Knox and upgrading - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4

I have a T-mobile Galaxy S4 and it's currently running danvdh's GPE edition. I am considering updating via the OTA to get the new baseband/radio. I currently have the mixed MK2/MDL radio/baseband. I know that I'll get knox if I update...but IIRC, the Knox apps are able to be removed, and flashing new ROMs will trip Knox, but aside from voiding the warranty, what else does this do? Nothing? Lol
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Your phone will say sea android kernel not enforcing when the phone starts up.
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Android_Monsters said:
Your phone will say sea android kernel not enforcing when the phone starts up.
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This is a full and complete answer, by the way. That is all it will do aside from the warrent.y It does not affect your daily use at all.

Just to confirm though. If I go back to complete stock and do this update and then apply any kind of root it will hit the Knox flag right?
Right now mine is still 0x0

Pretty sure it's flashing a custom recovery that trips Knox, not rooting.
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Android_Monsters said:
Pretty sure it's flashing a custom recovery that trips Knox, not rooting.
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yes it is

TheArtiszan said:
Just to confirm though. If I go back to complete stock and do this update and then apply any kind of root it will hit the Knox flag right?
Right now mine is still 0x0
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I rooted my GS4 running 4.3 with knox counter and it didn't trip anything. Try this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
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Mr Wizard

mr wizard said:
I rooted my GS4 running 4.3 with knox counter and it didn't trip anything. Try this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
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Mr Wizard
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I would like to point out that as of right now I have not seen a method to root 4.4 without tripping knox counter. 4.3 yes Saferoot works but not for 4.4

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[Q] N7105 4.3 Update Root?

Yesterday I updated to 4.3
Build Number: jss15j.n7105xxuemk9
Iam I able to root this? if so which software can I use?
muj123 said:
Yesterday I updated to 4.3
Build Number: jss15j.n7105xxuemk9
Iam I able to root this? if so which software can I use?
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Still haven't fixed, any root methods?
I'm pretty sure cf autoroot has been updated to root 4.3 but it will probably trip the knox counter
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sawdoctor said:
I'm pretty sure cf autoroot has been updated to root 4.3 but it will probably trip the knox counter
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Thanks for your reply, I dont want to trip the Knox as the warranty is until 31 October 2015.
If it did trip it, will I able to factory restore and clean, would that make the counter back?
Edited post above.
Afiak you can't reset the knox counter yet. Dr Ketan guides are pretty good, there is a guide somewhere about removing knox that's probably worth reading.
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Can we root the official At&T 4.3 yet and KNOX questions **Solved

Can we root the official At&T 4.3 yet?
I Odin'd my phone back to 4.1.2 before sending it out due to a bad headphone jack. It updated to 4.3 today and curious when my replacement comes and probably has 4.3 on it already, can it be rooted quick and just run a rooted stock for a while?
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Good KNOX info http://www.kingoapp.com/help/samsung-knox-counter.htm
This is what you need:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1980644
after you do it you will have to update SU through the play store and then it will disable knox for you as well..
Geeve
geeve420 said:
This is what you need:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1980644
after you do it you will have to update SU through the play store and then it will disable knox for you as well..
Geeve
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Thanks alot!
No worries! Just keep in mind after you do it you'll get notifications about knox and security. Ignore them and head to the play store to update SU, because you won't be able to open SU till then. Also bear in mind that this will trip the knox counter and there is no going back.....it will void your warranty! You have been warned
Geeve
geeve420 said:
No worries! Just keep in mind after you do it you'll get notifications about knox and security. Ignore them and head to the play store to update SU, because you won't be able to open SU till then. Also bear in mind that this will trip the knox counter and there is no going back.....it will void your warranty! You have been warned
Geeve
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KNOX counter is seperate from the Flash Counter? Before when I was on stock 4.1.2 and flashed custom 4.3 and 4.4 roms , I never saw any KNOX notifications or warning...Is this new with the 4.3 OTA?
My first phone had headphone jacks issues too. i reset it with odin and had it replaced with no issues from at&T. Now this one is repeating the same issue. I Odin back to 4.1.2 and took the 4.3 OTA before i call them and they want to remote desktop into my phone like before.
If KNOX only comes with the 4.3 OTA i wont take it if the replacment phone doesnt come with 4.3 preloaded
Anyway of confirm KNOX status on my phone? or is it something at&t doesnt look at
I Rebooted into download mode and it says KNOX Warranty VOID:0
So i guess I am good with this one......?
Never saw the KNOX before in download mode...So it must have came with the 4.3 OTA
If the replacemnt comes preloaded with 4.3 and I root theres no going back for non rooting warranty issues
If it comes with 4.1.2 i should be ok...cause my others came with 4.1.2 and i rooted and installed 4.3 and 4.4 roms , odin'd back to 4.1.2 and never saw knox before.
It's new in the 4.3 OTA MK6. It is separate from the flash counter and CANNOT as of now be reset. They can see it in the same place the flash counter is.
It will show 1 which means warranty void. If you can get one without 4.3 do it
This is what it looks like now:
Triangle away still works but the knox counter stays no matter what!
Edit: If it is still showing 0, then you are good to go
Geeve
thats good news LOL
4.3 preloaed=screwed if i root it
4.1.2 preloaded= no knox, free to root, flash, unroot and reset , send back with any non root related warranty issues.
Glad i didnt root the OTA in the meantime while i wait for my replacment..
Thanks for all info and help Geeve
You got it and no problem
Geeve
So i guess no custom 4.3 or 4.4 rom will install KNOX behind our backs..Just the OTA and any possible updated bootloaders if we dont pay attension and flash one
Baseband/Modem updates should not install knox...correct?
Correct! all the custom 4.3/4.4 roms use a leaked bootloader and most if not all have the knox stuff removed. It is only the MK6 OTA for our phones that is screwing us right now. We can still root and flash, but warranties are void..
Geeve
This topic won't help me?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502464
I hate not being able to tinker
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What is your baseband version in settings -> about device?
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What is your baseband version in settings -> about device?
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Here's a screen shot
Looks to me like you have the official MK6 OTA. I wouldn't mess with it if you have to return it. That other thread wont help.
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geeve420 said:
Looks to me like you have the official MK6 OTA. I wouldn't mess with it if you have to return it. That other thread wont help.
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Ok. Thanks
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The more I read in forums the more confusrd I am.. If I just root to do things like change dpi and make builprop edits will that trip Knox or just if I attempt to install TWRP
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Any attempt to flash the device recovery will trip Knox....g
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CF auto root is a custom recovery....with kernel and cache=Knox will be tripped...g
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gregsarg said:
Any attempt to flash the device recovery will trip Knox....g
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So just rooting and leaving stock recovery will trip?
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Can I root on a p600 kk?

Been trying to figure out but mixed messages.
I know if I upgrade my at&t n3 phone to kk, I am screwed. So I rooted and froze the at&t upgrade till they fix things. Kk downloaded to my 2014 tablet but I keep saying no to the upgrade.
If I let it upgrade will it lock the bootloader or prevent later rooting?
Thanks.
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I rooted my SM-P600 after upgrading to KK through kies, I used the custom recovery flash method without any problems.
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http://www.teamandroid.com/2014/04/...d-442-galaxy-note-101-p600-official-firmware/
I update mine to kitkat, followed the above, and gained root. It worked even though I was updated to UBUCND2 (the us edition, not UBUCND1 mentioned in the article).
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Jnn1 said:
http://www.teamandroid.com/2014/04/...d-442-galaxy-note-101-p600-official-firmware/
I update mine to kitkat, followed the above, and gained root. It worked even though I was updated to UBUCND2 (the us edition, not UBUCND1 mentioned in the article).
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FYI, you will trip the knox status tho. you won't be able to reset it
xuanphucn said:
FYI, you will trip the knox status tho. you won't be able to reset it
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yeah, I already tripped knox when I rooted in jellybean, so I didn't mind ... but if keeping Knox untainted is important to you, I guess there must be other ways ...
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So if I don't upgrade, I can root and get kk without tripping Knox?
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Honeybadger said:
So if I don't upgrade, I can root and get kk without tripping Knox?
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If you root, you will trip Knox no matter how it's done. No getting around it.
[ How do you plan on getting KK without upgrading? ]
Now I'm confused.
Wait... Is you N10 LTE or WIfi Only? If you accept the OTA on the N10, YOU WILL NOT TRIP KNOX. If you ROOT YOU WILL TRIP KNOX.
You can have the upgrade to KK without rooting. Just Keis or OTA.
I was meaning rooting then a 3rd party ROM or upgrading Ota, root.
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Honeybadger said:
So if I don't upgrade, I can root and get kk without tripping Knox?
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no matter what version you are running. If you root the wifi version, you will trip the knox status no matter what:crying:

[Q] Towelroot Tmobile Note 3

I was wondering if anyone has tried towelroot on a Tmobile note 3? If you have did it work?
It works fine up until NE6.. it won't work in NF1. You can always Odin back to NE6 to use it.
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androidmasterrace said:
I was wondering if anyone has tried towelroot on a Tmobile note 3? If you have did it work?
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As long as your updated to NE6. I updated via kies and rooted. Very simple.
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will it work if i dont update to NE6
No. Well it doesn't work with nb4.
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Can someone explain or link me to somewhere where it does explain how to switch to NE6. Also will I have to root to upgrade because if I do there will be no point of upgrading and using towelroot
androidmasterrace said:
Can someone explain or link me to somewhere where it does explain how to switch to NE6. Also will I have to root to upgrade because if I do there will be no point of upgrading and using towelroot
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All you have to do is download the N900TUVUDNE6 Firmware from http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/1/?model=SM-N900T&pcode=TMB#firmware. Then, connect your phone to your computer and open Odin software. Flash though AP. After a few minutes, it's done and voila! This will not change your Knox status from 0x0. Then use Towelroot v2 to root your phone. Its a very easy install and click app. and you are done.
I was hoping to avoid Odin if at all possible not because I don't know what I'm doing but because I'm a very cautious and have only rooted one other phone with odin. Also I noticed NF1 is on Kies will that work with towelroot?
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Eudeferrer said:
All you have to do is download the N900TUVUDNE6 Firmware from http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/1/?model=SM-N900T&pcode=TMB#firmware. Then, connect your phone to your computer and open Odin software. Flash though AP. After a few minutes, it's done and voila! This will not change your Knox status from 0x0. Then use Towelroot v2 to root your phone. Its a very easy install and click app. and you are done.
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ok sorry to ask but just to be sure, if i had NF1 and did the downgrade it will NOT change my knox from 0x0 to 0x1?
nightmare reaper said:
ok sorry to ask but just to be sure, if i had NF1 and did the downgrade it will NOT change my knox from 0x0 to 0x1?
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No. Simply downgrading to stock firmware will not change your Knox status to 0x1. I downgraded myself in order to gain root and I'm still at 0x0.
Eudeferrer said:
All you have to do is download the N900TUVUDNE6 Firmware from http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/1/?model=SM-N900T&pcode=TMB#firmware. Then, connect your phone to your computer and open Odin software. Flash though AP. After a few minutes, it's done and voila! This will not change your Knox status from 0x0. Then use Towelroot v2 to root your phone. Its a very easy install and click app. and you are done.
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When i try to load the NE6 firmware it fails because it says i dont have a pit partition what do i do?
howdyace said:
No. Well it doesn't work with nb4.
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Worked fine for me... I had to disable lookout mobile security first however. Edit: Knox is 0x0
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b0bii said:
Worked fine for me... I had to disable lookout mobile security first however. Edit: Knox is 0x0
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Interesting , it didn't work for me and my wife (tmobile note 3) and others. I'm not sure why unless with v2 nb4 firmware was included.
I hope he does a v3 soon.
NF1 come on down......:highfive:
howdyace said:
Interesting , it didn't work for me and my wife (tmobile note 3) and others. I'm not sure why unless with v2 nb4 firmware was included.
I hope he does a v3 soon.
NF1 come on down......:highfive:
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There was a bug with the kernel I use that was fixed in v2
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b0bii said:
There was a bug with the kernel I use that was fixed in v2
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Gotcha.
I just want root. I really don't want to trip knox because I know my luck and the CS reps will check before i do the jump program to note 4. Because thats all i really envision me getting anyways. G3 and the oppo .....meh.
howdyace said:
Gotcha.
I just want root. I really don't want to trip knox because I know my luck and the CS reps will check before i do the jump program to note 4. Because thats all i really envision me getting anyways. G3 and the oppo .....meh.
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Checked my bootloader. I'm 0x0
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Yeah, I traded root for nf1 volte and while I don't regret it I don't want to flash ne6 baseband. And I'm still 0x0 for the 5 days I was rooted.
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I am on NB4 and towelroot works with no knox 0×0!
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Is it safe for me to flash a recovery?

I just now decided to get root after having this phone for a month the only method I found for rooting was the towelroot.com app well I saw some ppl who have done this mention something about tripping something idk I've never heard of such a thing is it something serious? Could I just flash a recovery and start flashing roms? The whole reason why I rooted this phone thanks in advance
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Update nvm I used titanium to freeze all the knox apps now I had to install goomanager had to get it off google then realized goomanager is either banned or idk doesn't have any roms or recoveries to search for anymore now I'm lost
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Class_of_punk26 said:
Update nvm I used titanium to freeze all the knox apps now I had to install goomanager had to get it off google then realized goomanager is either banned or idk doesn't have any roms or recoveries to search for anymore now I'm lost
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What is your end goal?
If you just wanted root, you have it. If you're wanting to flash a different ROM, then you'll need to first flash a custom recovery.
In regards to tripping KNOX, it voids your warranty. Gaining root doesn't trip KNOX, flashing a recovery will.
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Tripping Knox doesn't necessarily void your warranty but it may.. You can flash a custom recovery with flashify but your counter will be tripped, and you didn't need to disable anything Knox
Thanks ya'll
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You can freeze all the KNOX stuffs with TB if you have problems with any annoying KNOX notifications. Most customs ROM devs take them out tho.
Oh I've done that actually haven't had that pop up since
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Class_of_punk26 said:
Oh I've done that actually haven't had that pop up since
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Awesome :thumbup:
Class_of_punk26 said:
Oh I've done that actually haven't had that pop up since
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There is a difference between the Knox security apps that can be frozen in TB and the Knox flag which shows up with the bootloaders newer than 4.2.2 MDL
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You can freeze all the KNOX stuffs with TB if you have problems with any annoying KNOX notifications. Most customs ROM devs take them out tho.
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Oh I've done that actually haven't had that pop up since
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There is a difference between the Knox security apps that can be frozen in TB and the Knox flag which shows up with the bootloaders newer than 4.2.2 MDL
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You can freeze all the KNOX stuffs with TB if you have problems with any annoying KNOX notifications. Most customs ROM devs take them out tho.
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Same as above.
lalec said:
There is a difference between the Knox security apps that can be frozen in TB and the Knox flag which shows up with the bootloaders newer than 4.2.2 MDL
Same as above.
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Thanks?

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