Tripping our Knox to 0x1 can permanently make our device stay at custom status?!?
And we won't be able to update anymore?? Omg......
geeshiet said:
Tripping our Knox to 0x1 can permanently make our device stay at custom status?!?
And we won't be able to update anymore?? Omg......
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You can't update if you tripped knox? Source?
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divie said:
You can't update if you tripped knox? Source?
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My Knox counter is set to 0x1 and my device status is set to custom right after I rooted using cf autoroot and when I went to check on updates it says that "your device has been modified... Can't update "
geeshiet said:
My Knox counter is set to 0x1 and my device status is set to custom right after I rooted using cf autoroot and when I went to check on updates it says that "your device has been modified... Can't update "
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Did you try freezing all knox services with titanium backup?
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divie said:
Did you try freezing all knox services with titanium backup?
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Does that mean I can download and install software updates now?? (sorry noob here). And one more question since I fully unrooted and factory reseted to reset custom status but failed, if I root my device again will my Knox trip again and keep adding up? (0x2) unless I freeze Knox services
And I don't care about my warranty, all I care about is that I can be able to update my device and changing my device status to official so I can be able to resell this device to anyone
Can anyone confirm This??
I have rooted, installed recovery and installed custom ROMs. Then I've used Odin to revert to stock, and my pro 10.1 recognizes updates. Installed them, no problem. I've done this several times.
Mine tripped Knox but still had OTA updates went through with no problems, you just can't check manually.
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You can update but without root, correct? Since it will say device has been modified if you are rooted.
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I think you still can, you will lose root status so you will have to re root. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
Only nexus devices cannot update when rooted from my experience.
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Just update using odin. The only updates that are stopped is the OTA updates.
Samsung doesn't allow updates on device with root or knox tripped.
WVUTampaAlum said:
Samsung doesn't allow updates on device with root or knox tripped.
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This is a non-issue as the new RUU is available at sammobile within a few days after official update, no issues after flashing with Odin.
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Samsung doesn't allow updates on device with root or knox tripped.
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You sure? Because I had two OTA updates on my knox tripped tablet. I just couldn't do manual OTA check.
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Will I be able to receive, kit kat ota when the time comes. I'm rooted on stock Knox counter at 0 still...I think
Btw how do u check, to see if Knox counter has been tripped?
Thanks
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stoehner said:
Will I be able to receive, kit kat ota when the time comes. I'm rooted on stock Knox counter at 0 still...I think
Btw how do u check, to see if Knox counter has been tripped?
Thanks
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Go into download mode and u will see knox top left coner if tripped it will say 0x1
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gonnapushthru06 said:
Go into download mode and u will see knox top left coner if tripped it will say 0x1
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Thanks! What about otas? What needs to be done to get them, when time comes?
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Needs to be stock unrooted to my knowledge or someone will get the update and apply it and build a rom around it
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If you are rooted, you will not receive OTA updates.
You will get a prompt stating there is an update available, if you hit "update", it will go into download mode, but if you are rooted or your KNOX is tripped, it will do 1 of 2 things:
Update will fail and device will reboot or
Device will brick and you will have to Odin back to stock.
The only way you can get the OTA updates is if you reset you KNOX counter (which I don't think is possible yet) and revert your firmware/system to stock Samsung Official (using Supersu full unroot and Chainfire's Triangle Away)
There are guides how to unroot to official on the internet.
Hope this helped.
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Hmm, What could happen is if you only have root with not custom recovery, you will get OTA and will be able to flash just fine...(with knox still at 0x0) { done this with many phones only problem is loose root}
Now if you have removed any apps from system and try to update, then you would get a fail and just a reboot..
Or if you have root and tripped knox and still have stock recovery you will get OTA be able to flash and will loose root and still have knox flag tripped
like most cases, as if you would unlock htc bootloader... it says "unlocked" long there is no system files removed and you have stock recovery you are able still get OTA and flash them fine but the bootloader still remains unlocked...
what devynbf said is like worse case scenarios
Can we root the official At&T 4.3 yet?
I Odin'd my phone back to 4.1.2 before sending it out due to a bad headphone jack. It updated to 4.3 today and curious when my replacement comes and probably has 4.3 on it already, can it be rooted quick and just run a rooted stock for a while?
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Good KNOX info http://www.kingoapp.com/help/samsung-knox-counter.htm
This is what you need:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1980644
after you do it you will have to update SU through the play store and then it will disable knox for you as well..
Geeve
geeve420 said:
This is what you need:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1980644
after you do it you will have to update SU through the play store and then it will disable knox for you as well..
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Thanks alot!
No worries! Just keep in mind after you do it you'll get notifications about knox and security. Ignore them and head to the play store to update SU, because you won't be able to open SU till then. Also bear in mind that this will trip the knox counter and there is no going back.....it will void your warranty! You have been warned
Geeve
geeve420 said:
No worries! Just keep in mind after you do it you'll get notifications about knox and security. Ignore them and head to the play store to update SU, because you won't be able to open SU till then. Also bear in mind that this will trip the knox counter and there is no going back.....it will void your warranty! You have been warned
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KNOX counter is seperate from the Flash Counter? Before when I was on stock 4.1.2 and flashed custom 4.3 and 4.4 roms , I never saw any KNOX notifications or warning...Is this new with the 4.3 OTA?
My first phone had headphone jacks issues too. i reset it with odin and had it replaced with no issues from at&T. Now this one is repeating the same issue. I Odin back to 4.1.2 and took the 4.3 OTA before i call them and they want to remote desktop into my phone like before.
If KNOX only comes with the 4.3 OTA i wont take it if the replacment phone doesnt come with 4.3 preloaded
Anyway of confirm KNOX status on my phone? or is it something at&t doesnt look at
I Rebooted into download mode and it says KNOX Warranty VOID:0
So i guess I am good with this one......?
Never saw the KNOX before in download mode...So it must have came with the 4.3 OTA
If the replacemnt comes preloaded with 4.3 and I root theres no going back for non rooting warranty issues
If it comes with 4.1.2 i should be ok...cause my others came with 4.1.2 and i rooted and installed 4.3 and 4.4 roms , odin'd back to 4.1.2 and never saw knox before.
It's new in the 4.3 OTA MK6. It is separate from the flash counter and CANNOT as of now be reset. They can see it in the same place the flash counter is.
It will show 1 which means warranty void. If you can get one without 4.3 do it
This is what it looks like now:
Triangle away still works but the knox counter stays no matter what!
Edit: If it is still showing 0, then you are good to go
Geeve
thats good news LOL
4.3 preloaed=screwed if i root it
4.1.2 preloaded= no knox, free to root, flash, unroot and reset , send back with any non root related warranty issues.
Glad i didnt root the OTA in the meantime while i wait for my replacment..
Thanks for all info and help Geeve
You got it and no problem
Geeve
So i guess no custom 4.3 or 4.4 rom will install KNOX behind our backs..Just the OTA and any possible updated bootloaders if we dont pay attension and flash one
Baseband/Modem updates should not install knox...correct?
Correct! all the custom 4.3/4.4 roms use a leaked bootloader and most if not all have the knox stuff removed. It is only the MK6 OTA for our phones that is screwing us right now. We can still root and flash, but warranties are void..
Geeve
This topic won't help me?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502464
I hate not being able to tinker
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What is your baseband version in settings -> about device?
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geeve420 said:
What is your baseband version in settings -> about device?
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Here's a screen shot
Looks to me like you have the official MK6 OTA. I wouldn't mess with it if you have to return it. That other thread wont help.
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geeve420 said:
Looks to me like you have the official MK6 OTA. I wouldn't mess with it if you have to return it. That other thread wont help.
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Ok. Thanks
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The more I read in forums the more confusrd I am.. If I just root to do things like change dpi and make builprop edits will that trip Knox or just if I attempt to install TWRP
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Any attempt to flash the device recovery will trip Knox....g
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CF auto root is a custom recovery....with kernel and cache=Knox will be tripped...g
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gregsarg said:
Any attempt to flash the device recovery will trip Knox....g
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So just rooting and leaving stock recovery will trip?
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I have a T-mobile Galaxy S4 and it's currently running danvdh's GPE edition. I am considering updating via the OTA to get the new baseband/radio. I currently have the mixed MK2/MDL radio/baseband. I know that I'll get knox if I update...but IIRC, the Knox apps are able to be removed, and flashing new ROMs will trip Knox, but aside from voiding the warranty, what else does this do? Nothing? Lol
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Your phone will say sea android kernel not enforcing when the phone starts up.
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Android_Monsters said:
Your phone will say sea android kernel not enforcing when the phone starts up.
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This is a full and complete answer, by the way. That is all it will do aside from the warrent.y It does not affect your daily use at all.
Just to confirm though. If I go back to complete stock and do this update and then apply any kind of root it will hit the Knox flag right?
Right now mine is still 0x0
Pretty sure it's flashing a custom recovery that trips Knox, not rooting.
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Android_Monsters said:
Pretty sure it's flashing a custom recovery that trips Knox, not rooting.
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yes it is
TheArtiszan said:
Just to confirm though. If I go back to complete stock and do this update and then apply any kind of root it will hit the Knox flag right?
Right now mine is still 0x0
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I rooted my GS4 running 4.3 with knox counter and it didn't trip anything. Try this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
Good Luck
Mr Wizard
mr wizard said:
I rooted my GS4 running 4.3 with knox counter and it didn't trip anything. Try this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
Good Luck
Mr Wizard
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I would like to point out that as of right now I have not seen a method to root 4.4 without tripping knox counter. 4.3 yes Saferoot works but not for 4.4
I flashed the UCUCNE5 ROM with custom recovery (TWRP) and rooted. I am probably going to sell my Note 2, and was wondering if there is a way to unroot the device and flash the stock recovery + a stock ROM that enables OTA updates? I don't really care about the KNOX counter, as this device is not under warranty anymore..unless the KNOX counter prevents OTA updates? Thanks!
Just unroot in the settings of supersu and then flash 4.1.1 or 4.3 stock firmware
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mobidutch said:
I flashed the UCUCNE5 ROM with custom recovery (TWRP) and rooted. I am probably going to sell my Note 2, and was wondering if there is a way to unroot the device and flash the stock recovery + a stock ROM that enables OTA updates? I don't really care about the KNOX counter, as this device is not under warranty anymore..unless the KNOX counter prevents OTA updates? Thanks!
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Knox will not affect the OTA...
And likely the only people that would care about Knox would be corporate users needing the container intact. .
Sad to see the note go....g
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OK thanks for the replies!
I just got my insurance replacement and it's on 5.02. I installed pingpong root and it took but I have a few questions.
Is device status= custom normal?
Is software update pop-up normal? I was under the impression pingpong root blocked the OTA update.
How do I check if Knox was tripped?
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Status custom is normal since it adds files to the system directory.
Ping pong doesn't block ota updates.
To check Knox boot into bootloader and look at the counter there.
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Status custom is normal since it adds files to the system directory.
Ping pong doesn't block ota updates.
To check Knox boot into bootloader and look at the counter there.
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Cool thanks. I checked like you said and it's all zero.
Would you know how to block OTA updates on stock with root?
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njdevils28 said:
I just got my insurance replacement and it's on 5.02. I installed pingpong root and it took but I have a few questions.
Is device status= custom normal?
Is software update pop-up normal? I was under the impression pingpong root blocked the OTA update.
How do I check if Knox was tripped?
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software update pop-up is normal. and please update ur phone, the latest version right now is 5.1.1 but u'll have to root ur phone again. and if you want to to check ur knox, boot ur phone into Download Mode, if it said 0x0 = no 0x1= knox tripped
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software update pop-up is normal. and please update ur phone, the latest version right now is 5.1.1 but u'll have to root ur phone again. and if you want to to check ur knox, boot ur phone into Download Mode, if it said 0x0 = no 0x1= knox tripped
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Will Knox trip if I update and root? Aside from fixing the ram issue, what is the advantage to upgrading?
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Anyone?
Yes. Short of using Engineering bootloader and manually flashing the rest, there's no way to root the recent version without tripping Knox.
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Yes. Short of using Engineering bootloader and manually flashing the rest, there's no way to root the recent version without tripping Knox.
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I think I'll stay on 5.02 then.
Thanks for the heads up. Can I install Samsung pay on 5.02?
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Nope you need the newest version
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Will Knox trip if I update and root? Aside from fixing the ram issue, what is the advantage to upgrading?
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If you want to root ur phone then why bother with the Knox issue. Or idk about this,but u can try install rom that create by other and install it on ur phone. I dont think it gonna trip Knox
On any official bootloader flashing a custom recovery will trip it.