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So a while back I was using the HTC One S. I got it for the camera. I prefer samsung, for the most part, and have gone from a vibrant to galaxy s 4g to galaxy s 2. The only reason I did not go to the galaxy s 3 originally was because I needed a better camera. I wound up having to sell my HTC One s for some cash, and now I have the change to get a phone again, I am stuck, once again, between the one s and the s3. Personally, I would like to wait for the note 2, but I don't have the time. I am stuck with a basic flip phone right now, and while i don't mind using a flip phone, I have to have something for tethering with my tablet while I am work. So that is the rock and a hard place. Any phone I buy is going to be a few hundred bucks anyways, so I would rather go another hundred or two more and get the one s or s3.
Personally, the One S was great with the Axiom ROM. The battery lasted forever, and it had great extra features.
However, the s3 is still my preferred choice because of the bigger screen, the 720p, svoice, voice actions, and many other things. Not to mention the extra compatibility with my note 10.1 tablet.
My only real issue here, admidst all my rambling, is the camera. I know the HTC One S has an f/2.0 aperture, and the s3 has a f/2..6 aperture which makes a difference (although some people report the aperture as f/2.4)...my concern is how people actually like the photos and video. Ive noticed some washed out looks compared to the one s. I know the f/2.6 will give better depth vs the f/2.0, but thats about the end of the benefits.
My main concern is quality of photos/videos, and quickness of the picture. I have two young boys and I want to be able to snap a photo that is clear and of good quality, at a moments notice without having to worry about missing it or getting a blurry shot.
Any comments or thoughts on this would be helpful.
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If the cam is your main concern, I think you will be happy either way. There may be a difference side by side but if you're not ccomparing the two like that you probably wouldn't care either way.
While some may have had issues with the camera I would say the vast majority have not.
There are a number of things that could cause pic problems here. Lots of people are running jb leaked firmware. Lots are using the cam from the note2. I seem to remember a few had problems fixed by updating the cam firmware...
But like I said, I doubt you'd be dissatisfied with the gs3. I dont know how theyd compare side by side but unless you're doing just that I dont think you'd notice or care.
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Ive seen plenty of camera shot examples, but pretty much all (most, but not all) are from still photos are "posed" shots. It takes good pictures, and I think my only issue is its a little washed out vs the One S. However, I can deal with that. My biggest question is lag from button press to picture taken.
So, how much lag is there in taking a picture? If I wanted to take a picture right when somewhat hit the water diving off a diving board, or of my cat jumping from fence pole to fence pole and wanted a shot right in the middle between two poles, etc....how easy would it be? With the One S I could get pretty much zero lag. if I hit the capture button its taken the picture right then, and I can click the capture button over and over and over in rapid succession (not burst mode) and take multiple pictures. I really want the GS3 over the One S for other reasons, but need the camera to be on the same level.
So how quick does it take a picture when the button is pressed?...and how quickly does it recover to take another picture?
I find it to be quite quick on all accounts. Hasn't caused me any issues as of yet. Also, there is a feature where you can just record video and then capture the pics you want from the video.
Have you seen the commercial with the hikers and the goat?
The only complaint I have about the camera is the lack of hardware buttons for it. But I can deal with that.
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DocHoliday77 said:
I find it to be quite quick on all accounts. Hasn't caused me any issues as of yet. Also, there is a feature where you can just record video and then capture the pics you want from the video.
Have you seen the commercial with the hikers and the goat?
The only complaint I have about the camera is the lack of hardware buttons for it. But I can deal with that.
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Thanks for the feedback.
Its rather important to be quick on the camera trigger. Even with the zero lag of the One S I did miss some things. I have my two boys and they can be making a face or doing a little dance to their favorite tv show and I want to capture it, but the moment may just last a few seconds, and I need a quick trigger finger. So I dont want to have to focus and then 'click'. I want to hit and click at the same time.
Right now, however, I am stuck my an LG Mytouch Q and definitely not the best in the camera department. lol
Yeah I hear you on wanting to be able to get that quick shot. Its the msin reason I miss the csm button. But theres also a motion setting where you tap and hold on lock screen whil rotating to landscape takes you straight to the camera. I just added to my lockscreen shortcuts. Auto focus is pretty good too btw.
Dont forget you can always get the S3 and try it for 14 days. If it doesn't meet your needs return it and get the One S.
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Yeah I hear you on wanting to be able to get that quick shot. Its the msin reason I miss the csm button. But theres also a motion setting where you tap and hold on lock screen whil rotating to landscape takes you straight to the camera. I just added to my lockscreen shortcuts. Auto focus is pretty good too btw.
Dont forget you can always get the S3 and try it for 14 days. If it doesn't meet your needs return it and get the One S.
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Thats where my problem lies. I work for T-Mobile. Mind you everything I do here is personal and not affiliated with my tmobile employment, but I work for them, and I know just about everything there is to know about the phones, but because I have not had a chance to really test shutter lag on the phone, I dont know if it meets my needs. I am VERY picky. I don't work in a retail store or anything so I dont deal with the phones in my hand daily.
...and because I work for the company, I do not get a buyers remorse period on my purchases. Once I order it, give or take a couple of exceptions to the rule, its mine. So while I can tell you about every wifi share options, every motion and voice control, and so on, I dont know for sure if the camera lag will be a problem in practical use because I do not have the phone physically with me. ..and when I did have the phone physically with me...I never tested it cause I either had my one s or was not in the mindset of having to buy a phone lol. I will probably get a chance to check out a demo model tomorrow when I head in to work, but I was trying to get it ordered over the weekend, so it would start processing my order. Our order system is different and the sooner the better.
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phoenixbennu said:
So a while back I was using the HTC One S. I got it for the camera. I prefer samsung, for the most part, and have gone from a vibrant to galaxy s 4g to galaxy s 2. The only reason I did not go to the galaxy s 3 originally was because I needed a better camera. I wound up having to sell my HTC One s for some cash, and now I have the change to get a phone again, I am stuck, once again, between the one s and the s3. Personally, I would like to wait for the note 2, but I don't have the time. I am stuck with a basic flip phone right now, and while i don't mind using a flip phone, I have to have something for tethering with my tablet while I am work. So that is the rock and a hard place. Any phone I buy is going to be a few hundred bucks anyways, so I would rather go another hundred or two more and get the one s or s3.
Personally, the One S was great with the Axiom ROM. The battery lasted forever, and it had great extra features.
However, the s3 is still my preferred choice because of the bigger screen, the 720p, svoice, voice actions, and many other things. Not to mention the extra compatibility with my note 10.1 tablet.
My only real issue here, admidst all my rambling, is the camera. I know the HTC One S has an f/2.0 aperture, and the s3 has a f/2..6 aperture which makes a difference (although some people report the aperture as f/2.4)...my concern is how people actually like the photos and video. Ive noticed some washed out looks compared to the one s. I know the f/2.6 will give better depth vs the f/2.0, but thats about the end of the benefits.
My main concern is quality of photos/videos, and quickness of the picture. I have two young boys and I want to be able to snap a photo that is clear and of good quality, at a moments notice without having to worry about missing it or getting a blurry shot.
Any comments or thoughts on this would be helpful.
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IMHO the Galaxy S3 takes the best pics I have ever taken with a phone. See for yourself. I am attaching two pics of a sunset/day-time at Vanderbilt Beach, Florida. Rarely have I been disappointed with the quality of the pics. At least for me, they almost always turn out perfect. I highly recommend the Galaxy S3. Even in low-light situations, you still get a great pic.
Well 1) it's a camera phone and 2) ymmv. There isn't more "lag" than a cheap point and shoot but this isn't a dslr, it's a phone. It's going to come down to to you and each unique situation.
Hey,
Im interested in purchasing a HTC One X and would like to know if there are any issues or problems with the phone, what and why should I choose this phone over competing phones?
Thanks in advance
Hyflex
Hyflex said:
Hey,
Im interested in purchasing a HTC One X and would like to know if there are any issues or problems with the phone, what and why should I choose this phone over competing phones?
Thanks in advance
Hyflex
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use search and you will find everything you need...
Hyflex said:
Hey,
Im interested in purchasing a HTC One X and would like to know if there are any issues or problems with the phone, what and why should I choose this phone over competing phones?
Thanks in advance
Hyflex
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Personally I think the One x is the best phone around at the moment and have been more than happy with my choice of mobile, for some mixed reviews have a read through this thread and post back your thoughts
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821976
matt95 said:
use search and you will find everything you need...
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I do use and did use search but was unable to find anything what sufficed my needs.
McBeaker said:
Personally I think the One x is the best phone around at the moment and have been more than happy with my choice of mobile, for some mixed reviews have a read through this thread and post back your thoughts
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That was quite a read and looks promising, I do see some posts what are a bit of a second thought but I'm not sure if they're iphone fanboys.
- GPS?
- Wi-Fi?
- Screen Flickering? (Seen this one quite a few times on the internet)
- Overheating (Seen this one a lot too)
Hyflex said:
I do use and did use search but was unable to find anything what sufficed my needs.
That was quite a read and looks promising, I do see some posts what are a bit of a second thought but I'm not sure if they're iphone fanboys.
- GPS?
- Wi-Fi?
- Screen Flickering? (Seen this one quite a few times on the internet)
- Overheating (Seen this one a lot too)
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every phone is different, someone is facing dead digitizer, someone wifi iussue (i also faced this too), i do not have overheating and sceend flickering should be gone in the newer one x thanks to ota updates
Hyflex said:
Hey,
Im interested in purchasing a HTC One X and would like to know if there are any issues or problems with the phone, what and why should I choose this phone over competing phones?
Thanks in advance
Hyflex
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Hi. I have had iphone 3gs, iphone 4, iphone 4s, galaxy s2 and now HOX and it is the best I of all those (it was kind of lousy at software at the start , laggy and awful battery) but the recent upgrades have made it super smooth and very decent battery wise. Hands down has the best screen ever, easily beating the Galaxy S3 and beating the iphone 4s by a hair (better whites IMHO). The phone is super smooth, screen is AMAZING, gps works great, is stylish.
However, make sure you can easily return your phone in case some of these show up :
- Weak wifi signal, know production issue on early batches, it is a design flaw.
- Yellow spots on screen
- Flickering on screen
I think those are the most common issues you might face. If you think a return/exchange will be difficult, I would advise you buy the SHS3 or iphone 5.
What potential issues (that has not been mentioned already on the board) would you like to have mentioned to suffice your need?
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I do use and did use search but was unable to find anything what sufficed my needs.
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matt95 said:
every phone is different, someone is facing dead digitizer, someone wifi iussue (i also faced this too), i do not have overheating and sceend flickering should be gone in the newer one x thanks to ota updates
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True but with some devices there are issues what plague the entire model and I'd rather avoid phones which are bug happy.
Garoto1973 said:
Hi. I have had iphone 3gs, iphone 4, iphone 4s, galaxy s2 and now HOX and it is the best I of all those (it was kind of lousy at software at the start , laggy and awful battery) but the recent upgrades have made it super smooth and very decent battery wise. Hands down has the best screen ever, easily beating the Galaxy S3 and beating the iphone 4s by a hair (better whites IMHO). The phone is super smooth, screen is AMAZING, gps works great, is stylish.
However, make sure you can easily return your phone in case some of these show up :
- Weak wifi signal, know production issue on early batches, it is a design flaw.
- Yellow spots on screen
- Flickering on screen
I think those are the most common issues you might face. If you think a return/exchange will be difficult, I would advise you buy the SHS3 or iphone 5.
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Thank you very much for your lovely reply, the yellow spots and flickering wouldn't bother me that much but a weak-wifi would be a problem as I'd be using wi-fi a hell of a lot, however you mention it was in early batches so I would assume it wouldn't be the case in a newly purchased one but yeah warranty returns/exchanges would be fine so I could get them resolved fairly easy.
You might of just convinced me to buy a HTC One X
Hyflex said:
True but with some devices there are issues what plague the entire model and I'd rather avoid phones which are bug happy.
Thank you very much for your lovely reply, the yellow spots and flickering wouldn't bother me that much but a weak-wifi would be a problem as I'd be using wi-fi a hell of a lot, however you mention it was in early batches so I would assume it wouldn't be the case in a newly purchased one but yeah warranty returns/exchanges would be fine so I could get them resolved fairly easy.
You might of just convinced me to buy a HTC One X
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Wifi is normal, it weakens when you block the edge on top of the phone with your hand. Normally it is good
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That's why I'm asking this question.
You will get the same answers as are already mentioned so many times.
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True but with some devices there are issues what plague the entire model and I'd rather avoid phones which are bug happy.
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What potential issues (that has not been mentioned already on the board) would you like to have mentioned to suffice your need?
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I think all issues software wise have been fixed with the 2.17 update, the only thing that's left ,I mean if you develop the fault, is Wi-Fi signal for me it got weaker couple of metres from modem and the gap that the screen has where dust is gathering,I send it to repair , should get to repair center today, believe me or not I had 4 hoxes , all were faulty which pissed me off big time , so switched to gs3 but missed the hox after 1 month ,so I bought another one and guess what ? It has the issues mentioned above ,I like to think that I'm unlucky but I think the problems with hox are widespread and HTC should have done the descent thing and issue a recall
AboulSAM said:
Wifi is normal, it weakens when you block the edge on top of the phone with your hand. Normally it is good
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I see, I just didn't want a device with massive drop offs in wi-fi strength.
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That's why I'm asking this question.
You will get the same answers as are already mentioned so many times.
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True, but it looks like I'm sold on the One X already.
atrako1973 said:
I think all issues software wise have been fixed with the 2.17 update, the only thing that's left ,I mean if you develop the fault, is Wi-Fi signal for me it got weaker couple of metres from modem and the gap that the screen has where dust is gathering,I send it to repair , should get to repair center today, believe me or not I had 4 hoxes , all were faulty which pissed me off big time , so switched to gs3 but missed the hox after 1 month ,so I bought another one and guess what ? It has the issues mentioned above ,I like to think that I'm unlucky but I think the problems with hox are widespread and HTC should have done the descent thing and issue a recall
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The dust issue wouldn't be a problem at all for me, if it got severe enough I'd open it up myself and clean it out. I have a few spare Void stickers laying around but yeah a lot of fixes seemed to come with the 2.17 update by a lot of peoples feedback.
My next thing to find and decide is what tablet should I get? I might try my luck with a Windows 8 RT Tablet because the ASUS Transformer TF700 (Infinity) seems to have it's only array of issues which are really really putting me off, I already had a TF201 what was fault crazy.
I personally wished that i had bought an S3/Note2/nexus-phone now, latest JB Sense roms are only available for certain devices with specific CIDs, others with CIDS not on the list will have to wait for the official update.
Screen:
Brilliant, bright, clear & solid
me:
I run at the lowest setting to save battery -_-
I have a screen protector on mines after scratches showed up, so it doesn't feel as silky smooth.
Battery:
Poor.. with careful management you can get good results but that kind of defeats the purpose of having a top end device right?
me:
I carry an external usb charger now, only viable solution for days when you need to have your phone run all day and more.
Storage:
I can live with the ~28GB usable space but who doesn't want more? microsd would be awesome.
If my phone dies (my previous desire just started having the 7 vibrate problem/dead mobo problem) there's absolutely no easy way to recover the data.
Sending it off to HTC will only result in the device getting repaired/wiped + charge for having it rooted right?
me:
dropbox sync/regular backups
..what are the benefits of rooting again?
Hyflex said:
I see, I just didn't want a device with massive drop offs in wi-fi strength.
True, but it looks like I'm sold on the One X already.
The dust issue wouldn't be a problem at all for me, if it got severe enough I'd open it up myself and clean it out. I have a few spare Void stickers laying around but yeah a lot of fixes seemed to come with the 2.17 update by a lot of peoples feedback.
My next thing to find and decide is what tablet should I get? I might try my luck with a Windows 8 RT Tablet because the ASUS Transformer TF700 (Infinity) seems to have it's only array of issues which are really really putting me off, I already had a TF201 what was fault crazy.
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I dont have wifi problems since my router is on ground level and i live on seccond flor i still have 2 solid bars without speed drops, dont have dust issues too. But if you happen to have something like that trust me you wont be opening it since ih has unibody without screews. You must unglue it wich is not easy task. All that is covered in waranty if it does happen. And jellybean comes soon to and trust me it runns lot better than on s3 . since i have acces to both phones. And for tablets i must say , dont go for windows. Android is much better and i think apps are better.
Hyflex said:
True but with some devices there are issues what plague the entire model and I'd rather avoid phones which are bug happy.
Thank you very much for your lovely reply, the yellow spots and flickering wouldn't bother me that much but a weak-wifi would be a problem as I'd be using wi-fi a hell of a lot, however you mention it was in early batches so I would assume it wouldn't be the case in a newly purchased one but yeah warranty returns/exchanges would be fine so I could get them resolved fairly easy.
You might of just convinced me to buy a HTC One X
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No problem, good luck with it! It is an amazing phone, after 6 months of having it I would say it is the best one I have ever had. It takes amazing photos too.
I have discovered one thing with Android phones, you need to work a little to get the most of them, customize them the way you like, do a little research to optimize its speed and battery, nothing out of this world but thats why I always end up recommending the iphone to my non-techie friends and family. I remember how much I hated my SGS2 at first and how I could not let go of it before I sold it!
One last piece of advise with the HOX though, do get a case for it that protect the screen edges, I dropped mine and because the glass goes to the edges it broke easily and getting a replacement screen is very time consuming!
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atrako1973 said:
I think all issues software wise have been fixed with the 2.17 update, the only thing that's left ,I mean if you develop the fault, is Wi-Fi signal for me it got weaker couple of metres from modem and the gap that the screen has where dust is gathering,I send it to repair , should get to repair center today, believe me or not I had 4 hoxes , all were faulty which pissed me off big time , so switched to gs3 but missed the hox after 1 month ,so I bought another one and guess what ? It has the issues mentioned above ,I like to think that I'm unlucky but I think the problems with hox are widespread and HTC should have done the descent thing and issue a recall
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It is a stupid design flaw, I opened mine and repaired it in 10 min (the wifi antenna needs to be lifted up a little). However, I dont recommend doing that . I did it only as a last recourse as I am out of warranty and there is no HTC service center in my country.
Apparently this has been fixed on recent batches. However looks like the old damaged batches are still plentiful and are still being sold.
kennylovesyou said:
I personally wished that i had bought an S3/Note2/nexus-phone now, latest JB Sense roms are only available for certain devices with specific CIDs, others with CIDS not on the list will have to wait for the official update.
Screen:
Brilliant, bright, clear & solid
me:
I run at the lowest setting to save battery -_-
I have a screen protector on mines after scratches showed up, so it doesn't feel as silky smooth.
Battery:
Poor.. with careful management you can get good results but that kind of defeats the purpose of having a top end device right?
me:
I carry an external usb charger now, only viable solution for days when you need to have your phone run all day and more.
Storage:
I can live with the ~28GB usable space but who doesn't want more? microsd would be awesome.
If my phone dies (my previous desire just started having the 7 vibrate problem/dead mobo problem) there's absolutely no easy way to recover the data.
Sending it off to HTC will only result in the device getting repaired/wiped + charge for having it rooted right?
me:
dropbox sync/regular backups
..what are the benefits of rooting again?
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All those points are valid kenny.
I don't have a problem with storage as I only need it for photos and a little for music, heck I'd be fine with 8GB, this is huge for me.
Keeping the screen at low brightness (even at 0%) isn't a huge deal to me because the One X's screen seems to be quite a bit brighter than say the one on iPhone 4S (I remember seeing that in a tech article/YouTube video). Which means it'll still look beautiful regardless of how low you set the brightness (and upping it a bit when exposed to direct sunlight won't be a huge deal for the battery).
As for the battery - seeing as how this charming device wants you to keep using it - it leaves a lot to be desired:
The bad:
-it's non-removable; this fact alone scares me to this day...after a year or two it might become unusable and I'm not sure I'll be able to replace it anywhere in my country
-you won't get more than 4hrs screen-on time if you keep switching the apps and menus, browse the internet or play games
-when you know that the battery will seldom last over a day if you use the phone, you'll never feel a lot like gaming, which just halves the battery life
The good:
-reading on the One X, which is simply a lovely experience at 312 dpi, is quite possible for 6 hours while making a few calls and sending a few texts, and having your battery last through the day
-the stand-by time is impressive
-phone calls and music don't seem to use up a lot of juice on this phone at all
One more thing to note is that although this phone is a beauty without a match, it is slippery as hell and without a case, you're bound to drop it sooner or later, and then it will most likely shatter. Personally, I take the case off when I'm home and hold it carefully, and put it back on when I go outside.
The first time I had the LG G3 I went to return it for an exchange at the last day (my 14th) day. As a result I got into an argument with the sales representative about the display. I told her that the digitizer is visible on mine and it bugs the crap out of me, and so I wanted to excersize my right for an exchange for another G3. Then she started spewing nonsense and saying things like "Well you can't really see it, so it's not a big deal", etc. Well it is a pretty big deal if you buy a $600 product.
We ended up exchanging the phone 2 times straight that day. The second G3 I got had an extremely visible digitizer and the screen had a bad yellow tint. The third G3 was the last they will give me and they made it very clear to me that no matter what it is they won't exchange it. Guess what? It still has a more visible digitizer than my original one and the color temperature was still allot warmer. My whites look...yellowish.
I'm sorry for the rant, but why would those employees give me such a hard time trying to exchange a product? Its rediculus. Now I'm stuck with one worse than the original when it comes to the screen...
Funny never ever ever had a problem returning a phone with in the 14 days
also they will do that if you returned it a time or 2 already it cost the store money each time you do and exchange
also if your a PITA customer lol they will give you a hard time just for the fun of it
It cost the store money end of the day its business
Yeah and I believe their personal statistics (or the store's) are marred due to returns and exchanges.
helikido said:
The first time I had the LG G3 I went to return it for an exchange at the last day (my 14th) day. As a result I got into an argument with the sales representative about the display. I told her that the digitizer is visible on mine and it bugs the crap out of me, and so I wanted to excersize my right for an exchange for another G3. Then she started spewing nonsense and saying things like "Well you can't really see it, so it's not a big deal", etc. Well it is a pretty big deal if you buy a $600 product.
We ended up exchanging the phone 2 times straight that day. The second G3 I got had an extremely visible digitizer and the screen had a bad yellow tint. The third G3 was the last they will give me and they made it very clear to me that no matter what it is they won't exchange it. Guess what? It still has a more visible digitizer than my original one and the color temperature was still allot warmer. My whites look...yellowish.
I'm sorry for the rant, but why would those employees give me such a hard time trying to exchange a product? Its rediculus. Now I'm stuck with one worse than the original when it comes to the screen...
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I've seen you post about this type of thing in a couple of different places. I think you're being too picky. I think it's very unlikely 3 G3s in a row had problems.
bigkevbosky said:
I've seen you post about this type of thing in a couple of different places. I think you're being too picky. I think it's very unlikely 3 G3s in a row had problems.
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The first one had a minimal visible digitizer with a nice toned display. But it had backlight bleeds on the edge. The second one was just completely washed out with an extremely visible digitizer that it was just exchanged on the spot. The third one I had no choice but to keep, but the digitizer was not as visible and the display still had a yellow tint compared to the original.
If you ask me for $600 I have all the right to exchange the phones all the way until I final have a good one without any physical flaws.
Didn't you return your G3 for dust too? How many have you tried? Gosh you really are trying to break the record of some guy on G+ returning like 10 different G3's at T-Mobile and AT&T. Then he gets mad at T-Mobile for them having to mail him a check even though he paid cash. I think he did that twice. lmao Don't tell that's you? lol
This is more lg's problem. Perhaps you should take it up with them instead of the middle man I bet you would actually get somewhere.
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Didn't you return your G3 for dust too? How many have you tried? Gosh you really are trying to break the record of some guy on G+ returning like 10 different G3's at T-Mobile and AT&T. Then he gets mad at T-Mobile for them having to mail him a check even though he paid cash. I think he did that twice. lmao Don't tell that's you? lol
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That was the first one. The second one was exchanged again on the spot for an obvious faulty display.
ThePagel said:
This is more lg's problem. Perhaps you should take it up with them instead of the middle man I bet you would actually get somewhere.
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What are my chances of actually getting a good phone with LG vs T-mobile?
I hate the fact that all the gray colors on my G3 have a yellow tint to them now. Man this kinda blows. Even with I use trickster mod.
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That was the first one. The second one was exchanged again on the spot for an obvious faulty display.
What are my chances of actually getting a good phone with LG vs T-mobile?
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If you tell them what happend at the tmobile store, complain politely and ask them to make sure its good before they send it I bet its a for sure thing
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The first time I had the LG G3 I went to return it for an exchange at the last day (my 14th) day. As a result I got into an argument with the sales representative about the display. I told her that the digitizer is visible on mine and it bugs the crap out of me, and so I wanted to excersize my right for an exchange for another G3. Then she started spewing nonsense and saying things like "Well you can't really see it, so it's not a big deal", etc. Well it is a pretty big deal if you buy a $600 product.
We ended up exchanging the phone 2 times straight that day. The second G3 I got had an extremely visible digitizer and the screen had a bad yellow tint. The third G3 was the last they will give me and they made it very clear to me that no matter what it is they won't exchange it. Guess what? It still has a more visible digitizer than my original one and the color temperature was still allot warmer. My whites look...yellowish.
I'm sorry for the rant, but why would those employees give me such a hard time trying to exchange a product? Its rediculus. Now I'm stuck with one worse than the original when it comes to the screen...
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I can consider myself very lucky for owning a flawless unit then.
I know if you came in to my store and tried that you would have gotten turned way and told to take it up with LG since we would have allowed you 1 exchange NOT 2 or 3
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If you tell them what happend at the tmobile store, complain politely and ask them to make sure its good before they send it I bet its a for sure thing
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Think you have to send your phone to LG so you would need another phone. I don't think it's a quick process and I doubt they look over the phone with a magnifying glass to see the slightest thing wrong if it's even wrong. I guess worth a shot. If it was me I would've just returned it and got a different phone or wait a month and try again.
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Think you have to send your phone to LG so you would need another phone. I don't think it's a quick process and I doubt they look over the phone with a magnifying glass to see the slightest thing wrong. I guess worth a shot. If it was me I would've just returned it and got a different phone or wait a month and try again.
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Yeah it will take a week at the minimum to get the new phone more likely 2 - 3. I would have done the same thing as you and got the m8 or s5. Luckily I got a great phone and didn't need to.
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Didn't you return your G3 for dust too? How many have you tried? Gosh you really are trying to break the record of some guy on G+ returning like 10 different G3's at T-Mobile and AT&T. Then he gets mad at T-Mobile for them having to mail him a check even though he paid cash. I think he did that twice. lmao Don't tell that's you? lol
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Do you have the G+ link for that?
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This thread reminds me about being on MacRumors and people talking about how they had returned like seven iPads until they got one that didn't have one of the several ridiculously impossible to notice defects.
This is why I'm glad I don't work retail any more. It made me wish there was a policy to be allowed to slap customers for being absurd.
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I know if you came in to my store and tried that you would have gotten turned way and told to take it up with LG since we would have allowed you 1 exchange NOT 2 or 3
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I know if you tried to do that with me I would be sure to put you in a very very tough position when it comes to your job. If you sell me something, it better be as damn good as it was advertised. If you exchange a faulty product, it better be better and not WORSE than the one I just had.
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Yes but the problem is that with LG I have to send in the phone. That's something I cannot afford to do since I have no spare phones. Can they not just send me a unit and then I ship mine back?
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This thread reminds me about being on MacRumors and people talking about how they had returned like seven iPads until they got one that didn't have one of the several ridiculously impossible to notice defects.
This is why I'm glad I don't work retail any more. It made me wish there was a policy to be allowed to slap customers for being absurd.
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If you can not see the flaw, you must be blind. Sorry. But the display models and the first G3 I had where all cooler than the one I currently have...by a good margin. So no, its a very VISIBLE flaw. Well I wouldn't call it a flaw, but out of the ordinary characteristic.
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I know if you tried to do that with me I would be sure to put you in a very very tough position when it comes to your job. If you sell me something, it better be as damn good as it was advertised. If you exchange a faulty product, it better be better and not WORSE than the one I just had.
Yes but the problem is that with LG I have to send in the phone. That's something I cannot afford to do since I have no spare phones. Can they not just send me a unit and then I ship mine back?
If you can not see the flaw, you must be blind. Sorry. But the display models and the first G3 I had where all cooler than the one I currently have...by a good margin. So no, its a very VISIBLE flaw. Well I wouldn't call it a flaw, but out of the ordinary characteristic.
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Indecision on the definition of flaw? I think you need a new hobby...this phone thing doesn't seem to be working out for you.
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Indecision on the definition of flaw? I think you need a new hobby...this phone thing doesn't seem to be working out for you.
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Got plenty of hobbies, and this phone thing worked out with me for 5 years just fine.
Usually, I don't really like topics like this.... But now I need your opinions, guys!
Accidentally smashed my op3 and now I need a new toy.
Already watched a massive amount of videos on YouTube about the razer phone. Love the style, the shape.
However, I'm still can't decide.
Razer or OP5T?
I'm waiting for your thoughts, opinions, etc.
Thanks in advance.
i had the razer phone i sent it back less than a week, dont get me wrong love the retro metallic build and speakers. but the software seems unfinished and non optimised. the screen as fluid as it is @ 120hz just cannot compare to the OP5T in vibrancy and the screen on the RP is just shockingly too dim (even the Nokia phones have brighter LCD Screens). the op5t just feels more polished and its software more snappy. I really REALLY REALLYYYYYYY wanted to like the Razer Phone, but OP5T just seems to me a much better overall package having used both. This is totes subjective of course ...
Gave away my s8 plus and got the Razer. Love it exept for the camera. Se what they will to when oreo hits. But If I where you i would go with 5T.
QV1sten there was another Camera update this morning
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QV1sten there was another Camera update this morning
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Yepp and still isn't any good in my opinion, sadly.
I've got both infront of me currently, struggling to decide.
Unfortunately the 5T is giving me a bit of trouble recently.
The others are right, the RP screen is absolutely darker than others, roughly 60% of the 5T brightness and colours can seem a little washed out due to AMOLED vs LCD.
Battery life isn't anything to shout about either really and don't get me started on the camera! jeez.
Lastly, and this might come as a shock, the 5T puts out more decibels than the razer phone, the last update really undermined the volume and now my 5T has about 15% more volume, not clearer of course, but yeh.
All that being said, the Razer phone is built well, and the 120hz screen is nice! I'm trying to justify the brightness by the fact that Razer are wanting to reduce burn in and prolong the life expectancy of the phone, I guess it's not too bad really.
I'm gonna keep using the razer and sell the one I like the least after a week. Don't get me started on the camera or should I say "potato".
The one thing I don't like about the display is that it is "sunken". Nowadays most displays the glass and the picture are together, like you're literally touching the pictures. But on the Razer, you can tell that the picture is below the glass, which is weird as I haven't seen that in phones in the past 3 to 4 years at least. Not sure if I explained that correctly, but that's a con to me. I think mkhbd mentioned this in the preview video
I'm thinking about buy the phone to replace my LG V10 battery life pretty much bad on it and LG pressing trying me to buy a battery for it but they not selling it them from the website
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All that being said, the Razer phone is built well, and the 120hz screen is nice! I'm trying to justify the brightness by the fact that Razer are wanting to reduce burn in and prolong the life expectancy of the phone, I guess it's not too bad really.
I'm gonna keep using the razer and sell the one I like the least after a week. Don't get me started on the camera or should I say "potato".
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LCD screens don't burn in. That's pretty much an AMOLED trait. The low brightness is a consequence of the 120hz technology.
after all the issues i've had with the Razer from the moment it went live to buy and now loosing a SE for a standard edition (currently using a wileyfox while the RMA process is happening) I considering selling mine on to get a different phone too.
The OP5T was on my radar as a replacement but if i'm honest I don't trust the company anymore, after the OP5 (which I had before the Razer) and it's hardware issues and OP halting the manufacturing of it so quickly so no one could buy anymore screamed of a new one with the hardware issues fixed and on top of that then there's the personal info they were taking it was the final straw and I sold the OP, of course I cuold have flashed a custom ROM onto it but i'm kinda done with that whole thing these days myself.
if you're set on the two devices it's a hard call. if you don't mind the OP personal info thing and never got burnt from them before (grant that little bit there is completely personal to me) then go for the OP5T, it'll have fantastic custom ROM support too if that's something you want.
my personal other option was the Essential Phone which tbh I think i'll get instead.
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after all the issues i've had with the Razer from the moment it went live to buy and now loosing a SE for a standard edition (currently using a wileyfox while the RMA process is happening) I considering selling mine on to get a different phone too.
The OP5T was on my radar as a replacement but if i'm honest I don't trust the company anymore, after the OP5 (which I had before the Razer) and it's hardware issues and OP halting the manufacturing of it so quickly so no one could buy anymore screamed of a new one with the hardware issues fixed and on top of that then there's the personal info they were taking it was the final straw and I sold the OP, of course I cuold have flashed a custom ROM onto it but i'm kinda done with that whole thing these days myself.
if you're set on the two devices it's a hard call. if you don't mind the OP personal info thing and never got burnt from them before (grant that little bit there is completely personal to me) then go for the OP5T, it'll have fantastic custom ROM support too if that's something you want.
my personal other option was the Essential Phone which tbh I think i'll get instead.
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Thanks for sharing your opinion. I was thinking about the Essential phone, too.... But impossible to buy it in the EU(legally)
It is now 99%, that I go for the op5t.
hunhool said:
Thanks for sharing your opinion. I was thinking about the Essential phone, too.... But impossible to buy it in the EU(legally)
It is now 99%, that I go for the op5t.
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you can get amazon US to ship you one which is what my plans are when I get the Razer phone back and sell it on, but yeah overall as of right now the OP5T has the better experience (other than sound quality of course)
Roxas598 said:
you can get amazon US to ship you one which is what my plans are when I get the Razer phone back and sell it on, but yeah overall as of right now the OP5T has the better experience (other than sound quality of course)
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Wow, just checked it and realised, I could order it from the US.
To be honest the phone looks amazing, however there is no community (especially here at xda) at all.
hunhool said:
Wow, just checked it and realised, I could order it from the US.
To be honest the phone looks amazing, however there is no community (especially here at xda) at all.
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You're right the development portion of the device is lacking on here but the company do bi weekly ask me anything on the subreddit so they're very vocal. If I'm honest the lack of support imo is because of the A/B partition (something the razer has) and the lack of sales due to it costing so much on release. Now it's went down and essential are implementing project treble it might get better via custom ROMs
But again that's not very important to me anymore.
greyhulk said:
LCD screens don't burn in. That's pretty much an AMOLED trait. The low brightness is a consequence of the 120hz technology.
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Actually, LCD can burn in. It's just far more rare.
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Actually, LCD can burn in. It's just far more rare.
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Actually, I never claimed it COULDN'T. I said it's more of an AMOLED issue. I have yet to see an LCD burn in.
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Actually, I never claimed it COULDN'T. I said it's more of an AMOLED issue. I have yet to see an LCD burn in.
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Sorry, I misunderstood what you said. I figured "don't" meant they never do.
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Sorry, I misunderstood what you said. I figured "don't" meant they never do.
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I could have stated it better. Sorry if I came off as snarky.
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greyhulk said:
I could have stated it better. Sorry if I came off as snarky.
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No problem. I think we can all agree that the Razer's screen is inferior to the 5T's screen in every way except the refresh rate.
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No problem. I think we can all agree that the Razer's screen is inferior to the 5T's screen in every way except the refresh rate.
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I couldn't agree more. Yet every time I go into a store and play with one of the new iPads, I nearly pull the trigger for that 120hz display. I think if it was at least brighter, there would be no hesitation.
No way I can view 400 nits outside in a Texas summer, though.
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Anyone have a timeline on when Samsung is going to fix their crap auto focus on the s20 Ultra? I have a 512gb which is out of stock everywhere but I don't want to be stuck with this garbage auto focus as I bought the phone for the camera and it's really bad like fix it or recall it bad. My guess is they will release something after the 15 days and it won't fix it and I will be stuck with garbage but whatever hopefully I get a high value on their fixed phone for trade in.
I too would like to know. However I am keeping mine as I have already traded in my iPhone 11 pro. I am just kinda stuck right now, and am just as frustrated that NO info is available for the snapdragon version. I am also unsure if my unlocked version will get it direct or if I will need to wait for it.
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Anyone have a timeline on when Samsung is going to fix their crap auto focus on the s20 Ultra? I have a 512gb which is out of stock everywhere but I don't want to be stuck with this garbage auto focus as I bought the phone for the camera and it's really bad like fix it or recall it bad. My guess is they will release something after the 15 days and it won't fix it and I will be stuck with garbage but whatever hopefully I get a high value on their fixed phone for trade in.
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Nobody has a crystal ball and return it if your unhappy.
We're just gonna have to wait it out. Samsung is SLOW with their updates.
April update.
I've found a sort of fix . (For me anyway) I noticed when I was doing the hand swipe focus test (moving hand in front of sensor... Then moving when focuses and repeating).. and I noticed it was struggling until the little grey circle turned yellow from the "Shot Suggestion" feature... It looks like the phone is prioritizing getting a "good shot" to focusing... When I turned it off my focus sped up and seems to work instantly 99.5% of the time... Let me know if this works for any of you... Also I didn't read through the post so I don't know if this was posted or not.
BetaMan10 said:
Anyone have a timeline on when Samsung is going to fix their crap auto focus on the s20 Ultra? I have a 512gb which is out of stock everywhere but I don't want to be stuck with this garbage auto focus as I bought the phone for the camera and it's really bad like fix it or recall it bad. My guess is they will release something after the 15 days and it won't fix it and I will be stuck with garbage but whatever hopefully I get a high value on their fixed phone for trade in.
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It can be made better to where it works really well in daytime brightness. But will never be very good in low light. Most likely Manual Focus will be needed for very low light situations. That is because the S20 and s20+ use Dual Pixel Auto Focus (DPAF) and the Ultra uses a Phase Detection Auto Focus (PDAF) which is good for fast auto focusing in bright situations like daytime but terrible in low light.
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I've found a sort of fix . (For me anyway) I noticed when I was doing the hand swipe focus test (moving hand in front of sensor... Then moving when focuses and repeating).. and I noticed it was struggling until the little grey circle turned yellow from the "Shot Suggestion" feature... It looks like the phone is prioritizing getting a "good shot" to focusing... When I turned it off my focus sped up and seems to work instantly 99.5% of the time... Let me know if this works for any of you... Also I didn't read through the post so I don't know if this was posted or not.
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Shot suggestion was off by default on mine and I disabled scene optimizer as well.
Better question is why aren't the android sites or blogs picking up the auto focus/ camera story? Maybe a little more exposure will hurry Samsung to fix due to bad press.
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Better question is why aren't the android sites or blogs picking up the auto focus/ camera story? Maybe a little more exposure will hurry Samsung to fix due to bad press.
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I got Banned for pushing the issue in Samsung community. They obviously don't like the bad press.
Apparently Samsung has released a fix for Exynos variant https://www.sammobile.com/news/galaxy-s20-firmware-update-rolling-out-fix-camera-autofocus/
The only early review I saw that mentioned it was MKBHD and by that time my phone was already in transit heading to me.
Am so disappointed with Samsung i always buy the Galaxy/Note phone yearly and am doubtful i will continue.how can Samsung release such a god damn camera this horrible?? I have literally taken 0 good photos with this piece of **** phone. Every god damn photo I take seems like it was take with a phone from 15years ago. Am surprised no one has sued the crap out of them most people have already used up the 15 days return period or traded in an phone for credit and are stuck with this 1.4k piece of crap phone with no concrete info if or when it will be fixed.
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I've found a sort of fix . (For me anyway) I noticed when I was doing the hand swipe focus test (moving hand in front of sensor... Then moving when focuses and repeating).. and I noticed it was struggling until the little grey circle turned yellow from the "Shot Suggestion" feature... It looks like the phone is prioritizing getting a "good shot" to focusing... When I turned it off my focus sped up and seems to work instantly 99.5% of the time... Let me know if this works for any of you... Also I didn't read through the post so I don't know if this was posted or not.
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Am so disappointed with Samsung i always buy the Galaxy/Note phone yearly and am doubtful i will continue.how can Samsung release such a god damn camera this horrible?? I have literally taken 0 good photos with this piece of **** phone. Every god damn photo I take seems like it was take with a phone from 15years ago. Am surprised no one has sued the crap out of them most people have already used up the 15 days return period or traded in an phone for credit and are stuck with this 1.4k piece of crap phone with no concrete info if or when it will be fixed.
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Tell us how you really feel....Nobody forced you to buy it and why didnt you return it within the 15 days then?
Man, have some patience. This is a minor issue which only affects a small amount of people. Relax.
There is going to be an update in the next few days. https://www.androidcentral.com/late...errer=https://www.google.com&_tf=From %1$s
Commies said:
Man, have some patience. This is a minor issue which only affects a small amount of people. Relax.
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Seems to me it's pretty much across the board, not just on a small amount of people.
I cancelled an Ultra 512GB due to the many problems discussed in multiple places about the phone. If they ever fix it, I'll reconsider a purchase; but it has to be fixed first.
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There is going to be an update in the next few days. https://www.androidcentral.com/late...errer=https://www.google.com&_tf=From %1$s
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But not yet for the Qualcomm phones.
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Seems to me it's pretty much across the board, not just on a small amount of people.
I cancelled an Ultra 512GB due to the many problems discussed in multiple places about the phone. If they ever fix it, I'll reconsider a purchase; but it has to be fixed first.
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But not yet for the Qualcomm phones.
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It's not across the board. Not a single person I know (including myself) who bought the phone is having the issues. Just a select few online.
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I've found a sort of fix . (For me anyway) I noticed when I was doing the hand swipe focus test (moving hand in front of sensor... Then moving when focuses and repeating).. and I noticed it was struggling until the little grey circle turned yellow from the "Shot Suggestion" feature... It looks like the phone is prioritizing getting a "good shot" to focusing... When I turned it off my focus sped up and seems to work instantly 99.5% of the time... Let me know if this works for any of you... Also I didn't read through the post so I don't know if this was posted or not.
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Am so disappointed with Samsung i always buy the Galaxy/Note phone yearly and am doubtful i will continue.how can Samsung release such a god damn camera this horrible?? I have literally taken 0 good photos with this piece of **** phone. Every god damn photo I take seems like it was take with a phone from 15years ago. Am surprised no one has sued the crap out of them most people have already used up the 15 days return period or traded in an phone for credit and are stuck with this 1.4k piece of crap phone with no concrete info if or when it will be fixed.
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It's not across the board. Not a single person I know (including myself) who bought the phone is having the issues. Just a select few online.
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Thta's not accurate, the auto-focus is unusable on anything close.
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Thta's not accurate, the auto-focus is unusable on anything close.
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Maybe for you. It's fine for me and everyone I know with Snapdragon. My point isn't that it's not happening. It's that it's not happening to the majority of people and even if it was, it's not something that would be considered high priority.