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it is not my intention to wast space or irritate people i have searche and searched 1. just to let you know i cant get the ppckitchen cause i got kicked out because of a misunderstanding with one of there (gods) 2. some of the kitchens here are cool but dont support gps and rev-a. so my question is can some one help me with this problem, am willing to donate for a custom rom or can some one help me find a fully packed rom,i have sprint service the only one i have ever found that is fully packed was nexvision's hulk rom, does anyone know of a rom like that and is available,please help, oh yeah i have searched and if you have somthing to say about searching at least tell me where to look with details instead of just telling me to do more searchin please, tha\nk you for any help just to let anyone thinking i want a free ride without out doing any work, that is not my intention i am very willing to learn and to be patient in the process i would just appreciate anyone refering me to certain info to keep in mind that i dont always understand the language and that just because there is a definition to certain terms and meaning's i dont always get the meaning so anyone giving me info please have patience with me on alot how things are explained, thank you
Personally, I use a "Clean" ROM to help with storage space and other reasons. Some ROMs have things you may not want or need, and apps are always updated, so no sense in having two of the same thing. Plus it gives you more room for customization.
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it is not my intention to wast space or irritate people i have searche and searched 1. just to let you know i cant get the ppckitchen cause i got kicked out because of a misunderstanding with one of there (gods)
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lol - misunderstanding about what?
2. some of the kitchens here are cool but dont support gps and rev-a. so my question is can some one help me with this problem, am willing to donate for a custom rom or can some one help me find a fully packed rom,i have sprint service the only one i have ever found that is fully packed was nexvision's hulk rom, does anyone know of a rom like that and is available,please help, oh yeah i have searched and if you have somthing to say about searching at least tell me where to look with details instead of just telling me to do more searchin please, tha\nk you for any help
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Nex's hulk rom is the only fully packed one that I know of. Since you've obviously found it, why are you looking for something else?
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lol - misunderstanding about what?
Nex's hulk rom is the only fully packed one that I know of. Since you've obviously found it, why are you looking for something else?
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r u being rude i only ask cause u say i obviously, my post states that i am not allowed into the kitchen 1. the only link to that rom is in the kitchen 2. before i got kicked out when i tried to link to it it was dead and that is why i am looking for somthing else and 3. i stated that i was looking for help not more questions and that is not intended to be rude i just mean if you cant help me with any info why r u replying to my thread, just curious
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Personally, I use a "Clean" ROM to help with storage space and other reasons. Some ROMs have things you may not want or need, and apps are always updated, so no sense in having two of the same thing. Plus it gives you more room for customization.
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i would like to cook my own rom but i cant ever get anyone to give me details in lamens terms, im not slow its just that i see things in a physical form better than verbally or written and all i keep getting are links to the same info or when i give details on what i need help with they say that i dont tell them what i am looking for but some times they only read part of my thread or i dont know how to talk the language so i end up searching for custom roms, and i would start off with a clean one but it seems i can never remember the name of the apps or games that i want to put in them and the other thing is some people are able to pack in more stuff on there roms than others and they still run smooth and whe i add thing on a clean rom i can only get about a third or half of what they get in there roms before i run out of useable memory and to keep it running smooth
I tried cooking my own ROM, but in the end went to OMJ's ROM. I spent about 2 months trying to cook a ROM I liked and worked well. But, it is VERY time consuming, and you'll end up constantly flashing to fix something, add a tweak or 2, or add the newest package. Most of the "tutorials" for cooking can be vague, since there are far too many things involved, depending on what it is your planning to do. But, I would suggest finding one that fits you best and leaving it to the pro's. I'm not trying to say you can't do this, but the only real way to find your answers, is through simple trial & error.
well CHAMP can you lend me yer knowledge and lead me to a stable rom thats clean and maybe has touchflo and manilla2d and a good place to find the worlds biggest post for cab files so i can start my trial and error preferably with gps and rev-a,and i have heard of a mention somewhere about a manilla3d but havnt really been able to find any info on it maybe you could help even though i will continue to look myself, oh yeah a rom that still has a crap load of memory i think i saw one that had up to 160 or 170 of storage memory but cant remember where i saw it , thanks
my advice is to cook with vetvitos kitchen he has the some of the latest releases and has a simple kitchen to use that includes touchflo and manilla 2d and the thread is in this very section.
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my advice is to cook with vetvitos kitchen he has the some of the latest releases and has a simple kitchen to use that includes touchflo and manilla 2d and the thread is in this very section.
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i did try his kitchen i kept on getting lots of errors in the part after you make the selections and it starts processing what i selected but i couldn't fix all of them so i left it alone
did you try nexvisions manilla rom. its packed and is very good. I know you had an issue with him in the irc chat but his roms are good and im sure it was just a misunderstanding. here is a link to his rom thread http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=31344
hope this helps.
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did you try nexvisions manilla rom. its packed and is very good. I know you had an issue with him in the irc chat but his roms are good and im sure it was just a misunderstanding. here is a link to his rom thread http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=31344
hope this helps.
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thanks but when i say ****d out i mean no matter what link i use the ppckitchen wont even load, wich means i am blocked unless i use a foreign computer, but thanks anyway, and yes i have posted in that thread and asked him to let me back in and there is no response at all
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r u being rude i only ask cause u say i obviously, my post states that i am not allowed into the kitchen 1. the only link to that rom is in the kitchen 2. before i got kicked out when i tried to link to it it was dead and that is why i am looking for somthing else and 3. i stated that i was looking for help not more questions and that is not intended to be rude i just mean if you cant help me with any info why r u replying to my thread, just curious
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I was trying to help you. I don't know what the problem between you and Nex is, but if you don't state what happened, I sure can't help you there.
You don't need the kitchen to flash a ROM, so your reasoning is flawed. You did not state the link you found was dead...I naturally assumed you downloaded it and were now on a quest for similar feature packed roms.
Finally, like I said, there aren't any other ROMs like Nex's Hulk ROM. You can stop looking for something so packed - you won't find anything.
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thanks but when i say ****d out i mean no matter what link i use the ppckitchen wont even load, wich means i am blocked unless i use a foreign computer
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I can't understand what you are trying to say. What do you mean when you say "no matter what link I use the ppckitchen wont even load". Use small words, go slow, and preferably use pictures.
ok im back from my vacation and have been diong som searching, can someone teach me how to make a fully packed rom and i mean packed and that will be stable and dont expect it to be super fast but atleast not slow or slugish anyone out there up to help me
LOL.
He has no idea what he is talking about. Nex ROM are just a *.nbh file.
He is trying to flash it with nothing other than the nbh file. Obviously it didnt work. LOL
Until he learn how to read what people tells him he wont get it.
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I was trying to help you. I don't know what the problem between you and Nex is, but if you don't state what happened, I sure can't help you there.
You don't need the kitchen to flash a ROM, so your reasoning is flawed. You did not state the link you found was dead...I naturally assumed you downloaded it and were now on a quest for similar feature packed roms.
Finally, like I said, there aren't any other ROMs like Nex's Hulk ROM. You can stop looking for something so packed - you won't find anything.
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Honestly no one is going tot take the time to teach you how to make a ROM, you're gonna have to learn yourself through trial and error or else you need to try a ROM that someone else has made...There are plenty of these out there fully packed as well as clean with a clean ROM you can dl your own programs all you want and do the things that you would like to do to the ROM...Full ROM's are pretty packed and you can still add all the things that you would like...But ROM cooking will have o be something that you need to learn on your own by reading tutorials such as reading this :http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=25529
this thread will teach you how to customize a ROM that is already built add/remove all thanks goes to " rstoyguy "
So give it a shot.
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LOL.
He has no idea what he is talking about. Nex ROM are just a *.nbh file.
He is trying to flash it with nothing other than the nbh file. Obviously it didnt work. LOL
Until he learn how to read what people tells him he wont get it.
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i have know idea what you are talking about, because of course you cant flash a .nbh file by itself so yeah why would it work, and until i learn how to read what people tell me, well excuse me i didnt realize some people were born with this knowledge right out of the womb, i on the other hand am not so lucky so when im learning somthing new i have to ask people to have time and patience with me so that i can begin to understand and then learn to take some of these steps on my own, so if you have nothing positive to give i would appreciate it if you would let me continue my studies with someone who is willing to help
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Honestly no one is going tot take the time to teach you how to make a ROM, you're gonna have to learn yourself through trial and error or else you need to try a ROM that someone else has made...There are plenty of these out there fully packed as well as clean with a clean ROM you can dl your own programs all you want and do the things that you would like to do to the ROM...Full ROM's are pretty packed and you can still add all the things that you would like...But ROM cooking will have o be something that you need to learn on your own by reading tutorials such as reading this :http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=25529
this thread will teach you how to customize a ROM that is already built add/remove all thanks goes to " rstoyguy "
So give it a shot.
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yeah i have seen that and am still learning, but i may have stated myself wrong, cause after searching and asking alot i realize that time is very precious and little, i am just looking for someone to help me with steps involved in some of these processes cause alot of the tutorials can be kind of vauge and its not just me even some of the more advanced people have found this to be true also, they will sometimes just sometime jump to certain parts without saying how to get there or mention crtain things with out being more detailed and when i try to search to find out i cant find it, so i end up asking questions that people say that are out there and to search but alot of the time cant get someone to poiunt me into the right dirction except to where tutorials are and then say ive been there and then some one who knows what they are doing will post somthing and my need for help gets lost in the thread, but thank you for at least replying with somthing positive instead of trying to make me look like a tard
I think what they are trying to say is you need to spend more time reading and learning. In the mean time I would try out OMJ's rom as it has m2d, is fairly packed and is very stable imo.. but there are many other VERY good roms out there I just happen to prefer OMJ's for what I use my ppc for.
It takes a long time to learn all this stuff, I joined here on 2/26/08 and I only have two posts.. I joined ppcgeeks about the same time and I have about 100 posts.. I wish I could contribute more and help out but my schedule doesnt allow me to get too involved unfortunately. Although in that time (almost a YEAR) Ive learned how to build a rom with the ppckitchen kitchen and a ton of other stuff that I never knew you could do with a ppc..lol
It says you just joined in september and im not bashing you in anyway but heck flash one of the roms that one of these skilled chefs made and enjoy your phone for now while you take the time to learn..
Re-read your post again and you will realiase why you are such an idiot and no wonder nex and others just ignore you. You are nothing but arrogant and stupid. People give you advise and you just run right by without reading and then complain why people dont help you at ppcgeeks because you give the same kind of attitude you just give me. People keep teaching you how to flash his rom but you just keep ignoring them and complaining why it cannot be flashed instead of just listening. Learn to be humble. Learn to read and follow instructions. 'nuff said
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i have know idea what you are talking about, because of course you cant flash a .nbh file by itself so yeah why would it work, and until i learn how to read what people tell me, well excuse me i didnt realize some people were born with this knowledge right out of the womb, i on the other hand am not so lucky so when im learning somthing new i have to ask people to have time and patience with me so that i can begin to understand and then learn to take some of these steps on my own, so if you have nothing positive to give i would appreciate it if you would let me continue my studies with someone who is willing to help
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hey its being delievered on tuesday yaya
But what should i get for it?
I know youll link me to the stickies but im already readingh them and they don tell me what i need for my phone
So tell me, what mods are msuts for this phone?
Also what roms are recomended? And if i flash a rom does it affect the touch flow, aplications etc?
Cheers and any other info i should know. I hear i have to do some reg edit to use wifi at a decent speed??
thanks.
hey also is it possible to get itunes on my phone so i can sync it with my pc and play all my itunes music? As currently alot of it is in itunes format and cannot play on other players.
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hey also is it possible to get itunes on my phone so i can sync it with my pc and play all my itunes music? As currently alot of it is in itunes format and cannot play on other players.
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Id be interested in this too
NOOOOOBBBSSSS!! You just said it yourself, you must read the threads.
ROM issues you ust test outyourself, i can recoomend a rom, but possibly i'll have other way of using my phone than you.... look, read, test for yourself and youll see that this balckstone is quite a device.
Gr. Bram
ps. read this first, this will help you on the way: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45
So basicaly this isn't actually a forum to help people who dont know anything about it find out about apps which have been created by people here. How unhelpful.
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So basicaly this isn't actually a forum to help people who dont know anything about it find out about apps which have been created by people here. How unhelpful.
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No, what you'll find is that all the information you most likely need is already on this forum somewhere. Take a day or two,search, read, look at the wiki, and you will be in a much better position to understand what you can do and want to do with your phone.
I did the above and have flashed custom roms, various applications, registry tweaks, edited dlls and what not and am now very happy with my phone.
Yeah i have looked through theese for days. But there is just so much, especialy when i know so little. It is very hard to pick out whats good and whats not.
I was hoping uses of HD touch could just post what they feel is the best things that they use. And from that i could work out what to use.
But it appears people would rather turn their nose up because i dont know anything about moding theese.
It's not that i dont want to help you with finding apps and mods and tweaks, or helping you understand your device better, it the way you assume that someone displays every app on a plate so you can install without breaking a sweat.
All apps that are around for the HD are fully reviewed and archived in the wiki:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442663
This is a thread that you could have found easyly, since it's a wiki page and has been stickied in this subforum.
Also on the wiki, theres much info on upgrading and modding the HD's rom, search an you will find, not ask and takeoff without understanding.
We'd like to help if you have a problem, and you searched for it, and stated out what youve done by yourself to solve it.
The first thing youll have to do is find your own answers, then ask your question.
EDIT: In fact of the itunes music issue, you can play AAC files on the HD, this info i've found in the manual, RTFM!
Gr. Bram
i ahve looked through that several times actually. Ive identifyed some things. But generaly they arnt reviewed and ther is so many aplications that do the same job on there i dont know wahts best and i presume you guys do.
Its quite simple, i dont know whats good. You guys do, i ask instead of trawling through lists installing them all and trying them my self. Its not really unreasonable tbh. Ive never been met by so much hostility to a simple question that i presume is on everyones mind who gets a touch hd and is new to it all.
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also, what is manilla? i see it around alot.
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also, what is manilla? i see it around alot.
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Search my friend, whats the main word that pops off your screen whan you search for manila? Yes, Its touchflo3d! Manila what the HTC codeword when they developed the app, and it still uses manila in the registry and such.
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ahh i see, so does that mean roms that dont have "manilla" in the title dont use touch flo 3d?
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ahh i see, so does that mean roms that dont have "manilla" in the title dont use touch flo 3d?
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Due to your evident experience level with HTC products I would suggest that you refrain from playin about with roms until you are at least onto your second device.. stick to easy to install software for the moment and gain an understanding of how your device works.
i would ahve thought there would be a guide i could follow and it all be fairly simple. I have flashed bios's on my pc, overclocked etc. Im not new to learning such things. I have just never done it on a phone before.
I presume i can always reflash to the orginal if it goes wrong? But yeah i will be getting used to the phone first before i do do any flashing. But i definitly intend of flashing the rom. I got this phone with the intent on playing around with it and learning about it all.
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... I got this phone with the intent on playing around with it and learning about it all.
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Well... do that. Asking questions like "which apps should I install?" or "which ROM is the best?" doesn't make much more sense than asking "what is the tastiest food?" You will get as many different answers as there are people out there. In my oppinion this forum is for "how to do..." questions and not for "what to do..." - if you have any of the first kind, there is a good chance that someone will answer it.
As far as the ROMs go - every ROM more or less reflects the cooker's usage of the phone, so you WILL become 'flash-o-holic', because everyone has unique pattern of usage and you will think that the next ROM will be better suited for you, and the next one, and the next one... but the truth is that none of them is 100% tailored for you. My advice is - read carefully the sticky threads (there is a reason they are pinned above all else), always be sure you are not doing something irreversible and respect the work of others. And congratulations for the excelent choise of hardware .
Yeah i understand what your saying. Just like a direction to head at really.
Im going to try dutties first and seems to be very popular and i hear it speeds the phone up quite a bit.
And ahhh cant wait, so annoying i had to wait till friday to order it with weekend and bankholiday monday to wait! it was out of stock for weeks!
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I presume i can always reflash to the orginal if it goes wrong?
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If you dont know what you are doing you can turn your phone into an expensive paperweight..
mmm ok, shall defo make suer i got a good guide to follow first.
Im currently trying to find out what "cabs" are exacly. I see them menchened everywhere but it doesn't appear to be given a definition in the wiki. Might have missed it though. Not really sure what to type in google as typing "cab" doesn't really give the results i want.
Anyone got any links to good guilds, how too's, how they got started etc?
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mmm ok, shall defo make suer i got a good guide to follow first.
Im currently trying to find out what "cabs" are exacly. I see them menchened everywhere but it doesn't appear to be given a definition in the wiki. Might have missed it though. Not really sure what to type in google as typing "cab" doesn't really give the results i want.
Anyone got any links to good guilds, how too's, how they got started etc?
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A .cab file is an socalled "cabinet file" wich is used in windows for ages to install stuff. In desktop windows you dont see them anymore couse they are camouflaged by a .exe of .msi file, but they are used still today.
On windows mobile, all programs are installed by cab, so basically for you, a cab is an installer.
Gr. Bram
ive been searching for months and still havnt found any decent programs, the software wiki is useless as it doesnt even tell you what half the programs are or do!
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So basicaly this isn't actually a forum to help people who dont know anything about it find out about apps which have been created by people here. How unhelpful.
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Okay, if you're going to be nasty, I'll return the favour. If you're going to buy something as technically advanced as the Touch HD, and you have no clue (your word) as to what to do with it, perhaps you should stick with a less complicated device.
Second, most questions have already been answered in these forums. Do a simple search. If that, too, is beyond you, then this site, and others like it, are too advanced for you.
Stick with a basic flip-phone and you should be happy.
(shaking his head)
I was curious to what you the Developers of the awesome stuff we have for the Epic are using? Are you using the SDK tools we get from Google to make new things? Or are you using some other stuff? I kind of want to make some stuff but I don't know how?
Can you tell me what you used or are using to get where you are now? How do you do it? Can you tell me where or something?
Anything would be helpful.
And please no random "I want to know this too" or arguing to whats better? That would be saved for another post/thread. I do apologize if this is a repeat thread. I didn't see it on the front. I think this should be though.
I'm not at my computer at home right now, I'll update it later all of the apk tools.
1) Version control - I use subversion
2) Diff tool - I use beyond compare
3) Zip tool - I use 7zip
4) Issue tracking - I use Google code
5) Text editor - gVIM
6) Graphics - Photoshop CS5
I am curious as well.
Plapczyn, do you know of any tutorials on developing ROMs for the Epic? Does it require a lot of coding?
Source.google.com
Read it follow instructions to get and compile code. That lets you build a rom from source code where you can alter the os. The only source code that is released for the Epic is 2.1 As of now. If you have specific problems with doing any thing in their directions pm me.
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I am curious as well.
Plapczyn, do you know of any tutorials on developing ROMs for the Epic? Does it require a lot of coding?
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There are lots and lots and lots of tutorials. Google is your friend.
It doesn't require much coding, but you can do plenty of coding if you want.
Will check it out, thanks.
I was just curious because I am not much of a programmer. XHTML, CSS, and Basic PHP is about my limit lol.
These might help...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667298
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I am curious as well.
Plapczyn, do you know of any tutorials on developing ROMs for the Epic? Does it require a lot of coding?
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If you want to make roms, check out the Chef Central forum here on XDA. There are threads with a lot of info on how to do things. Also, you should check out what is going on the other Galaxy S forums. If you want to do dev stuff, you first need to figure out what you want to do, and then go from there. Making a rom (actually any development really, agnostic of device or system), is more about making and pulling in small incremental changes and testing them.
That's the best advice I can give you...is to always break things down into small incremental changes that can be tested in between. Use source control and CHECK IN your changes. This goes for simply swapping out pngs in apks, or doing kernel mods. That way, you always know where your latest working copy is and you what changes caused your system to break...which it inevitably will. Nobody codes things correctly the first time every time. We all have the urge to just make a whole bunch of changes at once and see if it works. The thought is that we don't have enough time to test everything in between. Trust me, you will spent 5 times more time fixing bugs by doing it this way, over just doing it right the first time.
thats good advice plapczyn, thank you. I will evaluate what I want to do and go from there. my #1 priority is app developement, to better my resume and help with my career, but I am interested is possibly experimenting in ROMs too.
Hey everyone, I have a couple of questions. First off as you can see from my post count I'm a lurker. I can remove/install ROMs, the basics, but never have I tried to add/remove apps or functions to one. So I've found a ROM I love, but it was designed with inactive phones in mind, to make them into second life usable music/video players. It has no phone functionality because of this. The one I'm interested in is by frickinjerms - Ubersonic - I hope I can modify others work for my personal use. Guess that should be a question too.
Would it be ok to add in phone functionality or would it be easier to find one with that already and just remove the fluff I don't want and add what I do?
As I understand it, I can just add it back in, but I'm unsure what files go back in. Is there a resource that outlines that anywhere, or can anyone throw me a bone?
Is it ok to modify the work of others for your personal use without asking, or should you seek approval first out of proper etiquette?
I've been searching through XDA and other sites looking for some basic beginners stuff for cooking up ROMs, but have only come across limited collections. I'm toying with dsixda's Android Kitchen right now, but would love to find other resources. So any pointers to learning resources would be great too.
Thanks!
For the last one, I personally believe that its not necessary to ask before modifying a rom thats for your personal use because only you will know about it anyway, and people do it all the time
You only need to ask for permission if you're reposting your personal version of someone elses rom
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For the last one, I personally believe that its not necessary to ask before modifying a rom thats for your personal use because only you will know about it anyway, and people do it all the time
You only need to ask for permission if you're reposting your personal version of someone elses rom
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I figured that was likely the case I just wanted to clarify it for myself. I know people put in a lot of work on some of their ROMs and don't want to step on toes.
Thanks for the response.
You know you could use a rom that does have phone functionality. Just throwing that out there.
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You know you could use a rom that does have phone functionality. Just throwing that out there.
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Whats the point of flavors if you're forced to pick the one you don't like? Just throwing that out there.
I don't think my questions were unreasonable either. I'm not asking for someone to build me something, I'm asking for the fishing pole, not the fish.
I'm interested in learning what tools I need and any guides to teach me how to create roms for my LG G3. Can anyone here help me out with this?
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I'm interested in learning what tools I need and any guides to teach me how to create roms for my LG G3. Can anyone here help me out with this?
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If you can't even search Google to find your answers, I'm sorry to say I think you might fail at creating ROMs
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I'm interested in learning what tools I need and any guides to teach me how to create roms for my LG G3. Can anyone here help me out with this?
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This is a good place to start. A lot of good information.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...mctr=(not provided)&__utmv=-&__utmk=193504046
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If you can't even search Google to find your answers, I'm sorry to say I think you might fail at creating ROMs
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Useless post, just delete it, don't be another **** on XDA for no good reason.
You dont know me
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If you can't even search Google to find your answers, I'm sorry to say I think you might fail at creating ROMs
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Please do me a favor keep your opinions about me to your self you don't know the first thing about me In the past I was a programmer using Pascal and basic which I created programs to test PCB's So I do know how to program just not android. I did google but I probably didn't phrase it right so didn't find the exact info I was looking for. As far as I'm concerned you are being rude and judgemental so the way I see it is in your best interest to keep your opinions to your self.
Thanks for the info Semantics am looking at it now.
I wish you the best, hoping to see a creation by you in the near future ?
@Semantics @IXChicharitoXI way to have a supportive attitude. We need more of that around here :good:
Thanks for the support it will be awhile since I have to learn everything from the bottom up.
jimmydee62 said:
Thanks for the support it will be awhile since I have to learn everything from the bottom up.
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Best way to start it by cooking your own personalized stock ROM. Learning as you go is a great way to retain that knowledge. After you get the hang of that move on to aosp. A lot of the same principles will carry over. Don't let haters get you down, I saw a guy post in the hacking and development section asking how to do something. He got lit up with insults but went on to do some really cool stuff. I didn't see this in actual time I was just curious about his othere projects and ran into it. One tip I would say is do not depend on kitchens. They work for a quick shortcut to get your stock ROM started but that's about all they are good for (they don't even work with this phone). Good luck!
ThePagel said:
Best way to start it by cooking your own personalized stock ROM. Learning as you go is a great way to retain that knowledge. After you get the hang of that move on to aosp. A lot of the same principles will carry over. Don't let haters get you down, I saw a guy post in the hacking and development section asking how to do something. He got lit up with insults but went on to do some really cool stuff. I didn't see this in actual time I was just curious about his othere projects and ran into it. One tip I would say is do not depend on kitchens. They work for a quick shortcut to get your stock ROM started but that's about all they are good for (they don't even work with this phone). Good luck!
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Yes I want to do it right but everywhere I look I see people doing work with the kitchen software which I have tried on one of the stock rooted deodexed roms I found here and your right very limited. I will keep looking and reading hopefully I will find some guides on the net which will show me how to do what I want to do. When I programmed before one of my friends helped me learn how to do it and I did learn from the bottom up with his help. So I know it is possible just need assistance getting there.