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So, we all know what the Oppo N3's main feature is, the motorized swivel camera! The high quality optics involved should give great quality snaps, plus with the swivel feature, selfies will never look so good (results may vary with operator:laugh So will this rather niche feature attract anybody? Or is the fear of the mechanism failing more of a concern?
Who's going to be picking up the Oppo N3, and why?
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Has it been released yet? Does anybody have info if it will work with tmobile USA and how to get it in the states?
I'm thinking of getting this or the N1. But my main concern is if either of them will work w/ T-Mobile USA
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Very much interested and think available through Oppomart
As someone who has gone back and forth between android and iPhones over the years, although the iPhone 6 Plus has become my go-to phone since its release, I want to pack an Android phone as well as I still miss the sharing between apps that works so much better on Android despite Apple's attempts to catch up. That being said, there is no doubt after having an HTC One and Moto Droid Maxx, that the iPhone 6 Plus still has a better camera than most. That's why this Oppo intrigues me...a chance for a solidly built phone with what SOUNDS like a great or at least intriguing camera. Other intriguing features for me are that it has the option to have two SIM cards (or one SIM and an SD Card if willing to give up the nanoSIM slot) and the rapid charge to 75% in 30 minutes. My hold off is knowing whether it will work on Verizon in the US...it LOOKS like it has the right bands for that but I've noticed other world unlocked phones that can't do both voice and data.
So, my decision is down to this Oppo N3 or seeing if the Nexus 6 in 64Gb ever appears again in the Google Play store for the pure Google experience...though not sure how key that is given that we can custom ROM almost any phone.
Anyone else thinking of the Oppo N3?
Got one in China. Camera is pretty good at the first glance. 2 SIM-Cards. ColorOS working pretty fast and smooth. But no Google Apps in Chinese verison, and only Chinese and English languages. Many preinstalled apps chinese only. Good grip. Speakers are loud enough. 39k+ points in AnTuTu.
But can Google Play services be installed?
Are you able to install Google Play services and then install all your Google apps? Or is Color like Amazon's Fire OS and a closed system?
Anilexis said:
Got one in China. Camera is pretty good at the first glance. 2 SIM-Cards. ColorOS working pretty fast and smooth. But no Google Apps in Chinese verison, and only Chinese and English languages. Many preinstalled apps chinese only. Good grip. Speakers are loud enough. 39k+ points in AnTuTu.
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I can install Google Play .apk but it doesn't start. And I can't flash GApps because there is currently no custom recovery for N3. But I don't have much understanding of flashing so maybe I'm doing something wrong. People was able to flash it on N1 with ColorOS, so I am just waiting for international ROM or custom recovery or cyanogen mod to do it.
Thinking that it's a North American version that is shipping now
Perhaps it's a different ROM shipping with this to North America and maybe it's Play Services compatible? You said you bought yours in China? Hoping someone else might know the answer but might need to post in a different thread since this one is just an "are you buying this or not" thread and not a technical one.
Anilexis said:
I can install Google Play .apk but it doesn't start. And I can't flash GApps because there is currently no custom recovery for N3. But I don't have much understanding of flashing so maybe I'm doing something wrong. People was able to flash it on N1 with ColorOS, so I am just waiting for international ROM or custom recovery or cyanogen mod to do it.
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It must be Chinese variant only, because they have their own apps market. I just bought it because it was cheap and available.
Sorry, I don't know if this is correct thread to post it, just want to share my photo impressions. I did a comparison between Oppo N3 and LG G2 cameras. Overall I think N3 is a somewhat better camera. Here is one pair of photo in low-light conditions.
LG G2
Oppo N3
Definitely interested in getting this phone as soon as it becomes available to the UK, need something to replace my aging Droid 4. Things that attracted me:
The camera, obviously:
The dual-SIM feature, meaning I can stop using the bloody awful Blackberry Curve that work gave me, a phone so terrible I'd rather have a Nokia dumbphone from the 90s.
Concerns I have:
The comments in this thread about no GApps - though I'm guessing this is for the Chinese version due to local app stores, government censorship etc.
Will they do it in any colours other than white, or do I have to paint it? (I hate white phones)
Will a "selfie phone" attract many developers and get root and decent ROMs
Lollipop upgrade?
Availability of accessories - I really need a keyboard slider case.
And I still hope for an official CyanogenMod release like with N1.
There is a new review http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Oppo-N3-review_id3883 and they have Google Play on their phone.
Now showing on the European site but still no release date or pre-order
Price is €549 which works out at about £430.
http://europe.oppostyle.com/n3/
I saw this device for 150$
Is that true or not? What do you think 'bout it?
PaulTehGreat said:
I saw this device for 150$
Is that true or not? What do you think 'bout it?
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Got a link to it?
General rule is if it looks too good to be true, it probably is, though I'm still curious.
Only way this is likely to be real is if it were a secondhand Chinese model that someone doesn't want. That would mean no GApps until the International ROM turns up.
I believe the N3 is easy to root (literally just flash SuperSU.zip with ADB) so you could sideload all your other apps, but not aware of anyone getting GApps to work yet (so no Maps, GMail, Play Store, Calendar etc.)
I still remain doubtful of Oppo and OPO. I had gotten the OPO a few months after its release but the touch screen issues threw me off. I know its unfair to judge Oppo by the same standards, but I doubt they could implement the quality of the Apples, Samsungs, HTCs and LGs of today. But this on Cyanogenmod would def look appealing.
Lum_UK said:
I believe the N3 is easy to root (literally just flash SuperSU.zip with ADB) so you could sideload all your other apps, but not aware of anyone getting GApps to work yet (so no Maps, GMail, Play Store, Calendar etc.)
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Root process was a little different, but I flashed GApps too on my Chinesse N3. It's working.
Pre-order page is now up, supposedly shipping mid-January. £5 says it won't arrive at mine until the week I'm away on a business trip.
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Root process was a little different, but I flashed GApps too on my Chinesse N3. It's working.
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Care to share the rooting process? I don't intend for mine to remain stock for long
Edit: Think I found it, was it this app?
Lum_UK said:
Care to share the rooting process? I don't intend for mine to remain stock for long
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I used Kingroot from this page http://www.oppomobile.vn/forum/t/oppo-n3-root-recovery-gapps-tat-ca-o-day.13328/
Anilexis said:
I used Kingroot from this page http://www.oppomobile.vn/forum/t/oppo-n3-root-recovery-gapps-tat-ca-o-day.13328/
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I found mention of kingroot on a random Chinese rooting video with only 13 views, so looks like that is the one to go for.
I have a feeling that I will be visiting Google Translate a lot in the few weeks after this phone arrives. If no-one has already done so by then I'll be sure to post English instructions in here once I get it working.
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Hi,
Just bought my Galaxy Nexus today, i'm coming from a Xperia Arc, best phone i ever had, but outdated specs for nowadays (except for the camera).
Just 15 minutes using the phone i noticed the gray bands on the screen. First i thought it was a problem with my device and i even called the shop to ask for a replacement, but searching later i saw it was a general problem, related to the S amoled screen. I was shocked, how a flagship and expensive phone could have so primary problem ?
Anyway, i already sold my Arc, so i started to look for workarounds ; if the problem is only in gray colors, i will try to avoid. Unfortunately, ICS plague G. Nexus owners with ALL google apps with the infamous gray background, so now everytime i open any google app, i remember my device has a faulty screen.
So i searched in settings to change the background color to a dark theme ; in my Arc with Android 2.3.3 this was simple. Again i've been frustrated : no option to change it and searching in this forum now i know that simply change google app's background needs to root, unlock bootloader and flash a new rom ; i've done this before in other devices but i know it's not an easy task , often leading to problems.
So far, i'm VERY disappointed. If i could go back in time, i would sticky with my Arc until another really good option shows up. I live in Brazil and flagships phones take a long time to be available here and are VERY expensive.
Anyway, SHAME on you google and Samsung. Being a Android fan since i left my N97, i'm really disappointed now.
Follow the link to solve your problem.
http://bit.ly/8y7VtE
Thanks, that's really the only way
Its insanely easy to root a nexus compared to all other phones. Just type one command. They do it purposely since its a dev phone.
zeekiz said:
Follow the link to solve your problem.
http://bit.ly/8y7VtE
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Hahahahahaha
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thefunkyjoint said:
Thanks, that's really the only way
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try screen adjuster from pstore or install a custom rom/kernel and use the color control
you own a google phone, you can do anything with it
adb backup - backup your data, if you care about it (unlock erases everything)
fastboot unlock
fastboot boot path-to-insecure-boot.img
fastboot flash recovery path-to-clockworkmod.img
adb restore - if you did backup anything
There. Or use the GNex toolkit, does all of this for you expect backup.
@thefunkyjoint. Do what the guys are telling you and root the phone. Run aokp , liquid ics , gummy or any of the popular custom roms. Your opinion of this phone will change a lot. Plain and simple the phone becomes flawless .
"the relentless pursuit of the perfect rom" now on the gnex
laureanop said:
@thefunkyjoint. Do what the guys are telling you and root the phone. Run aokp , liquid ics , gummy or any of the popular custom roms. Your opinion of this phone will change a lot. Plain and simple the phone becomes flawless .
"the relentless pursuit of the perfect rom" now on the gnex
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Yeah Bro the Xperia arc was a piece of crap the specs were outdated when it came out. I had it for 3 weeks and then I sold it for the sgs2. Actually the only good thing the Xperia arc had was a good camera that I'll admit. I have no idea what gray lines you're talking about but there is a colour control function in franco kernel, combine it with AOKP and you got a lean mean android machine.
thefunkyjoint said:
Hi,
Just bought my Galaxy Nexus today, i'm coming from a Xperia Arc, best phone i ever had, but outdated specs for nowadays (except for the camera).
Just 15 minutes using the phone i noticed the gray bands on the screen. First i thought it was a problem with my device and i even called the shop to ask for a replacement, but searching later i saw it was a general problem, related to the S amoled screen. I was shocked, how a flagship and expensive phone could have so primary problem ?
Anyway, i already sold my Arc, so i started to look for workarounds ; if the problem is only in gray colors, i will try to avoid. Unfortunately, ICS plague G. Nexus owners with ALL google apps with the infamous gray background, so now everytime i open any google app, i remember my device has a faulty screen.
So i searched in settings to change the background color to a dark theme ; in my Arc with Android 2.3.3 this was simple. Again i've been frustrated : no option to change it and searching in this forum now i know that simply change google app's background needs to root, unlock bootloader and flash a new rom ; i've done this before in other devices but i know it's not an easy task , often leading to problems.
So far, i'm VERY disappointed. If i could go back in time, i would sticky with my Arc until another really good option shows up. I live in Brazil and flagships phones take a long time to be available here and are VERY expensive.
Anyway, SHAME on you google and Samsung. Being a Android fan since i left my N97, i'm really disappointed now.
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I would return your phone. Your screen is defective. You should not have gray bands on the screen. Mine certainly doesn't.
RogerPodacter said:
Its insanely easy to root a nexus compared to all other phones. Just type one command. They do it purposely since its a dev phone.
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Off topic, but I found this kind of funny. On my Eris I downloaded an app from the market and was rooted in one click. On my nexus I had to hook it up to my computer, install a ton of software, spend a bunch of time searching the Internet for the steps people left out, edit some configuration files, and wipe the phone.
Easy, maybe for the devs, but for your average user, no.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
This is the problem i'm talking about the graylines :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391509&page=20
Lot of users have it, lot of them return the phone and receive a new one with the same problem.
T-Keith said:
Off topic, but I found this kind of funny. On my Eris I downloaded an app from the market and was rooted in one click. On my nexus I had to hook it up to my computer, install a ton of software, spend a bunch of time searching the Internet for the steps people left out, edit some configuration files, and wipe the phone.
Easy, maybe for the devs, but for your average user, no.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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Translation:
On my Eris, someone held my hand and packaged an exploit for me.
On my Nexus I had to learn how to do it the right way.
Side note: For those of us who took the time to learn the right way all along, rooting this took as much time as it did for you to download an apk on your Eris.
thefunkyjoint said:
This is the problem i'm talking about the graylines :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391509&page=20
Lot of users have it, lot of them return the phone and receive a new one with the same problem.
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T-Keith said:
Off topic, but I found this kind of funny. On my Eris I downloaded an app from the market and was rooted in one click. On my nexus I had to hook it up to my computer, install a ton of software, spend a bunch of time searching the Internet for the steps people left out, edit some configuration files, and wipe the phone.
Easy, maybe for the devs, but for your average user, no.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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Install PdaNet for drivers
Run a batch file to unlock bootloader (I concede you have to do a backup if you decided to root way after getting the phone, otherwise you can just accept it since market will auto redownload all your apps and your contacts are stored in the cloud anyway). There's countless sites describing how to unlock your g-nex, which if you look at the command(s), is very simple to understand even if you are technologically retarded...
Double click the batch file in Paul's superboot package
I managed to do this when I didn't really have a clue about my phone or Android. I'm sure anyone who can find their way here has the mental capacity to root their phone without a hitch.
And if by "your average user" you mean the people that don't understand that their phone runs Android -- well, they're not going to root their phone anyway so it doesn't matter.
adrynalyne said:
Welcome to amoled.
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Where did you get those button mods at?
spencer88 said:
Where did you get those button mods at?
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One of the devs on our team made them.
Its BAMF Paradigm 1.1.
My screen looks exactly like this one, posted by another member :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21902099&postcount=180
Is it supposed to be 'normal' in Amoled screens ?
adrynalyne said:
Welcome to amoled.
Amoled and gradients rarely play nicely.
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Looks great, how can i do it ? Is it a custom rom ?
zeekiz said:
Follow the link to solve your problem.
http://bit.ly/8y7VtE
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Haha nice!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2514250
Even if we don't get the official update Kitkat will work in our phones. I am running the AOSP build and it works fine. The only issue by now is the camera autofocus, it works in the first time after a reboot and the pictures that I got are way better than the camera of the LG stock ROM, when I close the camera and open it again the autofocus doesn't work. As soon as the developers fix the autofocus issue the AOSP build will be perfect.
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This is the international LGOG forum, not the AT&T....
tdmsilvino said:
Even if we don't get the official update Kitkat will work in our phones. I am running the AOSP build and it works fine. The only issue by now is the camera autofocus, it works in the first time after a reboot and the pictures that I got are way better than the camera of the LG stock ROM, when I close the camera and open it again the autofocus doesn't work. As soon as the developers fix the autofocus issue the AOSP build will be perfect.
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Any other issues from that rom?
rimsilva said:
This is the international LGOG forum, not the AT&T....
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But I think it's same..
zqchin74 said:
Any other issues from that rom?
But I think it's same..
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It's not the same, International E975 has 13mpx camera, thus uses other kernel, E970 is only sold in US...
zqchin74 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2514250
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hehe... it will be my last lg phone than.
seniga1 said:
It's not the same, International E975 has 13mpx camera, thus uses other kernel, E970 is only sold in US...
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True, but the point is that the 4.4 build by Houstonn can also be used successfully on Canadian and international models. As I understand from the original thread, you can also get a 13MP camera working. I haven't tried that ROM, and have no intention to try it at this time, so I can't comment on how well it works, but people seem to be happy with it...
kt-Froggy said:
True, but the point is that the 4.4 build by Houstonn can also be used successfully on Canadian and international models. As I understand from the original thread, you can also get a 13MP camera working. I haven't tried that ROM, and have no intention to try it at this time, so I can't comment on how well it works, but people seem to be happy with it...
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It works very well. To get 13mp just use focal camera. Theres no bugs for me. Only the autofocus.... Besides that its very stable!
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If they don't bring 4.4 to Optimus G, I will NEVER EVER BUY any LG device REGARDLESS of it being a Nexus device, or a smartphone. I will NEVER EVER TOUCH any LG device ONCE AGAIN. Even if they fix their problems with the UPDATES.
You're right. If galaxy s3 got 4.3 already and it will get 4.4 and xperia z have 4.4 official announced by sony... f**k lg. they are the worst at this. i planned to buy a nexus 5... but i won't because i hate lg. so my next phone will be the galaxy s5 or the next htc ... we'll see in 3,4 months.
for sure.. i will buy the first nexus that will be released by another producer than lg.
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You're right. If galaxy s3 got 4.3 already and it will get 4.4 and xperia z have 4.4 official announced by sony... f**k lg. they are the worst at this. i planned to buy a nexus 5... but i won't because i hate lg. so my next phone will be the galaxy s5 or the next htc ... we'll see in 3,4 months.
for sure.. i will buy the first nexus that will be released by another producer than lg.
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that not gonna change anything LG is sucks for software support and everybody on this planet need to boycott them, to change something. LGOG is perfect phone but it need update, that say also gsmarena, but LG does not care to customers
And then it starts again...
People hiiting the roof and getting on the boycott train when the slightest rumor of lack of an update is popping up...
If the official update are so important for you, you should get a Nexus or an iPhone...
Don't get me wrong, I'd realy like an OEM kit kat rom but if they don't provide any, I'll just install a custom rom and be done with it...
And my next will, for sure, be a Nexus device!
yes, i like stock too
but 4.1.2 make our great G OLD!!!!!
i like lg ui, but our ui on g is not finished, this 5 qslide apps are a joke....
who will start a petition and share it in all Forums (att, sprint, canadia, domcon) and all land-forums (france, china, brasil, german,....) ??????????
and all LG Forum!! its a theme, wich goes to all LG user!
LG G2 and all newer phone must do a petition!!!!
How can LG be so dumb?
f*ck LG )
I am an indian user of LG and today i got a software update available pop up.. eagerly i updated and seen just a 61mb update which came with play games app. othr than that nothing changed. v10E to v10F after 6 months i m getting it. still LG cooking 4.1.2 means when they ll start 4.4 or even atleast 4.2 or 4.3 ????
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And then it starts again...
People hiiting the roof and getting on the boycott train when the slightest rumor of lack of an update is popping up...
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So true! Never ceases to amuse me.
<hang on, I'll be right back, just need to grab some popcorn...>
t1mman said:
And then it starts again...
People hiiting the roof and getting on the boycott train when the slightest rumor of lack of an update is popping up...
If the official update are so important for you, you should get a Nexus or an iPhone...
Don't get me wrong, I'd realy like an OEM kit kat rom but if they don't provide any, I'll just install a custom rom and be done with it...
And my next will, for sure, be a Nexus device!
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yeah but why i get so good phone performance if they don't want to support them with software? every single custom rom has some bug, and that why i don't want to use custom rom. Ok I support u for nexus or iphone but why LG give one rom update and than stop to support that phone? why S2 got from 2.3.6 to 4.1.2 update? why we can not get 4.4 or higher update? is that a problem or to much money to spend? I don't understand, if u have phenom x4 why to be on windows 98 when u can be on win 8 that is point of this story and LG is crap with updates. We only have 4.1.2, HTC one X have 4.2.2 now samsung gonna have 4.3 and we r still trapped with 4.1
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yeah but why i get so good phone performance if they don't want to support them with software? every single custom rom has some bug, and that why i don't want to use custom rom. Ok I support u for nexus or iphone but why LG give one rom update and than stop to support that phone? why S2 got from 2.3.6 to 4.1.2 update? why we can not get 4.4 or higher update? is that a problem or to much money to spend? I don't understand, if u have phenom x4 why to be on windows 98 when u can be on win 8 that is point of this story and LG is crap with updates. We only have 4.1.2, HTC one X have 4.2.2 now samsung gonna have 4.3 and we r still trapped with 4.1
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Do you expect me to answer to this?
First, I don't work for LG, I'm not gonna talk about reasons LGOG has or doesn't has updates. I did all that I could: Contact LG Support. If you are at least serious with your "demand", you should contact THEM first. Either trough the facebook page or over the support.
I am nonetheless deceived IF we don't have any more updates, but I've been deceived in the past so, once bitten, twice shy! But I don't EXPECT any company (from now on) other than Google or Apple to provide fast update. That's the reason I'm gonna get exclusively Nexus devices from now on.
As for the bugs on custom builts; even OEM builts will have bugs. It's how technology works... Nexus have bugs, iOs have bugs, nothing is "bug free". But, as far as CM10.2 is conscern, I have Bluetooth, wifi, sync, I haven't tryed NFC, but I beleive it works. I'm using CM10.2 as daily since a whyle and it's pretty much stable.
t1mman said:
Do you expect me to answer to this?
If you are at least serious with your "demand", you should contact THEM first. Either trough the facebook page or over the support.
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I already contacted them month ago, and they said that they don't know when will be any update for our phone, and they told me that if gonna be any update first will be 4.2.2
I contacted them few days again and same answer. Because of that my opinion is that they r suck with software support.
Do not think that I mock u or something like that, on the cotrary i support u for nexus or apple, but it is sucks to give 300 euro for phone without good software support. that is all my talk
I know we didn't get the first firmware update, that supposedly increased battery usage, performance etc, but maybe we get this one?
http://www.sammobile.com/2014/11/21/samsung-galaxy-note-4-getting-another-over-the-air-update/
That's for international phones and since we are not rooted and don't have custom recovery for AT&T we can't use it
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I'm sure you will see one shortly anyways for the gear vr . It was stated during oculus connect that a ota will have to roll out in front of the release. Which the release is scheduled for beginning of December. That is unless the update will only push if you have it connected to the VR. I guess only time will tell.
AT&T (who should have no involvement in device updates, but in this great country of ours, does) could do 1 of 3 things
1) Release the first update, then the second, then lollipop (least likely)
2) Release a combined update with both the first and second updates (possible, though unlikely, maybe this is why the didn't bother with the first one)
3) Don't release anything ecept Lollipop. Logically, it would contain any previous updates in the 5.0 build (most likely what will happen)
#3 seems to be the main choice. I can't understand why AT&T or any other carrier would spend a single cent on software and development. It doesn't seem to fit what they do. They can push in their bloatware without holding back on everything. Maybe they do stability testing, and ensuring it doesn't effect the network stability, which I would understand, but minor updates are way toooooo hard to trickle down from the manufacturer to the end user.
I was in bestbuy , all there phones are international. They all had a software update waiting. You couldn't stop it or force quit it, it was awesome. But with that said, the demo software security policy was making the update fall. Just about everyone of there note 4 was in endless full boot, try upgrade, restart.
I think I should asking, when does the AT&T Note 4 get Lollipop? Next Christmas in 2015?
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I was in bestbuy , all there phones are international. They all had a software update waiting. You couldn't stop it or force quit it, it was awesome. But with that said, the demo software security policy was making the update fall. Just about everyone of there note 4 was in endless full boot, try upgrade, restart.
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That IS awesome :laugh:
Yea I can't believe that situation with the gear vr needing a firmware update to work. If it's left to the carriers, a lot of early adopters may be stuck waiting. It doesn't work on any retail version of the phone right now, according to the oculus forums.
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AT&T (who should have no involvement in device updates, but in this great country of ours, does)
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Well, they like to test and quality the updates to make sure they don't enable features they don't allow or break their network. It's their network, so that's their right - as a free enterprise business in this great country we live in.
When you start your own billion dollar wireless network, you can approve updates however you see fit. Until then...
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Well, they like to test and quality the updates to make sure they don't enable features they don't allow or break their network. It's their network, so that's their right - as a free enterprise business in this great country we live in.
When you start your own billion dollar wireless network, you can approve updates however you see fit. Until then...
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Wow... a bit aggressive of a response (but thats the internet for ya). Not many people here defending the carriers.
The international devices are not managed in the same way. I certainly understand testing for their network, but I am sure that the international networks are not crashing from lack of testing. The system in the US is out of date. Few, would argue it. Google certainly seems to thing so, they are unbundling much of their software to avoid dealing with the carriers on updates. Other companies like HTC have also begun releasing their included software as separate apps that can be updated via google play. There are many threads throughout XDA that call for eliminating the carriers from the updates system. I see it happening at some point, though not soon.
I for one am not against their blocking root. I like root, I have rooted many devices, but hacking a device to put on their network that can break their network, or exploit their resources, is an understandable precaution, however, withholding a firmware update issued by the manufacturer that provides either improved usability of a device, or fixes for discovered flaws seems extremely anti consumer and wrong.
I am very pro business, I don't hate the carriers, I understand what they do, and why they do it. I just don't like this 1 thing about them. Simple. I still want to know why they waste any of their resources on holding back and doing whatever to the updates before rolling them out, if they roll them out at all. If I had a GPE device or a Nexus device, they don't block the upgrades. iPhone either. (and I seriously doubt much advanced testing gets done on them by the carriers)
That is a great point at the end. IPhone. For as big as they've gotten, they don't block updates. I know people will say there aren't as many device variants etc. But most times the updates are available and carriers or specific manufactures hold them back or never release them.
AT&T blocking carrier firmware updates? Do we have any proof of this, or are we only assuming? I have heard in times past, this is what Google did to market the Android OS to the major carriers to get leaway on Apple. To make this "new" OS very appealing. To gain leverage.
1: to the device manufacturers - a free OS (or very cheep) that can be skinned to their hearts content.
2: to the carriers - to have any software installed, and not removed by customers. To have any form of limitations implemented for the sake of their business model.
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I think I should asking, when does the AT&T Note 4 get Lollipop? Next Christmas in 2015?
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It is being tested as we speak. Lollipop is a drastic code revision so they unfortunately have to make sure the "added" apps function properly. I'd be very surprised if it wasn't being released before Christmas.
What do we have here on this new update. Hi gear VR.
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It is being tested as we speak. Lollipop is a drastic code revision so they unfortunately have to make sure the "added" apps function properly. I'd be very surprised if it wasn't being released before Christmas.
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Someone, somewhere (sorry, I don't remember exactly where) had a photo of the actual (allegedly) working document with time tables and status updates from Samsung for Lollipop. It listed the Note 4, but NOT the AT&T version as "Final Testing" due in "January 15"
However, the point of this conversation is that it won't be rolled out to the carriers at the same time as the Samsung responsibility models are. So that date means very little. Well, if history serves, I seriously doubt that AT&T will release it before Samsung releases the international versions.
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Well, they like to test and quality the updates to make sure they don't enable features they don't allow or break their network. It's their network, so that's their right - as a free enterprise business in this great country we live in.
When you start your own billion dollar wireless network, you can approve updates however you see fit. Until then...
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@JasonJoel I just have to say, after reading your posts on this thread and another, I am pretty sure you are an AT&T Corp spy sent to XDA to get info and spin positive feedback for the company lol Kidding #notkidding
Lol. I can see how one might think that. But, no.
I'm not saying I like any of AT&T policies, my only point is that they have every right to do it and run their company however they want. I get annoyed when people say a business should / shouldn't be allowed to do things - too socialist for my tastes.
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Lol. I can see how one might think that. But, no.
I'm not saying I like any of AT&T policies, my only point is that they have every right to do it and run their company however they want. I get annoyed when people say a business should / shouldn't be allowed to do things - too socialist for my tastes.
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Well said sir well said I agree with you overall on that.
This VR services **** better not be always running.
God damned ****ing bull**** censor. **** is the only word that's appropriate for VR.
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This VR services **** better not be always running.
God damned ****ing bull**** censor. **** is the only word that's appropriate for VR.
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Lol. Delete that ****e.
http://www.slashgear.com/galaxy-s6-...ollout-leaked-with-updated-schedule-25424189/
Oh good, will have to wait to February now. Samsung is getting much worse with it's updates!
Fake!
Maybe it's fake but it's 25 of January and still nothing from Samsung except the beta testing....
In my opinion, Samsung still developing the android 6.0 or probably will jump directly to 6.0.1.. Since the new version of android is very vital to the user, Samsung has to make sure the new one is better than the previous one. Remember a lot of issues when upgrading from KitKat to Lollipop such as overheat in Galaxy S5. It seems Samsung is avoid the same mistakes again. If the information is correct, we shall going to enjoy the update in couple weeks..
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In my opinion, Samsung still developing the android 6.0 or probably will jump directly to 6.0.1.. Since the new version of android is very vital to the user, Samsung has to make sure the new one is better than the previous one. Remember a lot of issues when upgrading from KitKat to Lollipop such as overheat in Galaxy S5. It seems Samsung is avoid the same mistakes again. If the information is correct, we shall going to enjoy the update in couple weeks..
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you do realize s6/edge already have 6.0.1 beta right? So we don't need your opinion on what samsung is developing, because we already know that and as for the "new one is better than the previous one" statement I must say it's total bull**** and please stop defending samsung like they're some kind of a saint. Difference between lollipop and marshmallow is way to insignificant for them to need 5 months or more to release an update for their flagship line that costs an arm and a leg. And checking the 6.0.1 beta on s6/e, there's not much changed.. plus they had how much time if we count the release of marshmallow beta? Their competition already updated their flagships AND last gen flagships.. my dads LG G3 and moms HTC M8 both have marshmallow, and YES they BOTH perform much better than they did on lollipop. Especially the M8, which now runs much smoother than my s6e+.
Don't get me wrong, I love the hardware of the phone, but software wise samsung is still terrible, PLUS they suck with updates.
Right now it really just looks like that they will stall with the update until S7 is announced or maybe even released... beacuse business reasons I guess.
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you do realize s6/edge already have 6.0.1 beta right? So we don't need your opinion on what samsung is developing, because we already know that and as for the "new one is better than the previous one" statement I must say it's total bull**** and please stop defending samsung like they're some kind of a saint. Difference between lollipop and marshmallow is way to insignificant for them to need 5 months or more to release an update for their flagship line that costs an arm and a leg. And checking the 6.0.1 beta on s6/e, there's not much changed.. plus they had how much time if we count the release of marshmallow beta? Their competition already updated their flagships AND last gen flagships.. my dads LG G3 and moms HTC M8 both have marshmallow, and YES they BOTH perform much better than they did on lollipop. Especially the M8, which now runs much smoother than my s6e+.
Don't get me wrong, I love the hardware of the phone, but software wise samsung is still terrible, PLUS they suck with updates.
Right now it really just looks like that they will stall with the update until S7 is announced or maybe even released... beacuse business reasons I guess.
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Just because of lack of updates comparing with the others doesn't means it comes bad.. Don't you realize that a lot of manufactures also have not applied marshmallow in their handset.. If you really want a quick update in your phone, then you can switch to another manufacture that give it like you just said. I don't defend samsung like a saint, but I am trying to be more realistic with the condition.
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Just because of lack of updates comparing with the others doesn't means it comes bad.. Don't you realize that a lot of manufactures also have not applied marshmallow in their handset.. If you really want a quick update in your phone, then you can switch to another manufacture that give it like you just said. I don't defend samsung like a saint, but I am trying to be more realistic with the condition.
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I know a lot of manufactures didn't update yet, but the main competition did, and samsung is just not giving enough effort into updating their software. I also completely understand that the majority of users simply don't care about updates, but why wouldn't they also please advanced users. I mean they could totally have released a beta update for the s6e+ and note 5 when they released it for s6/e and it would please me and all the other eager users, but now I feel punished for paying 300+ € over the s6. Even the S5 had some marhmallow "leaks".
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I know a lot of manufactures didn't update yet, but the main competition did, and samsung is just not giving enough effort into updating their software. I also completely understand that the majority of users simply don't care about updates, but why wouldn't they also please advanced users. I mean they could totally have released a beta update for the s6e+ and note 5 when they released it for s6/e and it would please me and all the other eager users, but now I feel punished for paying 300+ € over the s6. Even the S5 had some marhmallow "leaks".
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If you really want Fast updates then get Iphone or Nexus device next time. simple as that.
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If you really want Fast updates then get Iphone or Nexus device next time. simple as that.
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Wow, i can't speak for everyone but I would like the update so my phone will work properly. I have poor reception on my phone, i cant really talk on my phone, get good internet connection, and have issues sending messages. I was advised by my wireless carrier and samsung, that the Marshmallow update would correct said problems. So maybe if they sold phones that worked properly out of the box, some of us wouldn't be crying for updates
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If you really want Fast updates then get Iphone or Nexus device next time. simple as that.
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I would if nexus 6p would have been released by the time I was buying the phone. Actually it's still not available in Slovenia, only 5x is, 6p is coming end of January/early February, and yes, I am considering switching with someone 1 for 1 for a nexus 6p when they will be available, even if it's 250€ cheaper. And I don't really consider it being "fast updates" for expecting an update 5 months after the release of the software by google.
Funny thing is that I'm arguing about software updates on xda forums.. correct me, but no one is developing hardware on this forum or are they?
Its ready when it ready. Having seen the beta on the S6 I dont think we are missing much, its almost exactly the same.
Im never in a big hurry to get Android updates, a new version is always buggy for at least 3 to 4 months anyway, and as yet there has been no real bug fix for 6. After being burned by Googles own devices on every launch version since 4.2, I'm happy to wait for Google to fix its mess before Samsung jump on it.
Much of the reason why OEM devices are slower to update is that Android contains a lot of bugs, which the OEMs want to minimise before they release. Google dont care so much about the Nexus, if its buggy its buggy, the OEMs dont want that though.
it's all BS.... This is my last Samsung phone. They have no respect at all for their costumers. I hope hope the Dutch law suit against them , screws them where they deserve.
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Its ready when it ready. Having seen the beta on the S6 I dont think we are missing much, its almost exactly the same.
Im never in a big hurry to get Android updates, a new version is always buggy for at least 3 to 4 months anyway, and as yet there has been no real bug fix for 6. After being burned by Googles own devices on every launch version since 4.2, I'm happy to wait for Google to fix its mess before Samsung jump on it.
Much of the reason why OEM devices are slower to update is that Android contains a lot of bugs, which the OEMs want to minimise before they release. Google dont care so much about the Nexus, if its buggy its buggy, the OEMs dont want that though.
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Well said... People are always complaining about the delayed updates but if an update cames out with bugs they complain also... This makes me laugh... Aren't your phones working?
Before Lollipop was released everyone was complaining and when it cames out i saw a lot of them returning to KK... if you all say the difference is minimal so what's the hurry?
They need to slim down the touchwiz stuff which may speed up the update times
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It's a fake. Don't believe in Ss. I buy an s6e+ for 1000$ in my country and still now there's no update. I think i'm gonna go back to iphone for the ip 6+ @@
people going to be really upset when they find out theres not much different between 5.11 and 6.
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people going to be really upset when they find out theres not much different between 5.11 and 6.
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I only want Doze to save battery life, am not bothered about the other Android 6 features.
if samsung make there UI skin more like iOS then am happy to.
on my nexus 7 with marshmallow battery on standby is brill but screen time just normal
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Will this phone get rooted and or it's Bootloader unlocked? My vote is no considering the lack of success the devs had with the Note 5.
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its tough to say, as you mentioned, even the previous iteration of the note isn't rooted on Verizon (did not confirm that, just trusting you know what you're talking about lol) . However i believe the note 4 on Verizon did it root eventually (on retail that is, the dev version had root since day one for it) . Maybe some time in the note 7 being out the note 5 will get a reliable root method. Best thing to do is the hope for the best and expect the worst.
on a side note, when i had my dev edition note 4 it was upsetting due to the lack of Roms variety. I would look at the note 4 T-mobile forums and see it rooted and booming with choices of Roms. does anyone know, lets say in that case, if i had bought an unlocked T-mobile note 4 and activated it on verizon ( or if thats even possible), would i have been able to root and use those roms from the T-mobile forums?
** i dont mean to make little of the work Devs put in on Verizon roms (the ones i knew about before switching to a nexus 6p)
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its tough to say, as you mentioned, even the previous iteration of the note isn't rooted on Verizon (did not confirm that, just trusting you know what you're talking about lol) . However i believe the note 4 on Verizon did it root eventually (on retail that is, the dev version had root since day one for it) . Maybe some time in the note 7 being out the note 5 will get a reliable root method. Best thing to do is the hope for the best and expect the worst.
on a side note, when i had my dev edition note 4 it was upsetting due to the lack of Roms variety. I would look at the note 4 T-mobile forums and see it rooted and booming with choices of Roms. does anyone know, lets say in that case, if i had bought an unlocked T-mobile note 4 and activated it on verizon ( or if thats even possible), would i have been able to root and use those roms from the T-mobile forums?
** i dont mean to make little of the work Devs put in on Verizon roms (the ones i knew about before switching to a nexus 6p)
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I myself had the dev edition and though there was a lack of Roms I enjoyed the cm rom from hsbadr.. I myself prefer vanilla android over TW but have not found a replacement for the stylus of the spen to use with the nexus 6's
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I myself had the dev edition and though there was a lack of Roms I enjoyed the cm rom from hsbadr.. I myself prefer vanilla android over TW but have not found a replacement for the stylus of the spen to use with the nexus 6's
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I've always heard that Samsung was doing a lot better with TW in the note 5 , but the lack of SD card and removable battery left me salty. so it was the first time i deviated from the note line and decided to give pure stock a try. It very good but a little too boring for me at times. but the thing i will absolutely miss from the 6p is the fingerprint wake and unlock, it was so nice to be able to unlock and turn on the screen with just one gesture. Though on the flip side.. i've always wanted a phone that could survive water. though as i found out with wear watches, touchscreens dont respond well underwater lol. but in the note 7's case thats where the spen comes in handy.
anyways, im looking forward getting the note 7 in my hands and will be hoping theres a root method available in under 4 months lol.
I tested the note 5 for 14 days before I returned it. I threw on nova launcher and got the stock feel I was looking for I had android pay working which because of root never worked before. It was a solid device but I myself can't wait for next Thursday if it does come a day early.....
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I would think that the S7 Edge is a good barometer as to how likely root is for the Note 7. I see that they recently found a semblance of root with the Verizon S7 E, although without an unlocked bootloader. Given how popular the N7 is certain to be, you can bet that there will be very serious efforts devoted to rooting it.
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I would think that the S7 Edge is a good barometer as to how likely root is for the Note 7. I see that they recently found a semblance of root with the Verizon S7 E, although without an unlocked bootloader. Given how popular the N7 is certain to be, you can bet that there will be very serious efforts devoted to rooting it.
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On the s7 edge. Is the user able to run twrp or any other custom recovery and Xposed framework. Im on note 3 rooted but locked bootloader. Hoping to get note 7 and being able to run twrp and xposed framework and other great things.
No unlocked bootloader or TWRP on the Verizon S7E yet, but they are working on it. Xposed apparently can be flashed through Flashfire. I know from experience with a Samsung tablet that Knox presents problems with bootloader unlocks. I am now on the Nexus 6P and new innovative ways are in place now to allow root and Xposed without touching the system, so as to preserve Android Pay. One of the problems with tripping Knox that I see on the VS7E discussions is that it breaks Samsung Pay, so hopefully, work arounds similar to the system-less root on the 6P will be developed.
As time goes on and I get newer phones I lose interest in root capabilities. Honestly there is very little on my Nexus 6 that requires root. Many developers have gone to the trouble to make most of the good apps work without root. I give no cares about custom firmware anymore. It's always an exercise in patience as something is always broken, or you have to maintain the kernel and custom recovery and OS all separately. Make sure not to update your kernel version XXX unless you are on baseband YYY...... it's really exhausting..... I have had cell phones since cell phones existed. My first computer ran 4.7Mhz..... I'm really tired of chasing the next new thing. I've owned every Note except the Note 2 and Note 5 and on those years I had a Galaxy S model. Honestly the stock Samsung experience is good. Also most of the really useful SPen features and other features get broken once you root and rom and custom kernel and recovery and all that.... so, root or not. Whatever.
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Only reason I root is for hotspot. Went through my flashing faze. Lol.
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Root maybe, bootloader doubtful.
Either way if we get a U firmware, like we got with the S7 edge, and adaway, I'll be pretty happy with the device.
Do Verizon pre orders arrive early or on the launch date?
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Do Verizon pre orders arrive early or on the launch date?
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Yeah thats what I was wondering also, "expected ship date" does that mean we get it on that day or it ships from factory on that day. Gonna be a long week either way.
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Yeah thats what I was wondering also, "expected ship date" does that mean we get it on that day or it ships from factory on that day. Gonna be a long week either way.
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Yeah brother, when I got my s7 edge with two, I got it the week before launch
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Yeah thats what I was wondering also, "expected ship date" does that mean we get it on that day or it ships from factory on that day. Gonna be a long week either way.
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There is a thread dedicated to the topic but to answer the question yes it usually is a few days early
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There is a thread dedicated to the topic but to answer the question yes it usually is a few days early
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Where is the thread?
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Where is the thread?
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https://tapatalk.com/shareLink?url=...share_tid=3432815&share_fid=3793&share_type=t
Preorder status and updates
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https://tapatalk.com/shareLink?url=...share_tid=3432815&share_fid=3793&share_type=t
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I got a 404 error
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I got a 404 error
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-note-7/how-to/preorder-status-updates-t3432815
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You may get it and will lose Samsung Pay once rooted. Sure you want it? The only reason I want it is for non-provisioned tethering off my UDP but even then it'll be hard to sacrifice Samsung Pay. Guess that's why I keep my OG Droid Turbo around