amazon chrome extension alas it wouldn't let me download the apk.
Thanks in advance.
excelsiorlef said:
Hi,
I have an Nvidia Shield and Shudder released a Fire TV app but not one for the Shield.
The normal android app crashes so I was hoping someone could upload specifically the Fire TV version and I could side load that on to my Nvidia Shield (which has worked for other Fire TV only apps like NJPW World). I tried the download APK of Amazon chrome extension alas it wouldn't let me download the apk.
Thanks in advance.
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Worked like a charm!
Thank you so much!
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Installation went well, but it keeps asking me to sign in to the Amazon App Store, and won't function until I do so. Any help would be great!
gunde015 said:
Installation went well, but it keeps asking me to sign in to the Amazon App Store, and won't function until I do so. Any help would be great!
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You can only work around this if you have root privileges. Otherwise you cannot avoid logging in.
rainman74 said:
You can only work around this if you have root privileges. Otherwise you cannot avoid logging in.
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How does that work? I'm sure it's a lot to explain. If it is, no worries!
gunde015 said:
How does that work? I'm sure it's a lot to explain. If it is, no worries!
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Install Lucky Patcher 7.3.8 and then disable the Amazon license verification for this app via ODEX modification
Hello.
I recently purchased a firetv stick gen 2 from a market.
I couldn't register the device and amazon have informed me the device is blacklisted.
Is there any way to bypass this? Amazon will not help
I bought a lot of 17 of the firesticks from ebay and thought I was getting an awesome deal! Turns out I ran into the same issue on all 17. What I learned on from the fine forums here made it all worth it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/firetv-firestick-stuck-update-screen-t3594843
Adrian806 said:
I bought a lot of 17 of the firesticks from ebay and thought I was getting an awesome deal! Turns out I ran into the same issue on all 17. What I learned on from the fine forums here made it all worth it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/firetv-firestick-stuck-update-screen-t3594843
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What did you learn?
jezzymods said:
What did you learn?
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I learned to use the fire tv remote app which gives you a settings gear button in top left corner. When connected to your network using the remote app an pressing settings button it allows you to bypass update screen. Then after going to enable usb debugging and unkown sources I was able to sideload with apps2fire the hyjack launcher, app starter, confireator, boot2appstarter. This allowed my blacklisted firestick to boot straight to appstarter launcher instead of getting hung up at update screen. I was able to sideload any third party apps that I wanted as well like mobdro, terrarium, kodi etc. I hope this helps and all the info I just stated is available in the link in my previous post with links to all necessary apks.
Has anyone found a workaround for new firmware? On the 2nd generation firesticks I can get to the settings but developer options are not there. On the 4k firestick I get past update to register but says my username and password dont exist. Any ideas would be much appreciated!
So Amazon bricks Fire TVs? How does that happen? Thanks.
Iwas told by amazon that my device thst I purchased off ebay was reported lost or stolen....
Adrian806 Did you ever find a fix for the newer 4k FireTV Stick?
jezzymods said:
What did you learn?
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He learnt that he wasted his money buying 17 amazon fire tv sticks that are useless
Adrian806 said:
Has anyone found a workaround for new firmware? On the 2nd generation firesticks I can get to the settings but developer options are not there. On the 4k firestick I get past update to register but says my username and password dont exist. Any ideas would be much appreciated!
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Did you find an answer? having the same issue
nicholetuvk said:
Did you find an answer? having the same issue
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Just some thoughts,
If you unlock it and install TWRP-
You can install a custom rom (firestick2 has a working rom, firestick4k has one with work in progress)
You can possible restore a back up from another one, but likely most things wont work.
There is post #3 here that claims to skip registration -
https://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/trying-to-skip-boot-update-brand-fire-t3752076
You will have to sideload apps or install a 3rd party appstore like F-Droid if you havent figured this out...
Good luck!
I did not see adb debugging options under the developer settings. Are those the same images you saw?
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Where do you put that url which section
Adrian806 said:
I bought a lot of 17 of the firesticks from ebay and thought I was getting an awesome deal! Turns out I ran into the same issue on all 17. What I learned on from the fine forums here made it all worth it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/firetv-firestick-stuck-update-screen-t3594843
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Where do you type the https:// forum. Xda on my laptop or fire stick
Michajin said:
Just some thoughts,
If you unlock it and install TWRP-
You can install a custom rom (firestick2 has a working rom, firestick4k has one with work in progress)
You can possible restore a back up from another one, but likely most things wont work.
There is post #3 here that claims to skip registration -
https://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/trying-to-skip-boot-update-brand-fire-t3752076
You will have to sideload apps or install a 3rd party appstore like F-Droid if you havent figured this out...
Good luck!
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If you have TWRP why not just disable the setup package from there?