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is usb mass storage possible with root?

Just got a brand new Galaxy nexus today and haven't got a chance to root it yet. But i was seriously appalled by the fact that it doesn't support usb mass storage, which i did not know before buying it.
I just wanted to know, will rooting make usb mass storage possible?
no sd card and now this? I mean i love the phone but i can only take so much.

So you bought a Galaxy Nexus, but didn't know it didn't support UMS?
What's your specific problem with MTP?

martonikaj said:
So you bought a Galaxy Nexus, but didn't know it didn't support UMS?
What's your specific problem with MTP?
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MTP?
Yes i did buy it without knowledge of that. I guess that's what i deserve for not reading fine print?
You failed to answer my question though...
Rooting must enable mass storage though or how would roms be flashable?

ROMs are transferred to the phone via MTP on Windows, just like music and videos are transferred.
MTP is the replacement for USB Mass Storage. You can still transfer files back and forth.

donlad said:
ROMs are transferred to the phone via MTP on Windows, just like music and videos are transferred.
MTP is the replacement for USB Mass Storage. You can still transfer files back and forth.
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Thank you. I came from an incredible and i guess i expected everything to be the same.
My bad for posting prematurely and now i probably look pretty stupid, but i can blame it on it being late. thanks for your help anyway.
Looks like a got it figured out. Thanks again.

your question still wasnt answered. and yes some roms offer it i believe

donlad said:
ROMs are transferred to the phone via MTP on Windows, just like music and videos are transferred.
MTP is the replacement for USB Mass Storage. You can still transfer files back and forth.
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MTP does not transfer everything.
Try transferring your titanium backup files from your Nexus to your PC via MTP. I dare you. They're NOT there when you look at the Nexus from the PC-end.
Extracting stuff via "adb push" works fine though. This, and not having a drive-letter (so that things cant be scripted) was one motivation for me to start working on this thing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1423392

Google/Samsung switched to MTP because now the OS and the files are on the same partition. So if you would mount the whole partition as mass storage your android would get down :-D
Maybe it could work with creating a new partition?

please please please work on this!!
I NEED UMS support bad!

josteink said:
MTP does not transfer everything.
Try transferring your titanium backup files from your Nexus to your PC via MTP. I dare you. They're NOT there when you look at the Nexus from the PC-end.
Extracting stuff via "adb push" works fine though. This, and not having a drive-letter (so that things cant be scripted) was one motivation for me to start working on this thing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1423392
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Just transferred my contents backed up by TiBu. Works fine.
You are right, they are not viewable from PC to phone. They transfer and copy fine (entire directory).

chizzy58 said:
please please please work on this!!
I NEED UMS support bad!
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figure out how to put a SD card in the nexus and i bet it will work

josteink said:
MTP does not transfer everything.
Try transferring your titanium backup files from your Nexus to your PC via MTP. I dare you. They're NOT there when you look at the Nexus from the PC-end.
Extracting stuff via "adb push" works fine though. This, and not having a drive-letter (so that things cant be scripted) was one motivation for me to start working on this thing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1423392
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Really? I transferred my titanium folder from Sensation 4G and it worked fine

chizzy58 said:
please please please work on this!!
I NEED UMS support bad!
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For what reason?

josteink said:
MTP does not transfer everything.
Try transferring your titanium backup files from your Nexus to your PC via MTP. I dare you. They're NOT there when you look at the Nexus from the PC-end.
Extracting stuff via "adb push" works fine though. This, and not having a drive-letter (so that things cant be scripted) was one motivation for me to start working on this thing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1423392
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tried this many times. titanium transferring works perfectly.

Well, my problem is I work on pc's , sometimes a customer's machine doesn't get the Ethernet or wireless drivers after and install. I would normally download them on my droid x and use mass storage to transfer the file over....that works in windows 7...NOTin xp.
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chizzy58 said:
Well, my problem is I work on pc's , sometimes a customer's machine doesn't get the Ethernet or wireless drivers after and install. I would normally download them on my droid x and use mass storage to transfer the file over....that works in windows 7...NOTin xp.
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it's called a flash drive, have you heard of those?

I'm sure the OP has heard of a flash drive. However it would be much easier to just mount the phone like he has done in the past to transfer the downloaded file. Fishing out a USB OTG adapter, flash drive, and transferring is just extra steps.
Yes, a flash drive is probably the best bet for now... but I see why the OP finds it less than ideal compared to what he was used to.
Perhaps someone will come out with a custom ROM that has a new partition scheme to allow UMS. I personally wouldn't mind having a little 512MB partition on here for just that purpose.

thequinox said:
I'm sure the OP has heard of a flash drive. However it would be much easier to just mount the phone like he has done in the past to transfer the downloaded file. Fishing out a USB OTG adapter, flash drive, and transferring is just extra steps.
Yes, a flash drive is probably the best bet for now... but I see why the OP finds it less than ideal compared to what he was used to.
Perhaps someone will come out with a custom ROM that has a new partition scheme to allow UMS. I personally wouldn't mind having a little 512MB partition on here for just that purpose.
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No no no. Keep the files on the flash drive. Plug it into the computer. Win? Or if you need to find new drivers, you surely have a laptop you can use at work. Faster to find + download then using the phone anyway.
Having your phone + USB cable to hook it up to the computer is more cumbersome than just keeping the drivers for your work on flash drive

What if you need to transfer different files back and forth, and don't always keep a flash drive on you? I found with my HTC Desire that having mass storage was very useful for when I didn't have a flash drive... Admittedly, I can use my gnex for the same thing as all computers I use have win7 - but that is beside the point!

Surely it is possible to create some app, so as far as the PC is concerned it is connected to a USB device, but on the phone something else is occurring? Through some buffer or something...
I'm interested as well, as I'm having some trouble setting my Fedora laptop to talk as MTP. I'm comfortable transferring files via ADB but it can be a chore, and obviously none of my friends will have adb on their computers so transferring files socially will be a little hampered...

Unable to transfer to pc

Basically when I try to copy things from the SD card while using the phone in MTP, it only copys an empty folder. Files wont move at all. Is there some kind of lock? Using windows 7 and I have AOKP rom. Samsung driver is installed from: http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/SGH-I747MBBATT

Lock? No. It's always finicky for me. Is it just large files, or all files?

Its all files. Also I lost my titanium backup because it turned the folder into a "file" and I couldnt change it back and deleted it before even thinking about it.

I don't know why it happened. Maybe you should learn to use adb
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Try using the 1.4.6 drivers, instead of the latest ones. They are the same ones used for the og Note, originally. Also the ones used on the S3 when it first came out. If you click on the captivate sig link in my sig, there's a link to the I717 drivers.

mrhaley30705 said:
I don't know why it happened. Maybe you should learn to use adb
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+1 for adb.
usb is very finicky. when copying entire folders, as you said, often the folder will transfer quickly. this will be a sure sign that no data was exchanged. sure enough, the pasted folder will be empty. oddly enough, if you drag the files within the folder one-by-one to the destination device, they will transfer. just a pain, especially if there are many files within the folder.

I know how to adb but I shouldnt need to just to transfer files.

Read edit to previous post

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I did but I was just saying, why should I have to use adb for something that should be as simple as drag/drop? I can't seem to find it though. I don't see previous version on the samsung site. Will it work if I just use the note driver?
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Ok it is working now on the current normal driver. For some reason it was just happening hard before. Now its acting fine.
On another note, sometimes it says the HWID is invalid or something?

Yeah, that happens. Just reboot the computer and phone, seems to fix it for awhile.

Well as I read its the MTP thing that causes this? I like how it works because it doesn't stop me from using the phone while its transfering to my PC.
Anywho, thanks for the help and info.

Why I will NEVER buy another Nexus device again.

The file system is whack!
Why?
Try this very simple test.
Create a new folder and create some files to put in there.
Use a USB cable and plug it into your laptop.
Open your phone.
Where is your new folder and files?
But wait, if you open up ES File Explorer on the phone, everything is there?
Okay, reboot your phone.
Then, plug it into your laptop again.
Okay, now everything is there.
It's like you have to reboot your Nexus device in order to allow your laptop to see a refresh of the storage memory.
This is why removable memory is the way to go.

I just use Filezilla and ftpserver from the play store. Easy and fast. I'll never plug my phone into the computer again to transfer files.

use a good file explorer that does refresh the storage index...try solid explorer..problem solved
every change made by solid explorer to the file system is notified to the android media store index, try to repeat your steps with solid explorer
(that happens to every new phone out there that use MTP over mass storage file transfer, about 90% of new smartphone, even phone with removable storage use MTP today )

Wires are much too cumbersome. I use ES file manager to move files to/from my tablets/PC/dropbox/Box.com. Copy and paste between any and all of those easier than using a full desktop PC. No need to search for a wire. Or even be in the same room as your PC. Problem solved.
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Thanks everyone!
I'll try these ideas.

andQlimax said:
use a good file explorer that does refresh the storage index...try solid explorer..problem solved
every change made by solid explorer to the file system is notified to the android media store index, try to repeat your steps with solid explorer
(that happens to every new phone out there that use MTP over mass storage file transfer, about 90% of new smartphone, even phone with removable storage use MTP today )
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But, the nice thing about removable storage is that it's easy to pop out the memory card and put it into your laptop. I only wish that laptop makers would put a micro SD card slot into laptops so I don't have to keep my adapter in there.
Plus, it copies way faster that way, in my experience. Also, Windows Explorer treats it like storage device, instead of some weird "thing" with the MTP method, ie, Teracopy never works with MTP.

i use root explorer and never had that issue. i created folder thru root explorer and i plugged into my laptop and i was able to view folder. but i got to say when i first got my gnex i was scared because of not having a removable sd card. but when i did have my droid X my sd card did fail, but luckily i backed everything up to my laptop before it actually failed.

Neo3D said:
Thanks everyone!
I'll try these ideas.
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excuse me, but you have created a post to state that you are not buying another Nexus device just for that silly reason you mention?
ohhh, please.... :laugh::silly:

itasoulas said:
excuse me, but you have created a post to state that you are not buying another Nexus device just for that silly reason you mention?
ohhh, please.... :laugh::silly:
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neo isnt very smart and is overly dramatic.

Neo3D said:
The file system is whack!
Why?
Try this very simple test.
Create a new folder and create some files to put in there.
Use a USB cable and plug it into your laptop.
Open your phone.
Where is your new folder and files?
But wait, if you open up ES File Explorer on the phone, everything is there?
Okay, reboot your phone.
Then, plug it into your laptop again.
Okay, now everything is there.
It's like you have to reboot your Nexus device in order to allow your laptop to see a refresh of the storage memory.
This is why removable memory is the way to go.
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Which is your Galaxy Nexus version? International one? I have one GSM and I've never had this kind of problem..

peppo6 said:
Which is your Galaxy Nexus version? International one? I have one GSM and I've never had this kind of problem..
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Verizon version.

Neo3D said:
The file system is whack!
Why?
Try this very simple test.
Create a new folder and create some files to put in there.
Use a USB cable and plug it into your laptop.
Open your phone.
Where is your new folder and files?
But wait, if you open up ES File Explorer on the phone, everything is there?
Okay, reboot your phone.
Then, plug it into your laptop again.
Okay, now everything is there.
It's like you have to reboot your Nexus device in order to allow your laptop to see a refresh of the storage memory.
This is why removable memory is the way to go.
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What? That has nothing to do with internal storage versus Sd... Might wanna learn how computers work and how to use a file explorer...

cstrife999 said:
What? That has nothing to do with internal storage versus Sd... Might wanna learn how computers work and how to use a file explorer...
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Uhh, might want to know what you're talking about before trash typing....with SD you can remove the card and use the MUCH BETTER & 10x FASTER Windows file manager, can't do that with the Nexus internal storage.

du bist krank said:
Good riddance.
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fantard

This is not a Galaxy 'Nexus' problem, it's an Android thing, its MTP.

Any app that can trigger a media scan should cure that without having to reboot.
I've been using filezilla on my pc to push files to my phone for awhile though and it is much more convenient. USB transfer is slow and those cords always break on me >.<
That's no reason to ditch the galaxy nexus though. Maybe the terrible screen, poor placement of headphone jack, and battery life though... Lol
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Neo3D said:
Verizon version.
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So, I think it's just a problem linked to your Gnex. When I plug mine, I always see it on my pc like a removal memory.. And this should happen if you are rooted or not, it doesn't depend on it.
Inviato dal mio Galaxy Nexus utilizzando Tapatalk

18 months of updates doesn't warrant buying a nexus anymore, I just buy a better hardware non nexus phone an install the latest google stock on it using a custom rom.

Uninstall mtp drivers from drivers management and install it again
Remove all drivers related to gnex and install again
Just download latest USB drivers zip
http://developer.android.com/sdk/win-usb.html
And follow istructions
http://developer.android.com/tools/extras/oem-usb.html#InstallingDriver

Don't know how but I never faced this issue. I use file manager.

[Q] GalaxyNexus Deleted all files after connecting to PC [Help]

So I connected it to my laptop to clean up some of my files and folders and to transfer some things onto my pc.
I remember deleting some folder called Mogo-Audiance or something along those lines, as well as another folder that seemed to be unimportant. I try to then move some music files from the download folder into my Music folder (transferring within the phone at this point) but it says theres some error and it can't be moved. I rebooted and replugged tried again no avail. Then tried moving a picture from phone to the computer. Error message again. Reboot once more and this time when I go into MTP only two files remain: Android and Viber. I check my phone itself and all my photos/videos/music are gone. Apps still remain intact however. I already tried Stellar Phoenix Recovery but it won't detect my phone.
Very frustrated and have no idea how to proceed.....
I attached some screenshots showing empty phone folders on pc and phone itself as well as recovery program being unable to detect phone.
Android 4.3 Jellybean-Carrier: WIND Mobile (Canada)

It cannot detect phone because it needs to Mount as USB mass storage device. No external storage= no UMS
You might be able to dump raw IMG somehow of storage and put on flash drive and try to recover... but takes lotta work.
Seems like you deleted something you shouldn't have. Take it as lesson learned to not just delete random files if you don't know what it is

ashclepdia said:
It cannot detect phone because it needs to Mount as USB mass storage device. No external storage= no UMS
You might be able to dump raw IMG somehow of storage and put on flash drive and try to recover... but takes lotta work.
Seems like you deleted something you shouldn't have. Take it as lesson learned to not just delete random files if you don't know what it is
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I'm actually about to cry. The photos I had on there were invaluable to me, please explain that way that you said I might be able to get it back.

taino001 said:
I'm actually about to cry. The photos I had on there were invaluable to me, please explain that way that you said I might be able to get it back.
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I'm sorry to hear that.
And also sorry to say I cannot help anymore than providing this information here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1994705
As I said, it is a lengthy and maybe in depth process but MAY be possible. No guarantee.
I haven't ever had to try this tho so I cannot give any more or better info other than what is in that thread.
Just take your time, use Google for things you cannot understand(you may ask me or here in this thread also for clarification of some steps and if I can help I will) and try not to stress.
And one thing I will recommend for future use is to install G+ and turn on photo sync settings. I have this on. You get 15gb free storage for photos and will backup as you take pictures and videos OR whenever you tell it to.
Or you could use dropbox or similar as that also has a photo sync option available. These things are invaluable in terms of peace of mind for if situation like this ever occurs again.

Writing to externalSD...

I'm having issues that I cannot be sure if its affected by Googles dropped support of writing to externalSD or not.
When I hook my phone up to the laptop via USB I do this to transfer music to the micro externalSD, which is 64GB card, into my Music folder. The first thing I do is make a new folder on it to label the folder by band name. When I do that it just sits there idling and won't change names from New Folder to a band name folder. Same thing happened when I tested another way by just dropping a music file on it. It just acts busy and never processes the transfer.
The only way I've gotten it to work was taking the micro externalSD card out of the slot of the phone and putting it into the bigger card then insert it into the laptop and do my work that way. It works that way but I can't tell if its that KitKat issue that's affecting it or its something else.
Has anybody been transferring files via USB or doing what I do?

heXacode said:
I'm having issues that I cannot be sure if its affected by Googles dropped support of writing to externalSD or not.
When I hook my phone up to the laptop via USB I do this to transfer music to the micro externalSD, which is 64GB card, into my Music folder. The first thing I do is make a new folder on it to label the folder by band name. When I do that it just sits there idling and won't change names from New Folder to a band name folder. Same thing happened when I tested another way by just dropping a music file on it. It just acts busy and never processes the transfer.
The only way I've gotten it to work was taking the micro externalSD card out of the slot of the phone and putting it into the bigger card then insert it into the laptop and do my work that way. It works that way but I can't tell if its that KitKat issue that's affecting it or its something else.
Has anybody been transferring files via USB or doing what I do?
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If you use the Samsung Kies application, it works. At least it works for me using Kies. Haven't tried just using the file explorer.

The external SD restriction is only from within the OS itself. It only affects third-party file managers (or any app trying to modify files on the external sd). Doing anything on a computer should work. Something is wrong with your phone.
I've had this happen when my devices' OS gets messed up. Factory reset (or reflash when I was using custom roms) usually fixes it. I don't know the details, but something with the way the phone presents its storage to the computer gets messed up.

I only hit the idle if my phone screen is off, if I keep it awake it writes like a charm

thanitos said:
I only hit the idle if my phone screen is off, if I keep it awake it writes like a charm
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Yeah and file transfers will slow to 0kb/s and eventually (after a long time of waiting) the computer will say something about the device not being found. Right?
This is what I was saying. As long as you aren't running a custom rom (which you can't on the n910a), then a factory reset SHOULD fix it.

spexwood said:
Yeah and file transfers will slow to 0kb/s and eventually (after a long time of waiting) the computer will say something about the device not being found. Right?
This is what I was saying. As long as you aren't running a custom rom (which you can't on the n910a), then a factory reset SHOULD fix it.
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Yeah, I just keep my phone awake though, not really interested in factory reset, lol, maybe the op will though, I just don't transfer enough stuff

thanitos said:
Yeah, I just keep my phone awake though, not really interested in factory reset, lol, maybe the op will though, I just don't transfer enough stuff
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Sorry, thought you WERE the OP. Lol
Didn't realize you were a different person.
If it works for you then do what you're doing. If it gets worse or something, try my suggestion though. It should fix it, but yeah, factory resets can be annoying.

spexwood said:
Sorry, thought you WERE the OP. Lol
Didn't realize you were a different person.
If it works for you then do what you're doing. If it gets worse or something, try my suggestion though. It should fix it, but yeah, factory resets can be annoying.
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Yeah titanium backup would make it a bit nicer, an icloud style backup would be a godsend

I'm the OP of this thread, lol. Anyways. Did a couple things to test out ideas.
One... Kies... I hate it. Sorry asjshenry. Thanks for the advice though.
Two... tried a different Samsung USB. Same issue.
Three... I may have done something wrong last time with this but when I dragged and dropped a file into the micro externalSD via USB it worked fine. No idling or freeze up. I stated it did this the first time I tested it but I may have done something different than I thought I did.
Four... while still using a different USB I went ahead and tried to create a folder and name it. It just hung there idling.
I guess my last resort is factory reset. I'd like to think it isn't the phone but maybe Windows 8.1 just not playing nicely with the Note 4. A lot of weird things have happened on 8.1 including my Bluetooth mouse not working anymore 4 days after I bought it. It stopped working after Windows pushed an update. Not really sure but I have noticed odd behaviors from 8.1.
I'll try factory reset tomorrow and report back. If its the same issue still then its got to be something with Windows.

OK so I finally got around to factory reset and tried again. Still having same issues. There must be some kind of syncing error with Windows 8.1 or something. I don't get how it will allow me to drop a file in (i.e. a song) without issues but it will not allow me to create a folder and name it.
Only way I can do this is by taking out the micro SD card and put it in the bigger card and then into the laptop.
It gets annoying doing it that way because of having to take the case off then back door then the card and then put everything back together again.

heXacode said:
OK so I finally got around to factory reset and tried again. Still having same issues. There must be some kind of syncing error with Windows 8.1 or something. I don't get how it will allow me to drop a file in (i.e. a song) without issues but it will not allow me to create a folder and name it.
Only way I can do this is by taking out the micro SD card and put it in the bigger card and then into the laptop.
It gets annoying doing it that way because of having to take the case off then back door then the card and then put everything back together again.
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Sorry reset didn't work. I agree, it might be Windows 8. I'm still on 7, so can't any further (if there is something that can be done).

heXacode said:
I'm the OP of this thread, lol. Anyways. Did a couple things to test out ideas.
One... Kies... I hate it. Sorry asjshenry. Thanks for the advice though.
Two... tried a different Samsung USB. Same issue.
Three... I may have done something wrong last time with this but when I dragged and dropped a file into the micro externalSD via USB it worked fine. No idling or freeze up. I stated it did this the first time I tested it but I may have done something different than I thought I did.
Four... while still using a different USB I went ahead and tried to create a folder and name it. It just hung there idling.
I guess my last resort is factory reset. I'd like to think it isn't the phone but maybe Windows 8.1 just not playing nicely with the Note 4. A lot of weird things have happened on 8.1 including my Bluetooth mouse not working anymore 4 days after I bought it. It stopped working after Windows pushed an update. Not really sure but I have noticed odd behaviors from 8.1.
I'll try factory reset tomorrow and report back. If its the same issue still then its got to be something with Windows.
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Windows 8.1 does this to my note 4 and S3, it's a Windows issue not your phone

floatingtrees said:
Windows 8.1 does this to my note 4 and S3, it's a Windows issue not your phone
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Have you figured out what is causing it?

heXacode said:
Have you figured out what is causing it?
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I have no idea, I avoid it by creating the folders on the computer and droping them on the SD card

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I have no idea, I avoid it by creating the folders on the computer and droping them on the SD card
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It must be a syncing issue then. I've been trying to track down similar issues but haven't found anything I was looking for. Have you noticed that the more 8.1 gets updated the more there are problems? I'll keep looking till I find what the issue is.

heXacode said:
It must be a syncing issue then. I've been trying to track down similar issues but haven't found anything I was looking for. Have you noticed that the more 8.1 gets updated the more there are problems? I'll keep looking till I find what the issue is.
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Additional updates haven't worsened or fixed the problem for me, also forgot to mention that the size of the card plays no effect on solving the issue I've tested it on a 32gb and a 128gb card. Let me know if you come up with a fix

floatingtrees said:
Additional updates haven't worsened or fixed the problem for me, also forgot to mention that the size of the card plays no effect on solving the issue I've tested it on a 32gb and a 128gb card. Let me know if you come up with a fix
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If you have 2 laptops or PC could you test this problem on a different one and see if the problem persist? I actually have 2 laptops but the screen on the older one got fried so I have no way or seeing if its a persisting problem.
I will also make some time tomorrow and see if I can speak to a geek squad rep or Microsoft rep online and see if they have any suggestions. I'll have to speak to them about other problems that I see coming up with each updates they push out too.
If I can't get anywhere with fixing all these problems then I will be converting the laptop fully to a Linux OS of my choice. I'm not liking anything at all with windows 8.1 and this laptop is barely a year old.
Also its interesting that you said you had the same issue with the S3. I have the S3 too here before I got the Note 4. I didn't see this problem with the S3 on this laptop and it has been awhile since I had the S3 hooked up to that laptop to transfer music over. That's what is leading me to think that an update broke stuff.
I'll update this tomorrow if I get anywhere.

heXacode said:
If you have 2 laptops or PC could you test this problem on a different one and see if the problem persist? I actually have 2 laptops but the screen on the older one got fried so I have no way or seeing if its a persisting problem.
I will also make some time tomorrow and see if I can speak to a geek squad rep or Microsoft rep online and see if they have any suggestions. I'll have to speak to them about other problems that I see coming up with each updates they push out too.
If I can't get anywhere with fixing all these problems then I will be converting the laptop fully to a Linux OS of my choice. I'm not liking anything at all with windows 8.1 and this laptop is barely a year old.
Also its interesting that you said you had the same issue with the S3. I have the S3 too here before I got the Note 4. I didn't see this problem with the S3 on this laptop and it has been awhile since I had the S3 hooked up to that laptop to transfer music over. That's what is leading me to think that an update broke stuff.
I'll update this tomorrow if I get anywhere.
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Sorry it took so long to reply, I took the 5.0.1 update recently and tried creating and renaming a folder on my note 4 using my windows 8.1 machine, I got the same result, folder was created but windows explorer hung and crashed during renaming the folder. I tried it again on my windows 7 machine and it successfully created and renamed the folder without any hiccups. also its worth to mention that i do not have usb debugging enabled, and every time I connect my phone to the windows 8.1 machine I get a usb connected sound and then a second later I get a usb disconnected sound and then the windows explorer window showing my phone and external SD

floatingtrees said:
Sorry it took so long to reply, I took the 5.0.1 update recently and tried creating and renaming a folder on my note 4 using my windows 8.1 machine, I got the same result, folder was created but windows explorer hung and crashed during renaming the folder. I tried it again on my windows 7 machine and it successfully created and renamed the folder without any hiccups. also its worth to mention that i do not have usb debugging enabled, and every time I connect my phone to the windows 8.1 machine I get a usb connected sound and then a second later I get a usb disconnected sound and then the windows explorer window showing my phone and external SD
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Thank you. That confirms my suspicion that it is within Windows 8.1. Debugging is not needed for anything.
I had to dig deep to figure out the problem,and according to an article some updates plus components become corrupted without our knowledge. Only way we know something is wrong is one thing after another stops working (i.e. my Bluetooth mouse, writing to external SD, etc).
There is a fix for it as long as it can complete it thoroughly. If not then a fresh install of 8.1 is your only last resort.
This is what I did from this link...
http://www.eightforums.com/3407-sfc-scannow-command-run-windows-8-a.html
Right click on command prompt to grant Administration rights. Click ok. Command prompt will open. Run this...
sfc /scannow
Wait for it to fully scan.
Mine said it couldn't fix all problems. I had to go to Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /Restore health link...
http://www.eightforums.com/26512-dism-fixing-component-store-corruption-windows-8-a-8.html
This will take awhile and look like its hung up at 20% but let it finish.
My results were...
Error: 0x800f0906
The source files could not be downloaded. Use the "source" option to specify the location of the files that are required to restore the feature. For more information on specifying a source location, see http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=243007
Had to go to that link and was lost on what to do. So I read through the forums for similar error code by others and the author recommended to do a refresh of Windows or do a complete reinstall of Windows to correct the problem and run sfc /scannow to confirm all is good after reinstallation.
This leads me to believe several updates became corrupted and a lack of a component store. I have no clue how that broke and it's all on Microsoft for that mess.
My last resort is now to reinstall a fresh copy of Windows 8.1 to correct all issues. It's going to be a pain in the are with all that stuff I have saved on the laptop and backing up everything.
Check out those links and run them to see if your stuff gets corrected. You may have better luck than I did and if you do then reboot after all that and test the external SD issue.

heXacode said:
Thank you. That confirms my suspicion that it is within Windows 8.1. Debugging is not needed for anything.
I had to dig deep to figure out the problem,and according to an article some updates plus components become corrupted without our knowledge. Only way we know something is wrong is one thing after another stops working (i.e. my Bluetooth mouse, writing to external SD, etc).
There is a fix for it as long as it can complete it thoroughly. If not then a fresh install of 8.1 is your only last resort.
This is what I did from this link...
http://www.eightforums.com/3407-sfc-scannow-command-run-windows-8-a.html
Right click on command prompt to grant Administration rights. Click ok. Command prompt will open. Run this...
sfc /scannow
Wait for it to fully scan.
Mine said it couldn't fix all problems. I had to go to Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /Restore health link...
http://www.eightforums.com/26512-dism-fixing-component-store-corruption-windows-8-a-8.html
This will take awhile and look like its hung up at 20% but let it finish.
My results were...
Error: 0x800f0906
The source files could not be downloaded. Use the "source" option to specify the location of the files that are required to restore the feature. For more information on specifying a source location, see http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=243007
Had to go to that link and was lost on what to do. So I read through the forums for similar error code by others and the author recommended to do a refresh of Windows or do a complete reinstall of Windows to correct the problem and run sfc /scannow to confirm all is good after reinstallation.
This leads me to believe several updates became corrupted and a lack of a component store. I have no clue how that broke and it's all on Microsoft for that mess.
My last resort is now to reinstall a fresh copy of Windows 8.1 to correct all issues. It's going to be a pain in the are with all that stuff I have saved on the laptop and backing up everything.
Check out those links and run them to see if your stuff gets corrected. You may have better luck than I did and if you do then reboot after all that and test the external SD issue.
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I ran sfc /scannow and it failed verification and didn't fix anything, so then i ran dism as you said however I used a bat file I had instead, and it fixed whatever sfc was complaining about. If you want to try it copy this into a notepad and save it as a .bat file and run as admin
Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup
pause
Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth
pause
SFC /scannow
pause
since sfc passed I ran windows update and took all the important and optional updates, restarted and ran sfc again and it passed again. I plugged in my phone and created a folder and tried to rename it and as always explorer hangs again, and crashes, without unplugging my phone I go back to where I created the folder and tried to rename it and it works, problem is if you unplug, explorer will hang and crash first every time before working, also this method doesn't always work, for example sometimes external sd disappears from the list, other times when you click on it, it brings you into phone sd instead of external, and lastly another bug I've noticed is that the language changes after a crash on the list of available memory, there were a couple of instances where everything was replaced with Chinese or Japanese characters. I hope this was helpful but I doubt this problem could be fixed, unless windows 10 fixes it we're going to have to deal with it