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GS3 Suddenly Very Slow

Out of nowhere my GS3 is very sluggish. Swiping between home screens is jumpy. Some games literally run at half-speed. Launching apps can take quite some time. Etc...
I haven't installed any new apps since the last time I noticed it was running smoothly. I'm not really sure how to troubleshoot this. I've tried battery pulls, hard resets and clearing the cache from CMW. But nothing seems to work.
I was thinking that maybe an app had been updated in the background that is now a problem. But I can't think of a way to tell which apps have been recently updated.
Any guidance would be much appreciated.
Many thanks!
-Jason

This might sound stupid, but did you check if the power saving mode is on or not?
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amgpower63 said:
This might sound stupid, but did you check if the power saving mode is on or not?
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That was exactly it!!!!
Damn I feel like an idiot
Thanks though... it was making me crazy.

Factory reset, restore no apps. Check got lag. Add one app, check for lag. Continue until lag is found
And when you add an app back, dl it fresh from the market (no restoring anything).

amgpower63 said:
This might sound stupid, but did you check if the power saving mode is on or not?
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I'm sorry, but when i'm running stock or a custom TouchWiz ROM, i tend to have power saving mode on 24/7, and never experience any UI sluggishness.

elementaldragon said:
I'm sorry, but when i'm running stock or a custom TouchWiz ROM, i tend to have power saving mode on 24/7, and never experience any UI sluggishness.
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Same here.

elementaldragon said:
I'm sorry, but when i'm running stock or a custom TouchWiz ROM, i tend to have power saving mode on 24/7, and never experience any UI sluggishness.
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Depends on the app. Non-stock launchers get very choppy on power save mode.

Any solutions for this issue... anyone try pimp my rom?

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Depends on the app. Non-stock launchers get very choppy on power save mode.
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One of the first things I thought of was that maybe Nova received an update that I wasn't aware of and it had broken something. So I tried TouchWiz and GoLauncher... all with the same result. Overall, the phone felt slightly sluggish. But some things apps and games became unusable. The new Rayman game literally ran at half speed. Other games would run at full speed but you could tell that control response was just a hair off. So you would end up walking off a lot of cliffs to straight into an enemy before you could get a jump off. It also effected load times on most things. Some apps that would load in 4-5 seconds were suddenly taking 30-40.
I can repeat this problem 100% of the time. I even tried toggling off the CPU option but Power Save still gave me the same issues (which doesn't make sense).

I have a completely stock never rooted GS3 and have had this sluggishness since the update. It happens when the screen auto dims, even though I have auto-dimming turned off. It also happens when I wake the screen up. I can't get the notification bar down or anything for about 5 long seconds; then it's fine until the shadow of my finger covers the front light sensor and the screen dims. It's almost like a hiccup. I'm going to factory reset this weekend. Was hoping to get Jelly Bean before I did so I didn't have to download all my apps again, and set all my settings. This is my first Samsung Android and it's an amazing phone when it's first started but after it runs for a few hours it gets buggy; so I'm pretty disappointed.
A note to anyone trying to solve this mystery: before the update I couldn't get my calendar to accept custom notification sounds, now I can. Since not everyone had that issue I'm guessing the software had issues since the day the phone was built. In manufacturing sometimes **** happens.

When in doubt pull it out . Oh I miss the BlackBerry Battery pull days to fix lag

radeon_x said:
Depends on the app. Non-stock launchers get very choppy on power save mode.
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Try Launcher Pro Plus - fastest, smoothest, most customizable launcher there is. Period. Forget Nova and Apex... Go try LPP!! Never lags or gets choppy, power save mode or not.

G-Man. said:
Try Launcher Pro Plus - fastest, smoothest, most customizable launcher there is. Period. Forget Nova and Apex... Go try LPP!! Never lags or gets choppy, power save mode or not.
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Does that one even still work? I loved LPP but thought it was dead.

Jirv311 said:
Does that one even still work? I loved LPP but thought it was dead.
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It is. Hasn't been updated in like a year and a half.

MethodX said:
It is. Hasn't been updated in like a year and a half.
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Fede is actually working on a new update. No release date yet. LPP still works better than any launcher out there. I've tried virtually every launcher available, and always go right back to LPP. Who cares that it hasn't been updated in a year or more, it hasn't needed to be updated. It's flawless.

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Fede is actually working on a new update. No release date yet. LPP still works better than any launcher out there. I've tried virtually every launcher available, and always go right back to LPP. Who cares that it hasn't been updated in a year or more, it hasn't needed to be updated. It's flawless.
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Nice. Same here. Haven't switched to another launcher since the captivate. Glad Fede is ok. I remember a couple months back, one of the android sites sent out a call for him. when you would type fede carnales in google, choices such as "fede carnales dead?" came up.
edit: Just found the link and see he replied to it.
http://phandroid.com/2012/07/29/cal...es-if-you-get-this-message-please-do-respond/

[Q] Choppy user interface

I have a weird problem with my N2. Overall it works great, battery is incredible, 3D games run smoothly, but the user interface is very choppy at times. Switching between home screens is great, no matter how fast I do it it's always buttery smooth, but opening an icons folder is choppy - I can definitely see the difference when tapping a folder with one row of icons and one with more rows. Also, if I'm downloading something, than it gets really choppy. Opening and closing apps is often choppy, yet in between that the apps work great.
If I'm watching a video and then tap the button to make the video smaller, first it disappears completely and then it flies out from the bottom right to the top. I did 2-3 factory resets, and everything is fluid as it should be after that, but the moment I start installing my apps, it becomes choppy. I don't use suspicious apps, and most are from recognized developers. The phone's rooted using the All in one toolkit, and Triangle Away was applied. Stock ROM is still on it. Memory usage is around 800Mb-1.2Gb. Battery saving is off. Sometimes I get FC's on TouchWiz.
It's just kinda weird, at times I feel like I'm running a low end device. It's responsive, but not fluid. I had Avast mobile on it and uninstalling that made it a lot better, but it's still not as fluid as the first day. Any ideas? TouchWiz problem or a bad app?

Give nova launcher a try. It's the best launcher I have ever used.
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I tried Go launcher and it was laggy as hell. I have no idea what's causing this, but it's not good.
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Hello, I'm sorry you're having issues. But might I ask that you flash one more time a completely stock ROM with NONE of your apps. Without rooting, install your apps and see if it's an OEM app from the Play Store. If that's not the case, then it's something you're doing on the side (an app you've installed while rooted or something that is acting up that has powerful user privileges).
See if that helps.

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Hello, I'm sorry you're having issues. But might I ask that you flash one more time a completely stock ROM with NONE of your apps. Without rooting, install your apps and see if it's an OEM app from the Play Store. If that's not the case, then it's something you're doing on the side (an app you've installed while rooted or something that is acting up that has powerful user privileges).
See if that helps.
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Hmm, can you be a bit specific about that? I understand what you're saying, except the "without rooting" part. The phone is already rooted, and with stock ROM - I rooted it, applied Triangle away and Root Exploit fix and reflashed stock recovery. No custom ROM has been flashed.
Now you say to flash stock ROM without rooting. That would mean I would have to unroot it now. Or what?
Something strange is definitely afoot - very demanding 3D games run buttery smooth, yet lightweight apps are laggy as hell - for instance, scrolling through list of POIs in Navfree app is painfully slow.

WM_Rizzo said:
Hmm, can you be a bit specific about that? I understand what you're saying, except the "without rooting" part. The phone is already rooted, and with stock ROM - I rooted it, applied Triangle away and Root Exploit fix and reflashed stock recovery. No custom ROM has been flashed.
Now you say to flash stock ROM without rooting. That would mean I would have to unroot it now. Or what?
Something strange is definitely afoot - very demanding 3D games run buttery smooth, yet lightweight apps are laggy as hell - for instance, scrolling through list of POIs in Navfree app is painfully slow.
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Yeah, if you reset your device to factory you'll lose ROOT. Try to use it without rooting your device. Completely stock. Put some samsung apps in a folder and see if it's still choppy... You'll have two possibilites.
If it is still choppy, then you have a problem with the ROM. Maybe you should try another one.
If it is smooth, then proceed to installing your apps (still without rooting your device) and then check to see if it's still smooth. If it isn't smooth after installing your apps then you have an app that's conflicting with your OS. If it is smooth then proceed to rooting. If you root and there is a problem, then something with the rooting process went wrong and it changed something or an app that you have is doing something strange with your OS. You could also try it the other way around. Flash again, root first thing, try the folders and see if that works. See what's causing the problem.
I know it's a long boring process, but ... it must be done! Another option is try a new ROM in general. Hope I've made myself clear this time take care & good luck!
Merry Xmas!

I unrooted it and am now completely stock (with the device status still being modified). Just stock apps are on the phone and it seems to be working ok. WIll see wha happens after installing some apps.
EDIT: I am now downloading updates for stock apps, and am definitely seeing some jerkiness when opening and closing apps, mainly Google apps.
Perhaps it really is the firmware that's causing the issue. My device came with N7100XXALIE N7100BUALI7 VFGALIA stock firmware, which is still on it, yet the only available stock firmware for my country and carrier is N7100XXALIJ N7100VFGALIC, and everyone seems to be using that one.

What can you do with a rooted galaxy s 3? And why should I root my galaxy s3

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Upgrade Android without having to wait on whenever T-mobile decide to do it. Cool themes, over clock, and it's legit, and easy.
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Rooting doesn't do anything magical, it just gives you super-user permissions. No, you don't get a cape with that.
Don't root it unless you have a reason. If you have a reason, go right on ahead as long as you understand the risks.
I only rooted my phone because I wanted to install Google Wallet. I'm rooting my TF101 because I want to try out non-stock ROMs for it.
Since I need TW's wifi calling, I'm happy with a launcher instead of a totally new ROM. I've used some apps that needed SU, but it wasn't really for anything 100% vital and I probably wouldn't have bothered if it wasn't for Google Wallet.
Don't have a reason, why bother ? Rooting doesn't do anything except get you root. It doesn't make the phone more awesomer.

The question should be "What can't you do with a rooted S3"
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there are a lot of bugs when rooting. navigation doesnt work very well. sometimes not at all....you'll be stuck on searching for location for 10 mins before you decide to exit out. it has a huge homescreen wakeup issue. sometimes you need to press the home button 4 times to wake up the phone. battery life is a bit better
there is no reason to root unless you get bored of how your phone looks. ive flashed almost every rom and their basically the same.
to sum it all up......if you want themes, make your phone look cool. have the phone run not as smooth then go ahead and root it.
my suggestion is root your phone install a custom rom for a week to see how you like it. you can always unroot it and go back to stock

If you have to ask you probably should just stay stock. Root comes with a lot of responsibility.
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track 1 said:
there are a lot of bugs when rooting. navigation doesnt work very well. sometimes not at all....you'll be stuck on searching for location for 10 mins before you decide to exit out. it has a huge homescreen wakeup issue. sometimes you need to press the home button 4 times to wake up the phone.
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ive been rooted since day one.. i have never seen a gps or lock screen issue... my gps locks within seconds and my home screen wakes up every time. only time ive seen an issue with the lock screen is when i was on cm 10.0 nightly. on that note like what every one else said root if you need it or want to try new roms or kernals. some apps require root but not many for everyday use.

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I used to have serious gps issues with a lot of ROMs on my SG2, but haven't encountered any yet with my SG3. No lock screen issues, and but to answer the man's question. What can you do with root? Whatever the f***k you want! Lol. Seriously though do some research. I just rooted my first phone a few months ago and now it's like an obsession trying out new ROMs, themes, and trying all kinds of stuff. It definitely comes with its dangers though. You really gotta read carefully and tread lightly. Hard Bricking your shiny new super expensive toy be a tragedy. Luckily I've never experienced that but with plenty of soft bricks (more than I'd care to admit) under my belt I will say if your not too great at trouble shooting then really think about if it's for you. As far as technical knowledge, I had none really. Rooted my SG2 2 weeks after I got it, and it was the very first android phone I had even ever used. There have been plenty of nights too where I spent half the night trying to fix my soft bricks, lol. Overall though I'm super glad I did root. Opened up a whole new past time for me, and the technological knowledge I'm gaining is just another skill to add to my market value. Hope that big ramble helps I some way at least

if you root your phone it will grow into a tree once water is applied

lolz. Very good question. And the answer is?
elflip88 said:
The question should be "What can't you do with a rooted S3"
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Go to YouTube and look for the xda channel and there is a recent video that very well explains why root
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I'm thinking about rooting my s3 as well. I mainly just want to extend my battery life and over lock my cpu. I'm still doing some research to see if I'm going to install a custom ROM or not.
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demonchildfp said:
I'm thinking about rooting my s3 as well. I mainly just want to extend my battery life and over lock my cpu. I'm still doing some research to see if I'm going to install a custom ROM or not.
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I'm not going to lie, I like knowing that when my s3 is over clocked, its faster than everyone else's around me but truth is, under clocking to 1.2ghz the phone will still be speedy and as time goes on you can over clock to get good performance from non Samsung supported ROMs. I rooted because I like tweaking phones. And I like aosp. So I have a custom tw ROM and a aosp to satisfy my needs. Also having tweaks too like gwallet, sound mods, edit build.prop and other things.
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moxis said:
ive been rooted since day one.. i have never seen a gps or lock screen issue... my gps locks within seconds and my home screen wakes up every time. only time ive seen an issue with the lock screen is when i was on cm 10.0 nightly. on that note like what every one else said root if you need it or want to try new roms or kernals. some apps require root but not many for everyday use.
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which method did you use to root your phone? I always had the lock screen issue and it annoys the crap out of me

EclipzeRemix said:
if you root your phone it will grow into a tree once water is applied
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Well said :good:

track 1 said:
which method did you use to root your phone? I always had the lock screen issue and it annoys the crap out of me
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Rooting does not impair any functions of the phone, nor does it cause hardware buttons to be unresponsive when pressed while the screen is off. The term "root" (when referring to Android) is perhaps the most misused term on the internet. Many people know exactly what root is, but few people correct someone when they misuse the term. This leads to a massive spread of misinformation that's impossible to stop.

Uninstall bloat!

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Once you root your phone, you can back up all your apps as well as the data within the apps. If you need to factory reset your phone, then all your data is there. You can also:
1. Change your boot screen to please your taste.
2. Get Tethering going for free.
3. Add Google Wallet and pay for things just by swiping your phone onthe register (where available).
4. Change the way your Gallery/Camera looks.
5. Back up your entire ROM just the way you like it.
6. Tweak your phone's setting in more ways I could mention (Like changing the position/color of the clock, battery, and other icons.
7. Try different modems to see which one works best in your area.
8. Many other things Imay have forgotten.

You'll be able to use your phone the way its meant to be used.

demonchildfp said:
I'm thinking about rooting my s3 as well. I mainly just want to extend my battery life and over lock my cpu. I'm still doing some research to see if I'm going to install a custom ROM or not.
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well worth it if you just want to extend your battery life. try to JB Frost rom.

Have you noticed...

Everyone wants to unlock their bootloader so they can run a custom ROM, the supposed purpose being to improve performance and gain new features. But then, once they get the new ROM on there, they keep posting about all the problems they are having, and how this, that or the other doesn't work as well as stock. After goofing with every, and I mean EVERY ROM available for the Razr M, IMHO there's absolutely no reason to use a custom ROM if you are expecting "like stock" performance. It's fun, it's addicting, it can get crazy sometimes, but don't expect it to ever be "Final". More than likely, it will be abandoned the moment a new phone or Android version comes along, and you'll be left with all those unsolved FCs and "almost works" features left hanging. Sad, really.
And then there's the whole "let's take the stock ROM from some other phone entirely and try to make it work on our phone" thing. I totally don't get that. If you like the Necco Choco-Android-o-rama's OS so well, why not just buy that phone instead? I'm just sayin'...
Rooting? That's totally different. I don't know what they do in other countries for bloatware, but Verizon certainly loads up some stinker software here in the US. Tell me, unless you're really into that sort of thing, why would the average shmoe care about Zappos? I certainly don't! And, if I wanted an app for NFL football, I'm perfectly capable of picking one from Google Play, yeah? Same with all the Amazon shtuff. Yeah I get it, advertising helps cover manufacturing costs, and all that jazz. Sure they do it to every new PC from Brand Name X too, but at least you can uninstall it. So rooting is sort of revenge for hogging my limited storage space and then limiting my ability to do anything about it.
And since I'm on this rant anyway, please... PLEASE!!! No more of this "Let's see if we can make our Android look like an iPhone" crap. Or worse, "Windows 8 Phone" crap! - Ewww! That's like taking a Jaguar and trying to make it look like a Ford Pinto... you might manage it, but who the heck would want it?
This rant has been a Public Service Announcement. The thoughts and views expressed herein are not to be considered... period. :silly:

You said it!
I linked to this from my restore where I have a commentary section.

I totally agree. Don't flash ROMs if your going to complain. Its one thing to report to the devs and quite another to ***** about it. And good on ya for the entire rant.
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I really hope the motox stock can be ported.
It would be a big event if he & others did it.
I thank them on each post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2412427

I originally rooted and unlocked my bootloader on this phone because of the screen shake issue that a Motorola introduced in an update if that didn't happen I may not of rooted the phone its stock ROM has such a good layout its no wonder so many complain. I however knew what I was getting into. Rule of thumb to new flashers backups are your friend and don't piss off the developers.

I like stock... de-bloat it and its good to go... just wish I could find something to mod the navi bar... remove the recent apps button replace it with the menu button and change color of it...
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well, the main reason why folks are not as excited about the new ROMs, is b/c there are not any ground-breaking features on the 4.2.2 or 4.3 operating systems. When I got my first android, I had Froyo. Folks were dying to get to Gingerbread in order to vastly increase performance/battery life.
the deal with Jelly Bean, is that the upgrade from stock 4.1.2 to 4.2.2 or 4.3 is minimal at best - and the changes are mostly aesthetics (although, I read that 4.3 has better bluetooth connectivity). but mostly, 4.2.2/4.3 are primarily geared towards tablets.
the race is on now to see what KitKat can bring to current phone users.
in terms of improvements, just as radorix said, these custom ROMs eliminated the shakes that I was getting on 4.1.2. so for me, while that was not a huge deal, it's enough for me to go custom.
personally, I like the tiles layout of 4.2.2 as well as the AOKP customization, so I'll stick with that for now given that my battery life/performance is stock-like.

*claps* You said it. The Razr M has actually been the first Android phone I owned where I've kept the stock ROM. I think it does fine with 4.1.2 atm, and if I really wanted a change I'd probably just theme it.

The only thing that matters to me is stability and speed. I like a fast phone and I like to o/c, push the phone. I like to test things and try to understand its problems rather than build myself because I don't have the time. If I can find the right medium between speed and stability it becomes my dd, naturally. But stock was built for a reason and every now and then I go back to 4.1.2 because I miss some of the features. Like the far left quick settings menu and Circle Clock. Why have to find a work around to add all these features and fixes to a reimagined custom OS that causes more problems when its already working? We wouldn't have anything to work with if we didn't have the source to start at!

Couldn't agree more. I've had 9 different android devices in the past 4 years. Only ones I haven't rooted are my Sony tablet s (original, don't even get me started with their abandonment of this thing, hey let's leave bugs, make a seemingly unlockable boot loader, not share any code, abandon it after realizing all the bugs exist, then support everything we make after it) and my original nexus 7. I too came back to a stock debloated deodexed ROM for the RAZR M.
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JPHoller said:
Couldn't agree more. I've had 9 different android devices in the past 4 years. Only ones I haven't rooted are my Sony tablet s (original, don't even get me started with their abandonment of this thing, hey let's leave bugs, make a seemingly unlockable boot loader, not share any code, abandon it after realizing all the bugs exist, then support everything we make after it) and my original nexus 7. I too came back to a stock debloated deodexed ROM for the RAZR M.
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Lol. Not the only Sammy device they've dropped. Heard of the Galaxy Player 4.2?
Oh and ezknives, you do realize the menu button is completely redundant right? Considering it pops up if needed and isn't even supported/required for Holo apps
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sloosecannon said:
Lol. Not the only Sammy device they've dropped. Heard of the Galaxy Player 4.2?
Oh and ezknives, you do realize the menu button is completely redundant right? Considering it pops up if needed and isn't even supported/required for Holo apps
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Not for me... with-in various apps it does not... when on different ROMs and I removed the multitasking feature and replaced it with a menu key I was able to utilize features that was other wise inaccessible... like deleting messages in Facebook app for instance... that cannot be done without a menu button or opening your browser and requesting the desktop site... I just need my menu key its never there when I need it...and I don't know what halo apps are nor use it I don't believe...
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ezknives said:
Not for me... with-in various apps it does not... when on different ROMs and I removed the multitasking feature and replaced it with a menu key I was able to utilize features that was other wise inaccessible... like deleting messages in Facebook app for instance... that cannot be done without a menu button or opening your browser and requesting the desktop site... I just need my menu key its never there when I need it...and I don't know what halo apps are nor use it I don't believe...
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Holo means apps designed for android 4.0+.
It's the ICS+ ui style. There should be a way to access the menu without a dedicated button - either built-in or by telling the system it's a legacy app that needs the settings button to appear
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netizenmt said:
Everyone wants to unlock their bootloader so they can run a custom ROM, the supposed purpose being to improve performance and gain new features. But then, once they get the new ROM on there, they keep posting about all the problems they are having, and how this, that or the other doesn't work as well as stock. After goofing with every, and I mean EVERY ROM available for the Razr M, IMHO there's absolutely no reason to use a custom ROM if you are expecting "like stock" performance. It's fun, it's addicting, it can get crazy sometimes, but don't expect it to ever be "Final". More than likely, it will be abandoned the moment a new phone or Android version comes along, and you'll be left with all those unsolved FCs and "almost works" features left hanging. Sad, really.
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Meh. I disagree. I've been running CM since it went official and I haven't had any complaints. I experience much-better-than-stock performance and battery life, plus it is way more customizable. I love it!

allc0re said:
Meh. I disagree. I've been running CM since it went official and I haven't had any complaints. I experience much-better-than-stock performance and battery life, plus it is way more customizable. I love it!
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I just tried it again. Froze on reboot, wouldn't let me into recovery, same BS as all the 4.3 versions. And I wrote the book, well thread, on how to install it, so yeah I wiped etc.
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i'm enjoying better than stock performance on the stable 4.2.2 branch, and i built a custom kernel for CM10.1 for better performance. I tried the 'stock' life and its boring lol. The custom ROM features and better performance are what makes it worth it in my view. 4.3 will be even better as work is continually being done on it, and it hasn't been out that long. Also, I think we need to give appreciation to the devs for giving us options as far as what we can run on this phone compared to being stuck with only one choice.

CM is getting good. Recently the "display freezing" issue got fixed, also more fixes for cardock audio and wifi. It simply takes a while to get it all done properly (with that what's left is SIM I/O and HDR (works with Moto X camera application)).
@netizenmt: Booting to recovery is not affected by the ROM you have installed, so you screwed up the installation at some point.

Skrilax_CZ said:
CM is getting good. Recently the "display freezing" issue got fixed, also more fixes for cardock audio and wifi. It simply takes a while to get it all done properly (with that what's left is SIM I/O and HDR (works with Moto X camera application)).
@netizenmt: Booting to recovery is not affected by the ROM you have installed, so you screwed up the installation at some point.
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Would you offer a build for a Bluetooth phone user that has the SD swap working?
One that might quiet this thread?

netizenmt said:
I just tried it again. Froze on reboot, wouldn't let me into recovery, same BS as all the 4.3 versions. And I wrote the book, well thread, on how to install it, so yeah I wiped etc.
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There are a few tricks to getting 4.3 installed and running but it will never happen if u just quite and go back to stock before u get it up and running correctly. I had a terrible time getting 4.3 to boot, keyboard forcing close, stability etc but I figured all that out and wouldn't think of going back to stock. The amount and way if partions the internal drive alone will keep me from ever going back to stock.
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stanlalee said:
There are a few tricks to getting 4.3 installed and running but it will never happen if u just quite and go back to stock before u get it up and running correctly. I had a terrible time getting 4.3 to boot, keyboard forcing close, stability etc but I figured all that out and wouldn't think of going back to stock. The amount and way if partions the internal drive alone will keep me from ever going back to stock.
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You actually just made my whole point.
While it's cool you had time, patience, skill and effort to resolve your issues with 4.3, that's not the point of this thread. So do I. The point is, if you think you're going to slap one of these ROMs on and everything is going to work like stock, forget it. If that's what someone expects, they should stick to stock.
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[Q] Note 4 Terrible Lag/Performance

I am posting here because I've been through countless forums, hearing many suggestions, but none has helped.
My issue, is lag, and performance issues on my Verizon Galaxy Note 4. At first, it was just a hiccup every now and again, which is Touchwiz, and I didn't really mind it. But now, it's to the point where I cannot experience a fully smooth experience. Every window that opens glitches out and stutters, scrolling freezes and jumps, the notification bar freezes and glitches out, keyboard typing is delayed, and Swype is slow and laggy.
So then, I read online that the Note 4 usually scores above 43,000 in AnTuTu benchmark. Mine scored 28,000. I've cleared the cache partition, I've deleted just about every singe app, I've disabled bloatware, I've done almost everything. There are a few things I DON'T want to do, which are:
- Change launchers. I don't want Nova, or anything else. I like Touchwiz, and I don't care about the occasional hiccup.
- Factory reset. I'd like this to be the last resort, since I already have many passwords, settings, pictures, and music stored on this device.
- Change window animation blahblah in developer options.
I'm starting to miss my Note 3. It ran much smoother, and faster even. What are my options from here? I'd greatly appreciate the help.

Unfortunately this seems to be a problem that plagues all Samsung android devices. That's why I quit buying Samsung products many years ago. Last week I decided to give them another go with the Note 4 and I do love the phone, but..... it's doing the same things you describe and that I have experienced before. Samsung puts too much bloat that you can't get rid of on the phone and I think that all of that on top of touch wiz just makes for a very poor user experience. I had the droid turbo previously and want to go back to it after only a week with this device.

Dang! I guess my only hope is for Lollipop to make things smoother.

My Note 4 started lagging almost immediately when it was brand new. I brought the device home, ran the initial setup (which did restore most of my google play store apps that I had used on my previous device), and the lag started almost immediately. I spent far too much time trying task killers, phone cleaners, clearing cache, etc., etc. I finally bit the bullet and did a factory reset.
Doing a factory reset really helped a lot. I did make sure to turn off auto update and auto restore in Google Play Store first. After completing the initial setup I manually installed ONLY the apps that I use regularly .
Factory resetting is a bit of a pain, but not really all that bad. I think it is probably required to solve your problem.
Debloating the uneeded preinstalled apps helps too. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2998294 for instructions on how to debloat the Note 4 without requiring root (or voiding your warranty).
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Alrighty, thanks. I'm working on backing up music and passwords now, and planning on doing a factory reset very soon. And thanks for the link to that debloater software, I'll be sure to try that.

Hardware-related?
Sorry but the Touchwiz is terrible stuff is overblown. I haven't really had any stuttering after months of owning the device. The Note 4 came with the slimmest Touchwiz to date and, as you say, the Note 3 had no problems with performance. Yes, its good to debloat, but what you are experiencing seems to be more serious. The fact that your Antutu benchmark isn't close to where it should be is a red flag. My 910V registers 46680. If a factory reset doesn't work, you may try to return it or contact Samsung to see what options you have available to you.

KamajiH said:
I am posting here because I've been through countless forums, hearing many suggestions, but none has helped.
My issue, is lag, and performance issues on my Verizon Galaxy Note 4. At first, it was just a hiccup every now and again, which is Touchwiz, and I didn't really mind it. But now, it's to the point where I cannot experience a fully smooth experience. Every window that opens glitches out and stutters, scrolling freezes and jumps, the notification bar freezes and glitches out, keyboard typing is delayed, and Swype is slow and laggy.
So then, I read online that the Note 4 usually scores above 43,000 in AnTuTu benchmark. Mine scored 28,000. I've cleared the cache partition, I've deleted just about every singe app, I've disabled bloatware, I've done almost everything. There are a few things I DON'T want to do, which are:
- Change launchers. I don't want Nova, or anything else. I like Touchwiz, and I don't care about the occasional hiccup.
- Factory reset. I'd like this to be the last resort, since I already have many passwords, settings, pictures, and music stored on this device.
- Change window animation blahblah in developer options.
I'm starting to miss my Note 3. It ran much smoother, and faster even. What are my options from here? I'd greatly appreciate the help.
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holy**** i was just browsing around forums and i saw this
i have a note 2 on kitkat and it scores 31000 on touchwiz (Ditto note 4 rom)
amazing performace on note 2 thats why i didnt even feel the need to buy note 3 or 4
i dont think touchwiz is the problem specially for a device like note 4
You could try these things to get better performance
use custom kernel and use high freq (Nadia kernel in your case)
root you device and delete all waste apps from system/app and system/priv-app
OR
flash a deodexed rom
Worth case scenario you may have a slow internal storage causing all the lag and problems in that case backup your data and flash a stock rom and re flash a partition table for your device
this would definately solve your problem (had this problem on tab 2 10.1 and this last method worked for me)

Ashwin Prabhunerurkar said:
holy**** i was just browsing around forums and i saw this
i have a note 2 on kitkat and it scores 31000 on touchwiz (Ditto note 4 rom)
amazing performace on note 2 thats why i didnt even feel the need to buy note 3 or 4
i dont think touchwiz is the problem specially for a device like note 4
You could try these things to get better performance
use custom kernel and use high freq (Nadia kernel in your case)
root you device and delete all waste apps from system/app and system/priv-app
OR
flash a deodexed rom
Worth case scenario you may have a slow internal storage causing all the lag and problems in that case backup your data and flash a stock rom and re flash a partition table for your device
this would definately solve your problem (had this problem on tab 2 10.1 and this last method worked for me)
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Unfortunately, none of these are currently an option because the Verizon Note 4 is currently not rootable and the bootloader is also locked.

Anzion said:
Unfortunately, none of these are currently an option because the Verizon Note 4 is currently not rootable and the bootloader is also locked.
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if it is happening only to you then my guess is it is an hardware problem and get your device replaced
but better backup your device as the verizon people will want to format your device and reflash it before they declare it as a bad device and replace it

KamajiH said:
Alrighty, thanks. I'm working on backing up music and passwords now, and planning on doing a factory reset very soon. And thanks for the link to that debloater software, I'll be sure to try that.
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Good luck, hope this works for you. Please let us know if this solves your problem, or not.
Fyi: My Note 4 gets an AnTuTu Benchmark score of 47315 (free app available from Google Play).
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Not sure if this is still an issue, but make sure none of your battery saving functions are active. Settings -> Power -> power saving mode, make sure that's off. Just a thought

KamajiH said:
I am posting here because I've been through countless forums, hearing many suggestions, but none has helped.
My issue, is lag, and performance issues on my Verizon Galaxy Note 4. At first, it was just a hiccup every now and again, which is Touchwiz, and I didn't really mind it. But now, it's to the point where I cannot experience a fully smooth experience. Every window that opens glitches out and stutters, scrolling freezes and jumps, the notification bar freezes and glitches out, keyboard typing is delayed, and Swype is slow and laggy.
So then, I read online that the Note 4 usually scores above 43,000 in AnTuTu benchmark. Mine scored 28,000. I've cleared the cache partition, I've deleted just about every singe app, I've disabled bloatware, I've done almost everything. There are a few things I DON'T want to do, which are:
- Change launchers. I don't want Nova, or anything else. I like Touchwiz, and I don't care about the occasional hiccup.
- Factory reset. I'd like this to be the last resort, since I already have many passwords, settings, pictures, and music stored on this device.
- Change window animation blahblah in developer options.
I'm starting to miss my Note 3. It ran much smoother, and faster even. What are my options from here? I'd greatly appreciate the help.
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I just Antutu'd mine and got around 39,000 . Then I cleared cache and ram and the restarted, . After the test ran faster, can't say twice as fast just faster. The results were 40,0007. According to the comparisons mine was 5 below the listing for the Note 4. the one item that did bother me is that the S5 was listed one model ahead of mine, but 4 models away from the listed Note 4.
In your case there must be apps running that you don't know of. You have to check running apps in the app manager. Just look on the "ALL" listing and turn off any that you can turn off and don't need. Many of them show " Turn off" but it's grayed out which is total bs to me. Plus from some web searching I've read that the new S6 may be bloat free
Lastly, use Greenify- go to settings/assesibility/Greenify
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Doing a factory reset seems to have solved the problem. Also, I didn't sync all my apps over, so that may have caused the problem the first time.
I'm actually scoring good, too. Thank you guys for helping!

bond32 said:
Not sure if this is still an issue, but make sure none of your battery saving functions are active. Settings -> Power -> power saving mode, make sure that's off. Just a thought
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That was the culprit in my case. Huge change that took my model to the top on the list registering 49,987. I'll leave it off for a day or 2 and see what happens to the battery performance. While using the power saver the battery has been stellar. From off the charger at 7:30 am Id have 65% by 7 pm

As far as lag, to get rid of it just set Window, Transition and Animator scale to "off" under Developer options and you should be good to go. I've done that since the S3 days no problem and phone gets waay faster.

So here we go again, it's lagging terribly again. The only different thing I did, was install the negative color notification widget from the Samsung store (which I didn't even do last time), so that can't be why it's lagging. There is literally no explanation.
And yeah, I've tried turning off window animation, and etc. That only got rid of opening window lag. But I'm still lagging hard everywhere else.

I have no lag issues at all. This Note 4 is the smoothest operating Samsung phone that I have ever owned. Here's my results:
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I would send it back to Verizon. Must be a hardware problem I'm guessing. Good luck
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KamajiH said:
So here we go again, it's lagging terribly again. The only different thing I did, was install the negative color notification widget from the Samsung store (which I didn't even do last time), so that can't be why it's lagging. There is literally no explanation.
And yeah, I've tried turning off window animation, and etc. That only got rid of opening window lag. But I'm still lagging hard everywhere else.
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You could try Greenify (free version should be fine) and see which apps it suggests be hibernated. Just don't hibernate anything that generates notifications that you need. This has helped me in the past. Some apps like Facebook are notorious for causing battery drain. I uninstalled FB and use a browser link (saved to my home screen) to check my account when I want.

I have no idea what you guys did to your phone mine flirts with 50,000 on antutu every time and is like butter and runs so so cool

oneandroidnut said:
I have no idea what you guys did to your phone mine flirts with 50,000 on antutu every time and is like butter and runs so so cool
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You're right on the Antutu, mine is about the same.
Maybe who ever has an issue should state on where and what part of the phone
examples-
Internet access and page return speed- connection related
Email access and refresh speed- same as above
Screen swiping speed- Touch wiz, try Nova
Stock apps performance- one's that don't need Int access and ones that do- possibly here could lie the issue
Texting - sending/ receiving ?- with Verizon this is purely connection related
Also, whoever suggested to kill the Face book app , you're 100% right. I use a link now and the whole phone works better
Last- I use the Samsung app- Vitamins. For me, I use is the system cleanup. This goes along with the left menu button clean up and Greenify