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[Q] Is it possibility that to root Fire TV with the latest Fire OS version

Hi guys,
My Fire TV already have updated the latest Fire OS version. root fails.
Is there has some solutions to get the root right now? Is it possibility that to root Fire TV in the latest Fire OS version, or is it possibility in the future.
Thanks,
Griffin

Nope

mag13 said:
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Could you give some details ? I am thinking is should to sell my Fire TV, and buy new one for root

griffinqiu said:
Could you give some details ? I am thinking is should to sell my Fire TV, and buy new one for root
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Read the forum - everything is here

griffinqiu said:
Could you give some details ? I am thinking is should to sell my Fire TV, and buy new one for root
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That should work. I just received & rooted my 3rd AFTV tonight. Bought it online @ Staples last Thurs. I've bought 3 total from Staples. One last month & two last week. Been lucky to have never gotten an update nag screen on first setup. All of mine have come with FW 510055620. I have also heard BestBuy in-store AFTV's are rootable. I am finding it hard to find post about AFTV in the USA not being rootable if one follows the guides over at AFTVNews.com to the letter at the time of unboxing. I only know of one buyer from Staples that said he was not able to root 2 AFTV's.

Y314K said:
That should work. I just received & rooted my 3rd AFTV tonight. Bought it online @ Staples last Thurs. I've bought 3 total from Staples. One last month & two last week. Been lucky to have never gotten an update nag screen on first setup. All of mine have come with FW 510055620. I have also heard BestBuy in-store AFTV's are rootable. I am finding it hard to find post about AFTV in the USA not being rootable if one follows the guides over at AFTVNews.com to the letter at the time of unboxing. I only know of one buyer from Staples that said he was not able to root 2 AFTV's.
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My one (from staples) is unrootable as well.
So yes, unrootable fire tv are out there in the US.

wbc1228 said:
My one (from staples) is unrootable as well.
So yes, unrootable fire tv are out there in the US.
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Right.. But so far they have been very rare. You are just the 2nd person out of dozens & dozens (participated in two threads over at SlickDeals regarding FireTV's) that have received unrootable FireTV's... Did you make a note of the serial on the box ?? What router where you using ?

I have bought new one, and rooted. thank you everyone

griffinqiu said:
I have bought new one, and rooted. thank you everyone
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Can you tell us where you bought from to be able to see root this?

Android TV ROM possible?

What are the chances of getting an Android TV ROM put on the FireTV? Is the partial bootloader unlock that's out there enough to do this?

I'm curious what would happen if the Android TV Launcher was sideloaded on the FireTV? I doubt it would be that easy, but I know it's been possible to get Google Play Store working and linked to your account and the ability to show all apps.
Maybe someone with a little more knowledge can expand on this and what else would have to be packaged together for the TV Launcher to work properly.

Dhickory said:
I'm curious what would happen if the Android TV Launcher was sideloaded on the FireTV? I doubt it would be that easy, but I know it's been possible to get Google Play Store working and linked to your account and the ability to show all apps.
Maybe someone with a little more knowledge can expand on this and what else would have to be packaged together for the TV Launcher to work properly.
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My guess is it won't work because it requires lollipop stuff. I am currently working on a lollipop build. I have some time off work so maybe I'll be able to make some progress on it.

Android TV Launcher available (4.4 +):
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.leanbacklauncher
Someone to test ?

Antechris said:
Android TV Launcher available (4.4 +):
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.leanbacklauncher
Someone to test ?
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Well the stock Amazon OS is 4.2.2... so...

rbox said:
Well the stock Amazon OS is 4.2.2... so...
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Very stupide, I was sure it was 4.4. Sorry

rbox said:
Well the stock Amazon OS is 4.2.2... so...
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Give it a few weeks, I'm sure the AFTV will be updated to Kitkat at least.

RAFAMP said:
Give it a few weeks, I'm sure the AFTV will be updated to Kitkat at least.
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I highly doubt that. The kernel that Amazon is using does not have a kitkat branch. Plus they really have no reason to do that.

CM12...

Awesome!! Looking forward to trying it out!

rbox said:
CM12...
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Nice... Glad I got all my FTV's with partial unlocked bootloader, latest CWM & BootMenu ready to go....

rbox said:
CM12...
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will you still be making the prerooted stock roms?

rbox said:
CM12...
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This is awesome!
I'd love to know how successful we expect this to be? Not trying to push or anything, of course, but I'm very curious if we have audio and video acceleration working yet? Having seen this I think I'll pick up another Fire TV, but not sure where best to buy, to have best chance of rooting it? Staples or Amazon?
I've currently got an Amazon Fire TV with your kernel boot menu installed, and would be happy to play about with some CM12 builds if it is helpful to have another users perspective. If the network does not work I have an Android compatible USB ethernet adaptor, and also wifi adaptor.
Thanks!!

hearnia_2K said:
This is awesome!
I'd love to know how successful we expect this to be? Not trying to push or anything, of course, but I'm very curious if we have audio and video acceleration working yet? Having seen this I think I'll pick up another Fire TV, but not sure where best to buy, to have best chance of rooting it? Staples or Amazon?
I've currently got an Amazon Fire TV with your kernel boot menu installed, and would be happy to play about with some CM12 builds if it is helpful to have another users perspective. If the network does not work I have an Android compatible USB ethernet adaptor, and also wifi adaptor.
Thanks!!
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Amazon has been the best place to get rootable FTV's. Staples & BB are still sending a high number of rootable FTV's as long as folks follow AFTVNews.com guides on how to Root them without updating them.
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pbanj said:
will you still be making the prerooted stock roms?
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He will probably still be making them. It just happens that the latest FW update isn't much of an update Features wise. So no rush for an update. Plus Amazon is getting trickier with the FW too. So patience is a virtue..

Y314K said:
He will probably still be making them. It just happens that the latest FW update isn't much of an update Features wise. So no rush for an update. Plus Amazon is getting trickier with the FW too. So patience is a virtue..
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oh im patient i just wanted to know if he was stopping the prerooted ones or not. i wasnt asking for an eta or anything. i just know some devs stop one project when they move onto another

As for CM12, it is very far from something flashable. All I have right now is the boot animation and the "updating packages" dialog. Currently my main problem is that none of the required services are starting, so I have to start them manually. Even doing that, I think I'm not starting everything that is required because as it starts loading up things, it dies because storage isn't set up properly, and bypassing that it kinda just hangs starting some android services. I'll have to enable some debug in init tomorrow to see what's going on with that.
As for prerooted, I'll still be making those. To be honest, CM12 is just a fun experiment for me. I probably won't be using it much because I watch a lot of Amazon Prime, and Android TV currently doesn't support it. I didn't really hear anyone saying anything earth shattering is contained in the newest update, and I really need to spend some extra time on it to figure out what's wrong with SuperSU, so that's why I haven't released a new one yet.

rbox said:
As for CM12, it is very far from something flashable. All I have right now is the boot animation and the "updating packages" dialog. Currently my main problem is that none of the required services are starting, so I have to start them manually. Even doing that, I think I'm not starting everything that is required because as it starts loading up things, it dies because storage isn't set up properly, and bypassing that it kinda just hangs starting some android services. I'll have to enable some debug in init tomorrow to see what's going on with that.
As for prerooted, I'll still be making those. To be honest, CM12 is just a fun experiment for me. I probably won't be using it much because I watch a lot of Amazon Prime, and Android TV currently doesn't support it. I didn't really hear anyone saying anything earth shattering is contained in the newest update, and I really need to spend some extra time on it to figure out what's wrong with SuperSU, so that's why I haven't released a new one yet.
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That's awesome. If you can pull off CyanogenMod, it'll be epic! I know it's super early in the process, but forgive me, you got me all giddy and I couldn't hold back.

Y314K said:
Amazon has been the best place to get rootable FTV's. Staples & BB are still sending a high number of rootable FTV's as long as folks follow AFTVNews.com guides on how to Root them without updating them.
Thanks for the info - I did not realize it was still so likely to be rootable, so was unsure on buying a second.
Happy to say, I picked one up just now from Staples for $71.18 after tax in Duluth, GA. Rootable. Got that price by using a 15% off coupon, which was on their own website: http://www.staples.com/coupons
Great price, and rootable device!
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hearnia_2K said:
Y314K said:
Amazon has been the best place to get rootable FTV's. Staples & BB are still sending a high number of rootable FTV's as long as folks follow AFTVNews.com guides on how to Root them without updating them.
Thanks for the info - I did not realize it was still so likely to be rootable, so was unsure on buying a second.
Happy to say, I picked one up just now from Staples for $71.18 after tax in Duluth, GA. Rootable. Got that price by using a 15% off coupon, which was on their own website: http://www.staples.com/coupons
Great price, and rootable device!
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Nice.. I've gotten all my Rooted FTV's thru Staples site since Staples can really make things an awesome deal with their coupons...
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So I've gotten A LOT farther than I expected. I thought the kernel would have been a much bigger issue than it turned out to be. Anyway, right now I can get to the stock launcher and it looks like SystemUI is doing a crazy crash loop, so eventually the thing just dies. I'm going to try to get the Android TV launcher worker though. Then deal with SystemUI.
EDIT: Well I got the Android TV launcher starting... not sure what's supposed to happen with it though...

Are all new FireTV's now unrootable?

Think I just bricked my FireTV. Just wondering if the new FIreTV's are still rootable. I know that the stick isn't but was hoping to order another from Amazon or Staples and get a rootable one.

yazyazoo said:
Think I just bricked my FireTV. Just wondering if the new FIreTV's are still rootable. I know that the stick isn't but was hoping to order another from Amazon or Staples and get a rootable one.
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Unless you find old stock somewhere (B&M) they are not software rootable, you could always do the hardware root

yazyazoo said:
Think I just bricked my FireTV. Just wondering if the new FIreTV's are still rootable. I know that the stick isn't but was hoping to order another from Amazon or Staples and get a rootable one.
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I found a bunch of rootable fire tvs about a month ago at Best Buy and Staples in my area. Your best bet is to go to the store and check the serial numbers with the serial checker on aftvnews.com. My Best Buy keeps all the fire tvs out on the shelves, so it is easy to check them before buying them, but Staples keeps their's in the stock room. Buying them online is probably not gonna work.

Anyone still getting rooted units?

I had pretty much given up hope that i'd find anymore rooted units about a month ago until today when I walked into a store and bought 3. Is there still a supply of these rootable fire tv's?

danknasty said:
I had pretty much given up hope that i'd find anymore rooted units about a month ago until today when I walked into a store and bought 3. Is there still a supply of these rootable fire tv's?
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you could get them on ebay. the key is to ask what is the serial. Its hard but a few give the serial and with that you can find out if its rootable. Did you find a few or are you still looking for it. If you did buy three. would you sell any one of them for the community?

Picked up one at staples from 7/14 so I can root it. Tech guy was nice enough to find one for me after bringing out a few from 3/15 so they're still out there. just have to sort through there inventory.

killerb777 said:
Picked up one at staples from 7/14 so I can root it. Tech guy was nice enough to find one for me after bringing out a few from 3/15 so they're still out there. just have to sort through there inventory.
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After making this post I have received 3 more rooted units in the mail today from staples. I am beginning to wonder if they stopped making these...

I've actually picked up 7 in the last 3 weeks all at staples....they still keep getting them in.
Most of them are 51.1.0.1 even...I think it'll still be a while you can easily pick these up. I have literally put forth no more than 5% effort in finding these

arunningpir8 said:
I've actually picked up 7 in the last 3 weeks all at staples....they still keep getting them in.
Most of them are 51.1.0.1 even...I think it'll still be a while you can easily pick these up. I have literally put forth no more than 5% effort in finding these
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I actually ordered like four a week ago and they were all unrootable so I basically gave up hope at that point but now seems like they are back.

danknasty said:
I actually ordered like four a week ago and they were all unrootable so I basically gave up hope at that point but now seems like they are back.
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There's your problem...you need to actually pick yourself up and walk into a store to get them
Seriously, what "normal" people think of going to a staples to buy something like a fire tv? That's why there are so many rootable units on the shelves there

arunningpir8 said:
There's your problem...you need to actually pick yourself up and walk into a store to get them
Seriously, what "normal" people think of going to a staples to buy something like a fire tv? That's why there are so many rootable units on the shelves there
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Actually I've honestly had better luck ordering from staples than going into one. The one time I did the manager actually told me without me asking these were not the rootable ones. Lol mabye it's just where I live.

Must be lol, although I've picked them up all over "congested" areas in Indiana ( I drive a lot for work ).
:shrug: who knows with these things i guess

I have a rooted unot and considering to update to the newest firware. Any benefits to keep it rooted? All I do is xbmc and amazon prime videos.

esxps said:
I have a rooted unot and considering to update to the newest firware. Any benefits to keep it rooted? All I do is xbmc and amazon prime videos.
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I like the ability of having a custom rom that is around the corner. The absolute imperative for me is SNES EMU and the Sega Masger System EMU that are charged on google play. and the Quicksupport teamviewer that only works on root for desktop sharing. I can always debug/tweak and help my friends/parents fix their firetv's. Rooted for me is very important.

Sucks living in Australia..
I wanna get another rootable Fire TV for my dad but I can only order online so my chances are slim.
I need a friend living in the States.

DN38416 said:
Sucks living in Australia..
I wanna get another rootable Fire TV for my dad but I can only order online so my chances are slim.
I need a friend living in the States.
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If you pay for shipping. I can help you. I'm in Los Angeles. Send me a PM. There is a seller on ebay that may have rooted ones brand new but I suggest you message the person directly. I've purchased one for myself and once it arrives I can confirm what version it is. If you need I can stop by at bestbuy to see if they have rootable ones but chances are slim. just trying to help out.
*** REMOVED LINK BY ME AS THE UNIT THEY SELL IS NOT ROOT ABLE ***
Reply from NPS/Ebay seller.
Hi,
Thank you for your interest in this item. The batch number is 305.
Sincerely,
Barbara
The NPS Store eBay Sales Dept.

here is all the amazon fire tv ROOTED.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Amazon-Fire-Tv-Digital-HD-Media-Streamer-CAN-BE-ROOTED-INSTALL-XBMC-SEALED-NEW-/141554629836?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20f5503ccc

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here is all the amazon fire tv ROOTED.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Amazon-Fire-Tv-Digital-HD-Media-Streamer-CAN-BE-ROOTED-INSTALL-XBMC-SEALED-NEW-/141554629836?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20f5503ccc
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It's a tad expensive, but I suggest buying them from the seller auction_discount. I've bought two of them, and he did a great job rooting them. He sets up XBMC, Stick Mount, Busybox, and other essential apps.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121570606665

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It's a tad expensive, but I suggest buying them from the seller auction_discount. I've bought two of them, and he did a great job rooting them. He sets up XBMC, Stick Mount, Busybox, and other essential apps.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121570606665
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Id rather pay slightly more to get a rootable sealed one vs someone else doing it for me. I just got one from the person in the link above.
The earlier link that I had purchased was a bad one as it seems someone had updated the firmware and repackaged it. The box came opened with plastic.

navigates said:
Id rather pay slightly more to get a rootable sealed one vs someone else doing it for me. I just got one from the person in the link above.
The earlier link that I had purchased was a bad one as it seems someone had updated the firmware and repackaged it. The box came opened with plastic.
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ah, I agree. I'd rather have one that was rootable as well. I made the mistake of ordering one off of amazon, and it the software was way too new. I returned it and set out for another AFTV. I don't why I didn't pick up a rootable one instead of one that was already rooted.
Yesterday I went into the Navy Exchange on the base I work at, and saw they finally put out AFTV's. I whipped out my phone and checked all of the serial numbers on the ones on the shelf. BOOM! ALL of them were rootable. I picked up three of them right away. I'll probably go back and buy more soon. They all come with 51.1.0.1_user_510055620.

esxps said:
I have a rooted unot and considering to update to the newest firware. Any benefits to keep it rooted? All I do is xbmc and amazon prime videos.
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I'm in the same boat right now. It seems like the new updates are providing much of the same experience that rooted boxes originally had. Besides sixaxis and rbox's xposed module, I really don't utilize any of the advantages of a rooted unit over a stock one..
I'd just hate to kill a rooted box. It'd be like shooting a black rhino.

spyder3 said:
I'm in the same boat right now. It seems like the new updates are providing much of the same experience that rooted boxes originally had. Besides sixaxis and rbox's xposed module, I really don't utilize any of the advantages of a rooted unit over a stock one..
I'd just hate to kill a rooted box. It'd be like shooting a black rhino.
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I thought rbox released the latest firmware pre-rooted?

spyder3 said:
I'm in the same boat right now. It seems like the new updates are providing much of the same experience that rooted boxes originally had. Besides sixaxis and rbox's xposed module, I really don't utilize any of the advantages of a rooted unit over a stock one..
I'd just hate to kill a rooted box. It'd be like shooting a black rhino.
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There are fundamental benefits to rooting and rBox has the latest one rooted. Its really simple to keep up with the rooted versions specially when you have the boot menu with recovery installed. For starters the latest version still does not allow ntfs mounts on usb. Then again remote quick support needs root for screen sharing remote as that is imperative if you build boxes for family and friends and if they need any software help.
I always land up helping my parents remotely. I have two sessions connected through teamviewer. one to the firetv and one on the pc and I'm golden. All tweaks updates and fixes work perfectly. except rom/firmware updates.

What firmware does the new fire TV 2 ship with?

Anyone know this answer?

How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop? I'm guessing the current firmware or maybe an older one. You just never know.

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How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop? I'm guessing the current firmware or maybe an older one. You just never know.
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Lol thanks for the reply anyways

biglo said:
Lol thanks for the reply anyways
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Mine came with 5.2.4.2, bought last week in MediaMarkt in Germany.
Today it goes back to store to be replaced by Shield TV.
No root - no Amazon TV.

Due to the large number of factors at play, it can be very difficult to say, sight unseen, which firmware will be on a device.
I have a few tips if you are trying to find one with rootable firmware. It's difficult but not impossible.
Where to look:
-Very high volume vendors receive a large number of devices at a time & take awhile to sell out
Leaving potential for in-stock devices they received several months back.
-A vendor who accepts returns, only sells AFTV devices by special order (or both) has potential, if one was bought & returned, or ordered & not picked up.
What to avoid:
-Direct from Amazon
-Refurbished devices
Both will most likely be on up-to-date firmware.
Firmware version can be estimated by dissecting the serial number on the box
If you're looking online, buying secondhand from non-bulk sellers will yield the best results. Just ask the seller for the serial number, or check the package if you're at a store, then plug it in to this handy tool from aftvnews: http://www.aftvnews.com/amazon-fire-tv-serial-number-decoder/
It won't tell you with absolute certainty which firmware is installed, but it will give you the 'when' and 'where' of manufacture.
Cross-reference with firmware version release dates and you can get a pretty good idea, without having to pay $50-100 to find out.
I found an unopened AFTV1 on the initial software release (unlockable bootloader) in December, and Bestbuy was even shipping out AFTVS-1's carrying 5.2.1.0 up until last Christmas.
New rootable devices are still out there, just gotta know where to look.
Good luck, hope this helps!

phresch said:
Due to the large number of factors at play, it can be very difficult to say, sight unseen, which firmware will be on a device.
I have a few tips if you are trying to find one with rootable firmware. It's difficult but not impossible.
Where to look:
-Very high volume vendors receive a large number of devices at a time & take awhile to sell out
Leaving potential for in-stock devices they received several months back.
-A vendor who accepts returns, only sells AFTV devices by special order (or both) has potential, if one was bought & returned, or ordered & not picked up.
What to avoid:
-Direct from Amazon
-Refurbished devices
Both will most likely be on up-to-date firmware.
Firmware version can be estimated by dissecting the serial number on the box
If you're looking online, buying secondhand from non-bulk sellers will yield the best results. Just ask the seller for the serial number, or check the package if you're at a store, then plug it in to this handy tool from aftvnews: http://www.aftvnews.com/amazon-fire-tv-serial-number-decoder/
It won't tell you with absolute certainty which firmware is installed, but it will give you the 'when' and 'where' of manufacture.
Cross-reference with firmware version release dates and you can get a pretty good idea, without having to pay $50-100 to find out.
I found an unopened AFTV1 on the initial software release (unlockable bootloader) in December, and Bestbuy was even shipping out AFTVS-1's carrying 5.2.1.0 up until last Christmas.
New rootable devices are still out there, just gotta know where to look.
Good luck, hope this helps!
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Nice that's for the very informative response!