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Was ( and still am) curious why Google choose MTP over MassStorage. The other member (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1023153) did some tests with interesting results. Can confirm that got similar results for MTP's favour ( transfered same video,music,pdf files to GN and HTC Sensation).
I don't think that was the only reason for Googles decision.
Also find out one very annoying experience with MTP : you can't edit file on phone memory. It has to be transfered to PC, modified and put back to phone...
aspot72 said:
Was ( and still am) curious why Google choose MTP over MassStorage. The other member (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1023153) did some tests with interesting results. Can confirm that got similar results for MTP's favour ( transfered same video,music,pdf files to GN and HTC Sensation).
I don't think that was the only reason for Googles decision.
Also find out one very annoying experience with MTP : you can't edit file on phone memory. It has to be transfered to PC, modified and put back to phone...
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It allows them to lump all of the internal storage together since MTP doesn't require the partition be unmounted with the phone.
Many people have phones that were partitioned poorly (N1, Vibrant, etc...) and after you install some apps you get an error that you've filled up your space (even though your phone still has 10GB free).
They hacked around it by doing Apps2SD, but even then, it wasn't perfect.
This new method allows them to utilize the full 16/32GB of storage however you want without any additional requirements from the user.
For most people that just want to copy their pictures off the phone, MTP is a lot smoother. It 'just works' and let's them get by with their day.
Unfortunately, the new way isn't perfect. I use Ubuntu for example and am having a hell of a time getting it to work. I eventually just gave up and installed a Samba File server instead.
Does anyone else have problems with folders not appearing or with errors when transferring files, or is it because I'm using a Mac and Android File Transfer software?
@tjhart85, you can get mtp working but you just need to compile the latest libmtp from source, libmtp that's included in the ubuntu repos is an older version.
i think I'm the minority here in that I actually like MTP.
The fact that I can unplug the phone, and it's ready to go is worth it. I hated the media scanning tool from gingerbread and before. Now the phone is ready to go when I unplug.
It lets the entire phone be one partition, so there are no annoying issues with multiple partitions for system, apps, etc.. It also lets the phone be used while its connected and transferring to/from the device. Also, no more mounting/unmounting and waiting for the device to be available.
It overall just removes headaches associated with files not being able to be accessed properly because they're on a different partition or on the SDcard (such as no widget support from apps installed on SDcard).
I also don't get the big deal over MTP and actually prefer it. I have a mac and haven't run into any problems. The file transferring didn't seem any slower and if anything seemed faster so I don't really get why everyone seemed to freak out when it was originally revealed.
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This explains it - from the horse's mouth itself.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...behind-galaxy-nexus-lack-of-usb-mass-storage/
wolfman87 said:
This explains it - from the horse's mouth itself.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...behind-galaxy-nexus-lack-of-usb-mass-storage/
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Great read. Thanks. I don't know why they're so against file managers, though.
tjhart85 said:
Unfortunately, the new way isn't perfect. I use Ubuntu for example and am having a hell of a time getting it to work. I eventually just gave up and installed a Samba File server instead.
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I haven't tried this, but it does look promising:
http://collectskin.com/adbfs/
It sure sounds better than setting up a samba server, and since it's based on adb it can be made to run over wifi (although I'm not sure that is recommended).
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Buddy Revell said:
Does anyone else have problems with folders not appearing or with errors when transferring files, or is it because I'm using a Mac and Android File Transfer software?
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It seems not all folders are appearing over MTP.
For instance my TitaniumBackup folder stored in /sdcard does not show at all and I'm not sure why. It might be because the folder contains no files the phone can work with? I honestly have no idea.
This was on Windows. Not Linux or Mac. So it seems to be a MTP-issue, not a platform-issue.
I had to adb shell in, create a tar of that and then adb pull it out to get it.
So yeah. MTP has its flaws. Hence me working on a workaround:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1423392
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aspot72 said:
Also find out one very annoying experience with MTP : you can't edit file on phone memory. It has to be transfered to PC, modified and put back to phone...
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If I were to nitpick I would have to say that technically speaking that was always true, but yeah, now you actually have to manage that transfer manually and that sucks.
But you can use the memory on the phone while transferring from pc!
jamontoast1291 said:
I also don't get the big deal over MTP and actually prefer it. I have a mac and haven't run into any problems. The file transferring didn't seem any slower and if anything seemed faster ...
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can I ask what exactly happens when you plug into a MAC? Eg, do you have to launch ATP, does it appear in Finder, does it launch iPhoto automatically? I'm just trying to get a picture & short of taking my MAC into town ... has anyone YT'd this?
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MTP also solves the 4GB file size limit. With USB mass storage all phones have FAT32 for their data partition in order to be compatible with most computer, but that means 4GB file limit.
With MTP the file system isn't visible for the computer, so the phones will use a good filesystem like EXT4 also for the data partition.
hi all
any1 know of a method or programs to copy/transfer files > 4GB to HOX?
Just mount as Removable Device, right click and Paste. I copied a 12gb HD movie to my HOX last night.
dr9722 said:
Just mount as Removable Device, right click and Paste. I copied a 12gb HD movie to my HOX last night.
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I have done that.. and then it stops to tell me cant copy/transfer files > 4GB because FAT32 does not allow it (Partition type limitation)
I even tried FTP'ing the file to the device and it stopped at 4GB exactly
Have you formatted your card differently?
are you using windows to transfer/copy the files? (I am)
do you use the standard windows copy/transfer method? (I am Using TerraCopy)
just plug the usb to pc and format the sd card as NTFS and you can remove the limitations of 4GB
kami2k said:
just plug the usb to pc and format the sd card as NTFS and you can remove the limitations of 4GB
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Won't that affect how apps are installed as well? AFAIK most devs optimise their apps for FAT32, as it's the default format of the storage.
Nop who said u so? Apkz r file independent
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Nop who said u so? Apkz r file independent
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have you formatted you SD to NTFS?
as I have read on another Forum post that once they formatted the Card and rebooted.. the card reformatted to FAT32
@dr9722 could you please state all your system specs that has allowed you to transfer the files
including the model of your HOX and the ROM maybe this affects it as well (dont know why it should??)
i thought linux (out of the box at least) doesn't support ntfs?
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i thought linux (out of the box at least) doesn't support ntfs?
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to my understanding that is true.. so how did anyone manage to copy a file >4GB to their HOX?
Anyone?
personally, i split the files with this method:
www.logichaos.com/joomla/guides/35/60-how-to-split-mkv-to-multiple-mkv-files.html
website isn't loading at the moment, maybe server is down or something
(google cached text only version works though: http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...tiple-mkv-files.html&hl=en&prmd=imvns&strip=1 )
if it still isn't working later theres loads of other pages that show ways to do it just search google for how to split mkv files
bit of a pain, but i normally watch tv episodes rather than movies so they're normally small enough even when in hd
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&so..._oG4Bg&usg=AFQjCNFFe5JNQ6pMb1mhUzRPLO3bNaGEYg
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It'd have to be formatted as exFAT or something. I don't know if it's doable, but that's the only way I can think of. Or possibly as ext4 and do file transfer via MTP.
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this thread has so many replies yet my thread which is much more crucial doesnt have any help! please guys, help me out on q&a
swordsx48 said:
this thread has so many replies yet my thread which is much more crucial doesnt have any help! please guys, help me out on q&a
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Please refrain from hijacking threads
lawrence750 said:
personally, i split the files with this method:
www.logichaos.com/joomla/guides/35/60-how-to-split-mkv-to-multiple-mkv-files.html
website isn't loading at the moment, maybe server is down or something
(google cached text only version works though: http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...tiple-mkv-files.html&hl=en&prmd=imvns&strip=1 )
if it still isn't working later theres loads of other pages that show ways to do it just search google for how to split mkv files
bit of a pain, but i normally watch tv episodes rather than movies so they're normally small enough even when in hd
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Thanks man I know about that method but thanks for the info great help for those that wanna copy movies to their phone
my problem lies in an actual file Copy ie. DVD image
yes I can zip it and split the files into varying sizes but then it defeats the purpose as I would like to move the file as is (time saving)
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Thanks man I know about that method but thanks for the info great help for those that wanna copy movies to their phone
my problem lies in an actual file Copy ie. DVD image
yes I can zip it and split the files into varying sizes but then it defeats the purpose as I would like to move the file as is (time saving)
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if i'm honest, i don't think it's possible without a rom mod - maybe ask a rom developer if it's possible.
you would need to modify a lot of stuff so it all works together properly, and that's if its ntfs.
exfat would no doubt be easier on the android side to implement, but then you'd need an app on windows side to be able to read that (win7 might actually include exfat support actually...)
still it's not something possible by means of just an app etc i don't think.
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http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&so..._oG4Bg&usg=AFQjCNFFe5JNQ6pMb1mhUzRPLO3bNaGEYg
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dont think this is specific mkv splitting so you wouldn't be able to watch the split mkv, you'd need to go onto a pc and merge the files before you could watch it, which would then leave you with a file that is once again too big to fit onto the phone :silly:
Hi all,
For the purists amongst you, like myself, I have attached a modified, repacked boot image that will mount (automatically) external storage devices to /storage/usbdisk and /storage.
You need to be rooted and unlocked.
Installation:
Backup your boot image with recovery of your choice
Reboot into bootloader
fastboot flash boot neostock421.img
reboot into android
rename vold.txt to vold.fstab (XDA wouldn't let me upload a vold.fstab)
copy and paste vold.fstab (attached) into /system/etc/
set permissions on vold.fstab to 755
reboot
plug in your drive and enjoy
Notes:
The storage device will not show up in settings/storage, that requires modification of the framework, I could do it (if there is a suitable apktool available) and package the lot as an update.zip but for the time being I won't.
Observations:
I have observed that in Root explorer, the device is mounted read-only initially (you can simply remount read-write), but if I open /storage/usbdisk in Estrongs and return to Root Explorer, it's now read-write. Either way, you should no trouble getting read-write.
Warnings:
Do the above at your own risk, I take no responsibility, bla bla, etc etc.
Thanks for your stuff
Added in the Index for N10
Hello! Thank you! I can flash this on stock ROM? OTG will work?
Slin1402 said:
Hello! Thank you! I can flash this on stock ROM? OTG will work?
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Yep,
That's the Idea Enjoy.
Does it support ext3/4 file systems, or only FAT?
This is not good!
ITS GREAT!
Thank you!!
:laugh:
:good:
Not working here :\
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Not working here :\
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It just auto mounts existing supported file systems, nothing more, nothing less.
I haven't tested it with anything other than a fat file system cause that's all I have on my pen drives.
Unfortunately the N10 doesn't appear to source enough power to power my 2.5" hdd, shame cause my XOOM used to power it just fine.
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I am using an external WD My Book Essential with external power supply. Is it suppposed to have a notification after it's plugged in? Cause it doesn't happen and it doesn't appear in Settings -> Storage.
xtzz said:
I am using an external WD My Book Essential with external power supply. Is it suppposed to have a notification after it's plugged in? Cause it doesn't happen and it doesn't appear in Settings -> Storage.
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Nope, no notification, and nothing in Settings->Storage (like I said in OP).
Just open your file browser and it's mounted and visible in 3 places;
/mnt/usbdisk
/storage/usbdisk
/usbdisk
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Had to wait for some time, I guess it needed it to index the files or whatever, finally it's working.
Thanks for your awesome work, I really missed only the USB OTG storage support from the stock jop40d
xtzz said:
Had to wait for some time, I guess it needed it to index the files or whatever, finally it's working.
Thanks for your awesome work, I really missed only the USB OTG storage support from the stock jop40d
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What is your HD formatted in, FAT32 or NFTS?
How does this work with TWRP? Meaning, if a flash drive is selected as the destination, on a reboot of TWRP, is the setting retained?
wptski said:
What is your HD formatted in, FAT32 or NFTS?
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+1
This works with any file system? Only FAT or NTFS, only read or write?
Slin1402 said:
+1
This works with any file system? Only FAT or NTFS, only read or write?
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Only FAT... R/W
@alias_neo, hit me up on PM... I'd like to work with you to get this to a better state... aka, NTFS & settings storage support... I'm not running stock right now, so I need someone to send me some files and test it!!
craigacgomez said:
Only FAT... R/W
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Yep that's right guys, as Craig says. If you want NTFS, go check out his amazing ROM, this is only intended for those that want to stay stock as possible.
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alias_neo said:
Yep that's right guys, as Craig says. If you want NTFS, go check out his amazing ROM, this is only intended for those that want to stay stock as possible.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
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Do you think we can use this mod to mount a wireless hard drive like the Seagate GoFlex or the Kingston Wi-Drive if using this guide?
http://reviewlagoon.com/nexus-7-tutorial-mount-network-share-as-a-drive/
cadiken said:
Do you think we can use this mod to mount a wireless hard drive like the Seagate GoFlex or the Kingston Wi-Drive if using this guide?
http://reviewlagoon.com/nexus-7-tutorial-mount-network-share-as-a-drive/
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This thread is more suited for that purpose... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003836
craigacgomez said:
This thread is more suited for that purpose... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003836
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Thanks
It's done. I repleced original SSHD with SAmsung SSD.
If someone else is interested in how to do this I'll help.
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Some users and moderator has asked me to add mote information what this is about.
Here is the very same text I have done for the whole package to do HDD/SSD preparation to use it as an internal Nvidia Shield TV Pro disk:
This is a guide to change Nvidia Shield TV Pro internal SSHD to SSD (or other 500GB drive).
This will only tell how to prepare SSD for this Nvidia Shield TV PRO 500GB. You have to also know how to open the device, how to take old disk out and how to put new to replace it. You also need a Linux computer with free SATA port to connect your drive to for flashing it. However there are not any screws to hold the drive and it has a common SATA connection.
Preparation takes two binary files to be put on the new drive. I have only done this for Samsung EVO 850 500GB drive (type MZ-75E500B/EU). I suppose this works with other similar drives too, but I can not guarantee it.
Here is what you need to do:
1. unzip start.zip and put binary file start.bin in the beginning of your SSD drive. I use Linux command DD to do this. If your drive is sdX the command will be something like this:
dd if=start.bin of=/dev/sdX bs=4M
2. unzip end_976574630.zip and put binary file end_976574630.bin to a proper place of the same disk. Again with DD it would be something like this:
dd if=end_976574630.bin of=/dev/sdX seek=976574630
3. put the SSD drive in your Nvidia Shield TV PRO and boot it up. Let it run about 15 minutes. It will not boot until you now cold boot it second time.
It takes a minute or two to boot this time and the device will come up as expected.
Enjoy your new Nvidia Shield TV PRO SSD !!!!
B.T.W The same procedure works with a normal 500GB HDD too in case you would like to use this type disk. So - this also works as an emergency backup in case the original drive will become defective.
Edit 2: System does not allow attaching files while editing a post. So - here you have a direct link to the message where file is as an attachment.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67426622&postcount=23
Tilator said:
It's done. I repleced original SSHD with SAmsung SSD.
If someone else is interested in how to do this I'll help.
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Were you able to do this with the factory rom or is this using another rom/os?
xaudiblex said:
Were you able to do this with the factory rom or is this using another rom/os?
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It is a normal factory rom.
Tilator said:
It's done. I repleced original SSHD with SAmsung SSD.
If someone else is interested in how to do this I'll help.
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So can I upgrade my 16GB SATV to whatever SSD my budget allows?
I'm interested!
seapoint said:
So can I upgrade my 16GB SATV to whatever SSD my budget allows?
I'm interested!
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Do you have a non-HD version? Then this will not work.
I have only made it possible to replace internal disk drive (SSHD) with SSD. This will not work with 16GB version but you need the 500GB Pro version to do this.
Guide please
AndroiderM said:
Guide please
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Just wait a second. I'll make guide and put everything you need in it. It takes a few GB data since there will be a 7GB and an other 0.1GB files to be put on the SSD.
I did it with Samsung EVO 850 500GB disk (MZ-75E500B/EU) I don't guarantee it to work with other disk even though there should not be anything against it.
I just try to make a torrent out of the package.
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Just wait a second. I'll make guide and put everything you need in it. It takes a few GB data since there will be a 7GB and an other 0.1GB files to be put on the SSD.
I did it with Samsung EVO 850 500GB disk (MZ-75E500B/EU) I don't guarantee it to work with other disk even though there should not be anything against it.
I just try to make a torrent out of the package.
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I have a Samsung 840 pro 256gb fingers crossed
AndroiderM said:
I have a Samsung 840 pro 256gb fingers crossed
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I'm sorry but it will definitely not work because it's not big enough. Needs to be 500GB.
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Just wait a second. I'll make guide and put everything you need in it. It takes a few GB data since there will be a 7GB and an other 0.1GB files to be put on the SSD.
I did it with Samsung EVO 850 500GB disk (MZ-75E500B/EU) I don't guarantee it to work with other disk even though there should not be anything against it.
I just try to make a torrent out of the package.
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I'm sorry but it will definitely not work because it's not big enough. Needs to be 500GB.
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I would invest in a 500gb eventually if your method is tested and proven to work. Too bad the 256 won't work ?
AndroiderM said:
I would invest in a 500gb eventually if your method is tested and proven to work. Too bad the 256 won't work
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It's tested and proven to work but you have to trust me on it
Just tell me what tracker(s) would be good. I haven't shared a torrent for ages.
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It's tested and proven to work but you have to trust me on it
Just tell me what tracker(s) would be good. I haven't shared a torrent for ages.
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I use Kickass kat.cr don't know about trackers I just click the magnet lol. Dropbox or Google Drive or any host site will work too
I THINK ?
AndroiderM said:
I use Kickass kat.cr don't know about trackers I just click the magnet lol. Dropbox or Google Drive or any host site will work too
I THINK ��
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Let's see how this goes. There is the torrent fil as an attachment.
Edit: this torrent is not valid any more. Just use the latter one attached to message #23.
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Let's see how this goes. There is the torrent fil as an attachment.
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Works it's downloading now except your the only seeder lol. 3.3 gb?
I'm getting 0kbs cause there's no peers to seed
Absolutely nobody is seeding this, could you upload it to mega, Dropbox, drive, etc. Or can you just post a guide?
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Absolutely nobody is seeding this, could you upload it to mega, Dropbox, drive, etc. Or can you just post a guide?
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Well, I have an FTP server myself, but I don't like the idea of me uploading it again and again.
I'll try to find out an other solution. I'll also keep the torrent up anyway.
why not simply post it here?
your secretive ways will have people believe this is some kind of catch...
BenG7 said:
why not simply post it here?
your secretive ways will have people believe this is some kind of catch...
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It's 3.3 GB zipped. Does it fit here?
sorry maybe I missed something
the tutorial is 3.2 Gb?
or some tools are required, amounting to 3.2 gb?
thanks
megaupload / dropbox would be better
I have many gigs of files that need to be transferred to my phone's MicroSD card from the PC. The MicroSD card (Sandisk Ultra 64GB) is capable of 10 MB/s write speeds but I'm seeing ridiculously slow transfer rates using USB data cable or supposedly fast file transfer apps like SuperBeam, slow as in a lousy 5-15 Mb/s (yes, megaBITS!). It will take forever to transfer what I need to. Is there a way to transfer files from PC to Redmi Note 5 that can be done in MB/s instead of the completely unacceptable Mb/s ?
I have sandisk ultra 64gb and it is capable of 30MBps using usb 3 card reader. take it out and copy. mtp is too slow less than 10MBps
yusoffb01 said:
I have sandisk ultra 64gb and it is capable of 30MBps using usb 3 card reader. take it out and copy. mtp is too slow less than 10MBps
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Yeah, I was hoping to avoid having to take the MicroSD out but you're right - it's the absolute fastest way to do it. Took just over a minute or two to transfer over a 1GB whereas MTP would have probably taken over an hour.
some recoveries can enable mass storage option. Also if rooted there are some apps you can try to enable mass storage option for external microsd card.
I always use Airdroid to transfer files. Should work fast if your wifi is good.
It seems you have many small files, those usually will slow down MTP a lot. When I have to backup my WA folder, I just use MiXplorer, copy it to PC SMB share folder. I just let it transfer while doing something else, speed is about 1-2 MB/s average, but better than MTP which usually stuck at somewhere because the MTP cache is not updated.
But if I want to copy it fast, I would use adb pull. More hassle, as you need to type the path completely, but very fast even for multiple small files (faster than using wifi/MTP). I forgot to measure it last time, and it may be different with your microsd. So, you have to tried it out.
Desmanto said:
But if I want to copy it fast, I would use adb pull. More hassle, as you need to type the path completely, but very fast even for multiple small files (faster than using wifi/MTP). I forgot to measure it last time, and it may be different with your microsd. So, you have to tried it out.
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Yes, lots of small files. ADB push seems the way to go. What would be the syntax for transferring multiple files and subfolders from my PC to my android device? I'm assuming wildcards aren't supported.
JackOfOwls said:
Yes, lots of small files. ADB push seems the way to go. What would be the syntax for transferring multiple files and subfolders from my PC to my android device? I'm assuming wildcards aren't supported.
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Oh, you want to copy to microsd, yes, should be adb push. Just replace the path with your destination. No wildcard support. It is probably faster if you copy to certain folder first and move it again at the phone. Or just simply copy the whole folder. Other method is without adb, you can just zip the small files and later unzip at the phone using MiXplorer. Yes, that will use up unnecessary write cycle, but time is much more important.
I have actually created a right click holder in the folder and files, connect it to eventghost. Selecting this menu will trigger the adb command to push the file/folder directly to /sdcard/download/ folder at the phone. I have ever create the script to parse the destination too, but my python skill is very limited. I can do it much better using automagic, but that is at the phone side only, while this must be done at PC side. Still finding time to learn python properly.
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I have actually created a right click holder in the folder and files, connect it to eventghost. Selecting this menu will trigger the adb command to push the file/folder directly to /sdcard/download/ folder at the phone. I have ever create the script to parse the destination too, but my python skill is very limited. I can do it much better using automagic, but that is at the phone side only, while this must be done at PC side. Still finding time to learn python properly.
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I'm surprised someone didn't make an app with a GUI that automatically runs ADB and the "push" command to simplify the process and eliminate the need for command lines. There was an app on XDA that enabled Mass Storage in later versions of android but, alas, not Oreo or later (Redmi Not 5).