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A question about Roms that have the "Hotspot Hack"

I don't know much about hotspot plans and I just got on Sprint about 5 months ago. I always thought if you had the hotspot added onto your plan that it was capped data?
So my question is how do Rom's have unlimited data when they have the "hotspot hack" on it? Does Sprint not care about the cap? Or is the Hotspot plan not even capped for those who pay for it?

You get 5GB data with sprint hot spot plan
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Well when you use the hot spot app it does a sign in process and I guess that's how Sprint tracks down how you're using the phones data. With the hot spot hack they removed that sign in process which let's us connect without any errors saying you don't have the service..
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So there is no need to pay for hot spot now?
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Danial723 said:
So there is no need to pay for hot spot now?
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Not if you're running the hot spot hack. I use it all the time to connect my laptop or tablet free
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RayTrue04 said:
Well when you use the hot spot app it does a sign in process and I guess that's how Sprint tracks down how you're using the phones data. With the hot spot hack they removed that sign in process which let's us connect without any errors saying you don't have the service..
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Thank you for clearing that up. Now I understand. I know there is no cap but I'm paranoid. Is there a certain GB I should stay under so I don't get on Sprint's radar or do they not care? Last month I used over 7GB of just 4G through tethering. My 3G usage wasn't bad.

Thank Me Later said:
Thank you for clearing that up. Now I understand. I know there is no cap but I'm paranoid. Is there a certain GB I should stay under so I don't get on Sprint's radar or do they not care? Last month I used over 7GB of just 4G through tethering. My 3G usage wasn't bad.
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Don't worry about usage. I'm pretty sure the hotspot hack just cuts Sprint out of the equation and doesn't ask them for verification when you start the app
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I'm not sure but I think the sprint hot spot is infrastructure mode, like a router, and wireless tether is ad hoc, like internet connection sharing on say a laptop.
Some wireless devices see ad hoc but not all. Some devices can be modified to see ad hoc. For example, my galaxy tab and the Motorola Xoom can't see it out of the box new. I had to replace the wpa_supplicant file on the tab with one that was modded for ad hoc networks.
On the other hand, infrastructure mode, everything wireless can see that. That's why infrastructure mode is preferred.

Thank Me Later said:
Thank you for clearing that up. Now I understand. I know there is no cap but I'm paranoid. Is there a certain GB I should stay under so I don't get on Sprint's radar or do they not care? Last month I used over 7GB of just 4G through tethering. My 3G usage wasn't bad.
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I just started using the hack and I blew thru 18GB. Haven't heard anything from Sprint. I got confirmation from other users who used more than me with no issue. I was just as paranoid when I started too lol
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I'm not sure but I think the sprint hot spot is infrastructure mode, like a router, and wireless tether is ad hoc, like internet connection sharing on say a laptop.
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That is correct
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thanks for all the replies. I appreciate it getting a better understanding of it all now

T mobile unlimited data?

I went with their unlimited 4g data plan yesterday they told me I couldn't use hotspot anymore. So now I need to know is that feature now blocked on UN rooted phones? Because I'm running a custom tw Rom and the hotspot still works
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You can use tethering aps from Google play market
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Yeah it should be blocked if you're unrooted. It should redirect you to a page asking if you want to add it to your plan (at least that's what it did for me), etc... I actually still had issues tethering when I went to a custom tw rom but when I finally switched over to a cm10 nightly I no longer had issues tethering.

silhouette004 said:
Yeah it should be blocked if you're unrooted. It should redirect you to a page asking if you want to add it to your plan (at least that's what it did for me), etc... I actually still had issues tethering when I went to a custom tw rom but when I finally switched over to a cm10 nightly I no longer had issues tethering.
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Same here.
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The t mobile hotspot app doesn't work it'll keep directing you back to atmo webpage.but there's an app in the market which does work just tested it. T-Mobile is now the **** bet not nobody say nothing bad about T-Mobile.
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Ayocuz said:
The t mobile hotspot app doesn't work it'll keep directing you back to atmo webpage.but there's an app in the market which does work just tested it. T-Mobile is now the **** bet not nobody say nothing bad about T-Mobile.
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Works for me
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I'm rooted on the stock rom using WiFi Tether which works great.

Chicago281 said:
I'm rooted on the stock rom using WiFi Tether which works great.
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Works for me.
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If you can't get past the redirect page when you are using hot spot try using firefox. I swear it works.

Chicago281 said:
I'm rooted on the stock rom using WiFi Tether which works great.
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has been working for me for days since I signed up for unlimited 4g data plan.

I always just used PDAnet. We had a storm come through the other day and knocked out my home internet for a couple days. I had PDAnet (that I downloaded from the PLAY store) and used it to watch Netflix. Worked like a charm. Root isn't even required.

So the consensus here is that even with the (no tether unlimited 4g) plan tethering still works just fine? Or someone said that you must use firefox on the tethered pc and another said that pda.net app must be used? I'm looking to save some money by switching from my 10gig data plan but need to know that it will still tether first.

the-Mike_D said:
So the consensus here is that even with the (no tether unlimited 4g) plan tethering still works just fine? Or someone said that you must use firefox on the tethered pc and another said that pda.net app must be used? I'm looking to save some money by switching from my 10gig data plan but need to know that it will still tether first.
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No one said you have to use anything. If you are rooted, tethering will work fine. You can't use the built-in tethering if you are not running a custom rom.

I too am considering the plan. Very interested to know the actual charges are at the end of billing cycle. Contracts usually have additional fees every month. That being said the cost of the plan sound really good. I am averaging about 10mb download with highs of 16mb with my no contract tmobile plan. It sucks on beachside but was kind of expecting that,can go from 100kb to 8mb down within a block or two. Might just be interference.
I would also like to know if calling mart credits can be added to the account or other providers credits work.Then I would actually be paying less than the price they are asking. About 5 percent less when i can find the codes that are still valid!
Please keep us posted everyone! Let us know if thier are any problems after tethering and how much are you tethering percentage wise daily. I want to cut out the cable and would just go to tethering for home if i can.
Also thinking that after sept 12th,tmobile may try to lure others into thier plans with free phones on that value plan,hope so,then can sell that phone(one s?) and get that Gnexus i been wanting to try .

jlczl said:
Same here.
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tethering to PC browsers is what sets it off. If yuo are going to tether to other phones or tablets, TMO wont make you pay for the service.

But that's not wireless
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[tethering issues] because of t-mobile's greediness

Okay so when I signed up my contract I was on a plan with unlimited Data. I'm never using more then 2 GB, I use the tethering so rarely and yesterday I turned it on because I needed to check something on one website and I got to T-Mobile Page saying that I have to update (wtf?) I already paid for my data, who are they to decide how and where I can use my data? They don't know what the heck they're doing.
I never had any issues like this before, I was tethering just fine and now they suddenly decided that I need to update my plan? Well hell no I'm not going to do it.
So let's pick this thing apart and figure out how to tether without going to their stupid - UPDATE ME page. Mofos what a lame thing they did, I'm so disappointed from T-Mobile right now. (Yea let's do it let's make a couple extra cashhhhhh, it wouldn't hurt rightt??)
I've read that it would work if I delete Tethering Manager or Tethering Provisions with Titanium Backup, I'm on official Stock ICS rooted / I deleted Tethering Provisions only because I don't have Tethering manager in my apps and still nothing - I'm still gething redirected.
I just want to mention that when I deleted Tethering provisions (I restarted the phone, the tethering worked for like 5 minutes and then stopped working again).
So anyone have any ideas how to stop them from screwing around with their clients?

You weren't aware the 2gb plan did not come with tethering? It's told to you when you choose the plan. 5gb and 10gb do, unlimited 4G does not, nor does 2gb.
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algorhythm said:
You weren't aware the 2gb plan did not come with tethering? It's told to you when you choose the plan. 5gb and 10gb do, unlimited 4G does not, nor does 2gb.
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Yeah, it says it anywhere you look at plan info on the website.
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Tmobile blocks tethering from their end. To tether you'll need to use chrome as tmobile cant tell the difference from the mobile chrome browser.

Ok it doesn't metter I wasn't aware ok? So how do we fix it?

martybg said:
Ok it doesn't metter I wasn't aware ok? So how do we fix it?
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Add tethering.
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algorhythm said:
Add tethering.
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This is the easiest way to make sure it works 100%... You can have tethering working with chrome browser, and most other tablets or phones. Tmobile can't tell the difference. Anything else is hit or miss...

Instead of using the stock tethering option download a separate application for tethering. Although some of them are still blocked I have heard that using the clock work mod tethering app will work. I guess mainly because it uses an app on your phone and a client app on the computer.
But there are several apps out that will get around t Mobile blocking tethering. Just looking up and trying out..
Also if you use AOKP . the built in tethering works fine it might also be the same in cM 10 or even 9. I know this because I use the brand new fully unlimited 4 G Plan and I need full to tether just fine to my laptop without any extra applications.
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pottyvick said:
This is the easiest way to make sure it works 100%... You can have tethering working with chrome browser, and most other tablets or phones. Tmobile can't tell the difference. Anything else is hit or miss...
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I use chrome all the time and I get the tmo website. the reason you see the page now is because old tmobile sim cards takes a while for them to realize that you are tethering. as the new sim doesnt. tmobile probably already figured you were tethering.
you can also flash a custom rom and then you can tether that way

gypsy214 said:
I use chrome all the time and I get the tmo website. the reason you see the page now is because old tmobile sim cards takes a while for them to realize that you are tethering. as the new sim doesnt. tmobile probably already figured you were tethering.
you can also flash a custom rom and then you can tether that way
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I am on Jedi Mind Trick and tethering only works for me on chrome and my ps3 when using netflix or the youtube app... from what i've read tmobile is using user agent strings to block tethering... Meaning if you use IE then they know its a desktop and block it. They dont know the netflix im using is from the ps3... but again, thats what i read. I will try that fox wifi app i read about...

Tethering works on cm9 for me
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All of the above reply's are not correct I tried different ROMS and it still redirects me to their website, I tried outside applications too it doesn't work
and yes I tried the AOKP and CM 9 or 10 too, same thing

bmakk2055 said:
Tethering works on cm9 for me
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On a laptop/dektop with any browser or program?
And on the new unlimited plan?

pottyvick said:
On a laptop/dektop with any browser or program?
And on the new unlimited plan?
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How much does it cost the new unlimited plan, because right now when I get redirected it asks me to add tethering for $14.99, does that mean that I have to pay my $10 bucks for internet + $14.99 for tether?

martybg said:
How much does it cost the new unlimited plan, because right now when I get redirected it asks me to add tethering for $14.99, does that mean that I have to pay my $10 bucks for internet + $14.99 for tether?
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10 bucks? what data plan do you have?

martybg said:
All of the above reply's are not correct I tried different ROMS and it still redirects me to their website, I tried outside applications too it doesn't work
and yes I tried the AOKP and CM 9 or 10 too, same thing
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You must have missed my reply to add the tethering option to your plan
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algorhythm said:
You must have missed my reply to add the tethering option to your plan
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Its not needed.. only if you want to tether without any hassles...

Then you guys have missed my first post, I signed for unlimited internet in the beginning like I said my plan is old and who are they to tell me how I should use my internet? If that sound fair to you for me it doesn't!

martybg said:
Then you guys have missed my first post, I signed for unlimited internet in the beginning like I said my plan is old and who are they to tell me how I should use my internet? If that sound fair to you for me it doesn't!
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it doesnt state in the OP that you on the new unlimited plan. But either way, its Tmobiles network and they decide what to do with it. Without paying for tethering you will not be able to tether without issues from time to time. Try an app called foxfi, that might work...

martybg said:
who are they to tell me how I should use my internet?
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They are your provider. I don't agree with it but it is what it is.
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Free hotspot?

I was wondering if there was a way to get free personal hotspot service. I wss planning on paying for it (14.99/month) but I cant add it to my account it conflicts with the features in my plan... Is there anyway I can do this, without using pdanet or any other apps like that? Also I don't mind rooting my device. Thanks in advance!
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Conflicts with what features? There should be no issue adding hotspot to your plan even if you have unlimited everything. What plan are you on and what features do t ou have?
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You can't get Hotspot with the Unlimited Data Plan.

Thetenthdr said:
You can't get Hotspot with the Unlimited Data Plan.
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Ill check...I can see where you might not be able to...but if you pay...you should get...really you may be teathering wirelessly but then why do they call unlimited data unlimited if you cant add tge hotspot?
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chrishoyt2012 said:
Conflicts with what features? There should be no issue adding hotspot to your plan even if you have unlimited everything. What plan are you on and what features do t ou have?
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This is what happens when I try to add it.
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You cant have Unlimited 4G Data and HotSpot. You have to choose if you want a "capped" plan + HotSpot or Unlimited 4G Data. T-Mobile is here to make money, just like any other company, and from that perspective it simply wouldn't make sense to let customers tether and eat up as much data as they want while still keeping the second cheapest data plan.

chrishoyt2012 said:
Conflicts with what features? There should be no issue adding hotspot to your plan even if you have unlimited everything. What plan are you on and what features do t ou have?
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Actually with the unlimited plan they do not offer hotspot service, I had the same issue when I joined tmobile so I rooted my phone and cm10 or 10.1 all you have to do is turn it on and you are ready to go
If you don't want to root you phone there is a app called open garden that allows you to share you internet connection to any other device using Bluetooth (as long as the device has 4.0 or newer OS), I haven't played with it to much but consumes less batter and also allows you to share with a desktop / laptop PC
Give it a shot

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Oh... Didnt see that lol. Thanks.
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chibra said:
Actually with the unlimited plan they do not offer hotspot service, I had the same issue when I joined tmobile so I rooted my phone and cm10 or 10.1 all you have to do is turn it on and you are ready to go
If you don't want to root you phone there is a app called open garden that allows you to share you internet connection to any other device using Bluetooth (as long as the device has 4.0 or newer OS), I haven't played with it to much but consumes less batter and also allows you to share with a desktop / laptop PC
Give it a shot
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I'll check that app out. Thanks.
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T-mobile makes money...trust me on that...but unlimited means no data cap...which should mean infinite data usage...yet they always have that fine print thst zeros out "unlimited". Oh well.
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[Q] How to tether without tmobile finding out

I'm on the DARTHSTALKER S4 rom and i love it. Tethering works perfectly fine but when i use the mobile hotspot. I check my T Mobile account and it shows that I've been using the hotspot. Once I got to 400 MB T Mobile sent me a message to upgrade if i wanted to tether. Is there any way I can tether without being caught?

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I'm on the DARTHSTALKER S4 rom and i love it. Tethering works perfectly fine but when i use the mobile hotspot. I check my T Mobile account and it shows that I've been using the hotspot. Once I got to 400 MB T Mobile sent me a message to upgrade if i wanted to tether. Is there any way I can tether without being caught?
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Change your User Agent string on your computer.

how come i dont have that hotspot section in my app?

kanyewest said:
how come i dont have that hotspot section in my app?
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I dont have ot either. I installed mine off of the play store. I would like to figure out how to check my hotspot usage to help me figure out a work around
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Use Chrome browser
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Use Chrome browser
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Thanks for the suggestion
I just tried that. They still dont include hotspot usage. Very strange. I searched around on the websit from the pc for a while also. Cant find it any where.
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electricjelly said:
Thanks for the suggestion
I just tried that. They still dont include hotspot usage. Very strange. I searched around on the websit from the pc for a while also. Cant find it any where.
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That means that you don't have a tethering plan. If you can tether w/o the tethering plan then you should be fine.
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i think alot of the plans come with Tethering (but limited to the amount of data you get before throttling). Only one of the new plans (unlimited data) didnt have tethering built in in my recollection.

in addition to the already mentioned. i read in other threads that you need to use the toggle from the pulldown menu to activate hotspot, otherwise you get the upgrade screen. personally ive always only used the toggle from the pulldown to activate my tether and never received the upgrade screen.

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That means that you don't have a tethering plan. If you can tether w/o the tethering plan then you should be fine.
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I have an unlimited plan that includes tethering and i dont get that hotspot section in my app
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CM 10.1's native tethering app runs with no problems.

blackknightavalon said:
CM 10.1's native tethering app runs with no problems.
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no problem meaning that tmobile doesnt notice that you tether?

getiq said:
no problem meaning that tmobile doesnt notice that you tether?
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No, they don't notice.

blackknightavalon said:
No, they don't notice.
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If you are on the unlimited plan, or any plan that does NOT have tethering included, you will be noticed. You have a grace data allotment of i believe 200MB then you are shut off. There are ways around it and Google will tell you those ways

Why is everyone so concerned....
Theres a well known root tether setup for all galaxys called "trevemod tether" with a tutorial in the general sectio for many phones also requires using hot spot shield vpn app .So tether plan or not , you can get away with tethering the data u pay for to any device...
It hides and blocks what u tether to, thus making tmo think your just using a whole lot of extra bandwidth on your device
ROOT is required.
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Maybe it is just me, but does anyone else get irritated by people that want to steal bandwidth? Someone has to pay. Maybe people should pay for the features they desire.

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Thanks for the info

jcbofkc said:
Maybe it is just me, but does anyone else get irritated by people that want to steal bandwidth? Someone has to pay. Maybe people should pay for the features they desire.
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Absolutely... I'll make a reasonable effort to be reasonable... I called them and asked to pay for tethering to go with my unlimited data plan... so I can watch some netflix on my phone when I'm away on business. I figured an extra $30 would be fair. They don't offer anything like that... although... they charge $10/MB for roaming data in Canada, so... I won't die of guilt.
Besides, as I'm fond of saying... we can't all beat the system heh heh! :laugh::laugh::laugh: You're right... someone has to pay. Someone not smart enough to figure out how to get a discount. peace bro.

uhhh we already pay for the data service and the hardware and the os which has it built in. there's nothing to feel bad about. I've used 70gb data in a month with sprint and they didn't complain