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Hello everyone,
I am currently an Atrix 4G user and have the phone running on CM7. It is running silky smooth, super fast and has no lags whatsoever. Now I am really interested in getting the Nitro HD but from what I have been experiencing while playing around with in the store is that the UI seems to lag/stutter every now and then. At times, it even takes a second or two to react and change screens. I'm just worried that I will be disappointed with its performance and being stuck with it for at least a year.
Anybody is having these stutter/lag issues on their phones or is just this test phone at the store that's crappy?
I have one and unfortunately it does annoying little lags and hang ups all over the place. I even rooted, removed all bloat have very little running and it will still lag. the hardware is so fantastic, I'm just praying we get some developer support cause this hardware deserves better !
fkabibil said:
I have one and unfortunately it does annoying little lags and hang ups all over the place. I even rooted, removed all bloat have very little running and it will still lag. the hardware is so fantastic, I'm just praying we get some developer support cause this hardware deserves better !
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have u tried a different launcher?? The one that comes stock sucks.
Turning off animations under display settings seems to help a little
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I also experience lag on this phone. Have rooted and removed bloatware and running a different launcher. I also hope there will be developer support for this phone a my Inspire with virtuous ROM is smoother than this phone right now.
dalamchops said:
have u tried a different launcher?? The one that comes stock sucks.
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Yes, currently using ADW EX. Have also tried Launcher Pro+ and Go Launcher. It lags with everything. No matter what browser i use for example, it always lags and hangs on the back button or scrolling half way through a page it will stall for a second then kick in.
was there ever a CM7 release for any of the LG phones of the same family as the Nitro?? if there was, then it shouldn't be too difficult for them to create one for this phone. I think other than the resolution stressing the phone, I also think it's just bad coding on LG's part.
do a privacy > factory data reset
and the lags will be gone!
netnerd said:
do a privacy > factory data reset
and the lags will be gone!
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i agree. i also did a hard reset as well. i am very impressed with the performance of this phone.
I rooted the phone, did a hard reset, shut off unwanted AT&T and LG bloat processes and switched launcher to ADW. I also switched my main browser to Opera... Now running very smoothly!
Edit: guys don't confuse a factory reset vs. a hard reset. Factory rest will only wipe your personal data and you access this through the settings menu. A hard reset restores the phone and is started by holding the volume down, home and power keys while the phone is off.
Now its getting interesting, I'm almost assured to upgrade to it. Would anybody mind uploading a short video just to show how the lag is gone pls?
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aquariuz23 said:
Now its getting interesting, I'm almost assured to upgrade to it. Would anybody mind uploading a short video just to show how the lag is gone pls?
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Sure - I made a quick video about the results of my attempts to optimize the phone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWA68pHzhMo&feature=youtu.be
(Sorry couldn't fig. out how to embed vid). All the steps I took to get this phone working to this point can be found here. The other thing I did not mentioned on that post is that I no longer use Go Launcher and now use ADW since it performs better.
What Widgets you using I must say it looks legit the way you have set up.
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when i did the hard reset it deleted the HD pictures and video that came pre-installed, fyi.
also, i've decided there's no reason for me to root mine, this thing is smooth as silk. very nice device.
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Sure - I made a quick video about the results of my attempts to optimize the phone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWA68pHzhMo&feature=youtu.be
(Sorry couldn't fig. out how to embed vid). All the steps I took to get this phone working to this point can be found here. The other thing I did not mentioned on that post is that I no longer use Go Launcher and now use ADW since it performs better.
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Has the battery life improved significantly after all those changes?
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Has the battery life improved significantly after all those changes?
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Yes, it definitely doesn't burn through 10-15%/hr now. I used to take it off the charger around 7:30am and I'd come home around 7 to -10%. Now I come home w/some medium usage and I'll still at least have 30-40%.
scott0 said:
when i did the hard reset it deleted the HD pictures and video that came pre-installed, fyi.
also, i've decided there's no reason for me to root mine, this thing is smooth as silk. very nice device.
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Scott,
I would like to know your experience with the phone. It had lots of lag in the corp store, guess you had the same lag when you got it as well? What have you done besides a hard reset? You using stock browser? How is the battery life and have you done anything to improve it?
Everyone,
I tested the Nitro and it had lag in the corp store. It was very noticeable mainly when you pinch and zoom in/out of graphics heavy websites. I really want to like this phone but the battery life and lagging kill this thing. I'm looking for a phone and right now I am leaning towards the samsung skyrocket as it has none of these problems and has great dev support. No 720p though. However, I loaded up a 1080p video on youtube and compared the two phones side by side but did not see that much difference. I was expecting to be blown away. I don't know if it was is my eyes or if the screen is just too small to make a big difference.
I wouldn't want to root the phone. However, I don't mind doing a hard and factory reset or other things as long as I can do it without rooting. Seems like some are having success by doing just factory and hard resets.
I'd like to know some of the experiences of other Nitro users before making making my decision.
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I would like to know your experience with the phone. It had lots of lag in the corp store, guess you had the same lag when you got it as well? What have you done besides a hard reset? You using stock browser? How is the battery life and have you done anything to improve it?
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I I didn't really have any lag with the phone. There was some lag at first. From the homepage to the apt page. I am speaking this in fact. its doing pretty good interpreting my words. I deleted the at&t bloatware that could be deleted. I did a hard factory reset. I installed go launcher and pro amP. Antutu attached. Fantastic song gorgeous screen Still a valuating battery seems to drains quickly. I'm very happy With this phone
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Yes, it definitely doesn't burn through 10-15%/hr now. I used to take it off the charger around 7:30am and I'd come home around 7 to -10%. Now I come home w/some medium usage and I'll still at least have 30-40%.
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That's great! Did you do a quadrant benchmark after your optimizations? Also, while browsing graphic-heavy sites with Opera, do you experience lag while pinch zooming?
did a factory reset.... dramatic difference in how smooth it is now.
Hello there, first time i write here but been reading a lot!
First, you need to know I own a galaxy s2 s3 s4 (all rooted) and my good friend has a note 3.
Also played a lot with nexus10 and the first galaxy note 10.1
I waited so long to buy the "perfect" tablet. Ipad is out of question even tho we know they are awesome tablet, i am a system administrator and i need Android.
So when i heard about the new note 10.1 2014, i was very existed because i REALLY like my s4 and my friend's note 3.
And i thought the s pen was awesome for a tablet (seeing my kid having fun drawing on their own picture is a +).
Well i convicted my girlfriend we need this, i started reading a lot of reviews and decided to buy because reviews are all saying the tablet was the best to compete vs the ipad.
I bought it brand new on eBay because there was no place i can buy it in Canada.
As soon as i received it, i found it run so damn slow. .. WAY slower than my s4.
I can live with the short battery life, that's not a big deal even tho the 2x quad core was supposed to help that (running on 1.3 while on hold to save battery).
Looks like it is always running on that 1.3ghz cpu now.
I did a factory default reset. .. Then a hard reset, nothing helped.
Runs great Sometimes, but sometimes I am note even able to browse picture on the default gallery. Still no apps installed! !!
My friend with the note 3 came here last night and was amazed to see how the screen has a bad responds to finger but very good with the pen. Also how it freezes and lags.
Now... is it only MY galaxy note ?
Should i send it to Samsung and hope it is going to be OK when i receive it back ?
Is it normal and should be all fixed with kit kat update ?
Or normal... They missed it so i should just throw it away ? If so... What else should i get ?
I very like the aspect. The home/menu/back buttons, the o/s (touch wiz), the nexus 10 was not that great even with kit kat, but runs so much faster.
I don't know what to do, i want a tablet with the s pen, but the hold note 3 is running smoother than my 2014 edition! !!
I guess i need help here !
And as i bought the item from usa eBay, I'll have to pay for the shipping to Samsung if i send them my tablet for repair !
Thank you very much for your help and advice !
Martin L.
Sure you have a problem, ignoring some performance stuff the device is very fast and have leading scores in benchmark
If you can, upload your benchmark scores
SherifMedhat said:
Sure you have a problem, ignoring some performance stuff the device is very fast and have leading scores in benchmark
If you can, upload your benchmark scores
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It all seams to be random. .. Now the gallery works perfectly.
Really looks to be a problem switching from a cpu to the other and stays on the 1.3
Right now, while typing this, i got an error saying the gallery has stopped working! !
Any idea which benchmark i should use ?
See attached is the print screen of a benchmark. .. Perfect score, exactly what i was expecting from this tablet.
But it definitively does not feel like it!
genius312 said:
See attached is the print screen of a benchmark. .. Perfect score, exactly what i was expecting from this tablet.
But it definitively does not feel like it!
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What firmware version is installed on your new Note 2014?
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genius312 said:
Runs great Sometimes, but sometimes I am note even able to browse picture on the default gallery. Still no apps installed! !!
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I have no problems with the gallery app. Before I bought the Note, I had the Xperia Tablet Z for a short time and it was much slower in the Gallery app. My JPEGs usually are about 10 MByte each and browsing hundreds of them works very well on the Note.
Where do i find the firmware ?
Model Number is sm-p600
Android 4.3
Kernel 3.4.39-204073
version jss15j.p600ueubmk1
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Where do i find the firmware?
version jss15j.p600ueub-----mk1
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You are on MK1 which is the latest in US as far as I'm aware.
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You have the current firmware, so that is not the issue. It is possible that you have a corrupted file somewhere that is causing a problem for an app.
To check this:
- Do have an SD card installed? If so, do the problems go away if you remove the card? I've seen cases (although, on earlier galaxy devices, not this one) where a corrupt jpeg file causes the gallery app to run constantly, slowing everything else down.
- You said it is always running at 1.3ghz. That could indicate a problem with an app running all the time in the background and slowing things down. When you are not using it for a while (e.g., at night) the CPU should slow down to deep sleep. If that is not happening and you want to figure which app running and keeping it at 1.3, trying downloading an app called BetterBatteryStats. It will show (after a bit of a learning curve) the CPU time for all your running apps.
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You have the current firmware, so that is not the issue. It is possible that you have a corrupted file somewhere that is causing a problem for an app.
To check this:
- Do have an SD card installed? If so, do the problems go away if you remove the card? I've seen cases (although, on earlier galaxy devices, not this one) where a corrupt jpeg file causes the gallery app to run constantly, slowing everything else down.
- You said it is always running at 1.3ghz. That could indicate a problem with an app running all the time in the background and slowing things down. When you are not using it for a while (e.g., at night) the CPU should slow down to deep sleep. If that is not happening and you want to figure which app running and keeping it at 1.3, trying downloading an app called BetterBatteryStats. It will show (after a bit of a learning curve) the CPU time for all your running apps.
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Thank you for your answer.
No sd card yet and i do not think i will need any. I have enough on my s4
I found the system slow so i did a factory reset from the menus.
It was still slow after so i did a hard reset.
If it is a corrupted file. .. That file is in the core files because the hard reset would have wipe it !
But it makes sense tho since the problem is random.
But every thing should be as smooth as the s4 and the note 3 ?
Not because it had a bigger screen. ..i should feel a little lag switching from photos to photos (or windows to windows) ?
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Not because it had a bigger screen.
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The bigger display area will make a difference. The N3 has a PPI of 386 and a 5.7" display. The N10.1-14 has a PPI of 299 and a 10.1" display. I'm too lazy to compute the actual display area but the N10.1-14's CPU/GPU is pushing at least 40% more pixels to the display.
I should feel a little lag switching from photos to photos (or windows to windows) ?
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The N3's much faster at transitions and app opening/closing than the N10.1-14. If you pinch-zoom to display all your home pages on the N3 it's fast; on the N10.1-14 not so much. I find that within apps the N10.1-14's fine and its performance reflects the high-end h/w. It'll stutter occasionally during a transition or in opening/closing apps but it's still plenty fast; at least to me. Hopefully performance will improve when we get 4.4/M-UX because the CES display units were impressively fast at pinch zooming and transitions.
Samsung's Gallery app has always had occasional indexing problems; especially with large numbers of photos and when cloud services are displayed in the Gallery. The next time it happens turn off Wi-Fi. It should instantly start responding normally. Once the indexing service has caught up the Gallery should be fine (until it indexes again).
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The bigger display area will make a difference. The N3 has a PPI of 386 and a 5.7" display. The N10.1-14 has a PPI of 299 and a 10.1" display. I'm too lazy to compute the actual display area but the N10.1-14's CPU/GPU is pushing at least 40% more pixels to the display.
The N3's much faster at transitions and app opening/closing than the N10.1-14. If you pinch-zoom to display all your home pages on the N3 it's fast; on the N10.1-14 not so much. I find that within apps the N10.1-14's fine and its performance reflects the high-end h/w. It'll stutter occasionally during a transition or in opening/closing apps but it's still plenty fast; at least to me. Hopefully performance will improve when we get 4.4/M-UX because the CES display units were impressively fast at pinch zooming and transitions.
Samsung's Gallery app has always had occasional indexing problems; especially with large numbers of photos and when cloud services are displayed in the Gallery. The next time it happens turn off Wi-Fi. It should instantly start responding normally. Once the indexing service has caught up the Gallery should be fine (until it indexes again).
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True, the N3 is a war machine !
But compared to my S4 then, it should at least be as fast !
I really like my S4, decent speed, never crashes.
Only holding the screen between 2 photos is lagging on the 10.1-14 !
But this is not my concern, the real problem is when it decides to run slower then my hold S2 !
And compared to the first gen 10.1, beside the interface which is way better on the 10.1-14, the speed seams faster on the old one and the touch screen works better with fingers too !
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True, the N3 is a war machine !
But compared to my S4 then, it should at least be as fast !
I really like my S4, decent speed, never crashes.
Only holding the screen between 2 photos is lagging on the 10.1-14 !
But this is not my concern, the real problem is when it decides to run slower then my hold S2 !
And compared to the first gen 10.1, beside the interface which is way better on the 10.1-14, the speed seams faster on the old one and the touch screen works better with fingers too !
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It is what it is my friend. You're running the latest U.S. s/w so unless you're having a h/w issue (doubtful) than the performance you're getting is the performance you're going to get. At least until updates hopefully speed of fluidity. The Tab/Note|Pro's running 4.4/M-UX appear significantly faster than the N10.1-14 and use the exact same h/w so the occasional lag we're seeing is curable with s/w.
Hopefully yes.
Is there any software I can install to see which CPU is running ?
Because when it runs great, I m happy with the little lag... not a big problem
But when it decides to stop, them everything is slow.
I see no updates running, if I empty the ram, it is still using 2.05 out of 3 ! ( I have 2 users)
Even switching from users to the other is slower then what I see on youtube (People showing that fonctionnality).
and WAAAY slower that the old nexus 10 I used.
Maybe the switching from 1 processor to the other is not perfect and gives problem a lot ...
Root and freeze or install all the bloat ware Inc my magazine. Download greenify and hibernate running apps, in developer options turn the animations to 0.5. Or try nova launcher too
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Root and freeze or install all the bloat ware Inc my magazine. Download greenify and hibernate running apps, in developer options turn the animations to 0.5. Or try nova launcher too
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reubenskelly1992 said:
Root and freeze or install all the bloat ware Inc my magazine. Download greenify and hibernate running apps, in developer options turn the animations to 0.5. Or try nova launcher too
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Not sure i understood it all. . But I'll try to decrypt.
I don't want to root it right now as I'm not sure i will keep it !!!
I know Nova launcher and was about to give it a try when i figured out the problem was not only the home screen. ..
Is it normal to be running almost all the time at 2.3gb out of 3 ?
I close all the apps on the 2 users, clear the ram and still running at 2.3-2.4gb
I only saw it once at 1.7!
genius312 said:
Not sure i understood it all. . But I'll try to decrypt.
I don't want to root it right now as I'm not sure i will keep it !!!
I know Nova launcher and was about to give it a try when i figured out the problem was not only the home screen. ..
Is it normal to be running almost all the time at 2.3gb out of 3 ?
I close all the apps on the 2 users, clear the ram and still running at 2.3-2.4gb
I only saw it once at 1.7!
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Yeah that sounds about right. You can go to settings > apps. >all. And click on the apps u don't use or u think could be running in the background and disable them. Also the less screen pages and widgets you have running the better. I'd recommend an app called clean master. It will clean your device. Before I rooted my ram was that hight but after rooting it can as low as 1.2. Generally on 1.5. And rarely goes over 2. Hope this helps
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reubenskelly1992 said:
Yeah that sounds about right. You can go to settings > apps. >all. And click on the apps u don't use or u think could be running in the background and disable them. Also the less screen pages and widgets you have running the better. I'd recommend an app called clean master. It will clean your device. Before I rooted my ram was that hight but after rooting it can as low as 1.2. Generally on 1.5. And rarely goes over 2. Hope this helps
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Se this morning it was at 1.9 Gb used out of 3 ! (2,71 in fact)
I have 3 apps opened now (facebook messenger, VLC et My Magazine) and I m using 2.54 ..... I think it s weird !
I only have 5 apps installed on it.
Also, I use swype to type text (slide my fingers through the keyboard) and sometimes it just doesn't work. I start sliding and it's like it cannot see my finger anymore. Works better with the pen again. Like I said previously, like it the screen has hard time to detect my finger on the screen.
Again, sometimes .. not always !
I think I m gonna see how much it will cost me to send it back to samsung and have it repaired .. I don't think all this is normal.
A lot of people say they bought tablets for 150$ and they works perfectly.
Yes mine does multi user, but at 150 I could have bought 4 of 'em + a lot of accessories !
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Se this morning it was at 1.9 Gb used out of 3 ! (2,71 in fact). I have 3 apps opened now (facebook messenger, VLC et My Magazine) and I m using 2.54 ..... I think it s weird ! I only have 5 apps installed on it.
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Don't confuse "apps" with "processes" and "services." Because of all Samsung's "stuff" (EG: Multi View, S Pen) there are a gazillion open processes running in the background anticipating being needed. If you go in to Task Manager and "clear RAM" you'll see 40-50 processes being closed. You really needn't worry about it because Android dynamically manages memory and if something in the foreground needs memory it'll prioritize what to close in the background. Also, Mali reserves probably 500MB for itself at all times so you never really had 3GB of RAM truly available. Samsung, not being a benevolent company, included 3GB of RAM in the N3 and N10.1-14 for a reason.
In other words, if you're having some type of performance issue it's highly doubtful it's being caused by RAM starvation.
Of course the ram is not the problem... even if there is only 300 mo free, that s enough to manage the program I run.
But I really hate when I cannot swipe to type, when the gallery is so buggy that I cannot browse my pictures ( 10 photos max... not linked with Dropbox or facebook), when I have to wait for the next page in the apps page, when I try to slide the page and it just doesn't t work.. have to do it twice or trice ... When I want to slide down the notifications but I have to try 3-5-6 or 7 times...
Switching pages in the S note take times...sometimes lag but that is not a problem for me... All the others tho really makes me feel like either that tablet is a crap or mine has a problem .
I would sincerely prefere the second
When it s not buggy it works great... but sooooo unstable
Let me preface by saying that I have been a Nova prime launcher user since as far back as I can recall. My beautiful white Nova outfitted Note 3 is sitting right next to me still connected via wifi as I transfer my experience to my Note 4. That said, I committed to actually giving TouchWiz a chance with this purchase and so far so good. Granted, it's just one day in but thus far TouchWiz feels and works wonderfully. There are certain cues that are lost when going to a 3rd party launcher which drove my decision to really commit to giving TW a shot this time around. So far I have been able to avoid going to the play store and grabbing trusty ol Nova..lol
I'm interested in hearing the thoughts from those of you that are also using TW. Please share.
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I don't like the app drawer icon in the bottom right, nor the spacing of the icons. That being said, it runs nice on this phone. I too have been using Nova exclusively for years, but have been using Google now launder and really like it. Going to stick with it for at least a while.
I used Touchwiz for a bit but quickly switched back to GNL.
137 views. 2 comments. A clear representation of what everyone thinks of TW..lol.
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Let me preface by saying that I have been a Nova prime launcher user since as far back as I can recall. My beautiful white Nova outfitted Note 3 is sitting right next to me still connected via wifi as I transfer my experience to my Note 4. That said, I committed to actually giving TouchWiz a chance with this purchase and so far so good. Granted, it's just one day in but thus far TouchWiz feels and works wonderfully. There are certain cues that are lost when going to a 3rd party launcher which drove my decision to really commit to giving TW a shot this time around. So far I have been able to avoid going to the play store and grabbing trusty ol Nova..lol
I'm interested in hearing the thoughts from those of you that are also using TW. Please share.
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I am with you 100%. I was a Note 3 user with my sexy Nova Prime since I got it, and I would never go back to touchwiz.... until now. So far I have made it 2 days on Touchwiz. I mean it is clean, and it looks awesome, but I miss having more rows for icons, and mainly for stretching my widgets. So I feel at some time I am going to switch back. I wanted to give Touchwiz 2 days to see the battery effect when switching to Nova. I definitely am with you I would like to hear other peoples views, if anyone is using Apex, and what features they are switching to a launcher to get, for me its:
- 5 rows of icons
- App drawer also shows widgets
- App drawer can scroll apps vertically and horizontally
- When pressing and holding an icon you have the option to remove, uninstall, all from the app, without having to click it, hold it, and drag to remove. And then going to the app draw, clicking, dragging, and dropping on uninstall.
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I used Touchwiz for a bit but quickly switched back to GNL.
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Thank you for posting about google now launcher, somehow I missed that one. I love it!
I was also pretty happy with touchwiz (I used TW the whole time with note 3), but GNL is still so much cleaner and I love the integrated full screen google now. Google has a much better sense for interface design.
I'm on day three with TW and haven't had any strange impulses to go grab Nova. This is good. No lag. Silky smooth. The only tweak I made this far was to change all of the animation settings to .5 in developer settings.
This phone is incredible. I didn't think it could get no much better coming from my note 3 but they've really stepped things up.
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I've always used launchers and roms to mimic stock android but since I got the note 4 I haven't even thought about it. I'm pretty impressed with TouchWiz on this phone.
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I too am going on three days with Touchwiz. On my GS4 I used GNL modified with Xposed. I miss the swipe left for Google Now, but otherwise it has been a much better experience than Touchwiz on my Captivate, GS2 or GS4. Once/if we get root I may be convinced to switch, until then I will stick with Touchwiz.
I tried TW the first day and I did find it slightly laggy and hated the folder icons. I'm back to Nova Prime.
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Been using TW without a hitch.
Me too giving TW a chance so far so good.
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I found slightly laggy so I went back to Nova, but I might give it a second chance. The thing I definitely find not as smooth as expected is the recent apps, it takes a bit for the phone to show them once you tap the button, and a it to switch to the newly selected app. Nothing huge but with the phone's specs I expected a bit more
back to nova prime after 10 minutes lol
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I found slightly laggy so I went back to Nova, but I might give it a second chance. The thing I definitely find not as smooth as expected is the recent apps, it takes a bit for the phone to show them once you tap the button, and a it to switch to the newly selected app. Nothing huge but with the phone's specs I expected a bit more
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^^^ this
I was just about to ask about this. Is there any alternative or possible fix? It's quite laggy with the 2-3sec delay at first pull up.
My only complaint / wish for future fix
On my note 2 I was an avid Nova user, I am trying to use the stock touchwiz, but find myself annoyed that I cannot alphabetize apps in a folder.
I might give it a week then jump back to Nova, le sigh.
Jennygirl said:
^^^ this
I was just about to ask about this. Is there any alternative or possible fix? It's quite laggy with the 2-3sec delay at first pull up.
My only complaint / wish for future fix
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The fix for this is allegedly the update that is floating around for the Note 4. The international versions have it, and the TMo version got it yesterday (I think). It fixes the recent applications button and improves the battery life. So it is said at least.
Not sure when AT&T is going to release it. I would expect it any minute, but thats just an opinion, no one really knows.
That's great to know!
Looking forward to that update x2 now
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The fix for this is allegedly the update that is floating around for the Note 4. The international versions have it, and the TMo version got it yesterday (I think). It fixes the recent applications button and improves the battery life. So it is said at least.
Not sure when AT&T is going to release it. I would expect it any minute, but thats just an opinion, no one really knows.
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Good to hear that! Hopefully AT&T won't take forever, but that might be wishing too much lol
TW isn't bad at all, but I like Nova because I can change the icon size/spacing and also take the padding out of widgets and fit a LOT more on my screens.
The one thing I freaking HATE is all the white in TW now, the settings menus, etc. WHY!?!?!?!? Don't devs understand that we have this thing called darkness? Man they should at least give us the option of a dark theme.
Hello XDA,
This is my first thread on XDA and I feel as if XDA is the place to come for all Android. Here, I was hoping to bring up some issues on the beautiful Note 4. Any fixes?
Snapdragon 805 not properly optimized?
There are a few example I can give for this. When using the swipe lock screen option, with the popping colors. If you briefly touch it, the colors would come up, but pay close attention to the colors that come up. At least a few of you should notice the FPS drop when the colors rise and begin to fade, and its not bad but its concerning considering the power this phone has. Also, playing Real Racing 3 is pretty much impossible with the horrid 20 FPS the game plays at, when an 801 runs it as smooth as butter. Concerning.
Of course, the laggy multitasking button (I think thats what its called)
This is a major issue a lot of Note 4 users have complained about. Pressing the on-the-phone-button to see what apps are open is really slow at times and its frustrating cause, once again, this phone is really awesome. Any fix on this? I turned briefing off (Even if I loved it).
The occasional stutter
Honestly, this is the only other issue I've seen with this device. The 805 possibly not being optimized is kind of the main issue I've seen with the entire devices stutters. The multitasking button as well being the issue. Do you guys know any fixes for these two issues, or news on it, confirmations?
I too am finding the Note 4 shockingly slow given the specs. Browsing the Web is like walking through quicksand. Scrolling Web pages lags and stutters.
I don't get it. I had an S5 for 2 weeks and it was MUCH faster than this. ?
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I've checked out the popping colors in lock screen and real racing. Both have no issues. How ever I do notice some lag with the Note 4.
imKorbi said:
Hello XDA,
This is my first thread on XDA and I feel as if XDA is the place to come for all Android. Here, I was hoping to bring up some issues on the beautiful Note 4. Any fixes?
Snapdragon 805 not properly optimized?
There are a few example I can give for this. When using the swipe lock screen option, with the popping colors. If you briefly touch it, the colors would come up, but pay close attention to the colors that come up. At least a few of you should notice the FPS drop when the colors rise and begin to fade, and its not bad but its concerning considering the power this phone has. Also, playing Real Racing 3 is pretty much impossible with the horrid 20 FPS the game plays at, when an 801 runs it as smooth as butter. Concerning.
Of course, the laggy multitasking button (I think thats what its called)
This is a major issue a lot of Note 4 users have complained about. Pressing the on-the-phone-button to see what apps are open is really slow at times and its frustrating cause, once again, this phone is really awesome. Any fix on this? I turned briefing off (Even if I loved it).
The occasional stutter
Honestly, this is the only other issue I've seen with this device. The 805 possibly not being optimized is kind of the main issue I've seen with the entire devices stutters. The multitasking button as well being the issue. Do you guys know any fixes for these two issues, or news on it, confirmations?
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No lag on real racing 3 here. Even when I was just rooted on stock Rom so I could use ps3 controller with rr3 and it was fine. And if games do lag, it's up to the game developer to optimize it for that processor, not the other way around. It's not like Sony designed their processor in a ps4 around games that don't exist yet. Don't know why u right off the bat blame the hardware when it is all software issues.
If any thing is Lagging is is the poorly optimized Sprint crap and other apps on the phone. The processor is working as it should as any benchmark will show. I really find it sad that everyone is always so quick to blame the hardware. Have any of you claiming lag this and stutter this run benchmarks? If you did you would see this hardware is running actually better than predicted.
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If any thing is Lagging is is the poorly optimized Sprint crap and other apps on the phone. The processor is working as it should as any benchmark will show. I really find it sad that everyone is always so quick to blame the hardware. Have any of you claiming lag this and stutter this run benchmarks? If you did you would see this hardware is running actually better than predicted.
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I have to agree.
Solarenemy68 said:
If any thing is Lagging is is the poorly optimized Sprint crap and other apps on the phone. The processor is working as it should as any benchmark will show. I really find it sad that everyone is always so quick to blame the hardware. Have any of you claiming lag this and stutter this run benchmarks? If you did you would see this hardware is running actually better than predicted.
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Lol, benchmarks? Honestly, who cares about benchmarks, especially when they can be so easily manipulated by how the manufacturer sets things up. Benchmarks are meaningless. All that matters is real world performance.
That being said I've done two things which seem to have improved my performance:
1. Running the Hybrid Rom. I recommend flashing back to the stock Sprint kernel as the included kernel was causing heat issues for me (YMMV).
2. Using Wanam Xposed to disable DVFS in Advanced Settings. This REALLY helped as it has on any Samsung device I've owned.
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sprint probably
I think its sprint. Some people have Verizon N4 and they have 0 lag on the phone and some dont. I dont know why, but its frustrating knowing that just because of my carrier means that my device will be slower then others. Any fixes?
And the reason why I said that the 805 may not be optimized is because there is another thread, might be on XDA, that talks about how the device slows down and speeds up the 805 at the wrong times in game with RR3.
So is it sprint?? And if there anyway around this unnecessary lag?
If you guys want me to take a video of my Note 4 with the lag I will do so and show you guys what I mean. FPS drop im popping colors occasionally and lag in multitasking button, sometimes im waiting 5 seconds for all the windows to pop up.
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I think its sprint. Some people have Verizon N4 and they have 0 lag on the phone and some dont. I dont know why, but its frustrating knowing that just because of my carrier means that my device will be slower then others. Any fixes?
And the reason why I said that the 805 may not be optimized is because there is another thread, might be on XDA, that talks about how the device slows down and speeds up the 805 at the wrong times in game with RR3.
So is it sprint?? And if there anyway around this unnecessary lag?
If you guys want me to take a video of my Note 4 with the lag I will do so and show you guys what I mean. FPS drop im popping colors occasionally and lag in multitasking button, sometimes im waiting 5 seconds for all the windows to pop up.
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Try disabling DVFS using Wanam Xposed Advanced Settings. May prevent throttling.
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Try disabling DVFS using Wanam Xposed Advanced Settings. May prevent throttling.
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Im sorry, how do I do this? Ive heard this a lot and I dont know how it works >.< Easy way to explaom it?? Or possibly a video?
You have to root your phone, then install Wanam Exposed.
This gives you a lot of flexibility on changing things with touchwiz.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AESaWGWCvzY
There is a youtube with a basic overview of installing. After installing the framework, you would install Wanam, then in there is the settings you can tweak.
I got an update on my sprint note 4 on monday i believe it was and since that update i do not experience the lag i was having with the apps button , besides the normal half a second lag its supposed to have because if you hold that button down it opens the settings for what ever program you have running
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Thank you so far
Thanks guys Ill check out that video. Also, XDA mobile premium app wont open on my N4 either... Well.
Do you think the video will help??
Try this. No root needed.
Go to Settings > About Device > Build Number and tap the “Build Number” row 7 times.
This will reveal a “Developer Options” setting just above “About Device”- Enable it. Tap*“Window animation scale” and set to Off.
Tap “Transition animation scale” and set to Off.
Tap *“Animator duration scale” and set to Off
The default is usually 1X, so even lowering this to .5x should speed things up a bit.
Another thing you can try is disable S Voice by double tapping the home key.
App Settings > S Voice. Uncheck "Open via the home key."
Now when you press the home key, the phone won't be waiting to see if you are going to press it a second time.
One other option would be to switch from Dalvik to ART runtime.
Go back to Developer Options > Select runtime system. Select ART. phone will reboot and reload all your apps. The only problem I found with this is every time you reboot your phone, Android will update and reload all your apps. This will take a long time if you have a lot of apps.
I am posting here because I've been through countless forums, hearing many suggestions, but none has helped.
My issue, is lag, and performance issues on my Verizon Galaxy Note 4. At first, it was just a hiccup every now and again, which is Touchwiz, and I didn't really mind it. But now, it's to the point where I cannot experience a fully smooth experience. Every window that opens glitches out and stutters, scrolling freezes and jumps, the notification bar freezes and glitches out, keyboard typing is delayed, and Swype is slow and laggy.
So then, I read online that the Note 4 usually scores above 43,000 in AnTuTu benchmark. Mine scored 28,000. I've cleared the cache partition, I've deleted just about every singe app, I've disabled bloatware, I've done almost everything. There are a few things I DON'T want to do, which are:
- Change launchers. I don't want Nova, or anything else. I like Touchwiz, and I don't care about the occasional hiccup.
- Factory reset. I'd like this to be the last resort, since I already have many passwords, settings, pictures, and music stored on this device.
- Change window animation blahblah in developer options.
I'm starting to miss my Note 3. It ran much smoother, and faster even. What are my options from here? I'd greatly appreciate the help.
Unfortunately this seems to be a problem that plagues all Samsung android devices. That's why I quit buying Samsung products many years ago. Last week I decided to give them another go with the Note 4 and I do love the phone, but..... it's doing the same things you describe and that I have experienced before. Samsung puts too much bloat that you can't get rid of on the phone and I think that all of that on top of touch wiz just makes for a very poor user experience. I had the droid turbo previously and want to go back to it after only a week with this device.
Dang! I guess my only hope is for Lollipop to make things smoother.
My Note 4 started lagging almost immediately when it was brand new. I brought the device home, ran the initial setup (which did restore most of my google play store apps that I had used on my previous device), and the lag started almost immediately. I spent far too much time trying task killers, phone cleaners, clearing cache, etc., etc. I finally bit the bullet and did a factory reset.
Doing a factory reset really helped a lot. I did make sure to turn off auto update and auto restore in Google Play Store first. After completing the initial setup I manually installed ONLY the apps that I use regularly .
Factory resetting is a bit of a pain, but not really all that bad. I think it is probably required to solve your problem.
Debloating the uneeded preinstalled apps helps too. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2998294 for instructions on how to debloat the Note 4 without requiring root (or voiding your warranty).
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Alrighty, thanks. I'm working on backing up music and passwords now, and planning on doing a factory reset very soon. And thanks for the link to that debloater software, I'll be sure to try that.
Hardware-related?
Sorry but the Touchwiz is terrible stuff is overblown. I haven't really had any stuttering after months of owning the device. The Note 4 came with the slimmest Touchwiz to date and, as you say, the Note 3 had no problems with performance. Yes, its good to debloat, but what you are experiencing seems to be more serious. The fact that your Antutu benchmark isn't close to where it should be is a red flag. My 910V registers 46680. If a factory reset doesn't work, you may try to return it or contact Samsung to see what options you have available to you.
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I am posting here because I've been through countless forums, hearing many suggestions, but none has helped.
My issue, is lag, and performance issues on my Verizon Galaxy Note 4. At first, it was just a hiccup every now and again, which is Touchwiz, and I didn't really mind it. But now, it's to the point where I cannot experience a fully smooth experience. Every window that opens glitches out and stutters, scrolling freezes and jumps, the notification bar freezes and glitches out, keyboard typing is delayed, and Swype is slow and laggy.
So then, I read online that the Note 4 usually scores above 43,000 in AnTuTu benchmark. Mine scored 28,000. I've cleared the cache partition, I've deleted just about every singe app, I've disabled bloatware, I've done almost everything. There are a few things I DON'T want to do, which are:
- Change launchers. I don't want Nova, or anything else. I like Touchwiz, and I don't care about the occasional hiccup.
- Factory reset. I'd like this to be the last resort, since I already have many passwords, settings, pictures, and music stored on this device.
- Change window animation blahblah in developer options.
I'm starting to miss my Note 3. It ran much smoother, and faster even. What are my options from here? I'd greatly appreciate the help.
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holy**** i was just browsing around forums and i saw this
i have a note 2 on kitkat and it scores 31000 on touchwiz (Ditto note 4 rom)
amazing performace on note 2 thats why i didnt even feel the need to buy note 3 or 4
i dont think touchwiz is the problem specially for a device like note 4
You could try these things to get better performance
use custom kernel and use high freq (Nadia kernel in your case)
root you device and delete all waste apps from system/app and system/priv-app
OR
flash a deodexed rom
Worth case scenario you may have a slow internal storage causing all the lag and problems in that case backup your data and flash a stock rom and re flash a partition table for your device
this would definately solve your problem (had this problem on tab 2 10.1 and this last method worked for me)
Ashwin Prabhunerurkar said:
holy**** i was just browsing around forums and i saw this
i have a note 2 on kitkat and it scores 31000 on touchwiz (Ditto note 4 rom)
amazing performace on note 2 thats why i didnt even feel the need to buy note 3 or 4
i dont think touchwiz is the problem specially for a device like note 4
You could try these things to get better performance
use custom kernel and use high freq (Nadia kernel in your case)
root you device and delete all waste apps from system/app and system/priv-app
OR
flash a deodexed rom
Worth case scenario you may have a slow internal storage causing all the lag and problems in that case backup your data and flash a stock rom and re flash a partition table for your device
this would definately solve your problem (had this problem on tab 2 10.1 and this last method worked for me)
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Unfortunately, none of these are currently an option because the Verizon Note 4 is currently not rootable and the bootloader is also locked.
Anzion said:
Unfortunately, none of these are currently an option because the Verizon Note 4 is currently not rootable and the bootloader is also locked.
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if it is happening only to you then my guess is it is an hardware problem and get your device replaced
but better backup your device as the verizon people will want to format your device and reflash it before they declare it as a bad device and replace it
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Alrighty, thanks. I'm working on backing up music and passwords now, and planning on doing a factory reset very soon. And thanks for the link to that debloater software, I'll be sure to try that.
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Good luck, hope this works for you. Please let us know if this solves your problem, or not.
Fyi: My Note 4 gets an AnTuTu Benchmark score of 47315 (free app available from Google Play).
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Not sure if this is still an issue, but make sure none of your battery saving functions are active. Settings -> Power -> power saving mode, make sure that's off. Just a thought
KamajiH said:
I am posting here because I've been through countless forums, hearing many suggestions, but none has helped.
My issue, is lag, and performance issues on my Verizon Galaxy Note 4. At first, it was just a hiccup every now and again, which is Touchwiz, and I didn't really mind it. But now, it's to the point where I cannot experience a fully smooth experience. Every window that opens glitches out and stutters, scrolling freezes and jumps, the notification bar freezes and glitches out, keyboard typing is delayed, and Swype is slow and laggy.
So then, I read online that the Note 4 usually scores above 43,000 in AnTuTu benchmark. Mine scored 28,000. I've cleared the cache partition, I've deleted just about every singe app, I've disabled bloatware, I've done almost everything. There are a few things I DON'T want to do, which are:
- Change launchers. I don't want Nova, or anything else. I like Touchwiz, and I don't care about the occasional hiccup.
- Factory reset. I'd like this to be the last resort, since I already have many passwords, settings, pictures, and music stored on this device.
- Change window animation blahblah in developer options.
I'm starting to miss my Note 3. It ran much smoother, and faster even. What are my options from here? I'd greatly appreciate the help.
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I just Antutu'd mine and got around 39,000 . Then I cleared cache and ram and the restarted, . After the test ran faster, can't say twice as fast just faster. The results were 40,0007. According to the comparisons mine was 5 below the listing for the Note 4. the one item that did bother me is that the S5 was listed one model ahead of mine, but 4 models away from the listed Note 4.
In your case there must be apps running that you don't know of. You have to check running apps in the app manager. Just look on the "ALL" listing and turn off any that you can turn off and don't need. Many of them show " Turn off" but it's grayed out which is total bs to me. Plus from some web searching I've read that the new S6 may be bloat free
Lastly, use Greenify- go to settings/assesibility/Greenify
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Doing a factory reset seems to have solved the problem. Also, I didn't sync all my apps over, so that may have caused the problem the first time.
I'm actually scoring good, too. Thank you guys for helping!
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Not sure if this is still an issue, but make sure none of your battery saving functions are active. Settings -> Power -> power saving mode, make sure that's off. Just a thought
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That was the culprit in my case. Huge change that took my model to the top on the list registering 49,987. I'll leave it off for a day or 2 and see what happens to the battery performance. While using the power saver the battery has been stellar. From off the charger at 7:30 am Id have 65% by 7 pm
As far as lag, to get rid of it just set Window, Transition and Animator scale to "off" under Developer options and you should be good to go. I've done that since the S3 days no problem and phone gets waay faster.
So here we go again, it's lagging terribly again. The only different thing I did, was install the negative color notification widget from the Samsung store (which I didn't even do last time), so that can't be why it's lagging. There is literally no explanation.
And yeah, I've tried turning off window animation, and etc. That only got rid of opening window lag. But I'm still lagging hard everywhere else.
I have no lag issues at all. This Note 4 is the smoothest operating Samsung phone that I have ever owned. Here's my results:
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I would send it back to Verizon. Must be a hardware problem I'm guessing. Good luck
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So here we go again, it's lagging terribly again. The only different thing I did, was install the negative color notification widget from the Samsung store (which I didn't even do last time), so that can't be why it's lagging. There is literally no explanation.
And yeah, I've tried turning off window animation, and etc. That only got rid of opening window lag. But I'm still lagging hard everywhere else.
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You could try Greenify (free version should be fine) and see which apps it suggests be hibernated. Just don't hibernate anything that generates notifications that you need. This has helped me in the past. Some apps like Facebook are notorious for causing battery drain. I uninstalled FB and use a browser link (saved to my home screen) to check my account when I want.
I have no idea what you guys did to your phone mine flirts with 50,000 on antutu every time and is like butter and runs so so cool
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I have no idea what you guys did to your phone mine flirts with 50,000 on antutu every time and is like butter and runs so so cool
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You're right on the Antutu, mine is about the same.
Maybe who ever has an issue should state on where and what part of the phone
examples-
Internet access and page return speed- connection related
Email access and refresh speed- same as above
Screen swiping speed- Touch wiz, try Nova
Stock apps performance- one's that don't need Int access and ones that do- possibly here could lie the issue
Texting - sending/ receiving ?- with Verizon this is purely connection related
Also, whoever suggested to kill the Face book app , you're 100% right. I use a link now and the whole phone works better
Last- I use the Samsung app- Vitamins. For me, I use is the system cleanup. This goes along with the left menu button clean up and Greenify