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[Q] Fresh EVO 3.5 FM Radio

Hello all! I rooted my EVO last month, and am running the Fresh EVO 3.5 ROM. The developer removed many of the OEM "apps" including the FM radio. (I use quotes, because things like the FM radio aren't just apps... it's part of the functionality of the phone, and without it, you're removing a capability of the phone.)
In order to get it back, I tried installing from the SD card where he stored all the removed apps, which the developer himself says wouldn't work. No surprise, it didn't work. "Application not installed"
I moved it to system/app and tried to install, whence I'm again told "Application not installed."
Downloaded the .apk (found by searching some forums), moved it into system/app and tried installing it with the same result ("Application not installed").
Tried using "AppInstaller" on the .apk, same result.
I'm frustrated that this ROM, while great in every other respect, has killed some of the functionality of my phone. If someone could help me get the FM radio back, I'd greatly appreciate it. Thank you!

Try flashing this file from your recovery the same way you installed the Fresh ROM. It will install the HTC FM Radio app in your system/app. Without a zip file like this you would normally need to use an application like Root Explorer.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3000044/FM_Radio-FreshEvo-3.5.0.1-02142011.zip
P.S. Even though this is the app section its more for developing and modifying apps. In the future you should post basic questions like this in the Q&A section.

Thanks for the help and advice.
Your .zip did install the FM radio and widget files to the system/app folder, but they still will not install. I get the same message as I did before.
Also, I have Root Explorer - that's how I moved the .apk to the system/app folder in my original attempt.

I posted a tweaked apk in flipz's thread a few month's back that should install for you, by flashing from recovery. You can give it a shot as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9989719&postcount=7252

here you go, just flash

I guess I am not sure what issue you are having. I am running Fresh with out FM radio installed. I was able to use root explorer to move the file to system/app, then set the permissions, and reboot and once I was back into the launcher I was able to use the HTC radio app which was not there before. After doing that I restored my backup to before having the radio app installed and tried again using the zip file I supplied, rebooted, and I was able to use the app.

^ And for some reason, I was not able to do the same. The file was in system/app, but it would not install.
Toxin715 - Worked beautifully! Thank you!
Out of curiosity, do you have anything similar for the radio widget? I get the "Application not installed" error with that, as well... it's not as big of a deal, though.

Mathman85 said:
The file was in system/app, but it would not install.
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If you have moved the apk to /system/app on your phone you do not need to install it, just reboot.

Mathman85 said:
^ And for some reason, I was not able to do the same. The file was in system/app, but it would not install.
Toxin715 - Worked beautifully! Thank you!
Out of curiosity, do you have anything similar for the radio widget? I get the "Application not installed" error with that, as well... it's not as big of a deal, though.
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No problem, glad to help. Um you also need the widget?

Toxin715 said:
No problem, glad to help. Um you also need the widget?
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Lol, that's my zip...

brandenk said:
If you have moved the apk to /system/app on your phone you do not need to install it, just reboot.
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If that had been the case, I would've never bothered trying to install it, because "FM Radio" would've shown up in my apps and I'd have been happy to post that the issue was resolved. After rebooting when I had moved it to system/app with Root Explorer, it was not in my apps list, so I tried to install it (to no avail). Even after flashing the .zip you posted (after which I had to reboot to get out of recovery), it was in system/app, but not in my apps list; when I clicked on it in Root Explorer, I was given the "Application not installed" error. Even after flashing the .zip that Toxin715 and JsChiSurf posted, it was in system/app, but not in my apps list - the difference here was that when I went into Root Explorer and clicked on it, it let me install it, so now that issue is resolved.
Similarly, the widget is in system/app, but I assure you that I am not able to use the widget (I was going to post screen shots, but since I'm a n00b, the forum won't let me).
Toxin715 - Yes, if you could provide insight (or a .zip) for the widget, I'd be extremely grateful.
JsChiSurf - Thank you! I now see that it's your .zip, I just happened to try it directly from what Toxin715 had posted, so I didn't realize it at the time. Out of curiosity, what made your .zip any different from the others that I've tried and had no success with?
And open question to all who are reading - why would the app not show in my apps list if it is installed in system/app? Could something have gone wrong during the install of my ROM that perhaps a re-flash might correct?

Here's what I did to get it to work (using Root Explorer):
1) Copied HTCFMRadio.apk from fresh-removed-apks folder on my SD card
2) Navigated to system/app folder and clicked on "Mount R/W" button to make folder writable.
3) Pasted HTCFMRadio.app file in the system/app folder
4) Modified the permissions to match the other apps (rw-r--r--)
5) Rebooted the phone
That worked perfectly for me. I didn't modify the permissions at first and wasn't able to view the app in my app drawer. After I modified the permissions and rebooted, the app showed up as installed and worked perfectly.

[Q] system/app folder

After reading a bunch of posts I recently discovered that I could open the zip files to a rom and get into the system/app folder and remove and replace the apps completely in this folder. So since I dont use twitter or facebook I removed them from this location and they vanished off my phone.
Are there any ramifications for messing around in here?
Can I preload apk's that I want into this folder before loading the Rom and have them installed upon boot up? Like putting the apk for Google Currents in there and when I load a new Rom Its there.
Thanks

Can anyone answer this question for me please?

joecr250r said:
After reading a bunch of posts I recently discovered that I could open the zip files to a rom and get into the system/app folder and remove and replace the apps completely in this folder. So since I dont use twitter or facebook I removed them from this location and they vanished off my phone.
Are there any ramifications for messing around in here?
Can I preload apk's that I want into this folder before loading the Rom and have them installed upon boot up? Like putting the apk for Google Currents in there and when I load a new Rom Its there.
Thanks
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i really dont see why not, just know that those then become ''system'' files. may cause issues with updating. i have heard of people who use calks rom (which has go launcher moved to system/apps) have troubles updating go launcher from the market. obviously youd have to edit the system/app folder every time you flashed a rom, even updates, or else it wouldnt match up right. seems like a major PITA to me

yes it does. Thanks for the input!
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[Q] Kyan Append Help

I am trying to install the Samsung stock e-mail app because I like the combined view for multiple accounts. I downloaded the kyanAPPEND secEmail to my S3's internal storage and installed with CWM. There were no errors everything appeared to install properly, however I can not find the app on my phone. What may I have done wrong?
Kyan's Blog just said the following kyanAPPEND's may be flashed in CWM.
Thanks

I'm assuming (since you didn't specify) you are rooted and using kyan's rom? Looking at the Secemail.zip its just a simple copy/paste flash which moves the contents of SecEmail.zip/system/app to the /system/app on your phone. Using the file explorer of your choice you can browse to the /system/app directory and look to see if the files did in fact get copied there. The files are as follows :
EdmSysScopeService.apk
EdmVpnServices.apk
EnterprisePermissions.apk
Exchange.apk
SecEmail.apk
Most of them are actually for the exchange email connector, however I am not sure if these are in any way required for the standard email push app to function properly so best to make sure they are all present. I also cannot be sure if there is anything that may be required missing from the package.

dntesinfrno said:
I'm assuming (since you didn't specify) you are rooted and using kyan's rom? Looking at the Secemail.zip its just a simple copy/paste flash which moves the contents of SecEmail.zip/system/app to the /system/app on your phone. Using the file explorer of your choice you can browse to the /system/app directory and look to see if the files did in fact get copied there. The files are as follows :
EdmSysScopeService.apk
EdmVpnServices.apk
EnterprisePermissions.apk
Exchange.apk
SecEmail.apk
Most of them are actually for the exchange email connector, however I am not sure if these are in any way required for the standard email push app to function properly so best to make sure they are all present. I also cannot be sure if there is anything that may be required missing from the package.
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Yes I am rooted and running Kyam's rom. And, yes all of the files are there. Do I need to make a icon short cut on one of my screens myself, if so how?
Thanks for your help.

If the apk's are in the /system/app folder then there should already be a 'shortcut' in the app drawer, making a shortcut to the apk itself would attempt to install the app. One other thing you can try is make sure you have 'unknown sources' checked in settings>security, unzip the SecEmail.zip and open each apk to manually to side load them. If this doesn't work then i would say there is a problem with the apk's.

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If the apk's are in the /system/app folder then there should already be a 'shortcut' in the app drawer, making a shortcut to the apk itself would attempt to install the app. One other thing you can try is make sure you have 'unknown sources' checked in settings>security, unzip the SecEmail.zip and open each apk to manually to side load them. If this doesn't work then i would say there is a problem with the apk's.
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I checked 'unknown sources' and re-installed from CWM and it worked. Thank you very much for all your help.

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Hancom

Hello
If anyone can help me- I'm running Magazine UX rom and ran a couple others like s tab for note. Anyway, I found the hancom office apk file in my root explorer, extracted them, moved them to system app folder corrected permissions, then installed. After doing so I cannot find it anywhere but back in root explorer. Can anyone tell me how to get this on a screen , open and finally use?
Thanks

Why go through the trouble of moving them into /system and setting permissions? Have you tried just installing them like normal apps?
Also, which APKs are you using? You need the shared component and the viewers and/or the editors.

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Why go through the trouble of moving them into /system and setting permissions? Have you tried just installing them like normal apps?
Also, which APKs are you using? You need the shared component and the viewers and/or the editors.
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Hi hopefully I can explain this correctly… I found all the hancom apk files in one pf the previpus roms (s tab) in the root explorer. I know that to get an apk to work, it has to be put in the system/app folder and the permissions have to be changed to rw rr or whatever it is to match all the others in the folder. After doing so, extracting all of them and trying to open, the only one that finally appeared in my apps was hancom office viewer. The other 4 had 'done' for an option buttom unlike the viewer which also had 'open'. When I hit the open buttom I get the touchwhiz error. Anyway, heres spme pictures- I am beginning to thinks its this magazine ux rom that Im using. What is your opinion of all this and what rom do you use?

Any way to copy file when not rooted?

Hello all
Forgive me for any ignorance for any part of this, kinda still learning the Android stuff.
Basically I got a Tab Pro 8.4 for Xmas, an like a lot of it, but really don't care for the huge Weather widget, or how it's designed. But I do want to stay with a Accuweather version.
My first learning of Android came from a Stratosphere II phone I have, an I kinda like that weather widget. Plus I think it would be a little smaller.
To mention, I rooted that device as it was pretty easy, (an way out of warranty), but I have yet to root the 8.4 as seems to be more complicated and I kinda almost don't want to unless I really have too as I really don't want to trip the Knox.
Anyway, so my goal here was to try the Strat's weather widget in the 8.4, so I went into the system folder of the Strat, got all the files that had to do with anything of the weather widget, copied them to my PC, put them in the doc's folder of the 8.4, and then tried to copy them to same system folder, which I was able to view with Root Explorer, but when I went to paste them in, it told me I couldn't as the device was not rooted.
So is there any way I can get these files into there?
Thanks for any help.

To write or modify with '/' or '/system' files you will need root, really anything outside of the /mnt/sdcard directory(s) are mostly read only or 'locked' with permissions to a certain user (each "app" is a separate user).
Anyways I don't see why you would need to put the file there anyways as you should be able to just install it as a normal "User" application regardless where it was installed on the other device, all you need is the .apk file from the other device then install it on the 8.4, you will first need to enable "unknown Sources" in Settings.
(First on device that has the app you want - look in "/system/app/" ," /system/priv-app/" - there should be some files with a ".apk" extension find the one for the weather app /widget you want to use, and copy it to your pc, then copy the file to the tab 8.4, click on it in a file manager such as root explorer or the one that came with the tablet, it should prompt you to enable Unknown Sources under settings , enable the option, then proceed to install it - you shouldn't need any other files besides the apk )
If it doesn't work then the apk could be coded to a certain device (as some Samsung apps are) or just too old to run on kitkat.
See my screenshots for some basic example (the apk file will probably be called something else on the other device)

Thanks so much otyg, you are always such a great help.
So just to reply a few things . . . yes, the files were in the system/apps folder from the original device. Second, when I first got the 8.4, I went through all the settings menus, an found that thing on "Unknown Sources" an clicked it, kinda remember that from something I learned with the smartphone, so knew right off to check that. Guess the only reason am mentioning, is to mention that I have been using a few Explorer apps, but none have promoted me for what you mentioned, an am guessing as it was already checked(?).
So at the moment I have the files sitting in a documents folder of the 8.4, but now to ask on those . . . when I went into the app folder of the org device, there were several files that had the accuweather in them.
First on this point, there were three that had the apk ext, an those were, AccuweatherDaemon.apk, AccuweatherWidget_Main.apk and, AccuweatherWidget.apk.
Then to mention too, each one had a corresponding worded file with a .odex ext.
So not knowing much, I copied all six.
So don't know if you could answer this, but do you have any idea of which I should install, or should I install all of them? An again just to remind, what I am looking for here is the Widget from my org device, but I do want it to work. Then one more question on this point, is there anyway to uninstall these if any cause some kind of issue?
Lastly an just to mention, as I posted, I don't know much about the Android system, so just didn't know that a .apk file is basically a install file. KInda thought they were application execution files, which I think they are(?) . . . but they can be app install files a well? Sorry to ask such a knob question as well as so many others, but is how I will learn.
Again, thanks so much for the help.

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Thanks so much otyg, you are always such a great help.
So just to reply a few things . . . yes, the files were in the system/apps folder from the original device. Second, when I first got the 8.4, I went through all the settings menus, an found that thing on "Unknown Sources" an clicked it, kinda remember that from something I learned with the smartphone, so knew right off to check that. Guess the only reason am mentioning, is to mention that I have been using a few Explorer apps, but none have promoted me for what you mentioned, an am guessing as it was already checked(?).
So at the moment I have the files sitting in a documents folder of the 8.4, but now to ask on those . . . when I went into the app folder of the org device, there were several files that had the accuweather in them.
First on this point, there were three that had the apk ext, an those were, AccuweatherDaemon.apk, AccuweatherWidget_Main.apk and, AccuweatherWidget.apk.
Then to mention too, each one had a corresponding worded file with a .odex ext.
So not knowing much, I copied all six.
So don't know if you could answer this, but do you have any idea of which I should install, or should I install all of them? An again just to remind, what I am looking for here is the Widget from my org device, but I do want it to work. Then one more question on this point, is there anyway to uninstall these if any cause some kind of issue?
Lastly an just to mention, as I posted, I don't know much about the Android system, so just didn't know that a .apk file is basically a install file. KInda thought they were application execution files, which I think they are(?) . . . but they can be app install files a well? Sorry to ask such a knob question as well as so many others, but is how I will learn.
Again, thanks so much for the help.
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Apk files used for installing apps like an exe file on windows or a dmg on mac, when you install something from the play store it is delivered as an APK file but it just happens "behind the scenes" so to speak, you are just bypassing the play store and directly installing the app but it's the same process...
When you install a app this is what happens in most cases.
1. The APK(s) gets stored in /data/app/<applicationname.apk> (this will get removed on uninstall.)
2. it creates a unique directory under /data/data/<applicationname> (this will get removed on uninstall)
3. it can create a directory under /mnt/sdcard/Android/data/<applicationname> (these files usually get left behind on uninstall but since it's on the user storage the user can remove them, it usually contains settings or cache files)
You don't need the .odex files, these are encrypted and probably wont work on other devices, it's basically the apk optimized for the device so it starts faster.
Just install the 3 apk's, the widget probably needs the main program for support and the daemon service probably runs in the background for updates ..etc, since you are installing them as a normal user it won't do much harm and you can always remove them if they do cause an issue, Applications are self contained and when you remove them the corresponding data folders are removed too (on the device) so it is unlikely to do any lasting damage.
To remove them go to Settings -> General -> Application Manager -> Downloaded and remove the apps from there . (if you don't see them swipe right until you see All )

Thanks so much for the reply an the education otyg
Did just as you suggested, deleted the odex files an tapped on the apk's to install, an don't know for why, but while it seemed to go as normal, in the end, I got a message saying they did not install, for all three.
Replaced the odex's back an that didn't seem to make a dif.
Perhaps it didn't work as could not install as device is not rooted?
Just to mention, I did have something with my Strat II device back a few months ago, where I placed another version of a accuweather widget in the systems/app folder, an it did show up.
At any rate, was a good try an thanks again for all the info.
Perhaps if I can get this device rooted, I can try again by just putting the apps in the folder.