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[Q] Having The Same Program Installed Twice

Hi guys, i was wondering if their is a way to have the same program twice on your phone?
Reason why i ask is because there is a program i have with a widget and that widget is configured with user name and password, now what i wanna do is have the same program installed twice so i can have the second widget on that second installed program, configured with a different user name and password.
Is this possible

Pretty sure that's a no, but I'd like to know if it is possible as it's be handy

Have you tried pulling the apk, changing the name with some apk editor (also the com.###.### stuff) and see if it installs next to the other app? I have no idea how to do this but it might work.

TheGhost1233 said:
Have you tried pulling the apk, changing the name with some apk editor (also the com.###.### stuff) and see if it installs next to the other app? I have no idea how to do this but it might work.
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yea i just tried this now, opened the apk file with winrar and i changed the com.###.### stuff in files AndroidManifest.xml and resources.arsc with a different directory and when i go open the app in my phone, it shows the apk is screwed
any other ideas

[Q] VeNuM ROM Question - Removed Apps

Hey guys, I just installed VeNuM's new ROM version, but I can't install the removed apk's. Any ideas?
Thanks.

Push them to the /system/apps folder and reboot
I use root explorer to do this
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That didn't work. Maybe I'm not reading it right. Could you expand for a newbie?

Which apps are you trying to install?
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You need to set the permissions too... after copying the apk to system/apps long click it and go to permissions and then set too: read/owner on, Group on, others on. Then Write/owner on (turning on by clicking the corresponding box). All the other boxes will be empty. Hit OK. This will make sense when you do it... Reboot phone... You should be good to go...

VeNum ROM Question
Again, sorry for being such a Noob here, but I really like this ROM and desparately want to use it.
So, you said to extract the APKs to the "system/app" folder. I didn't see it a "system or a App" folder, or I'm not in the right place. I am viewing the files structure via Root Explorer on my phone.
Thanks for the patience and the help.

All the basic Epic Touch apks. Weather, clock, gmail, etc.

Permissions
Ok, I found the files, placed the apks where you said to, changed the permissions as instructed, but the apk still will not install.
I'm trying to install the Samsung Weather apk. Some will install, but most of the original system apks won't.
Any clue?

[Q] Note 2 Gallery/Lockscreen wallpaper help

Had the bright idea to delete the stock gallery app while clearing bloatware. Unbeknownst to me, that was needed to set the lock screen wallpaper to anything other than the stock wallpapers. I use quickpic instead. Now I can't set a picture as the lock screen background (I can change wallpaper).
I've tried reinstalling the gallery, but when choosing to set the paper from the home screen, the gallery option does not show up. Is there a way to again associate the gallery, or an alternative app to do so?

SilveradoZ71 said:
Had the bright idea to delete the stock gallery app while clearing bloatware. Unbeknownst to me, that was needed to set the lock screen wallpaper to anything other than the stock wallpapers. I use quickpic instead. Now I can't set a picture as the lock screen background (I can change wallpaper).
I've tried reinstalling the gallery, but when choosing to set the paper from the home screen, the gallery option does not show up. Is there a way to again associate the gallery, or an alternative app to do so?
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I'm no expert, but have you restored gallery back to /system/app or did you just click on .apk and chose to install it? Because if you installed it, it went to /data/app - maybe that's the reason it does not function as it supposed to?
And second, try to run it as an app - see if it starts in first place, maybe there's something else missing. Perhaps you deleted odex file as well, and because of this it does not start?
Just did a little experiment - restored apk and odex files back to /system/app - and option to change wallpaper appeared again. No reboot needed.

Move gallery apk to system/app and set the permissions to rw-r-r aand reboot.

akp.ajinkya said:
Move gallery apk to system/app and set the permissions to rw-r-r aand reboot.
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I believe you both are right, as I just installed like normal. Noob issue though, when I go to copy and paste the apk into system/app, I get a permission denied message. I'm rooted of course and granted es file explorer su privileges, so I'm not sure why. Any suggestions?
Thanks for the help

SilveradoZ71 said:
I believe you both are right, as I just installed like normal. Noob issue though, when I go to copy and paste the apk into system/app, I get a permission denied message. I'm rooted of course and granted es file explorer su privileges, so I'm not sure why. Any suggestions?
Thanks for the help
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You need to remount /system as read-write, just like you did before removing apps (if you removed them manually). Go to your terminal emulator or use ./adb shell get superuser (by typing "su") and type: mount -o rw,remount /system
After that you can move files to*/system. Just don't forget to reboot or remount /system as read-only when done.

Root explorer allows pasting and permissions changing. I'm not sure I'm using the right apk. I had a nexus one that installed and worked (though not able to change lock screen). I uninstalled it, and installed 2 different versions of the Samsung app. It never gets recognized on the reboot like the nexus one did. I assume I'm using the wrong one. Any link to an official one? I am on 4.1.2 stock.
Thanks again

SilveradoZ71 said:
Root explorer allows pasting and permissions changing. I'm not sure I'm using the right apk. I had a nexus one that installed and worked (though not able to change lock screen). I uninstalled it, and installed 2 different versions of the Samsung app. It never gets recognized on the reboot like the nexus one did. I assume I'm using the wrong one. Any link to an official one? I am on 4.1.2 stock.
Thanks again
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I'm using 4.1.2 stock, so here are files from my /system/app:
http://ge.tt/11an8Gz
Sha256sum:
9f1a440e1aefb1bed74c0c8b0cdd0e462d24d70cad3da7063034db5f905f2d52 SecGallery2_Galaxy.apk
cf96394bcce1c1b07915265b953074d79960f530b4872770597f6cd4349ffd0e SecGallery2_Galaxy.odex
Good luck, and let me know if this helps.
P.S. Next time you clean you ROM, just move files to some location (for example your PC) Comes in handy later, I know that from my own painful experience

Userius said:
I'm using 4.1.2 stock, so here are files from my /system/app:
Sha256sum:
9f1a440e1aefb1bed74c0c8b0cdd0e462d24d70cad3da7063034db5f905f2d52 SecGallery2_Galaxy.apk
cf96394bcce1c1b07915265b953074d79960f530b4872770597f6cd4349ffd0e SecGallery2_Galaxy.odex
Good luck, and let me know if this helps.
P.S. Next time you clean you ROM, just move files to some location (for example your PC) Comes in handy later, I know that from my own painful experience
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Any specific way to install it all back? I put everything back in system/app and rebooted. Nothing changed, it's not installed, and Android didn't "Update Apps" on the reboot. I try to install it with package installer like any other app and that fails. I've tried your odex and mine (which was never deleted).
That's great advice!

Any way to copy file when not rooted?

Hello all
Forgive me for any ignorance for any part of this, kinda still learning the Android stuff.
Basically I got a Tab Pro 8.4 for Xmas, an like a lot of it, but really don't care for the huge Weather widget, or how it's designed. But I do want to stay with a Accuweather version.
My first learning of Android came from a Stratosphere II phone I have, an I kinda like that weather widget. Plus I think it would be a little smaller.
To mention, I rooted that device as it was pretty easy, (an way out of warranty), but I have yet to root the 8.4 as seems to be more complicated and I kinda almost don't want to unless I really have too as I really don't want to trip the Knox.
Anyway, so my goal here was to try the Strat's weather widget in the 8.4, so I went into the system folder of the Strat, got all the files that had to do with anything of the weather widget, copied them to my PC, put them in the doc's folder of the 8.4, and then tried to copy them to same system folder, which I was able to view with Root Explorer, but when I went to paste them in, it told me I couldn't as the device was not rooted.
So is there any way I can get these files into there?
Thanks for any help.

To write or modify with '/' or '/system' files you will need root, really anything outside of the /mnt/sdcard directory(s) are mostly read only or 'locked' with permissions to a certain user (each "app" is a separate user).
Anyways I don't see why you would need to put the file there anyways as you should be able to just install it as a normal "User" application regardless where it was installed on the other device, all you need is the .apk file from the other device then install it on the 8.4, you will first need to enable "unknown Sources" in Settings.
(First on device that has the app you want - look in "/system/app/" ," /system/priv-app/" - there should be some files with a ".apk" extension find the one for the weather app /widget you want to use, and copy it to your pc, then copy the file to the tab 8.4, click on it in a file manager such as root explorer or the one that came with the tablet, it should prompt you to enable Unknown Sources under settings , enable the option, then proceed to install it - you shouldn't need any other files besides the apk )
If it doesn't work then the apk could be coded to a certain device (as some Samsung apps are) or just too old to run on kitkat.
See my screenshots for some basic example (the apk file will probably be called something else on the other device)

Thanks so much otyg, you are always such a great help.
So just to reply a few things . . . yes, the files were in the system/apps folder from the original device. Second, when I first got the 8.4, I went through all the settings menus, an found that thing on "Unknown Sources" an clicked it, kinda remember that from something I learned with the smartphone, so knew right off to check that. Guess the only reason am mentioning, is to mention that I have been using a few Explorer apps, but none have promoted me for what you mentioned, an am guessing as it was already checked(?).
So at the moment I have the files sitting in a documents folder of the 8.4, but now to ask on those . . . when I went into the app folder of the org device, there were several files that had the accuweather in them.
First on this point, there were three that had the apk ext, an those were, AccuweatherDaemon.apk, AccuweatherWidget_Main.apk and, AccuweatherWidget.apk.
Then to mention too, each one had a corresponding worded file with a .odex ext.
So not knowing much, I copied all six.
So don't know if you could answer this, but do you have any idea of which I should install, or should I install all of them? An again just to remind, what I am looking for here is the Widget from my org device, but I do want it to work. Then one more question on this point, is there anyway to uninstall these if any cause some kind of issue?
Lastly an just to mention, as I posted, I don't know much about the Android system, so just didn't know that a .apk file is basically a install file. KInda thought they were application execution files, which I think they are(?) . . . but they can be app install files a well? Sorry to ask such a knob question as well as so many others, but is how I will learn.
Again, thanks so much for the help.

WBFAir said:
Thanks so much otyg, you are always such a great help.
So just to reply a few things . . . yes, the files were in the system/apps folder from the original device. Second, when I first got the 8.4, I went through all the settings menus, an found that thing on "Unknown Sources" an clicked it, kinda remember that from something I learned with the smartphone, so knew right off to check that. Guess the only reason am mentioning, is to mention that I have been using a few Explorer apps, but none have promoted me for what you mentioned, an am guessing as it was already checked(?).
So at the moment I have the files sitting in a documents folder of the 8.4, but now to ask on those . . . when I went into the app folder of the org device, there were several files that had the accuweather in them.
First on this point, there were three that had the apk ext, an those were, AccuweatherDaemon.apk, AccuweatherWidget_Main.apk and, AccuweatherWidget.apk.
Then to mention too, each one had a corresponding worded file with a .odex ext.
So not knowing much, I copied all six.
So don't know if you could answer this, but do you have any idea of which I should install, or should I install all of them? An again just to remind, what I am looking for here is the Widget from my org device, but I do want it to work. Then one more question on this point, is there anyway to uninstall these if any cause some kind of issue?
Lastly an just to mention, as I posted, I don't know much about the Android system, so just didn't know that a .apk file is basically a install file. KInda thought they were application execution files, which I think they are(?) . . . but they can be app install files a well? Sorry to ask such a knob question as well as so many others, but is how I will learn.
Again, thanks so much for the help.
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Apk files used for installing apps like an exe file on windows or a dmg on mac, when you install something from the play store it is delivered as an APK file but it just happens "behind the scenes" so to speak, you are just bypassing the play store and directly installing the app but it's the same process...
When you install a app this is what happens in most cases.
1. The APK(s) gets stored in /data/app/<applicationname.apk> (this will get removed on uninstall.)
2. it creates a unique directory under /data/data/<applicationname> (this will get removed on uninstall)
3. it can create a directory under /mnt/sdcard/Android/data/<applicationname> (these files usually get left behind on uninstall but since it's on the user storage the user can remove them, it usually contains settings or cache files)
You don't need the .odex files, these are encrypted and probably wont work on other devices, it's basically the apk optimized for the device so it starts faster.
Just install the 3 apk's, the widget probably needs the main program for support and the daemon service probably runs in the background for updates ..etc, since you are installing them as a normal user it won't do much harm and you can always remove them if they do cause an issue, Applications are self contained and when you remove them the corresponding data folders are removed too (on the device) so it is unlikely to do any lasting damage.
To remove them go to Settings -> General -> Application Manager -> Downloaded and remove the apps from there . (if you don't see them swipe right until you see All )

Thanks so much for the reply an the education otyg
Did just as you suggested, deleted the odex files an tapped on the apk's to install, an don't know for why, but while it seemed to go as normal, in the end, I got a message saying they did not install, for all three.
Replaced the odex's back an that didn't seem to make a dif.
Perhaps it didn't work as could not install as device is not rooted?
Just to mention, I did have something with my Strat II device back a few months ago, where I placed another version of a accuweather widget in the systems/app folder, an it did show up.
At any rate, was a good try an thanks again for all the info.
Perhaps if I can get this device rooted, I can try again by just putting the apps in the folder.

Android 6.0, install system apps

Does anyone know if there is a way to install apps manually?
I know in KitKat, you could place .apk's in the /system/app folder, or /data/app folder, restart, and have your apps installed. Just wondering if there's some method to achieve the same outcome in Marshmallow (i.e. Android 6.0).
I have some of the Samsung apps, like snote, that I would like to still use if possible. Any ideas of help are appreciated. Thanks.

palmaswildbill said:
Does anyone know if there is a way to install apps manually?
I know in KitKat, you could place .apk's in the /system/app folder, or /data/app folder, restart, and have your apps installed. Just wondering if there's some method to achieve the same outcome in Marshmallow (i.e. Android 6.0).
I have some of the Samsung apps, like snote, that I would like to still use if possible. Any ideas of help are appreciated. Thanks.
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You could always try it the same way. Just move the folder and apk files to system/app or system/priv-app and set the permissions like the rest of the folders and apps. The folders should be set to 0755 and the apk files to 0644. Then reboot to test the apps after that. I would recommend doing them one at a time to test them. Where did you get the apps from? It would be good to get a whole 6.0+ based ROM to make sure you put them in the correct path.
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ludeawakening said:
You could always try it the same way. Just move the folder and apk files to system/app or system/priv-app and set the permissions like the rest of the folders and apps. The folders should be set to 0755 and the apk files to 0644. Then reboot to test the apps after that. I would recommend doing them one at a time to test them. Where did you get the apps from? It would be good to get a whole 6.0+ based ROM to make sure you put them in the correct path.
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Thanks very much for your reply. Sorry I'm just getting back to this (after like 2 months), wasnt trying to be rude or unappreciative, just been busy.
I had extracted the apps from a couple of other roms, lollipop based. Its basically some of the samsung apps, for the note. Before upgrading to 6.0 I had a stock/rooted kitkat rom. I was used to using SNOTE for note taking, and liked the abiltiy to take 360° photos withe samsung camera surround effect. I realize that most people probably see these as bloatware, but I havent really seen anything comparable.