So I was wondering if there is a way to set a variable to something, then change it dynamically based on an event. Here is an example of an end goal with what I mean. So you make a widget that shows the forecast and all items have some form of
[bo]$#TMU_ISPLAYING#=1?0:100$[/bo]
To hide if media is playing (when combined with media utilities). I would like to take this a bit further and say, if I have that same widget, a forecast widget and down in the corner is an icon, by clicking that icon(the event) it changes the value of a variable in zooper, and the widget can change based on that. Much like with the TMU_ISPLAYING, except with this, your click changes the variable and not an outside app. Does anyone know if this is possible at all, even just a very random workaround solution would be cool, I just want to be able to change a widget based on a click. Thanks in advance.
danwguy said:
So I was wondering if there is a way to set a variable to something, then change it dynamically based on an event. Here is an example of an end goal with what I mean. So you make a widget that shows the forecast and all items have some form of
[bo]$#TMU_ISPLAYING#=1?0:100$[/bo]
To hide if media is playing (when combined with media utilities). I would like to take this a bit further and say, if I have that same widget, a forecast widget and down in the corner is an icon, by clicking that icon(the event) it changes the value of a variable in zooper, and the widget can change based on that. Much like with the TMU_ISPLAYING, except with this, your click changes the variable and not an outside app. Does anyone know if this is possible at all, even just a very random workaround solution would be cool, I just want to be able to change a widget based on a click. Thanks in advance.
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This is possible with Tasker. Zooper has a built-in Tasker plugin so you can send data from Tasker to Zooper and I have used it for the same thing you are trying to do. If you are used to work with Tasker it's really easy to setup but if you are new to Tasker, it might take you a bit to figure it out. Here is a link on how this generally works: http://www.jagwar.de/en/zooper-tasker-variables/. To get you started, you can find my task here. To use Tasker tasks from Zooper, you set them as a Module OnTap action via the Tasker shortcut action.
Hope this helps you out enough to get you going
The OnTap Action says 'Choose on click behaviour, go straight to alarm settings......' but I don't see how. When I click to setup the OnTap, I only have Widget (Zooper Config, Disabled, Force Zooper Update), App List (which doesn't list alarm... it does list clock but using that doesn't go straight to alarm), and shotcurts (no alarm here either). I'm using Android's built in Alarm, no 3rd party app.
Any ideas what I'm missing?
Thanks.
I have the same problem on my Nexus 5 stock rom, but don't have it with custom roms...
It's the same Alarm app so I don't really understand !
All of a sudden I'm not able to select an existing ZW when using Popup widget.
When selecting Zooper as the widget from within Popup Widget, one can only select the default 18 templates / sizes and not an existing created zooper widget.
I would appreciate some assistance please from someone who uses Popup Widget to place Zooper Widgets on screen.
This has worked before but not at the moment.
Thanks for any help in this regard!
niteowl360 said:
All of a sudden I'm not able to select an existing ZW when using Popup widget.
When selecting Zooper as the widget from within Popup Widget, one can only select the default 18 templates / sizes and not an existing created zooper widget.
I would appreciate some assistance please from someone who uses Popup Widget to place Zooper Widgets on screen.
This has worked before but not at the moment.
Thanks for any help in this regard!
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Does it work if you create the Zooper widget directly on your homescreen/any other way than Popup widget? Just asking because from your initial description it kinda sounds like you have the free and not the pro version of Zooper installed.
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Does it work if you create the Zooper widget directly on your homescreen/any other way than Popup widget? Just asking because from your initial description it kinda sounds like you have the free and not the pro version of Zooper installed.
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Thank you for prompt reply.
Yes it works well when I use from within Zooper.
The issue seems to be that from within Popup Widget, there is no way to select the actual zooper widget but only the default templates.
So the 18 templates can be chosen, but not the already existing custom zooper widget that one has already created!!!
Yes, I am using Pro version.
Thanks kwerdenker
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Does it work if you create the Zooper widget directly on your homescreen/any other way than Popup widget? Just asking because from your initial description it kinda sounds like you have the free and not the pro version of Zooper installed.
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Actually, I should have stated that the way popup widgets work is to select a 'shortcut'.
So basically the process is to point the hotspot to Popup Widget and select one of the widgets prev setup in Popup Widget.
Problem is as per my original post, can't seem to create a Popup Widget using an already created Zooper Widget.
But this has worked previously!
Thanks
Ps I don't seem to be able to select a Zooper widget as the hotspot link from within Zooper either.
I can though select a Popup Widget within popup widget..
Apologies if this is getting confusing..
niteowl360 said:
Thank you for prompt reply.
Yes it works well when I use from within Zooper.
The issue seems to be that from within Popup Widget, there is no way to select the actual zooper widget but only the default templates.
So the 18 templates can be chosen, but not the already existing custom zooper widget that one has already created!!!
Yes, I am using Pro version.
Thanks kwerdenker
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niteowl360 said:
Actually, I should have stated that the way popup widgets work is to select a 'shortcut'.
So basically the process is to point the hotspot to Popup Widget and select one of the widgets prev setup in Popup Widget.
Problem is as per my original post, can't seem to create a Popup Widget using an already created Zooper Widget.
But this has worked previously!
Thanks
Ps I don't seem to be able to select a Zooper widget as the hotspot link from within Zooper either.
I can though select a Popup Widget within popup widget..
Apologies if this is getting confusing..
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I tried to recreate the issue but it works for me. Could you please check your steps against mine for any differences?
Create new Popup widget either via the app or directly via a new shortcut on the homescreen/Zooper's OnTap action.
Select a Zooper widget as the Popup widget content.
Configure the settings for the Popup widget.
Exit the popup configuration.
Open the newly created Popup widget via shortcut (again either from homescreen or via Zooper)
Tap the "blank" Zooper widget and load the template.
Exit the Zooper configuration.
The Popup widget should now be completely configured and show the Zooper template when called via the shortcut.
kwerdenker said:
I tried to recreate the issue but it works for me. Could you please check your steps against mine for any differences?
Create new Popup widget either via the app or directly via a new shortcut on the homescreen/Zooper's OnTap action.
Select a Zooper widget as the Popup widget content.
Configure the settings for the Popup widget.
Exit the popup configuration.
Open the newly created Popup widget via shortcut (again either from homescreen or via Zooper)
Tap the "blank" Zooper widget and load the template.
Exit the Zooper configuration.
The Popup widget should now be completely configured and show the Zooper template when called via the shortcut.
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Thank you very much kwerdenker for your detailed reply.
Am going through your steps shortly and will reply soon.
kwerdenker said:
I tried to recreate the issue but it works for me. Could you please check your steps against mine for any differences?
Create new Popup widget either via the app or directly via a new shortcut on the homescreen/Zooper's OnTap action.
Select a Zooper widget as the Popup widget content.
Configure the settings for the Popup widget.
Exit the popup configuration.
Open the newly created Popup widget via shortcut (again either from homescreen or via Zooper)
Tap the "blank" Zooper widget and load the template.
Exit the Zooper configuration.
The Popup widget should now be completely configured and show the Zooper template when called via the shortcut.
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Can you explain step 5 and 6 in greater detail please.
I pretty much do all the steps before that..
All other widgets from other apps work as expected....
These are my steps
1. Create a Zooper widget and save.
2. Select Create a new widget in Popup Widget.
3. Select Zooper.
4. Choose any of the 18 templates
5. This places a blank Zooper widget.
And this seems to be the issue.
I should be able to select a previously created Zooper widget that I have created in Step 1. Above.
Thanks for your time on this.
It is appreciated.
niteowl360 said:
Can you explain step 5 and 6 in greater detail please.
I pretty much do all the steps before that..
All other widgets from other apps work as expected....
These are my steps
1. Create a Zooper widget and save.
2. Select Create a new widget in Popup Widget.
3. Select Zooper.
4. Choose any of the 18 templates
5. This places a blank Zooper widget.
And this seems to be the issue.
I should be able to select a previously created Zooper widget that I have created in Step 1. Above.
Thanks for your time on this.
It is appreciated.
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Ah ok, I think I understand the problem now: your expectation of the process doesn't match with the one Zooper implements
When you create a Zooper widget, you get the choice of multiple widgets. The only difference here is the size of the widget. (You used the word template here but when you talk about Zooper, template means the .zw file you can load via the SD card option. This probably had me confused a bit at the beginning.) To get to the screen where you can load the template, you first have to create a Zooper widget of any size. This will result in a widget with the text "resize or tap to start" on it. When you tap it, you'll get to the template screen.
This "tap to configure" part is problematic in combination with Popup because in the configuration screen, you can't actually tap the widget. When you do that, you get the resize option from Popup widget. So what you have to do is create the widget, configure it in Popup as far as you can. Then you exit Popup and call the Popup shortcut you just configured, so it opens the blank Zooper and you can actually tap on it to load the template.
I hope this clarifies the steps necessary to make Zooper templates work with Popup widget.
kwerdenker said:
Ah ok, I think I understand the problem now: your expectation of the process doesn't match with the one Zooper implements
When you create a Zooper widget, you get the choice of multiple widgets. The only difference here is the size of the widget. (You used the word template here but when you talk about Zooper, template means the .zw file you can load via the SD card option. This probably had me confused a bit at the beginning.) To get to the screen where you can load the template, you first have to create a Zooper widget of any size. This will result in a widget with the text "resize or tap to start" on it. When you tap it, you'll get to the template screen.
This "tap to configure" part is problematic in combination with Popup because in the configuration screen, you can't actually tap the widget. When you do that, you get the resize option from Popup widget. So what you have to do is create the widget, configure it in Popup as far as you can. Then you exit Popup and call the Popup shortcut you just configured, so it opens the blank Zooper and you can actually tap on it to load the template.
I hope this clarifies the steps necessary to make Zooper templates work with Popup widget.
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That's exactly the issue.
I didn't express it well enough, but your understanding now is perfect.
So what you have to do, can you explain each step in the relevant App please, Zooper or Popup.
Still unsure of the process.
Apologies for being difficult, but this is difficult to comprehend.
I have though, once before, been able to see the Zooper widget load successfully into the Popup Screen.
This is probably driving you insane too, but once solved I'll document everything and post it here.
Thanks
niteowl360 said:
That's exactly the issue.
I didn't express it well enough, but your understanding now is perfect.
So what you have to do, can you explain each step in the relevant App please, Zooper or Popup.
Still unsure of the process.
Apologies for being difficult, but this is difficult to comprehend.
I have though, once before, been able to see the Zooper widget load successfully into the Popup Screen.
This is probably driving you insane too, but once solved I'll document everything and post it here.
Thanks
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Try it with the following steps and see if you can make it work.
Create a Zooper widget, configure it the way you like, save it as a template
Open Popup widget and create a new widget
From the list, choose a Zooper widget with the appropriate size for the template you just saved
Configure the settings for the Popup widget as would normally
Exit the Popup widget configuration via the back key to save your Popup widget
Exit the Popup widget app.
Either create a shortcut to the Popup widget you just made or use the appropriate OnTap action from another Zooper widget
Open the Popup widget via the shortcut/Zooper OnTap. It will display the "blank" Zooper widget with the "resize or tap to start" message. Tap on this Zooper widget.
You should be in the "Open template" screen. Select "SD card", search for the template you saved in Step 1 and tap on it.
Your template should now be loaded in the Zooper widget you called via Popup widget.
Exit the Zooper configuration
Your template should now be loaded in the Zooper Popup widget.
kwerdenker said:
Try it with the following steps and see if you can make it work.
Create a Zooper widget, configure it the way you like, save it as a template
Open Popup widget and create a new widget
From the list, choose a Zooper widget with the appropriate size for the template you just saved
Configure the settings for the Popup widget as would normally
Exit the Popup widget configuration via the back key to save your Popup widget
Exit the Popup widget app.
Either create a shortcut to the Popup widget you just made or use the appropriate OnTap action from another Zooper widget
Open the Popup widget via the shortcut/Zooper OnTap. It will display the "blank" Zooper widget with the "resize or tap to start" message. Tap on this Zooper widget.
You should be in the "Open template" screen. Select "SD card", search for the template you saved in Step 1 and tap on it.
Your template should now be loaded in the Zooper widget you called via Popup widget.
Exit the Zooper configuration
Your template should now be loaded in the Zooper Popup widget.
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Thank you very much kwerdenker.
Your instructions work perfectly.
I'm extremely grateful to you.
I obviously managed to do this once before, but by fluke.
At least now I understand the process thanks to your patience.
I'm using Uccw hotspot to call the popup widget, but will probably use Zooper at some point too.
Thank you again for your patience, I know this can be extremely frustrating, so I'm particularly appreciative.
Have a great remainder of the day.
Sorry I took so much of your time.
One last thing (promise), when creating a Zooper template, and resizing the template, how do you tell what size in pixels the resized template is?
Can't seem to see any setting that tells you the new size of the resized widget.
Thank you again.
Cheers
niteowl360 said:
Thank you very much kwerdenker.
Your instructions work perfectly.
I'm extremely grateful to you.
I obviously managed to do this once before, but by fluke.
At least now I understand the process thanks to your patience.
I'm using Uccw hotspot to call the popup widget, but will probably use Zooper at some point too.
Thank you again for your patience, I know this can be extremely frustrating, so I'm particularly appreciative.
Have a great remainder of the day.
Sorry I took so much of your time.
One last thing (promise), when creating a Zooper template, and resizing the template, how do you tell what size in pixels the resized template is?
Can't seem to see any setting that tells you the new size of the resized widget.
Thank you again.
Cheers
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No problem. This is what these forums are meant for and I gladly support everyone who is willing to expand their horizon and has the will to work for it.
As to your question: you can't find one because there is none. Zooper doesn't really work with pixels but has an internal scaling engine that should make sure that widgets look the same on different screens. This doesn't always work as intended but that's another story.
I guess you want to know which size you need to set your Popup widget to, so it has the same as the original Zooper widget you saved as a template? My way for that is to just determine it by hand: get the size of your device's screen in pixel (1280 height and 720 width for your one x for example) and divide that by the number of rows/columns you have set up in your launcher. Then you can just multiply that by how many rows/columns your Zooper widget used on the homescreen and get the size you need or at least a good estimate.
kwerdenker said:
No problem. This is what these forums are meant for and I gladly support everyone who is willing to expand their horizon and has the will to work for it.
As to your question: you can't find one because there is none. Zooper doesn't really work with pixels but has an internal scaling engine that should make sure that widgets look the same on different screens. This doesn't always work as intended but that's another story.
I guess you want to know which size you need to set your Popup widget to, so it has the same as the original Zooper widget you saved as a template? My way for that is to just determine it by hand: get the size of your device's screen in pixel (1280 height and 720 width for your one x for example) and divide that by the number of rows/columns you have set up in your launcher. Then you can just multiply that by how many rows/columns your Zooper widget used on the homescreen and get the size you need or at least a good estimate.
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Yes, that was exactly the reason for the question, lol.
Will try your method.
Thanks again.
When I post my results eventually on our other thread, will be sure to credit you....
looks like popup widget cant call a zooper from within themer. If a zooper included in popup widget is selected, you just get a blank "loading zooper..." message.
Any solution to this?
Sometimes this occurs when memory low.
Try reboot and see what happens.
Worth a shot.
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aadkitta said:
looks like popup widget cant call a zooper from within themer. If a zooper included in popup widget is selected, you just get a blank "loading zooper..." message.
Any solution to this?
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I have this trouble too. I can create a usually zooper widget in Popup 2, but I can't create a Themer zooper widget in Popup 2. I just want to create a shortcut to Themer category in widget, but i can't do that in usually zooper, there are no one Themer shoshortcuts. I can choose it in Themer zooper, but i can't create this widget
niteowl360 said:
Sometimes this occurs when memory low.
Try reboot and see what happens.
Worth a shot.
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Nexus 4, 2 GB RAM
Rylezzz said:
I have this trouble too. I can create a usually zooper widget in Popup 2, but I can't create a Themer zooper widget in Popup 2. I just want to create a shortcut to Themer category in widget, but i can't do that in usually zooper, there are no one Themer shoshortcuts. I can choose it in Themer zooper, but i can't create this widget
Nexus 4, 2 GB RAM
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Themer Zooper is only available in the Themer app itself, you can't use it outside of it.