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Hi all.
Been an Android user for about as long as it's been out there and I have almost always rooted and installed custom ROM's on my devices. Last year I finally managed to convince the wife to upgrade to Android (enter the ARC S). She was delighted but the phone was always a bit slugish. When the ICS update came out I pressed her to upgrade because I thought she would benefit from the upgrade and the speeds might improve. So after a few months she finally gave in and about 2 weeks ago I did the upgrade. Aaaaaaannnndddddd that's when it all went to hell. Her phone is slow. Soooooo painfully slow that even an old HTC Desire loaded with a Sense 3.5 / 4 ROM is outperforming it by miles. She is mad. Soooooo very mad at me since then for having made her phone all that much worse. Reading up on it I know now that the upgrade was a bust and that Sony dropped the ball with this one.
So now I am looking to redeem myself. Usually I'd just root the phone, slap on some recovery software and flash away a couple of ROM's and choose from them. But this device seems to be not so straight forward. So I am turning to the community for help. What I am looking to do is install a custom ROM that is smooth and fast and will stay that way for as long as possible. Preferably one that is JB based and as easy to get on the device as possible. Now I know that when this question gets put out there people are often greeted with the "flash 'em and try" response, but my wife is reluctant to let me do anything else to her phone, let alone experiment with many a ROM. So I am asking for opinions. Any ROM as long as it's fast. The ROM that gets the most positive opinions wins and that is what I'll flash and hopefully save my marriage
Please keep in mind the phone is SIM locked and not rooted. It's basically an original ARC S with ICS on it. I have no recovery or rooting experience with this device, so it would be lovely if this could be done simply. I don't really want to over complicate things and risk gorking the thing even more.
Thanks in advance to all you members out there!
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You could just have Googled best rom arc s and read one of the numerous threads on the subject, and these threads are just another variation of best rom threads which are also now starting to build up. Root and and remove crap, few build.prop and init.d tweaks and you'll have a nippy Phone that works as it should, install a custom ROM then she isn't going to be happy when something doesn't work and you're constantly taking it of her to sort it out.
XperienceD said:
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You could just have Googled best rom arc s and read one of the numerous threads on the subject, and these threads are just another variation of best rom threads which are also now starting to build up. Root and and remove crap, few build.prop and init.d tweaks and you'll have a nippy Phone that works as it should, install a custom ROM then she isn't going to be happy when something doesn't work and you're constantly taking it of her to sort it out.
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I did. And I actually considered (still am tbh) the Ultimate HD. But thought maybe there was something out there better and no frills. As for the root and decrap option, that's actually a pretty good idea. But won't the crap just load back? I mean, on most roms when I remove the bloatware it just loads up again via market. As for build.prop I don't know much. Could you just tip me a thread topic or what not and I will search. Or topics even.
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Pitbull_Raven said:
I did. And I actually considered (still am tbh) the Ultimate HD. But thought maybe there was something out there better and no frills. As for the root and decrap option, that's actually a pretty good idea. But won't the crap just load back? I mean, on most roms when I remove the bloatware it just loads up again via market. As for build.prop I don't know much. Could you just tip me a thread topic or what not and I will search. Or topics even.
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Best thing is to try honestly (I wouldn't say ultimate hd is a bad choice )
And bloatware wouldn't load back once you've removed them so dont worry
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jman2131 said:
Best thing is to try honestly (I wouldn't say ultimate hd is a bad choice )
And bloatware wouldn't load back once you've removed them so dont worry
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Thanks. Will have to consider it.
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Try Ultimate HD 2.0.3 / Xperia T ROM
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Thanks. Will have to consider it.
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I have been using that ROM for around a week now and my phone is faster than ever.. The only issue seems to be in sending items via bluetooth (accept works smooth, but the option in send via is missing). But if your wife doesn't use that much bluetooth file sharing, then I'd recommend this ROM. Another good choice would be XPERIA T ROM for Arc S - Comparatively its a tad bit slower (not noticeable) but loads of more features (WalkMan has GraceNote, ClearAudio. Album has SenseMe etc.) Both are stable for daily use.
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I have been using that ROM for around a week now and my phone is faster than ever.. The only issue seems to be in sending items via bluetooth (accept works smooth, but the option in send via is missing). But if your wife doesn't use that much bluetooth file sharing, then I'd recommend this ROM. Another good choice would be XPERIA T ROM for Arc S - Comparatively its a tad bit slower (not noticeable) but loads of more features (WalkMan has GraceNote, ClearAudio. Album has SenseMe etc.) Both are stable for daily use.
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Thank you for the input. Bluetooth is not an issue. She rarely uses it at all. So yes, I'll keep it in mind. I'll have to decide till tomorrow morning seeing as how I am going to try to get it done over the weekend. To those of you that took the time to reply, my thanks!
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Thank you for the input. Bluetooth is not an issue. She rarely uses it at all. So yes, I'll keep it in mind. I'll have to decide till tomorrow morning seeing as how I am going to try to get it done over the weekend. To those of you that took the time to reply, my thanks!
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So did you install one finally??
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So did you install one finally??
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Actually, no. She forbade me
I'm guessing she's scared it'll just get worse or I'll mess it up even more. She won't even allow me to root it. At this point, I am hoping that some official fix comes along so that I can at least get her phone back to acceptable status. It's sooooooo slow. My old HTC Desire flies like a bat with a lit match stuck up it's butt compared to her Arc S right now. I mean, pulling up the phone dialer takes literally between 7 to 17 seconds to open just the dialer. And don't even dare to tap "contacts" because it can take you the best part of 30 seconds to see them appear.
SONY didn't just drop the ball with releasing this update; they bloody well stabbed it with a hunting knife to deflate it first so the ball would never bounce again... and then they dropped it.
Really, I am so sad for her every time I see her trying to do something on her phone. She used to love it. Now I see her turning away from it every chance she gets. It's really heartbreaking, and I am not trying to be funny. It really does pain me to see this happen.
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Actually, no. She forbade me
I'm guessing she's scared it'll just get worse or I'll mess it up even more. She won't even allow me to root it. At this point, I am hoping that some official fix comes along so that I can at least get her phone back to acceptable status. It's sooooooo slow. My old HTC Desire flies like a bat with a lit match stuck up it's butt compared to her Arc S right now. I mean, pulling up the phone dialer takes literally between 7 to 17 seconds to open just the dialer. And don't even dare to tap "contacts" because it can take you the best part of 30 seconds to see them appear.
SONY didn't just drop the ball with releasing this update; they bloody well stabbed it with a hunting knife to deflate it first so the ball would never bounce again... and then they dropped it.
Really, I am so sad for her every time I see her trying to do something on her phone. She used to love it. Now I see her turning away from it every chance she gets. It's really heartbreaking, and I am not trying to be funny. It really does pain me to see this happen.
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Yes, and atheistically Arc S is an awesome phone. And since its good under the hood as well, with a good custom FW, it really flies. My condolences to you my friend. However I have used Arc with stock FW as well, hence will suggest you some tips to enhance performance
1. Disable FaceBook Inside Xperia - It lags the system like hell
2. Remove the Timescape widget and live wallpapers if set.
3. Disable AutoSync if possible or keep it on for accounts other than FaceBook
4. Clear messages and call history a few days - I know it sounds strange - but it sure used to speed up my Arc.
5. Using tools like App Cache Cleaner and RAM Booster can help speed it up
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Yes, and atheistically Arc S is an awesome phone. And since its good under the hood as well, with a good custom FW, it really flies. My condolences to you my friend. However I have used Arc with stock FW as well, hence will suggest you some tips to enhance performance
1. Disable FaceBook Inside Xperia - It lags the system like hell
2. Remove the Timescape widget and live wallpapers if set.
3. Disable AutoSync if possible or keep it on for accounts other than FaceBook
4. Clear messages and call history a few days - I know it sounds strange - but it sure used to speed up my Arc.
5. Using tools like App Cache Cleaner and RAM Booster can help speed it up
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Thanks for those tips. Will surely come in handy. How can I disable FB in the Arc? I know how to remove the account, but I think it's somehow integrated into the ROM, right? Is that what you meant?
Pitbull_Raven said:
Thanks for those tips. Will surely come in handy. How can I disable FB in the Arc? I know how to remove the account, but I think it's somehow integrated into the ROM, right? Is that what you meant?
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He didn't mean Facebook itself, but Facebook inside Xperia. It's that awesome feature that let's you do things you don't need to... seriously. I don't remember well where it is in settings, but it is there (I flashed a custom JB rom so I can't tell you where it is). I guess it was in "Xperia" but I'm not sure on that one. Autosync takes a huge amount of the guilt for making it slower, allow it only when you enable wifi, if possible. Check RAM usage, and look for apps that are not in use, and uninstall them.
If you really want it fast, then why not flashing a GB lightweighted Rom or even the debloated stock one? There are quite a few around here that you can flash. Just check the development section. It won't have a lot of features as ICS does, but as this phone was designed for GB, it will run in a decent way.
I used Ultimate HD for a while, and let me tell you, it was great. It offers very nice features. 5x4 apps drawer like in Xperia T (also Xperia T's boot animation); very nice design; on-screen buttons at choice; quick toggle panel (that is really handy); walkman app; new calendar app; the new album app that allows you to see the photos on map (if geotag was allowed when taken); included overclocking tool; and much more, being quite fast at the same time. I just switched to JB for the sake of feeling JB in my hand! But of course, if I see that it doesn't suit me well, I'm going back to ICS, back to UHD.
If you really want to make it faster, your best choice is to convince her to flash a custom ROM. Stock is well aesthetically designed, but as you said yourself, laggy as hell. Some of those custom ROMs are even able to be used with locked bootloader (although I would recommend to unlock the bootloader, check link at my signature from the android soul community). My suggestion: Read. She won't, you will. The chances of schrewing it up are lower if you inform yourself of the risks. I usually do this: I read the OP, and then I go to the last 5 pages, and read some repplies. It tells me whether people are having issues recently, or if there's a common issue.
Good luck convincing her :fingers-crossed:
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He didn't mean Facebook itself, but Facebook inside Xperia. It's that awesome feature that let's you do things you don't need to... seriously. I don't remember well where it is in settings, but it is there (I flashed a custom JB rom so I can't tell you where it is). I guess it was in "Xperia" but I'm not sure on that one. Autosync takes a huge amount of the guilt for making it slower, allow it only when you enable wifi, if possible. Check RAM usage, and look for apps that are not in use, and uninstall them.
If you really want it fast, then why not flashing a GB lightweighted Rom or even the debloated stock one? There are quite a few around here that you can flash. Just check the development section. It won't have a lot of features as ICS does, but as this phone was designed for GB, it will run in a decent way.
I used Ultimate HD for a while, and let me tell you, it was great. It offers very nice features. 5x4 apps drawer like in Xperia T (also Xperia T's boot animation); very nice design; on-screen buttons at choice; quick toggle panel (that is really handy); walkman app; new calendar app; the new album app that allows you to see the photos on map (if geotag was allowed when taken); included overclocking tool; and much more, being quite fast at the same time. I just switched to JB for the sake of feeling JB in my hand! But of course, if I see that it doesn't suit me well, I'm going back to ICS, back to UHD.
If you really want to make it faster, your best choice is to convince her to flash a custom ROM. Stock is well aesthetically designed, but as you said yourself, laggy as hell. Some of those custom ROMs are even able to be used with locked bootloader (although I would recommend to unlock the bootloader, check link at my signature from the android soul community). My suggestion: Read. She won't, you will. The chances of schrewing it up are lower if you inform yourself of the risks. I usually do this: I read the OP, and then I go to the last 5 pages, and read some repplies. It tells me whether people are having issues recently, or if there's a common issue.
Good luck convincing her :fingers-crossed:
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Oh wow, thanks for the info! This thread is actually becoming more helpful then I expected. You can bet I'll keep trying to convince her. Also I'll check the FB issue and see if I can get something sorted.
Pitbull_Raven said:
Oh wow, thanks for the info! This thread is actually becoming more helpful then I expected. You can bet I'll keep trying to convince her. Also I'll check the FB issue and see if I can get something sorted.
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Good luck on that one :highfive: And don't forget to click thanks on the posts that you found helpful
So good news! She finally had enough and can't stand the slowness anymore. I have the go ahead to do what I want to the device. So now everything is an option. So from what I gathered so far, first I must unlock bootloader. But this means formating the data partition, thus loosing everything.
Is it at all possible to root first so I can Titanium Backup the hell out of this phone first? LT18i running stock 4.0.4 and 4.1.B.0.587.
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Pitbull_Raven said:
So good news! She finally had enough and can't stand the slowness anymore. I have the go ahead to do what I want to the device. So now everything is an option. So from what I gathered so far, first I must unlock bootloader. But this means formating the data partition, thus loosing everything.
Is it at all possible to root first so I can Titanium Backup the hell out of this phone first? LT18i running stock 4.0.4 and 4.1.B.0.587.
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Yes. root it, backup your apps using titanium backup. (i recommend paid version) backup contacts and sms also. unlock your bootloader, flash custom kernel, (i recommend rush kernel), do full wipe (wipe absolutely everything except sd card of course since your backups are all there.) flash custom rom (preferably stock based roms since they are more stable. Try ultimate hd or jelly sandwich).
boot up for the first time, first boot usually slower. Complete First time setup, let it sit for awhile, like 5 minutes, install titanium, restore apps and contacts, make sure the apps are working. Some apps like line won't work after restoring with data from titanium and I had to clear it's app data first. set cpu governor to performance and add a bit of overclock (1.5 or 1.6). she won't know what these are anyway and she'd stop whining about lags. remember to set to overclock on boot. reboot phone and you're done.
I do this for my girl too. I'd still recommend ultimate hd 2.0.3. but you should mess around with the settings to see what it has to offer first. And also remember to search within their threads to find current unfixed bugs and their solutions.
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Yes. root it, backup your apps using titanium backup. (i recommend paid version) backup contacts and sms also. unlock your bootloader, flash custom kernel, (i recommend rush kernel), do full wipe (wipe absolutely everything except sd card of course since your backups are all there.) flash custom rom (preferably stock based roms since they are more stable. Try ultimate hd or jelly sandwich).
boot up for the first time, first boot usually slower. Complete First time setup, let it sit for awhile, like 5 minutes, install titanium, restore apps and contacts, make sure the apps are working. Some apps like line won't work after restoring with data from titanium and I had to clear it's app data first. set cpu governor to performance and add a bit of overclock (1.5 or 1.6). she won't know what these are anyway and she'd stop whining about lags. remember to set to overclock on boot. reboot phone and you're done.
I do this for my girl too. I'd still recommend ultimate hd 2.0.3. but you should mess around with the settings to see what it has to offer first. And also remember to search within their threads to find current unfixed bugs and their solutions.
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Very helpful. Thanks. I have TB paid version, so it shouldn't be a problem. Was just wondering how to root without unlocking boot first. I can see many a tutorial, but all seem to tell how to unlock bl first.
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you don't need to unlock bl to root... and once you unlock bl you won't need to root because most custom roms and kernels come pre-rooted. use flashtool to root. download flashtool if you haven't already. It's like the all in one toolbox if you're just a user.
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Will definitely look into it. Many thanks.
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First off, kudos to Chilly for allowing me to use JB on my Dinc2. Thought I was going to be stuck on CM7 until an upgrade. Now, maybe I can use the upgrade so the teenage daughters will have fancyphones (a bill with four smartphones would be an ugly thing, though).
I flashed the newest PAC3 and wanted to see if anyone else was experiencing any of the few bugs I've run into (I first just updated, saw some of these problems so I wiped and installed, but they persisted).
1. SystemUI crashes: I saw a mention of this on the development thread, but it seems isolated? On that thread it was mentioned that it would restart, but mine doesn't always restart (or, at least, restart quickly). It seems like it will restart when there is a new notification, but not always. No particular pattern to when it crashes, either. I didn't have this problem on the May builds.
2. It seems like there is a longer-than-usual lag after disconnecting from WiFi before it picks up mobile data. Again, not something I noticed on the earlier builds. I use Tasker/Profile4Tasker with the CM profiles, and I thought it might have something to do with that, but I've got it set now so that all profiles allow mobile data.
Other than some general lagginess at startup on some apps, everything else seems to be working. The SystemUI crash is the biggest hurdle; it basically renders the phone unusable until it decides to restart or I reboot.
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First off, kudos to Chilly for allowing me to use JB on my Dinc2. Thought I was going to be stuck on CM7 until an upgrade. Now, maybe I can use the upgrade so the teenage daughters will have fancyphones (a bill with four smartphones would be an ugly thing, though).
I flashed the newest PAC3 and wanted to see if anyone else was experiencing any of the few bugs I've run into (I first just updated, saw some of these problems so I wiped and installed, but they persisted).
1. SystemUI crashes: I saw a mention of this on the development thread, but it seems isolated? On that thread it was mentioned that it would restart, but mine doesn't always restart (or, at least, restart quickly). It seems like it will restart when there is a new notification, but not always. No particular pattern to when it crashes, either. I didn't have this problem on the May builds.
2. It seems like there is a longer-than-usual lag after disconnecting from WiFi before it picks up mobile data. Again, not something I noticed on the earlier builds. I use Tasker/Profile4Tasker with the CM profiles, and I thought it might have something to do with that, but I've got it set now so that all profiles allow mobile data.
Other than some general lagginess at startup on some apps, everything else seems to be working. The SystemUI crash is the biggest hurdle; it basically renders the phone unusable until it decides to restart or I reboot.
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System ui is just the status bar and such nothing terminal or anything and yeah no telling when it will happen or what triggers it. I use a different launcher than trebuchet like apex or at times nova which helps semi with the lag. another way is also trickster mod from the play store to OC the kernel and apply at boot or even the "other" kernel thats floating around.. hey our phones ain't young anymore things slow down as we get older so will our phones... Yeah thanx to @chillybean our phones are Jelly Beaning like a boss
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System ui is just the status bar and such nothing terminal or anything and yeah no telling when it will happen or what triggers it. I use a different launcher than trebuchet like apex or at times nova which helps semi with the lag. another way is also trickster mod from the play store to OC the kernel and apply at boot or even the "other" kernel thats floating around.. hey our phones ain't young anymore things slow down as we get older so will our phones... Yeah thanx to @chillybean our phones are Jelly Beaning like a boss
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Thanks for the tips. I didn't realize another launcher might help with the lag....I actually was _not_ using one thinking it would have the opposite effect. I also am trying Trickster MOD.
Ok, so I just rooted my tablet, my first time too. But I have a few questions.
I have no idea what custom recovery is? How do I get it, and what are some apps and stuff I should not do before I get it.
What are some apps you recommend? Keyboard apps, uh...any apps I guess.
My biggest question is, I downloaded a emulator called dolphin emulator, so I could play the old gamecube Pokemon Colosseum. But it wont work. I do not know if any of you use this program, but any help would be appreciated. The game actually starts, shows the nintendo symbol, goes to a weird grey screeen instead of the studios logo animation, and then turns black. The fps is around 21, and during audio or the grey screen, it goes to 13 - 15 fps. Any Ideas on what might be wrong? Maybe RAM or something of that nature.
What are things like Nova and Apex?
Also, what do i need to do to install roms? What should I have before I install a rom? And what kind of roms do you recommend?
um...and I guess anything else you could tell a complete rookie. I have no idea what I'm doing. OTL
also, what is the bloatware that i can get rid of?
ugh, basically, what have you done for your rooted note? What are some things you would recommend to another person for their device.
and for some reason i cant download SetCPU, so I downloaded CPU Tuner. What are some settings you recommend.
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Ok, so I just rooted my tablet, my first time too. But I have a few questions.
I have no idea what custom recovery is? How do I get it, and what are some apps and stuff I should not do before I get it.
What are some apps you recommend? Keyboard apps, uh...any apps I guess.
My biggest question is, I downloaded a emulator called dolphin emulator, so I could play the old gamecube Pokemon Colosseum. But it wont work. I do not know if any of you use this program, but any help would be appreciated. The game actually starts, shows the nintendo symbol, goes to a weird grey screeen instead of the studios logo animation, and then turns black. The fps is around 21, and during audio or the grey screen, it goes to 13 - 15 fps. Any Ideas on what might be wrong? Maybe RAM or something of that nature.
What are things like Nova and Apex?
Also, what do i need to do to install roms? What should I have before I install a rom? And what kind of roms do you recommend?
um...and I guess anything else you could tell a complete rookie. I have no idea what I'm doing. OTL
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also, what is the bloatware that i can get rid of?
ugh, basically, what have you done for your rooted note? What are some things you would recommend to another person for their device.
and for some reason i cant download SetCPU, so I downloaded CPU Tuner. What are some settings you recommend.
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Ok, my first bit of advice is to start reading. Things like custom recovery are easily figured out with a little research. As far as I know, the only custom recovery we have for our tablets is TWRP 2.6.x.x, not sure what version they are on now since I am not using it.
As for what to do after root, that is up to you. Get the pro version of Titanium Backup, and SuperSU at the very least, they will be very important if you want to freeze/delete bloatware and modify your phone at all.
Can't help you with the Pokemon thing.
Nova and Apex are launchers. Try them out and see if you like one better than the stock launcher. I run Nova on mine.
To install a ROM, you will need to first download TWRP, then flash the ROM. Read the directions for flashing the ROM fully before you do anything.
As for bloatware, start by freezing things you don't use in TiBu, and go from there.
In all honesty, you need to read, read, read and then read some more. You don't want to turn your tablet into a $600+ paperweight.
As for me? I am rooted running the stock ROM, Nova Prime launcher, and I froze a bunch of bloat. It is plenty fast, smooth, stable, and it looks great.
lol the dolphin emulator won't work because it requires an extremely powerful machine. It will only work with maybe 2 or 3 devices currently.
The developer posted this in the app description:
"If you're expecting reasonable speeds out of this, you are sorely mistaken. This will run slow on every single Android device, no matter if it is the most powerful one in the world.
Some caveats
- It will crash. Alot.
- It might need to be force closed and ran multiple times to work.
- It will run slow"
Why immediately install new ROMs? There are no many ROMS for this device anyway. Rooting will help you to freeze unnecessary Samsung software, as already mentioned above (using Titanium). To try different launchers (Nova, etc.) you don't need to be rooted, just install and play with them. You have a powerful machine, learn to use it, use all the features (S Pen, multi-window, pen window, etc.) before playing with other ROMs.
Since you are rooted you must get this app:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2646432
Makes multi window way more useful.
Also Xposed Framework and multi window manager so that you can add any application to the multi window menu.
Actually there are a lot of cool things you can do with Xposed.
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Is anyone else annoyed at the 2-3 second delay in showing recent apps that I experience from time to time. As a matter of fact it never opens very fast, at least 1-2 seconds. If so is there a fix our should I hope that when lollipop comes to the note 4 it will fix it.
There is a noticeable delay with mine as well.
Moved to Q&A.
This has happened to me but in every aspect of the phone. Rooted, no xposed, and only non-essential bloatware/update services uninstalled.
It is only for 1/2 a second or so, but the phone glitches like it is thinking hard then will complete the action. I even unrooted and reflashed my stock rom backup and still have it.
Probably going to return it today or tomorrow as my 14 day grace period ends. Pretty sad. I've tried just about everything to get it to stop and thought my stock rom would solve the problem, alas, no.
Still stock and not rooted (yet) and have the same annoying lag. Everything else is quick though.
It's the only issue i have with the phone, everything else has been great. I'm sure this will be addressed in a future update unless it's that way for a reason.
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Itchiee said:
It's the only issue i have with the phone, everything else has been great. I'm sure this will be addressed in a future update unless it's that way for a reason.
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Same here. Hope they do something about it.
I've noticed mine is doing the same.. Is there a Task Manager app available that will allow you to see apps running in real time similar to that which comes with Windoze operating systems? In my opinion, this would help me see what is actually lagging when it does lag.
I found this from another thread here at XDA.. Am going to give it a shot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56320983&postcount=2
The link above is actually the fix for Xposed framework causing lag. Might help. Another help is turning off the animation which adds 1.5 seconds. Goto Settings/About phone/tap the build# several times until it declares you have developer options. Open developer options from the settings menu and find the animations and set to 0. Now the delay is down to one second even with Xposed framework. Solved.
One more thing, the build.prop may also need to be modified if running rooted stock. It took some googling and fixing but I finally got ADB working with the Starkissed kernel, ADB insecure and build.prop mods.
I don't have exposed installed and I have the lag as well. Watched and applied the fixes on this video and my Note 4 is way quicker! Totally amped!
http://youtu.be/RAXtjgrfgEY
touch_rules said:
I don't have exposed installed and I have the lag as well. Watched and applied the fixes on this video and my Note 4 is way quicker! Totally amped!
http://youtu.be/RAXtjgrfgEY
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I've tried all of that and I still get lag.
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I've tried all of that and I still get lag.
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Strange, have you always had the same lag or has it gotten worse? After those few changes mine is very responsive. I'm also not using TouchWiz, I'm using Nova Launcher. Wonder if that makes a difference.
Are you rooted? I've heard some strange things about lag after rooting which does not make me happy. This is probably the longest I've gone without rooting and I'm getting the itch
touch_rules said:
Strange, have you always had the same lag or has it gotten worse? After those few changes mine is very responsive. I'm also not using TouchWiz, I'm using Nova Launcher. Wonder if that makes a difference.
Are you rooted? I've heard some strange things about lag after rooting which does not make me happy. This is probably the longest I've gone without rooting and I'm getting the itch
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Most likely from people doing things and using files intended for different models and wondering why crap doesnt work right amd coming back to the sprint forums with odd problems...... Scratch that itch, root and follow the steps mentioned on Numerous posts for getting rid of the lag.
xxSTARBUCKSxx said:
Most likely from people doing things and using files intended for different models and wondering why crap doesnt work right amd coming back to the sprint forums with odd problems...... Scratch that itch, root and follow the steps mentioned on Numerous posts for getting rid of the lag.
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Thumbs up Starbuck!
this phone out of the box does not lag . Rooting has nothing to do with it. IT'S what you have done either before or after rooting. Check yourselves gentleman it's something you have done..
touch_rules said:
Strange, have you always had the same lag or has it gotten worse? After those few changes mine is very responsive. I'm also not using TouchWiz, I'm using Nova Launcher. Wonder if that makes a difference.
Are you rooted? I've heard some strange things about lag after rooting which does not make me happy. This is probably the longest I've gone without rooting and I'm getting the itch
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The lag is better but not as smooth as my Note 3 on cm11.
I am the first to admit personal fault, and I'd like to admit fault as to something I've done, but I have Odin flashed the stock rom and recovery back on the phone, and the issue is still apparent. Maybe the phone is not properly wiping data on a factory reset(also wiped everything in TWRP before using Odin to wipe the phone) causing a file to stick around regardless of Odin, but it is troubling and annoying to say the least.
Since I'm out of the 14 day period, here is hoping we get a developer to build a unified AOSP ROM in the near future.
I am posting here because I've been through countless forums, hearing many suggestions, but none has helped.
My issue, is lag, and performance issues on my Verizon Galaxy Note 4. At first, it was just a hiccup every now and again, which is Touchwiz, and I didn't really mind it. But now, it's to the point where I cannot experience a fully smooth experience. Every window that opens glitches out and stutters, scrolling freezes and jumps, the notification bar freezes and glitches out, keyboard typing is delayed, and Swype is slow and laggy.
So then, I read online that the Note 4 usually scores above 43,000 in AnTuTu benchmark. Mine scored 28,000. I've cleared the cache partition, I've deleted just about every singe app, I've disabled bloatware, I've done almost everything. There are a few things I DON'T want to do, which are:
- Change launchers. I don't want Nova, or anything else. I like Touchwiz, and I don't care about the occasional hiccup.
- Factory reset. I'd like this to be the last resort, since I already have many passwords, settings, pictures, and music stored on this device.
- Change window animation blahblah in developer options.
I'm starting to miss my Note 3. It ran much smoother, and faster even. What are my options from here? I'd greatly appreciate the help.
Unfortunately this seems to be a problem that plagues all Samsung android devices. That's why I quit buying Samsung products many years ago. Last week I decided to give them another go with the Note 4 and I do love the phone, but..... it's doing the same things you describe and that I have experienced before. Samsung puts too much bloat that you can't get rid of on the phone and I think that all of that on top of touch wiz just makes for a very poor user experience. I had the droid turbo previously and want to go back to it after only a week with this device.
Dang! I guess my only hope is for Lollipop to make things smoother.
My Note 4 started lagging almost immediately when it was brand new. I brought the device home, ran the initial setup (which did restore most of my google play store apps that I had used on my previous device), and the lag started almost immediately. I spent far too much time trying task killers, phone cleaners, clearing cache, etc., etc. I finally bit the bullet and did a factory reset.
Doing a factory reset really helped a lot. I did make sure to turn off auto update and auto restore in Google Play Store first. After completing the initial setup I manually installed ONLY the apps that I use regularly .
Factory resetting is a bit of a pain, but not really all that bad. I think it is probably required to solve your problem.
Debloating the uneeded preinstalled apps helps too. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2998294 for instructions on how to debloat the Note 4 without requiring root (or voiding your warranty).
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Alrighty, thanks. I'm working on backing up music and passwords now, and planning on doing a factory reset very soon. And thanks for the link to that debloater software, I'll be sure to try that.
Hardware-related?
Sorry but the Touchwiz is terrible stuff is overblown. I haven't really had any stuttering after months of owning the device. The Note 4 came with the slimmest Touchwiz to date and, as you say, the Note 3 had no problems with performance. Yes, its good to debloat, but what you are experiencing seems to be more serious. The fact that your Antutu benchmark isn't close to where it should be is a red flag. My 910V registers 46680. If a factory reset doesn't work, you may try to return it or contact Samsung to see what options you have available to you.
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I am posting here because I've been through countless forums, hearing many suggestions, but none has helped.
My issue, is lag, and performance issues on my Verizon Galaxy Note 4. At first, it was just a hiccup every now and again, which is Touchwiz, and I didn't really mind it. But now, it's to the point where I cannot experience a fully smooth experience. Every window that opens glitches out and stutters, scrolling freezes and jumps, the notification bar freezes and glitches out, keyboard typing is delayed, and Swype is slow and laggy.
So then, I read online that the Note 4 usually scores above 43,000 in AnTuTu benchmark. Mine scored 28,000. I've cleared the cache partition, I've deleted just about every singe app, I've disabled bloatware, I've done almost everything. There are a few things I DON'T want to do, which are:
- Change launchers. I don't want Nova, or anything else. I like Touchwiz, and I don't care about the occasional hiccup.
- Factory reset. I'd like this to be the last resort, since I already have many passwords, settings, pictures, and music stored on this device.
- Change window animation blahblah in developer options.
I'm starting to miss my Note 3. It ran much smoother, and faster even. What are my options from here? I'd greatly appreciate the help.
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holy**** i was just browsing around forums and i saw this
i have a note 2 on kitkat and it scores 31000 on touchwiz (Ditto note 4 rom)
amazing performace on note 2 thats why i didnt even feel the need to buy note 3 or 4
i dont think touchwiz is the problem specially for a device like note 4
You could try these things to get better performance
use custom kernel and use high freq (Nadia kernel in your case)
root you device and delete all waste apps from system/app and system/priv-app
OR
flash a deodexed rom
Worth case scenario you may have a slow internal storage causing all the lag and problems in that case backup your data and flash a stock rom and re flash a partition table for your device
this would definately solve your problem (had this problem on tab 2 10.1 and this last method worked for me)
Ashwin Prabhunerurkar said:
holy**** i was just browsing around forums and i saw this
i have a note 2 on kitkat and it scores 31000 on touchwiz (Ditto note 4 rom)
amazing performace on note 2 thats why i didnt even feel the need to buy note 3 or 4
i dont think touchwiz is the problem specially for a device like note 4
You could try these things to get better performance
use custom kernel and use high freq (Nadia kernel in your case)
root you device and delete all waste apps from system/app and system/priv-app
OR
flash a deodexed rom
Worth case scenario you may have a slow internal storage causing all the lag and problems in that case backup your data and flash a stock rom and re flash a partition table for your device
this would definately solve your problem (had this problem on tab 2 10.1 and this last method worked for me)
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Unfortunately, none of these are currently an option because the Verizon Note 4 is currently not rootable and the bootloader is also locked.
Anzion said:
Unfortunately, none of these are currently an option because the Verizon Note 4 is currently not rootable and the bootloader is also locked.
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if it is happening only to you then my guess is it is an hardware problem and get your device replaced
but better backup your device as the verizon people will want to format your device and reflash it before they declare it as a bad device and replace it
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Alrighty, thanks. I'm working on backing up music and passwords now, and planning on doing a factory reset very soon. And thanks for the link to that debloater software, I'll be sure to try that.
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Good luck, hope this works for you. Please let us know if this solves your problem, or not.
Fyi: My Note 4 gets an AnTuTu Benchmark score of 47315 (free app available from Google Play).
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Not sure if this is still an issue, but make sure none of your battery saving functions are active. Settings -> Power -> power saving mode, make sure that's off. Just a thought
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I am posting here because I've been through countless forums, hearing many suggestions, but none has helped.
My issue, is lag, and performance issues on my Verizon Galaxy Note 4. At first, it was just a hiccup every now and again, which is Touchwiz, and I didn't really mind it. But now, it's to the point where I cannot experience a fully smooth experience. Every window that opens glitches out and stutters, scrolling freezes and jumps, the notification bar freezes and glitches out, keyboard typing is delayed, and Swype is slow and laggy.
So then, I read online that the Note 4 usually scores above 43,000 in AnTuTu benchmark. Mine scored 28,000. I've cleared the cache partition, I've deleted just about every singe app, I've disabled bloatware, I've done almost everything. There are a few things I DON'T want to do, which are:
- Change launchers. I don't want Nova, or anything else. I like Touchwiz, and I don't care about the occasional hiccup.
- Factory reset. I'd like this to be the last resort, since I already have many passwords, settings, pictures, and music stored on this device.
- Change window animation blahblah in developer options.
I'm starting to miss my Note 3. It ran much smoother, and faster even. What are my options from here? I'd greatly appreciate the help.
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I just Antutu'd mine and got around 39,000 . Then I cleared cache and ram and the restarted, . After the test ran faster, can't say twice as fast just faster. The results were 40,0007. According to the comparisons mine was 5 below the listing for the Note 4. the one item that did bother me is that the S5 was listed one model ahead of mine, but 4 models away from the listed Note 4.
In your case there must be apps running that you don't know of. You have to check running apps in the app manager. Just look on the "ALL" listing and turn off any that you can turn off and don't need. Many of them show " Turn off" but it's grayed out which is total bs to me. Plus from some web searching I've read that the new S6 may be bloat free
Lastly, use Greenify- go to settings/assesibility/Greenify
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Doing a factory reset seems to have solved the problem. Also, I didn't sync all my apps over, so that may have caused the problem the first time.
I'm actually scoring good, too. Thank you guys for helping!
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Not sure if this is still an issue, but make sure none of your battery saving functions are active. Settings -> Power -> power saving mode, make sure that's off. Just a thought
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That was the culprit in my case. Huge change that took my model to the top on the list registering 49,987. I'll leave it off for a day or 2 and see what happens to the battery performance. While using the power saver the battery has been stellar. From off the charger at 7:30 am Id have 65% by 7 pm
As far as lag, to get rid of it just set Window, Transition and Animator scale to "off" under Developer options and you should be good to go. I've done that since the S3 days no problem and phone gets waay faster.
So here we go again, it's lagging terribly again. The only different thing I did, was install the negative color notification widget from the Samsung store (which I didn't even do last time), so that can't be why it's lagging. There is literally no explanation.
And yeah, I've tried turning off window animation, and etc. That only got rid of opening window lag. But I'm still lagging hard everywhere else.
I have no lag issues at all. This Note 4 is the smoothest operating Samsung phone that I have ever owned. Here's my results:
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I would send it back to Verizon. Must be a hardware problem I'm guessing. Good luck
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KamajiH said:
So here we go again, it's lagging terribly again. The only different thing I did, was install the negative color notification widget from the Samsung store (which I didn't even do last time), so that can't be why it's lagging. There is literally no explanation.
And yeah, I've tried turning off window animation, and etc. That only got rid of opening window lag. But I'm still lagging hard everywhere else.
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You could try Greenify (free version should be fine) and see which apps it suggests be hibernated. Just don't hibernate anything that generates notifications that you need. This has helped me in the past. Some apps like Facebook are notorious for causing battery drain. I uninstalled FB and use a browser link (saved to my home screen) to check my account when I want.
I have no idea what you guys did to your phone mine flirts with 50,000 on antutu every time and is like butter and runs so so cool
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I have no idea what you guys did to your phone mine flirts with 50,000 on antutu every time and is like butter and runs so so cool
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You're right on the Antutu, mine is about the same.
Maybe who ever has an issue should state on where and what part of the phone
examples-
Internet access and page return speed- connection related
Email access and refresh speed- same as above
Screen swiping speed- Touch wiz, try Nova
Stock apps performance- one's that don't need Int access and ones that do- possibly here could lie the issue
Texting - sending/ receiving ?- with Verizon this is purely connection related
Also, whoever suggested to kill the Face book app , you're 100% right. I use a link now and the whole phone works better
Last- I use the Samsung app- Vitamins. For me, I use is the system cleanup. This goes along with the left menu button clean up and Greenify