Many applications still do not work yet in Lollipop.
So to remove system apps this one works great:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jumobile.manager.systemapp
If you remove but keep the app in recycle bin thos equals a freeze and if the app is deleted from recycle will be definetely removed.
Edit.
Thanks to GROGG88 found a new and better one working with lollipop
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=uk.co.curlybracket.backup&hl=en
This app also backup your apps data and more
Why not use the disable and/or uninstall function that's built into the app manager? Freezing and/or removing apps will cause issues with OTAs unless reversed.
nhizzat said:
Why not use the disable and/or uninstall function that's built into the app manager? Freezing and/or removing apps will cause issues with OTAs unless reversed.
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Can the stock app manager delete system apps?
nhizzat said:
Why not use the disable and/or uninstall function that's built into the app manager? Freezing and/or removing apps will cause issues with OTAs unless reversed.
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Freezing apps got nothing to do with OTA problems, just removing
Thanks to GROGG88 found a new and better one working with lollipop
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=uk.co.curlybracket.backup&hl=en
tylerdurden83 said:
Can the stock app manager delete system apps?
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Nope, and there's ZERO reason to remove them. Just disable them. If nothing else, you can use pm disable
It doesn't break OTAs and it doesn't soft brick you if you remove the wrong thing.
khaytsus said:
Nope, and there's ZERO reason to remove them. Just disable them. If nothing else, you can use pm disable
It doesn't break OTAs and it doesn't soft brick you if you remove the wrong thing.
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Clearly you don't own a Nexus 10. The lollipop images are made that there is ZERO bytes left in the /system partition, therefore whatever you try to install there (battery stats, busybox, appops) will fail.
tylerdurden83 said:
Clearly you don't own a Nexus 10. The lollipop images are made that there is ZERO bytes left in the /system partition, therefore whatever you try to install there (battery stats, busybox, appops) will fail.
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You're right, I don't.
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khaytsus said:
Nope, and there's ZERO reason to remove them. Just disable them. If nothing else, you can use pm disable
It doesn't break OTAs and it doesn't soft brick you if you remove the wrong thing.
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Don't the system apps still have a DEX file in the /data partition/area taking up space?
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So being the impatient soul I am, right after I got permanent root, I decided to jump into Titanium Backup and deleted some of the bloatware. I was so impatient, that I totally forgot to backup the system apps I deleted to a backup folder on my SDcard, so now those apks are gone. My question is now, if an OTA becomes available, am I going to have problems again, just like with Paul's Goggles app?
If so, what do you suggest I do? I am guessing now that now root has been achieved, we can install those apps to the system just fine again. Can someone upload these apks for these system apps, so I just feel on the safe side and I have backups? I would greatly appreciate it...
Amazon MP3
Home Screen Tips
Google Sky Map
web2go
Photobucket
Twitter
Of course, if you don't see this as being a problem for the future, please tell me. It would make me feel a lot more secure about things. Thanks!
it shouldnt be a problem, you can re download those in the market
Goddamn it. Now I went to uninstall Email.apk to replace it with an old one that doesn't require remote security, but it keeps giving me an "Application not installed" error, even with the backup of the original.
How do I get it to install?!
KShatzkes said:
Goddamn it. Now I went to uninstall Email.apk to replace it with an old one that doesn't require remote security, but it keeps giving me an "Application not installed" error, even with the backup of the original.
How do I get it to install?!
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You don't install system apps, you just move then into /system/app/
its likely if an OTA becomes available a dev will mod it to be flashable to rooted and modified /system/ devices
i would love to know how to get rid of the annoying [email protected]!*& adds
sundar2012 said:
its likely if an OTA becomes available a dev will mod it to be flashable to rooted and modified /system/ devices
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Okay, I feel much better now. Time to play around with this thing! So excited!
Yea if an ota comes out, it will be modded to update the system and skip files not found, if there is a patch.
So your good. I'm just waiting for custom recovery with nandbackup before I start messing n the system. I just hate setting up the phone all over after
And if all else fails you can fastboot flash system.img from the orig pc10img. Wiping all your data and formating ur system. Then updating to ota.
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so what are the commands to enter for removing/deleting the unwanted apps??
kurtis.austin2 said:
so what are the commands to enter for removing/deleting the unwanted apps??
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Curious to know this as well.
curious to know
Just use Titanium Backup to uninstall any apps you want. Long click on the app, and an uninstall option will be there.
KShatzkes said:
Just use Titanium Backup to uninstall any apps you want. Long click on the app, and an uninstall option will be there.
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I actually already did, but I wanted to know the commands just for personal reference.
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cbmm said:
i would love to know how to get rid of the annoying [email protected]!*& adds
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Download "adfree" in the market. Done.
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I'm a bit confused about how to avoid problems after unrooting and trying to do an OTA update.
Is it ok to uninstall ANY preinstalled apps? I understand the dangers of uninstalling system apps after rooting....but is it ok to uninstall other bloatware like TripAdvisor and games which come with their own uninstaller and can be uninstalled even without rooting?
iainmann said:
I'm a bit confused about how to avoid problems after unrooting and trying to do an OTA update.
Is it ok to uninstall ANY preinstalled apps? I understand the dangers of uninstalling system apps after rooting....but is it ok to uninstall other bloatware like TripAdvisor and games which come with their own uninstaller and can be uninstalled even without rooting?
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The general rule (which I learned the hard way) is to freeze system apps instead of uninstalling them. That way if you get any force close errors or problems you can unfreeze them right away. For example, uninstalling WhatsNext caused my camera to stop working properly.
cmendonc2 said:
The general rule (which I learned the hard way) is to freeze system apps instead of uninstalling them. That way if you get any force close errors or problems you can unfreeze them right away. For example, uninstalling WhatsNext caused my camera to stop working properly.
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Thanks. But for things like TripAdvisor it's OK to uninstall them in the usual way i.e. without rooting?
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iainmann said:
Thanks. But for things like TripAdvisor it's OK to uninstall them in the usual way i.e. without rooting?
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Yeah, I uninstalled TripAdvisor and Omlet Chat and Dr Virus (or whatever), etc as soon as I turned on the device. Anything included app that allows to to uninstall it normally through the launcher can be uninstalled safely.
cmendonc2 said:
Yeah, I uninstalled TripAdvisor and Omlet Chat and Dr Virus (or whatever), etc as soon as I turned on the device. Anything included app that allows to to uninstall it normally through the launcher can be uninstalled safely.
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After uninstalling, were you able to get updates through OTA?
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swiftden said:
After uninstalling, were you able to get updates through OTA?
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Well, my phone is rooted and has xposed installed, so I haven't tried installing an OTA update yet. Too lazy to unroot and uninstall xposed. I think I'm going to wait for a few more updates to roll by and then do them all at once.
Threw this together. A simple aroma-based debater for the OP5. If anyone wants something more added, just let me know...
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=673368273298973644
dustintinsley said:
Threw this together. A simple aroma-based debater for the OP5. If anyone wants something more added, just let me know...
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=673368273298973644
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more info please..
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gershee said:
more info please..
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A debloater for OnePlus 5 (really any OxygenOS, but I only have OP5 now). Allows for removal of a lot of pre-installed apps. All apps are user selected. Can trim down and remove unused apps.
Hi,
I tried it with new OOS 4.57 and did not delete any Gapp
For system apps related to Oneplus like logskit and so on, it was ok and working like a charm.
tokecin said:
Hi,
I tried it with new OOS 4.57 and did not delete any Gapp
For system apps related to Oneplus like logskit and so on, it was ok and working like a charm.
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Interesting comment as my long time debloat app System app remover (ROOT) wasn't able to remove Gapps apps (Google Music, Google Movie/TV) either. I'm trying to make /system room for installing V4ARISE but after this latest OTA there is not enough /system space left.
In fact that's why I'm looking at this debloat method. I wonder if the issue you observed is why the app I'd previously used no longer works. Unless I find something better I'll likely try Titanium Backup's uninstall method but I was looking for a way to batch clean up which I suspect would need to get done after every OTA.
EDIT: Using Titanium Backup to backup then uninstall worked. I removed Duo (~20Mg) to recovery the space I needed.
3DSammy said:
Interesting comment as my long time debloat app System app remover (ROOT) wasn't able to remove Gapps apps (Google Music, Google Movie/TV) either. I'm trying to make /system room for installing V4ARISE but after this latest OTA there is not enough /system space left.
In fact that's why I'm looking at this debloat method. I wonder if the issue you observed is why the app I'd previously used no longer works. Unless I find something better I'll likely try Titanium Backup's uninstall method but I was looking for a way to batch clean up which I suspect would need to get done after every OTA.
EDIT: Using Titanium Backup to backup then uninstall worked. I removed Duo (~20Mg) to recovery the space I needed.
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I am using also Titanium Backup for Gapps but freezing them rather than un-install.
Today, I tried deeper aroma script and I can uninstall every bloatware less Gapps (Chrome, Gmail,...)
Based on the title itself, what are the list of apps/packages that you guys removed (or can be removed) to debloat Mi A2 Lite?
Theres not that much bloatware in the device. And I think removing a system app will break OTA updates.
Uuuhhh. Welcome to my world. I don't like being tracked all the time by the countless sensors a modern smartphone has. Privacy is utterly important for me (and should be for everyone, but I'm not here to discuss this haha). Also, I hate making it easy to the multimillionaire companies profiting from selling and playing with your privacy. That's why I can't wait for the custom ROMs to start showing.
So, for now I disabled ALL google and all xiaomi apps. All of them except the "phone", "clock" and "carrier services" apps (the first 2 are too delicate for me and I didn't find a trustworthy alternative and I have no idea what the 3rd does, but seems important haha). Everything else, gone. Even "feedback", "PAI" and "Spock". And, of course, I don't have a google account linked to the device.
On the first boot, the phone connects to the internet and downloads a few other Google and Xiaomi apps. I prevented it to do so, so I wouldn't have to disable too many apps. I disabled google play services, play store and device setup (among the other ones) before connecting to internet.
Everything works fine in my phone (only one issue. Some apps rely on google services to show the map image. The image doesn't work while google services are disabled. But you can always enable it if you wanna use it).
Let me know if you have any question of any app/service/whatever you want to disable. I can share the alternative apps I use for the disable Google ones. I must say that most of them work even better.
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Uuuhhh. Welcome to my world. I don't like being tracked all the time by the countless sensors a modern smartphone has. Privacy is utterly important for me (and should be for everyone, but I'm not here to discuss this haha). Also, I hate making it easy to the multimillionaire companies profiting from selling and playing with your privacy. That's why I can't wait for the custom ROMs to start showing.
So, for now I disabled ALL google and all xiaomi apps. All of them except the "phone", "clock" and "carrier services" apps (the first 2 are too delicate for me and I didn't find a trustworthy alternative and I have no idea what the 3rd does, but seems important haha). Everything else, gone. Even "feedback", "PAI" and "Spock". And, of course, I don't have a google account linked to the device.
On the first boot, the phone connects to the internet and downloads a few other Google and Xiaomi apps. I prevented it to do so, so I wouldn't have to disable too many apps. I disabled google play services, play store and device setup (among the other ones) before connecting to internet.
Everything works fine in my phone (only one issue. Some apps rely on google services to show the map image. The image doesn't work while google services are disabled. But you can always enable it if you wanna use it).
Let me know if you have any question of any app/service/whatever you want to disable. I can share the alternative apps I use for the disable Google ones. I must say that most of them work even better.
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That's awesome. I wanted to know your alternatives to some of the system apps. I wanted to uninstall the default file manager of oreo but I can't find the package name from "debloater" magisk module. Also, what are the packages/apps that you uninstalled? Do you mind listing it here?
fake__knv said:
And I think removing a system app will break OTA updates.
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is it true?
can anyone check it?
maybe magisk is not causing problems with OTA updates?
fake__knv said:
Theres not that much bloatware in the device. And I think removing a system app will break OTA updates.
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You can uninstall non wanted stuff with the help of ADB without the need of rooting your phone. It doesn't get uninstalled for real, but hidden for the main user profile. Those apps can't run but OTA isn't a problem.
Check it out:
https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
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@adriakus
You can remove carrier services if you removed Google Messages aswell.
"In a nutshell, the Carrier Services app is intended to allow your smart phone to take full advantage of a technology called Rich Communications Services, or RCS.
RCS allows for extra features in the Android Messaging app. The thing is most carriers have their own methods of supporting RCS in place so Google’s app is often redundant."
elvinguitar said:
That's awesome. I wanted to know your alternatives to some of the system apps. I wanted to uninstall the default file manager of oreo but I can't find the package name from "debloater" magisk module. Also, what are the packages/apps that you uninstalled? Do you mind listing it here?
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I've just created this post. I hope you find it useful
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a2-lite/how-to/guide-apps-services-safe-to-disable-t3849263
I'm still working on it. Check in tomorrow and it'll be finished.
adriakus said:
I've just created this post. I hope you find it useful
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a2-lite/how-to/guide-apps-services-safe-to-disable-t3849263
I'm still working on it. Check in tomorrow and it'll be finished.
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Awesome! Thanks for creating this thread. I'll definitely check it out.
krzygaj said:
is it true?
can anyone check it?
maybe magisk is not causing problems with OTA updates?
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I can confirm, touching ANYTHING on system partition (eg. hosts file) will cause OTA issues. Everything should be done systemlessly.
Majaque said:
I can confirm, touching ANYTHING on system partition (eg. hosts file) will cause OTA issues. Everything should be done systemlessly.
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Can Adaway cause problems with OTA updates?
krzygaj said:
Can Adaway cause problems with OTA updates?
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Yes, to prevent it you should turn on "Systemless host" option in Magisk Manager.
Majaque said:
I can confirm, touching ANYTHING on system partition (eg. hosts file) will cause OTA issues. Everything should be done systemlessly.
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Force-disabling a system app affects the system partition? Or it would only affect it if it's unisntalled?
adriakus said:
Force-disabling a system app affects the system partition? Or it would only affect it if it's unisntalled?
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Shouldn't be a problem. If you disable/freeze a system app with for example Titanium Backup and you restore the stock system partition via fastboot afterwards, the disabled app is still disabled. So the conclusion should be that those changes to the app aren't touching the system partition at all and are stored to the data partition instead.
Don't hit me if this isn't the case.
Hi everyone ,Before realize debloat system app like Google maps , youtube, etc will be a problem to apply new OTA , i uninstall some ones with "3C toolbox" making backup before , after that i restore the backups.
The question is , i am ok for apply future OTAs?.
Thanks.
Txatxiquesi said:
Hi everyone ,Before realize debloat system app like Google maps , youtube, etc will be a problem to apply new OTA , i uninstall some ones with "3C toolbox" making backup before , after that i restore the backups.
The question is , i am ok for apply future OTAs?.
Thanks.
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Probably restoring backups of uninstalled apps isn't enough to be OTA ready, better just disable/freeze system stuff. You won't get free space fo to use after uninstalling anyways.
thorin0815 said:
Probably restoring backups of uninstalled apps isn't enough to be OTA ready, better just disable/freeze system stuff. You won't get free space fo to use after uninstalling anyways.
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Ok, thanks , and now what i should do to be OTA ready?.
Txatxiquesi said:
Ok, thanks , and now what i should do to be OTA ready?.
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Reflash system_a and system_b partitions via fastboot.
thorin0815 said:
You can uninstall non wanted stuff with the help of ADB without the need of rooting your phone. It doesn't get uninstalled for real, but hidden for the main user profile. Those apps can't run but OTA isn't a problem.
Check it out:
https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
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@adriakus
You can remove carrier services if you removed Google Messages aswell.
"In a nutshell, the Carrier Services app is intended to allow your smart phone to take full advantage of a technology called Rich Communications Services, or RCS.
RCS allows for extra features in the Android Messaging app. The thing is most carriers have their own methods of supporting RCS in place so Google’s app is often redundant."
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Have you try to safely uninstall Feedback app? Really don't need it and i'd like to uninstall it without ota's issues
I've uninstalled the Feedback app and received the july's OTA without issues.
I've used this app: https://github.com/Saki-EU/XiaomiADBFastbootTools
Akbhar said:
I've uninstalled the Feedback app and received the july's OTA without issues.
I've used this app: https://github.com/Saki-EU/XiaomiADBFastbootTools
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Ty so much,i've had a quick look and it seems promising.Not so happy about Java,it's needed,but if you promise me you didn't have OTA issues i'll surely use it for my purposes.
physwizz Debloater v2 Mediatek
With physwizz-2 app
OneUI 2.0 or 3.1
I'm using a very unusual method.
I replace the apps with a blank apk file.
Installation
Backup system
Install from TWRP
If you find you want to get one of the apps back just restore the system backup
Then use zarchiver to remove the apk from my Debloater.
Then reinstall it.
@physwizz
Magisk-module for debloating
physwizz debloat module v2
(Added a70 changes)
With physwizz-2 app
Magisk module to debloat any Samsung phone to remove all the apps that slow down the phone
To debloat:
Install the module from Magisk and reboot.
To rebloat:
delete the module in Magisk and reboot
@physwizz
You don't need even root to debloat. It can be done by running an elevated command and disabling the applications.
I've been using Package Disabler for years.
Very valuable for troubleshooting. It can also completely clear system app data that you can't normally completely delete in app settings.
jaskiratsingh said:
You don't need even root to debloat. It can be done by running an elevated command and disabling the applications.
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Yes.
This can be done quite easily but it can be a long and difficult process for less experienced users.
Firstly you need to make a list of which apps can be safely deleted (I found 72)
Then spend an hour or more deleting them manually.
physwizz said:
Yes.
This can be done quite easily but it can be a long and difficult process for less experienced users.
Firstly you need to make a list of which apps can be safely deleted (I found 72)
Then spend an hour or more deleting them manually.
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The problem with doing that is there are some apps you'll want to be able to toggle on/off easily on the fly.
Most don't even know exactly what all they're disabling... what could go wrong?
blackhawk said:
The problem with doing that is there are some apps you'll want to be able to toggle on/off easily on the fly.
Most don't even know exactly what all they're disabling... what could go wrong?
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Yeah.
Most of the apps I delete are hidden system apps that are not needed at all.
They're not in the apps drawer so I wouldn't be turning then on and off.
physwizz said:
Yeah.
Most of the apps I delete are hidden system apps that are not needed at all
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A sample of some of mine. Some are worthless, some just resting.
This app also allows direct internet searches for the app in question. I play around here when bored sometimes.
Disabled the wrong package and a boot loop could be the reward. There's a couple apps I never touch.
Lol, little Bixby is the first to go
blackhawk said:
A sample of some of mine. Some are worthless, some just resting.
This app also allows direct internet searches for the app in question. I play around here when bored sometimes.
Disabled the wrong package and a boot loop could be the reward. There's a couple apps I never touch.
Lol, little Bixby is the first to go
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My debloat list