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Backing Up Everything

Apologies if this appears elsewhere but I have looked without success. If it does then a link to the solution would be great.
Basically I found this site a few weeks ago and since then have been tinkering with my phone. I've tried various roms, added different programs, played about with the settings and so on. Today I have finally got it just how I want it. It is overclocked to run quickly but safely. The today screen is perfect. It contains everything I need including my huge list of contacts. And my theme is spot-on. However usually in life when everything is right something big and hairy appears out of nowhere and dumps on you. Its got to the point where I panic every time I turn it on just in case it crashes and I need to start all over again.
My question therefore is if anyone knows of a utility (or can give detailed instructions) to completely back up the phone. Right down to the user settings, theme and contacts. If possible maybe even to create a rom image of my phone so that if it does ever crash I can reinstall the whole thing from one simple file. I assume this sort of thing must be possible because Kavana and Ricky produce such wonderful roms with various programs, etc pre-installed.
Can it be done? And if so - can it be done by an enthusiastic amateur or do you need to be a tech guru? I should add I don't mind paying if I need to buy a piece of commercial software to achieve this.
GS

Did you even bother to search google for "smartphone backup" ? The very first link that comes up, takes you right to the software you say you need. I apologize for being harsh, but I hate the lack of common sense...

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Not sure about the cooked 6.1 Roms. Maybe someone else might know or have tried.
http://www.spritesoftware.com/
I use this and it's well worth it.

if u just mean the saved registry values and what not u can always export the registry so that way if u have to hard reset the phone or if a new amazingly wowlike rom is released and u NEED to flash u can always import the registry values of the chomes and it'll be the way u left it (thats what I do for my myfaves and my programs)

OrganicM said:
Did you even bother to search google for "smartphone backup" ? The very first link that comes up, takes you right to the software you say you need. I apologize for being harsh, but I hate the lack of common sense...
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No problem, and you are entitled to your opinion. however its replies like that which stop people making posts to forums like this. Everyone has to start somewhere, and one man's obvious "common sense" answer is another man's dilemma.
As for using google... yep I could have done that but google links to hundreds of pages, some owned by people trying to sell software which obviously means they won't be objective. Others have methods which could damage a phone and because I don't know the writers how do I know which methods to trust? Ergo I decided to come to site I know, with people whose technical knowhow I trust, and to search the forum and then ask them for advice. To me, that is common sense. Isn't that one of the reasons that places like this exist? So non techheads can ask guys like you for help?
No offence intended and, for what its worth, you are one of the guys whose advice on this forum has helped me countless times. So thank you for that no matter what. Without your posts I'd never have got this far in the first place! I mean that.
As for the other replies... thanks guys. I will look into the registry stuff. And I will certainly check out the software link. If I do find some info on google, I hope you folks will help me pick the best method to use and avoid bad advice.
Thanks again.
GS

Okay the Sprite software is perfect. And now I've checked it out maybe my question was a stupid one. Still, its nice to have a recommendation from an independent source. I've been burnt in the past by bad google advice.
Sorry if I've wasted anyone's time.
GS

Adding aditional features

MODS LOCK! Figured it out

black981502 said:
I already have wm6.1 loaded on my 8525 but I would like to add features I had b4 like slide to unlock, sliding on the screen to get to music n pics and also the flash light
I am really confused as to what to do....can sum1 help me out ?
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The apps like slide 2 unlock and others which will add features can be found in the development and general sections of the forum, everything is easily found using the search function (both google and vbulletin versions).

There is tons of info and programs in this forum. You just need to take the time and read.

I downloaded them I just dont know how to load them to my 8525 so they work

As mrvanx said, all the cool stuff is in Development and Hacking:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=260
Read the Threads & Posts for subject details...have fun!

Ok thanks 4 the link

I still didnt find anything that shows how to load it into the phone

black981502 said:
I still didnt find anything that shows how to load it into the phone
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usually the cab, or zip, and instructions would be in Post #1 of the thread. U can also ask the question in that thread if u can't find something...

Luckysc
Count your blessing that u have not been screamed and cursed on already. Not saying you deserve it, just the way it is, they have a point though this forum is more for people willing to put in the time to read. This forum is not for those who come here to set up and go its more for people looking for like...a hobby.
I know a little and will be happy to answer any quick question for you.
If this is not everyone's view or opinion or if I have offended someone I apologize in advance.

black981502 said:
I still didnt find anything that shows how to load it into the phone
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Just copy the file to your device or storage card, and click it from there! This is just basics of WM, but i remember feeling the same way when i first got a WM device!

Ok thanks.....I appreciate the answer instead of the smart ass remarks. Not everyone here just comes n asks questions without looking

loking for a fully packed rom

it is not my intention to wast space or irritate people i have searche and searched 1. just to let you know i cant get the ppckitchen cause i got kicked out because of a misunderstanding with one of there (gods) 2. some of the kitchens here are cool but dont support gps and rev-a. so my question is can some one help me with this problem, am willing to donate for a custom rom or can some one help me find a fully packed rom,i have sprint service the only one i have ever found that is fully packed was nexvision's hulk rom, does anyone know of a rom like that and is available,please help, oh yeah i have searched and if you have somthing to say about searching at least tell me where to look with details instead of just telling me to do more searchin please, tha\nk you for any help just to let anyone thinking i want a free ride without out doing any work, that is not my intention i am very willing to learn and to be patient in the process i would just appreciate anyone refering me to certain info to keep in mind that i dont always understand the language and that just because there is a definition to certain terms and meaning's i dont always get the meaning so anyone giving me info please have patience with me on alot how things are explained, thank you

Personally, I use a "Clean" ROM to help with storage space and other reasons. Some ROMs have things you may not want or need, and apps are always updated, so no sense in having two of the same thing. Plus it gives you more room for customization.

pierre1321 said:
it is not my intention to wast space or irritate people i have searche and searched 1. just to let you know i cant get the ppckitchen cause i got kicked out because of a misunderstanding with one of there (gods)
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lol - misunderstanding about what?
2. some of the kitchens here are cool but dont support gps and rev-a. so my question is can some one help me with this problem, am willing to donate for a custom rom or can some one help me find a fully packed rom,i have sprint service the only one i have ever found that is fully packed was nexvision's hulk rom, does anyone know of a rom like that and is available,please help, oh yeah i have searched and if you have somthing to say about searching at least tell me where to look with details instead of just telling me to do more searchin please, tha\nk you for any help
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Nex's hulk rom is the only fully packed one that I know of. Since you've obviously found it, why are you looking for something else?

gguruusa said:
lol - misunderstanding about what?
Nex's hulk rom is the only fully packed one that I know of. Since you've obviously found it, why are you looking for something else?
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r u being rude i only ask cause u say i obviously, my post states that i am not allowed into the kitchen 1. the only link to that rom is in the kitchen 2. before i got kicked out when i tried to link to it it was dead and that is why i am looking for somthing else and 3. i stated that i was looking for help not more questions and that is not intended to be rude i just mean if you cant help me with any info why r u replying to my thread, just curious

TheChampJT said:
Personally, I use a "Clean" ROM to help with storage space and other reasons. Some ROMs have things you may not want or need, and apps are always updated, so no sense in having two of the same thing. Plus it gives you more room for customization.
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i would like to cook my own rom but i cant ever get anyone to give me details in lamens terms, im not slow its just that i see things in a physical form better than verbally or written and all i keep getting are links to the same info or when i give details on what i need help with they say that i dont tell them what i am looking for but some times they only read part of my thread or i dont know how to talk the language so i end up searching for custom roms, and i would start off with a clean one but it seems i can never remember the name of the apps or games that i want to put in them and the other thing is some people are able to pack in more stuff on there roms than others and they still run smooth and whe i add thing on a clean rom i can only get about a third or half of what they get in there roms before i run out of useable memory and to keep it running smooth

I tried cooking my own ROM, but in the end went to OMJ's ROM. I spent about 2 months trying to cook a ROM I liked and worked well. But, it is VERY time consuming, and you'll end up constantly flashing to fix something, add a tweak or 2, or add the newest package. Most of the "tutorials" for cooking can be vague, since there are far too many things involved, depending on what it is your planning to do. But, I would suggest finding one that fits you best and leaving it to the pro's. I'm not trying to say you can't do this, but the only real way to find your answers, is through simple trial & error.

well CHAMP can you lend me yer knowledge and lead me to a stable rom thats clean and maybe has touchflo and manilla2d and a good place to find the worlds biggest post for cab files so i can start my trial and error preferably with gps and rev-a,and i have heard of a mention somewhere about a manilla3d but havnt really been able to find any info on it maybe you could help even though i will continue to look myself, oh yeah a rom that still has a crap load of memory i think i saw one that had up to 160 or 170 of storage memory but cant remember where i saw it , thanks

my advice is to cook with vetvitos kitchen he has the some of the latest releases and has a simple kitchen to use that includes touchflo and manilla 2d and the thread is in this very section.

{SBR}_L3GION said:
my advice is to cook with vetvitos kitchen he has the some of the latest releases and has a simple kitchen to use that includes touchflo and manilla 2d and the thread is in this very section.
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i did try his kitchen i kept on getting lots of errors in the part after you make the selections and it starts processing what i selected but i couldn't fix all of them so i left it alone

did you try nexvisions manilla rom. its packed and is very good. I know you had an issue with him in the irc chat but his roms are good and im sure it was just a misunderstanding. here is a link to his rom thread http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=31344
hope this helps.

Polargoat said:
did you try nexvisions manilla rom. its packed and is very good. I know you had an issue with him in the irc chat but his roms are good and im sure it was just a misunderstanding. here is a link to his rom thread http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=31344
hope this helps.
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thanks but when i say ****d out i mean no matter what link i use the ppckitchen wont even load, wich means i am blocked unless i use a foreign computer, but thanks anyway, and yes i have posted in that thread and asked him to let me back in and there is no response at all

pierre1321 said:
r u being rude i only ask cause u say i obviously, my post states that i am not allowed into the kitchen 1. the only link to that rom is in the kitchen 2. before i got kicked out when i tried to link to it it was dead and that is why i am looking for somthing else and 3. i stated that i was looking for help not more questions and that is not intended to be rude i just mean if you cant help me with any info why r u replying to my thread, just curious
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I was trying to help you. I don't know what the problem between you and Nex is, but if you don't state what happened, I sure can't help you there.
You don't need the kitchen to flash a ROM, so your reasoning is flawed. You did not state the link you found was dead...I naturally assumed you downloaded it and were now on a quest for similar feature packed roms.
Finally, like I said, there aren't any other ROMs like Nex's Hulk ROM. You can stop looking for something so packed - you won't find anything.

pierre1321 said:
thanks but when i say ****d out i mean no matter what link i use the ppckitchen wont even load, wich means i am blocked unless i use a foreign computer
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I can't understand what you are trying to say. What do you mean when you say "no matter what link I use the ppckitchen wont even load". Use small words, go slow, and preferably use pictures.

ok im back from my vacation and have been diong som searching, can someone teach me how to make a fully packed rom and i mean packed and that will be stable and dont expect it to be super fast but atleast not slow or slugish anyone out there up to help me

LOL.
He has no idea what he is talking about. Nex ROM are just a *.nbh file.
He is trying to flash it with nothing other than the nbh file. Obviously it didnt work. LOL
Until he learn how to read what people tells him he wont get it.
gguruusa said:
I was trying to help you. I don't know what the problem between you and Nex is, but if you don't state what happened, I sure can't help you there.
You don't need the kitchen to flash a ROM, so your reasoning is flawed. You did not state the link you found was dead...I naturally assumed you downloaded it and were now on a quest for similar feature packed roms.
Finally, like I said, there aren't any other ROMs like Nex's Hulk ROM. You can stop looking for something so packed - you won't find anything.
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Honestly no one is going tot take the time to teach you how to make a ROM, you're gonna have to learn yourself through trial and error or else you need to try a ROM that someone else has made...There are plenty of these out there fully packed as well as clean with a clean ROM you can dl your own programs all you want and do the things that you would like to do to the ROM...Full ROM's are pretty packed and you can still add all the things that you would like...But ROM cooking will have o be something that you need to learn on your own by reading tutorials such as reading this :http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=25529
this thread will teach you how to customize a ROM that is already built add/remove all thanks goes to " rstoyguy "
So give it a shot.

SL said:
LOL.
He has no idea what he is talking about. Nex ROM are just a *.nbh file.
He is trying to flash it with nothing other than the nbh file. Obviously it didnt work. LOL
Until he learn how to read what people tells him he wont get it.
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i have know idea what you are talking about, because of course you cant flash a .nbh file by itself so yeah why would it work, and until i learn how to read what people tell me, well excuse me i didnt realize some people were born with this knowledge right out of the womb, i on the other hand am not so lucky so when im learning somthing new i have to ask people to have time and patience with me so that i can begin to understand and then learn to take some of these steps on my own, so if you have nothing positive to give i would appreciate it if you would let me continue my studies with someone who is willing to help

hooover said:
Honestly no one is going tot take the time to teach you how to make a ROM, you're gonna have to learn yourself through trial and error or else you need to try a ROM that someone else has made...There are plenty of these out there fully packed as well as clean with a clean ROM you can dl your own programs all you want and do the things that you would like to do to the ROM...Full ROM's are pretty packed and you can still add all the things that you would like...But ROM cooking will have o be something that you need to learn on your own by reading tutorials such as reading this :http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=25529
this thread will teach you how to customize a ROM that is already built add/remove all thanks goes to " rstoyguy "
So give it a shot.
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yeah i have seen that and am still learning, but i may have stated myself wrong, cause after searching and asking alot i realize that time is very precious and little, i am just looking for someone to help me with steps involved in some of these processes cause alot of the tutorials can be kind of vauge and its not just me even some of the more advanced people have found this to be true also, they will sometimes just sometime jump to certain parts without saying how to get there or mention crtain things with out being more detailed and when i try to search to find out i cant find it, so i end up asking questions that people say that are out there and to search but alot of the time cant get someone to poiunt me into the right dirction except to where tutorials are and then say ive been there and then some one who knows what they are doing will post somthing and my need for help gets lost in the thread, but thank you for at least replying with somthing positive instead of trying to make me look like a tard

I think what they are trying to say is you need to spend more time reading and learning. In the mean time I would try out OMJ's rom as it has m2d, is fairly packed and is very stable imo.. but there are many other VERY good roms out there I just happen to prefer OMJ's for what I use my ppc for.
It takes a long time to learn all this stuff, I joined here on 2/26/08 and I only have two posts.. I joined ppcgeeks about the same time and I have about 100 posts.. I wish I could contribute more and help out but my schedule doesnt allow me to get too involved unfortunately. Although in that time (almost a YEAR) Ive learned how to build a rom with the ppckitchen kitchen and a ton of other stuff that I never knew you could do with a ppc..lol
It says you just joined in september and im not bashing you in anyway but heck flash one of the roms that one of these skilled chefs made and enjoy your phone for now while you take the time to learn..

Re-read your post again and you will realiase why you are such an idiot and no wonder nex and others just ignore you. You are nothing but arrogant and stupid. People give you advise and you just run right by without reading and then complain why people dont help you at ppcgeeks because you give the same kind of attitude you just give me. People keep teaching you how to flash his rom but you just keep ignoring them and complaining why it cannot be flashed instead of just listening. Learn to be humble. Learn to read and follow instructions. 'nuff said
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i have know idea what you are talking about, because of course you cant flash a .nbh file by itself so yeah why would it work, and until i learn how to read what people tell me, well excuse me i didnt realize some people were born with this knowledge right out of the womb, i on the other hand am not so lucky so when im learning somthing new i have to ask people to have time and patience with me so that i can begin to understand and then learn to take some of these steps on my own, so if you have nothing positive to give i would appreciate it if you would let me continue my studies with someone who is willing to help
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Rooting?

Could anyone point me to the correct tutorial to root your HTC Touch Pro 2 ?
I'v been reading up on the android builds past few days. I'm totally new to this.
I got android to work with the project android build. And i want to use Whatsapp.
But it won't let me open Whatsapp. 3rd party task manager is killing it. So i guess its ATK ? But i can't just uninstall it trough settings>applications etc. Same trough android market. I read somewhere you'd have to root it then. But i don't know how. Any help would be appreciated alot !!!.
If i'm not suppose to post this, because i haven't looked or w/e, fine delete this. But i did look. And if been reading alot of topics and iv seen alot of flaming just because of asking a question. might have been a stupid one, but still, people just want some help. Why not help out ? We all start somewhere. And im starting right here. haha.
Oh and if im totally off map by saying rooting, let me know how i can get whatsapp to work. Iv seen it works for others so im just waiting to fix mine. haha.
Anyway, great job on the forum and great builds for TP2.
Peace,
from the spacestronaut.

It is already rooted. Next time spend some time reading

Spacestronaut said:
Could anyone point me to the correct tutorial to root your HTC Touch Pro 2 ?
I'v been reading up on the android builds past few days. I'm totally new to this.
I got android to work with the project android build. And i want to use Whatsapp.
But it won't let me open Whatsapp. 3rd party task manager is killing it. So i guess its ATK ? But i can't just uninstall it trough settings>applications etc. Same trough android market. I read somewhere you'd have to root it then. But i don't know how. Any help would be appreciated alot !!!.
If i'm not suppose to post this, because i haven't looked or w/e, fine delete this. But i did look. And if been reading alot of topics and iv seen alot of flaming just because of asking a question. might have been a stupid one, but still, people just want some help. Why not help out ? We all start somewhere. And im starting right here. haha.
Oh and if im totally off map by saying rooting, let me know how i can get whatsapp to work. Iv seen it works for others so im just waiting to fix mine. haha.
Anyway, great job on the forum and great builds for TP2.
Peace,
from the spacestronaut.
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well you didnt search enough nor read enough...and i started by reading and searching (only 2 posts in first year as member)

Like i said before, i did search the past few days, and i did read, but its not like theres a topic out there called "TP2 rooting". Or "how to get rid of preinstalled apps". So cool it. And help me out. That would be greatly appreciated it. i knew i shouldn't expect a mature response...

Spacestronaut said:
Like i said before, i did search the past few days, and i did read, but its not like theres a topic out there called "TP2 rooting". Or "how to get rid of preinstalled apps". So cool it. And help me out. That would be greatly appreciated it. i knew i shouldn't expect a mature response...
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Well that's the problem, XDAndroid is rooted - but don't expect every app that works on native Android phones to work on these - this isn't exactly an approved or sanctioned port.

arrrghhh said:
Well that's the problem, XDAndroid is rooted - but don't expect every app that works on native Android phones to work on these - this isn't exactly an approved or sanctioned port.
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im not using the XDandroid build, im using the project android build. And i read somewhere in order for whatsapp to be working you need to get rid of ATK by rooting your phone and then get rid of the app (ATK). So, some are saying it should be rooted. And it's not like no one is running whatsapp on a HTC android mod. it should be working. but i can't seem to get rid of ATK. iv read other could just get rid of it trough settings>applications but i can only delete the updates. Please some real anwsers instead of saying things i allready know.

Hey,
first of all welcome to the xda-developers forum...
like u and i guess everyone i hate answers like some of the ones you got..
i think a froum is made to ask questiuons however that might be about...
and it took me month back in my old htc kaiser days to get the whole android thing.
so when you want to install apps that are not from the store then u have to check one checkbox first.
ull find it under settings->applications-> and there should be a checkbox that says unsigned apps or untrusted apps...something like that.
normally this page should pop up if u click on a app that u have on the sd card...
i hope that is what u asked for...
and the phone is already rooted whatever build u are using
and if u have any questions but dont want to ask them in the forum cuz u might think that u get answers that dont suit ure question just pm me
nick

the-nj said:
Hey,
first of all welcome to the xda-developers forum...
like u and i guess everyone i hate answers like some of the ones you got..
i think a froum is made to ask questiuons however that might be about...
and it took me month back in my old htc kaiser days to get the whole android thing.
so when you want to install apps that are not from the store then u have to check one checkbox first.
ull find it under settings->applications-> and there should be a checkbox that says unsigned apps or untrusted apps...something like that.
normally this page should pop up if u click on a app that u have on the sd card...
i hope that is what u asked for...
and the phone is already rooted whatever build u are using
and if u have any questions but dont want to ask them in the forum cuz u might think that u get answers that dont suit ure question just pm me
nick
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Hi, i appreciate your response. Thanks alot.
So it's allready rooted. Ok cool. Let me explain. I want to use Whatsapp. But when i open it, i get the 3rd party task manager is blocking it. And im guessing its the ATK. but i can't get rid of it. I know how to install unsigned and untrusted apps. But now i want to get rid of it. haha. Anyway, i shoot you a message maybe tomorrow to explain more i guess. A mod can close this, as i proberly won't get a straight answers anyway.

Spacestronaut said:
im not using the XDandroid build, im using the project android build. And i read somewhere in order for whatsapp to be working you need to get rid of ATK by rooting your phone and then get rid of the app (ATK). So, some are saying it should be rooted. And it's not like no one is running whatsapp on a HTC android mod. it should be working. but i can't seem to get rid of ATK. iv read other could just get rid of it trough settings>applications but i can only delete the updates. Please some real anwsers instead of saying things i allready know.
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Do you even know what you're talking about? ATK hasn't been included in any builds for a while, and what do you mean you're not using XDAndroid you're using the "project android build" - this makes me think you have NO clue what you're talking about. Please, prove me wrong.

arrrghhh said:
Do you even know what you're talking about? ATK hasn't been included in any builds for a while, and what do you mean you're not using XDAndroid you're using the "project android build" - this makes me think you have NO clue what you're talking about. Please, prove me wrong.
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Your right, i don't know, that's why im asking... smh at the ignorance at this forum.

hey,
ok now i got what ure asking...
so then it is important what method u are using? do you have a system.ext2 file that you load with haret?
or do you have a partioned sd card with the android system on a ext2 partition.
when you have the whole system in a system.ext2 file you would need to unpack it, delete the .apk of the app, and then pack it into a .ext2 file again...
when you have the second method that just browse into the folder system/apps/ and delete the file...
that should work for every normal app but it is not easy to do it...

Spacestronaut said:
Your right, i don't know, that's why im asking... smh at the ignorance at this forum.
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Well you certainly answered my questions with a confidence only stupidity can be responsible for.
FYI, there's a difference between ignorance & stupidity. Ignorant people just don't know. Stupid people know, but are willingly ignorant. You have all the information available to, yet you insist on being ignorant.
It's OK to ask questions - but if it has been answered before, answering the same questions over and over again gets old. So some of us will respond a little less amicably than others - 9 times out of 10, this was because the OP didn't do their due diligence.

the-nj said:
hey,
ok now i got what ure asking...
so then it is important what method u are using? do you have a system.ext2 file that you load with haret?
or do you have a partioned sd card with the android system on a ext2 partition.
when you have the whole system in a system.ext2 file you would need to unpack it, delete the .apk of the app, and then pack it into a .ext2 file again...
when you have the second method that just browse into the folder system/apps/ and delete the file...
that should work for every normal app but it is not easy to do it...
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I just sent you a pm. i don't load anything, i start winmo, open up, project android, hit boot, android starts... that's all i do. i don't have a system.ext2 file on my sd. if this method is "wrong" or dated, let me know where to get the newest build. seems like that is the problem ?

hm...so you have to have some files that are behind that...
and i would think that you have a system.ext2 file somewhere...
should be in the andboot folder on your sd card.
but in builds that are used now here that task manager you want to get rid of isnt used anymore...so i would suggest just try the xdandroid build and kernels or the neopeek version which is very fast and you have all files on a spare partition on your sd card.
if you want to get started with the neopeek build just check neopeek.com and then the forum. there are all the build he has developed and instructions how to install. if u have any questions about that just let me know...
i guess art your point it would be the easiest to switch to another build
nick

arrrghhh said:
Well you certainly answered my questions with a confidence only stupidity can be responsible for.
FYI, there's a difference between ignorance & stupidity. Ignorant people just don't know. Stupid people know, but are willingly ignorant. You have all the information available to, yet you insist on being ignorant.
It's OK to ask questions - but if it has been answered before, answering the same questions over and over again gets old. So some of us will respond a little less amicably than others - 9 times out of 10, this was because the OP didn't do their due diligence.
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Listen, i understand your point of view. Iv been reading up on alot of threads in the Touch Pro 2 section. And i saw alot of normal questions being asked. And there was alot of flaming just because of those questions. That's disrespect in my opinion. Because you guys now, just point a newb to the right place. I mean it's not that hard... or is it ? Believe i do understand it though. But it doesnt hurt to be a bit more helpfull. Im willing to learn. I signed up because i wanted to participate and learn. That might not have been in my OP but im sure you understand by now, i do want to learn. And to be honest, alot of those frequently asked questions aren't in the provided tutorials or aren't easy findable. Wich makes it totally legit to ask a question. Forgive me for not reading 1000 pages of a thread. I only wanted a quick response to my question. A url to the right place to continue to search for a fix. and to learn. not to piss you guys off. Because it's allready been done about a million times. Again, i do understand your attitude, but give a new guy a chance to learn.

the-nj said:
hm...so you have to have some files that are behind that...
and i would think that you have a system.ext2 file somewhere...
should be in the andboot folder on your sd card.
but in builds that are used now here that task manager you want to get rid of isnt used anymore...so i would suggest just try the xdandroid build and kernels or the neopeek version which is very fast and you have all files on a spare partition on your sd card.
if you want to get started with the neopeek build just check neopeek.com and then the forum. there are all the build he has developed and instructions how to install. if u have any questions about that just let me know...
i guess art your point it would be the easiest to switch to another build
nick
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Thanks nick, you the man

I guess if your whole issue is ATK, then just use a newer build. I don't think ATK has been included in any of the 2.2 builds, but it hasn't been in a build for a while. So I'm guessing your build is old if you still have ATK on there.

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Listen, i understand your point of view. Iv been reading up on alot of threads in the Touch Pro 2 section. And i saw alot of normal questions being asked. And there was alot of flaming just because of those questions. That's disrespect in my opinion. Because you guys now, just point a newb to the right place. I mean it's not that hard... or is it ? Believe i do understand it though. But it doesnt hurt to be a bit more helpfull. Im willing to learn. I signed up because i wanted to participate and learn. That might not have been in my OP but im sure you understand by now, i do want to learn. And to be honest, alot of those frequently asked questions aren't in the provided tutorials or aren't easy findable. Wich makes it totally legit to ask a question. Forgive me for not reading 1000 pages of a thread. I only wanted a quick response to my question. A url to the right place to continue to search for a fix. and to learn. not to piss you guys off. Because it's allready been done about a million times. Again, i do understand your attitude, but give a new guy a chance to learn.
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its a double-edged sword this kinda thing, because its easy for both sides it is just tedious and requires an abnormal amount of patience which some of us (like myself) have little of to begin with
also there are times, like this, that a noob cant simply be pointed in the right direction
all that said i agree with nick, just use xdandroid for tp2 especially since that is what the people around here are most accustomed to

So I am new with the Android world.
I got Blazn up and running, but that's all where I am at lol.
So i see all those extra information that I am not knowledgeable about (not ignorant so people don't start flaming) , so I am going to call myself a NOOB when it comes to Android and learning bit by bit everyday.
So long story short, You guys got WhatsApp up and running properly?
Because I heard back in the 2.1 eclair , WhatsApp was not working correctly.
If working, what alterations have you guys done to make it run (if any needed).

bteljuice said:
So I am new with the Android world.
I got Blazn up and running, but that's all where I am at lol.
So i see all those extra information that I am not knowledgeable about (not ignorant so people don't start flaming) , so I am going to call myself a NOOB when it comes to Android and learning bit by bit everyday.
So long story short, You guys got WhatsApp up and running properly?
Because I heard back in the 2.1 eclair , WhatsApp was not working correctly.
If working, what alterations have you guys done to make it run (if any needed).
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Ok, after a quick google search I see what it is... why not just use Google Voice? Seems like a much better alternative IMHO.

[Q] HTC TyTN II does'nt boot with Android

Hi, I have read and follow al the steps in the thread "How to replace Windows Mobile with Android (Guide)", including the step by step "HowToInstallWithAtoolsNand" in SourceForge.net but I'm sure I'm doing something wrong.
I have my TyTN II with 3.34 HardSPL and the latest Radio ROM that I use to load alll the Windows ROM without any problem. But when I flash my ROM with and Android build what it happens is that afterward it installs it, when the device is booting it appears a message saying "Intall module for this kernel" and the boot process stops there.
Y tried putting inside /andboot folder directly the "androidinstall.tar" that I downloaded from the thread's build (for example the "Incubus26Jc's Super E Cmod 5.0.8 T4 Beta 3". Also I tried to open that "androidinstall.tar" in atools, mix it with 2.6.32 modules and generating a new androidinstall.tar and putting it together with install-seq.sh inside /andboot following all the steps explained in "HowToInstallWithAtoolsNand" but always happens the same.
Can anybody know what could be happening?
Thanks in advanced.
Guido.

Common problem answered here 10.000 times... just try to search...
Perhaps you need http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=848921

To start, use a newer build. Then you won't need any updates. The latest builds from thoughtless kyle,clemsyn,scoot and I all have the necessary fix needed. If you want Cyanogen Mod then use scoot or mine. Our builds are based on CM 6.1 which is much newer with more features.

When you participate in a forum, you always have the posibibility to not replying or do it. If you are gonna do it, try to reply something clever. Nobody is putting a gun against your head to reply. If you don't feel like replying, just don't do it.
I have a problem, I do a quick search and if I don't find what I'm looking for, I just open a new thread. I don't have all my life to look for the answer of the problem. If you like to spend all your time indise this forum, go ahead, nobody is gonna stop you. I don't like to do it. I look for answers, no foolishness.

guido_7701 said:
When you participate in a forum, you always have the posibibility to not replying or do it. If you are gonna do it, try to reply something clever. Nobody is putting a gun against your head to reply. If you don't feel like replying, just don't do it.
I have a problem, I do a quick search and if I don't find what I'm looking for, I just open a new thread. I don't have all my life to look for the answer of the problem. If you like to spend all your time indese this forum, go ahead, nobody is gonna stop you. I don't like to do it. I look for answers, no foolishness.
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You you get all your answers from quick searches, you start to become lazy and unable to search properly. This is a BB, where all forums, threads, and posts are permanent. Available always. They are, so that others can come, read, SEARCH, and if, and only if they don't find the answer, open a thread.
Now, if we didn't wanted this... perhaps the dev's would have opened a chatroom on IRC and we could all be there to answer THE SAME ANSWERS over and over again.
Oh by the way, please explain how can you participate in a forum... without ever replying ? And he did answer something... as you putted it yourself... clever.

Listen...why don't you spend your time answering my question instead of bla bla bla about forum uses.
Do you like to spend all your time making searches, searches, searches and more searches?? Go ahead...Let others do what they want. If you don't agree, just keep your mouth closed and go to another thread more important than mine.

guido_7701 said:
Listen...why don't you spend your time answering my question instead of bla bla bla about forum uses.
Do you like to spend all your time making searches, searches, searches and more searches?? Go ahead...Let others do what they want. If you don't agree, just keep your mouth closed and go to another thread more important than mine.
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You don't like to read
Your question has already been answered
I like to solve the problems on my own
If i can't, i like to read. I don't want to solve it, i want to understand it
This is XDA devs. We develop, and help to develop and test. You wan't answers ? Call microsoft, htc, or whatever.
this is NOT your support forum. No one, owes you nothing here, except for respect.
Respect, you showed NO ONE when you don't even try to read the posts others have put here for you.
Now, stop being like that, go to the sugested thread, and learn how to fix your problem and to have some humility and respect.

daedric said:
You don't like to read
Your question has already been answered
I like to solve the problems on my own
If i can't, i like to read. I don't want to solve it, i want to understand it
This is XDA devs. We develop, and help to develop and test. You wan't answers ? Call microsoft, htc, or whatever.
this is NOT your support forum. No one, owes you nothing here, except for respect.
Respect, you showed NO ONE when you don't even try to read the posts others have put here for you.
Now, stop being like that, go to the sugested thread, and learn how to fix your problem and to have some humility and respect.
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I understand why your "thanksmeter" is in cero.
Please...shut up and don't write any more in this thread...From now you are not allow to write a word in this thread.
Go to c++ forums if you like to develop.

guido_7701 said:
I understand why your "thanksmeter" is in cero.
Please...shut up and don't write any more in this thread...From now you are not allow to write a word in this thread.
Go to c++ forums if you like to develop.
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Well... if a mod/admin forbids me, i will. You have no authority here.
As for the thanks meter, i have no comments.

lol now its not zero.

aceoyame said:
lol now its not zero.
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cause that is what the real community is ment to be or not?

So this guy thinks devs are forced to solve his problem? Have some selfesteem and try to solve it by urself, even my toddler could do it... Im starting to realize one of my college proffesors is right.... Windows stupifies people! (look at win7 logo: your PC simplified) Its like a black box when you cant see whats going on inside, you only have to now the input and output part of the system, ubuntu in the other hand forces users to learn some basic commands... the world would be a better place to live if we all had linux on our computers...

I just love it when people think that every site that offers something is required to offer support.
Not true, infact in the real world almost EVERY company in the U.S. of A does NOT have their own support, in fact it comes from 3rd party.
Same concept here, infact on this site, the userbase is filled with hardware tinkerers, software programmers, developers, IT professionals, etc, etc. They provide this stuff to you at no cost, and without warranty, meaning NO support unless it's something on their end (ex. programming error, etc), and then they provide fixes, which in case they did provide a fix in terms of a update package for android to fix the modules error.
I was the unfortunate one to run into this problem as well, and tried frantically to search for a reason why until I made a post explaining I couldn't find the source of the problem, and then they pointed me in the right direction and I went from there. Granted I ran into a second problem of my device running out of memory trying to apply the update, but that was an entirely un-related issue that I solved myself.
I myself am a hardware tinkerer, I love to break things, then fix them. I repair PCs, Laptops, hell even TVs in my spare time.
In retrospec. Things don't always work 100%, but for 95% of the people here, they go out of their way to try and fix it themselves and solve it themselves.
Everyone's right, there is a search button on these forums, and it takes probably 2 clicks to run a search, very simpl..... oh wait, Windows 7 can do it in 1 click, so I'm guessing 2 clicks is too complicated for you....