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Was ( and still am) curious why Google choose MTP over MassStorage. The other member (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1023153) did some tests with interesting results. Can confirm that got similar results for MTP's favour ( transfered same video,music,pdf files to GN and HTC Sensation).
I don't think that was the only reason for Googles decision.
Also find out one very annoying experience with MTP : you can't edit file on phone memory. It has to be transfered to PC, modified and put back to phone...
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Was ( and still am) curious why Google choose MTP over MassStorage. The other member (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1023153) did some tests with interesting results. Can confirm that got similar results for MTP's favour ( transfered same video,music,pdf files to GN and HTC Sensation).
I don't think that was the only reason for Googles decision.
Also find out one very annoying experience with MTP : you can't edit file on phone memory. It has to be transfered to PC, modified and put back to phone...
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It allows them to lump all of the internal storage together since MTP doesn't require the partition be unmounted with the phone.
Many people have phones that were partitioned poorly (N1, Vibrant, etc...) and after you install some apps you get an error that you've filled up your space (even though your phone still has 10GB free).
They hacked around it by doing Apps2SD, but even then, it wasn't perfect.
This new method allows them to utilize the full 16/32GB of storage however you want without any additional requirements from the user.
For most people that just want to copy their pictures off the phone, MTP is a lot smoother. It 'just works' and let's them get by with their day.
Unfortunately, the new way isn't perfect. I use Ubuntu for example and am having a hell of a time getting it to work. I eventually just gave up and installed a Samba File server instead.
Does anyone else have problems with folders not appearing or with errors when transferring files, or is it because I'm using a Mac and Android File Transfer software?
@tjhart85, you can get mtp working but you just need to compile the latest libmtp from source, libmtp that's included in the ubuntu repos is an older version.
i think I'm the minority here in that I actually like MTP.
The fact that I can unplug the phone, and it's ready to go is worth it. I hated the media scanning tool from gingerbread and before. Now the phone is ready to go when I unplug.
It lets the entire phone be one partition, so there are no annoying issues with multiple partitions for system, apps, etc.. It also lets the phone be used while its connected and transferring to/from the device. Also, no more mounting/unmounting and waiting for the device to be available.
It overall just removes headaches associated with files not being able to be accessed properly because they're on a different partition or on the SDcard (such as no widget support from apps installed on SDcard).
I also don't get the big deal over MTP and actually prefer it. I have a mac and haven't run into any problems. The file transferring didn't seem any slower and if anything seemed faster so I don't really get why everyone seemed to freak out when it was originally revealed.
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This explains it - from the horse's mouth itself.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...behind-galaxy-nexus-lack-of-usb-mass-storage/
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This explains it - from the horse's mouth itself.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...behind-galaxy-nexus-lack-of-usb-mass-storage/
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Great read. Thanks. I don't know why they're so against file managers, though.
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Unfortunately, the new way isn't perfect. I use Ubuntu for example and am having a hell of a time getting it to work. I eventually just gave up and installed a Samba File server instead.
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I haven't tried this, but it does look promising:
http://collectskin.com/adbfs/
It sure sounds better than setting up a samba server, and since it's based on adb it can be made to run over wifi (although I'm not sure that is recommended).
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Does anyone else have problems with folders not appearing or with errors when transferring files, or is it because I'm using a Mac and Android File Transfer software?
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It seems not all folders are appearing over MTP.
For instance my TitaniumBackup folder stored in /sdcard does not show at all and I'm not sure why. It might be because the folder contains no files the phone can work with? I honestly have no idea.
This was on Windows. Not Linux or Mac. So it seems to be a MTP-issue, not a platform-issue.
I had to adb shell in, create a tar of that and then adb pull it out to get it.
So yeah. MTP has its flaws. Hence me working on a workaround:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1423392
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Also find out one very annoying experience with MTP : you can't edit file on phone memory. It has to be transfered to PC, modified and put back to phone...
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If I were to nitpick I would have to say that technically speaking that was always true, but yeah, now you actually have to manage that transfer manually and that sucks.
But you can use the memory on the phone while transferring from pc!
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I also don't get the big deal over MTP and actually prefer it. I have a mac and haven't run into any problems. The file transferring didn't seem any slower and if anything seemed faster ...
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can I ask what exactly happens when you plug into a MAC? Eg, do you have to launch ATP, does it appear in Finder, does it launch iPhoto automatically? I'm just trying to get a picture & short of taking my MAC into town ... has anyone YT'd this?
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MTP also solves the 4GB file size limit. With USB mass storage all phones have FAT32 for their data partition in order to be compatible with most computer, but that means 4GB file limit.
With MTP the file system isn't visible for the computer, so the phones will use a good filesystem like EXT4 also for the data partition.
OK, so I fell victim to the JB bootloop/failure to restore a nandroid in CWM/failure to install any rom in cwm without a bootloop. From what I've gathered, the only fix for my soft-brick is to return to stock, which of course deletes /data/media. I've tried to back it up with root toolkit, but did not get everything on the VSD. I've tried pulling everything from it using ADB...same result. Yet, adb shell ls /data/media/ shows it's all there. Can anyone tell me how I can download the entire contents, or fix the bootloop problem (preferred)? I'm under the gun here, as I need my phone for work tomorrow, yet don't want to lose all of my stuff. Please halp!
Try pull folders I.e. Dcim folder instead of the whole camera folder. If all else fails try individual files
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I tried pulling the missing individual folders and it didn't work. All I can figure is that it has something to do with the syntax of the file/folder names, similar to the 8.3 issues between windows and dos, of many years ago.
Thank you, though, for your reply!
Have you tried reinstalling adb drivers. I think the downfall of no external sdcard is what you see here. That's why I always sync pics with google+. Food for thought.
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Yeah, I have. No luck.
Had to reactivate my TB...what a hassle. Hopefully, someone can come up with a fix for this. Should have done a lot more research before I flashed JB. I usually do, but I've become a bit complacent, because I've never had anything like this happen to me. Lesson learned. I just hope I can fix this without losing everything. Written a lot of excerpts for what, some day, will be my novel. F!
Can anyone, at least, point me in the right direction? I'm getting so frustrated. I know the dev forums are the place to get answers, but I also know I can't post this sort of question there, without getting deleted or, worse, chastised.
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Can anyone, at least, point me in the right direction? I'm getting so frustrated. I know the dev forums are the place to get answers, but I also know I can't post this sort of question there, without getting deleted or, worse, chastised.
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What command are you using?
adb pull /sdcard/
should pull everything. However (from personal experience) it won't work if you have files with weird characters in the filename.
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efrant said:
What command are you using?
adb pull /sdcard/
should pull everything. However (from personal experience) it won't work if you have files with weird characters in the filename.
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No, adb pull /data/media/ From what I understand, that's where the virtual SD is.
So, I've been able to pull specific files and folders using adb, but I can't get certain folders that contain spaces in the names. Is there a special character to replace the space? If not, is there a way to rename said folders, in shell, so I can pull them?
Hey,
I went back to 4.1.2 (JellyBam) after using 4.2.1 (PA ROM). But there's a 0 folder inside my internal memory folder which leads to all my real files (music, pics etc etc).
So it's like.
-sdcard0
.....-0 (Folder)
..........-DCIM
..........-Downloads
..........-Music
..........-Titanium Backup
..........-etc etc etc
.....+'Music' which is empty
.....+'Downloads' which is empty
.....+etc etc etc
I searched on XDA, but the only solutions I found were:
1. copy every file to my computer, delete the 0 file (or not) and then put the copied files from my computer onto my phone. But there was no progress in the copying process as it was freezing.
2. Format everything, recovery, and some other things I didn't understand.
So I came here asking for help. Hopefully someone knows any other answer.
P.S. I know I can just chance the location of my backed-up files from TB, so there's no problem in that case.
But it is just annoying and sometimes it confuses me.
Thanks in advance :good:
I'm thinking of the same I'm not digging 4.2.1 that much.
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I believe in 4.2 the /0 folder is the new location for the pseudo SD card instead of under /storage/
That's 4.2+ file structure to support multiuser and mentioned in dozens of threads. Just learn to live with it. Google knows what they're doing.
Meh well that's gonna be 4.2.1 for me...this is way too annoying with the files and folders
Rapydax said:
Meh well that's gonna be 4.2.1 for me...this is way too annoying with the files and folders
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how is it annoying? you dont see really anything different other than going 1 more folder deeper.
Zepius said:
how is it annoying? you dont see really anything different other than going 1 more folder deeper.
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Because change is bad obviously. Especially when it adds features.
Zepius said:
how is it annoying? you dont see really anything different other than going 1 more folder deeper.
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I went back to CM10 (4.1.2) from CM10.1 (4.2.1) and just found it easiest to backup all my files and format the storage. Windows wasnt seeing the storage correctly until after I did that.
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I went back to CM10 (4.1.2) from CM10.1 (4.2.1) and just found it easiest to backup all my files and format the storage. Windows wasnt seeing the storage correctly until after I did that.
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How'd you do this? I'm curious to try the cm10.
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What recovery are you using?
The issue is with resets and CWM recovery. The problem is your app back ups get covered under 0,0,0 and can't be restored, music apps can't see music, gallery can't see pics etc.
Switch to TWRP Open Recovery and the 0 problem goes away.
Best way to get your SD back in line is to use your PC to move everything back up where it should be. Hope this helps, freaked me out when I thought I lost my SD.
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I think some of you aren't understanding the OP's question. He doesn't dislike the /0 file structure (or maybe he does, but I don't think that's the point he's making), he just doesn't want to keep it when downgrading to 4.1.2. That's perfectly understandable to me, and actually something I've been thinking about for a couple weeks.
OP- You have a few options. I think the simplest is to go ahead and flash a 4.1.2 ROM, then use a file explorer on the phone to cut from the /0 directory and paste straight into the main sdcard directory. Option 2 is to use a PC and cut and paste the same thing, but I don't know how quick it would be. Another possibility is to copy everything off your phone onto your PC, then format the storage on your phone, then copy everything from the PC back to /sdcard/. This is probably the cleanest and safest option, but also slowest. I'm sure there is also a way to do it with ADB, where you cut and paste from /0 to /sdcard/, but I'm no good with ADB so somebody else would have to give you the commands. ADB is most likely going to be the fastest method as far as file copy progress, but that's only a guess. I'm sure there are several other options I'm not aware of, but those are the ones I've thought of while thinking of doing this on my phone.
Good luck! Let me know which works for you and how it works........
I went back to a 4.1 ROM at one point and it did not immediately move everything back where it could be seen even with the latest recovery. I found that the easiest fix was to plug the phone into my computer right after the first boot and then move the data to the right folders with adb. Very quick and painless. TWRP does the fix going from 4.1 to 4.2 very nicely.
Downgrading to 4.1.2 from 4.2.1
I'm downgrading because I'm have a ton of blue tooth issues. I'm currently backing up my SD to my laptop then from win explorer I'll copy everything from /0 to the top SD directory. It's not any fun at all.
I wonder how many people will actually use the multiple users on their phone/tablet?
\m/
:cyclops:
Tablet - maybe
Phone - probably not
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Hi. I just switched from 1 custom 4.3 rom to a different one and i did a factory reset. However once i rebooted, i noticed that all my internal SD content had gone into 0/0/0/0 etc. i kept clicking but eventually file explorer on widows just froze.
I went into ES file explorer on my phone and saw the content was behind 400 0's!!!!
Anyone have any idea what i could do to recover that info? every time i try copying the files ES explorer either crashes or says that it had copied the files when it hadnt.
Any help would be greatly apreciated. I'm at my wits end... :crying:
Thanks
Bro you need to use a file explorer from recovery. TWRP custom recovery has a built-in file explorer. That should do the trick
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aussie88 said:
Hi. I just switched from 1 custom 4.3 rom to a different one and i did a factory reset. However once i rebooted, i noticed that all my internal SD content had gone into 0/0/0/0 etc. i kept clicking but eventually file explorer on widows just froze.
I went into ES file explorer on my phone and saw the content was behind 400 0's!!!!
Anyone have any idea what i could do to recover that info? every time i try copying the files ES explorer either crashes or says that it had copied the files when it hadnt.
Any help would be greatly apreciated. I'm at my wits end... :crying:
Thanks
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Also, you should update your recovery as the more recent versions have fixed that problem. It doesn't happen each time you flash with the new versions.
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Also, you should update your recovery as the more recent versions have fixed that problem. It doesn't happen each time you flash with the new versions.
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Yep I figured that out the hard way lol. Already upgraded to the latest version of CWM to prevent it from happening anymore. Now to get the files out from down there... :banghead:
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On Windoz, You could troll and copy out every 10 deep or 20 deep back to surface and then continue. That'd be better than crashing Explorer.
Dos Prompt is more rugged. You could write a batch script there.
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On Windoz, You could troll and copy out every 10 deep or 20 deep back to surface and then continue. That'd be better than crashing Explorer.
Dos Prompt is more rugged. You could write a batch script there.
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I saw that somewhere and tried that. Doesnt seem to be having any effect. Unless im doing it wrong...
I'm plugging my phone into my computer, accessing the phone section when it comes up, going about 20 0s deep and copying it back to the root. It either crashes my windows explorer, or doesnt seem to be doing anything(i think because its already disconnected itself. i tried making a new folder and it wouldn't let). what am i doing wrong?
PS. how would i access my phones internal SD from DOS?
thanks
Try ADB FileExplorer that should not time out on Windows. I have also tried Android File Manager with success. If that does not work, I will look up other options.
Well i tried android file manager. Im not 100% sure exactly how these programs work, but either way its saying i dont have root access. I do and i also have chainfires adbd insecure app which should give me full root access, but its still not working.
I looked at ADB FileExplorer too, but i didnt really get it and it kept saying it couldnt find my phone and something about an incorrect path.
With the Android File Manager, when it accesses the Phone over ADB, it will ask for Root once. If you don't click SuperSU warning in that time, the File Manager will give this error. Please read its thread carefully. I have connected over ADBWIRELESS and this just fine.
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With the Android File Manager, when it accesses the Phone over ADB, it will ask for Root once. If you don't click SuperSU warning in that time, the File Manager will give this error. Please read its thread carefully. I have connected over ADBWIRELESS and this just fine.
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It never asked for root on my phone. I've tried all the changes and everything else that people have recommended, but im still not having any luck. I guess im too much of a noob for all this lol :crying:
Try Re-mounting internal SD in Recovery and then connect to PC.
nope, still no luck. Its still saying no root and no supersu request is coming up. I guess im missing something....
EDIT: I seem to somehow be "losing" root every time i try to connect to the android file manager. i open an app that requires root and it says i dont have root. I have to reboot my phone to get root to work again. It's weird though, because SuperSU opens fine...
open the last "zero" folder on your computer, drag everything into a folder on your computer desktop, let everything copy (do something else in the mean time), delete your phone memory, copy everything back to your cleared phone memory card
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open the last "zero" folder on your computer, drag everything into a folder on your computer desktop, let everything copy (do something else in the mean time), delete your phone memory, copy everything back to your cleared phone memory card
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If only it was that easy. its behind 400 nested folders. Windows cant go that deep. it freezes and FC's after about 200.
Im giving my phone in to get my power button repaired, so i guess ill ask the software tech there if he can figure it out. But thank you Perseus for all your help last night. :good:
I also have this problem guys, how do i update my custom recovery please?
I'm having issues that I cannot be sure if its affected by Googles dropped support of writing to externalSD or not.
When I hook my phone up to the laptop via USB I do this to transfer music to the micro externalSD, which is 64GB card, into my Music folder. The first thing I do is make a new folder on it to label the folder by band name. When I do that it just sits there idling and won't change names from New Folder to a band name folder. Same thing happened when I tested another way by just dropping a music file on it. It just acts busy and never processes the transfer.
The only way I've gotten it to work was taking the micro externalSD card out of the slot of the phone and putting it into the bigger card then insert it into the laptop and do my work that way. It works that way but I can't tell if its that KitKat issue that's affecting it or its something else.
Has anybody been transferring files via USB or doing what I do?
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I'm having issues that I cannot be sure if its affected by Googles dropped support of writing to externalSD or not.
When I hook my phone up to the laptop via USB I do this to transfer music to the micro externalSD, which is 64GB card, into my Music folder. The first thing I do is make a new folder on it to label the folder by band name. When I do that it just sits there idling and won't change names from New Folder to a band name folder. Same thing happened when I tested another way by just dropping a music file on it. It just acts busy and never processes the transfer.
The only way I've gotten it to work was taking the micro externalSD card out of the slot of the phone and putting it into the bigger card then insert it into the laptop and do my work that way. It works that way but I can't tell if its that KitKat issue that's affecting it or its something else.
Has anybody been transferring files via USB or doing what I do?
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If you use the Samsung Kies application, it works. At least it works for me using Kies. Haven't tried just using the file explorer.
The external SD restriction is only from within the OS itself. It only affects third-party file managers (or any app trying to modify files on the external sd). Doing anything on a computer should work. Something is wrong with your phone.
I've had this happen when my devices' OS gets messed up. Factory reset (or reflash when I was using custom roms) usually fixes it. I don't know the details, but something with the way the phone presents its storage to the computer gets messed up.
I only hit the idle if my phone screen is off, if I keep it awake it writes like a charm
thanitos said:
I only hit the idle if my phone screen is off, if I keep it awake it writes like a charm
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Yeah and file transfers will slow to 0kb/s and eventually (after a long time of waiting) the computer will say something about the device not being found. Right?
This is what I was saying. As long as you aren't running a custom rom (which you can't on the n910a), then a factory reset SHOULD fix it.
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Yeah and file transfers will slow to 0kb/s and eventually (after a long time of waiting) the computer will say something about the device not being found. Right?
This is what I was saying. As long as you aren't running a custom rom (which you can't on the n910a), then a factory reset SHOULD fix it.
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Yeah, I just keep my phone awake though, not really interested in factory reset, lol, maybe the op will though, I just don't transfer enough stuff
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Yeah, I just keep my phone awake though, not really interested in factory reset, lol, maybe the op will though, I just don't transfer enough stuff
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Sorry, thought you WERE the OP. Lol
Didn't realize you were a different person.
If it works for you then do what you're doing. If it gets worse or something, try my suggestion though. It should fix it, but yeah, factory resets can be annoying.
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Sorry, thought you WERE the OP. Lol
Didn't realize you were a different person.
If it works for you then do what you're doing. If it gets worse or something, try my suggestion though. It should fix it, but yeah, factory resets can be annoying.
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Yeah titanium backup would make it a bit nicer, an icloud style backup would be a godsend
I'm the OP of this thread, lol. Anyways. Did a couple things to test out ideas.
One... Kies... I hate it. Sorry asjshenry. Thanks for the advice though.
Two... tried a different Samsung USB. Same issue.
Three... I may have done something wrong last time with this but when I dragged and dropped a file into the micro externalSD via USB it worked fine. No idling or freeze up. I stated it did this the first time I tested it but I may have done something different than I thought I did.
Four... while still using a different USB I went ahead and tried to create a folder and name it. It just hung there idling.
I guess my last resort is factory reset. I'd like to think it isn't the phone but maybe Windows 8.1 just not playing nicely with the Note 4. A lot of weird things have happened on 8.1 including my Bluetooth mouse not working anymore 4 days after I bought it. It stopped working after Windows pushed an update. Not really sure but I have noticed odd behaviors from 8.1.
I'll try factory reset tomorrow and report back. If its the same issue still then its got to be something with Windows.
OK so I finally got around to factory reset and tried again. Still having same issues. There must be some kind of syncing error with Windows 8.1 or something. I don't get how it will allow me to drop a file in (i.e. a song) without issues but it will not allow me to create a folder and name it.
Only way I can do this is by taking out the micro SD card and put it in the bigger card and then into the laptop.
It gets annoying doing it that way because of having to take the case off then back door then the card and then put everything back together again.
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OK so I finally got around to factory reset and tried again. Still having same issues. There must be some kind of syncing error with Windows 8.1 or something. I don't get how it will allow me to drop a file in (i.e. a song) without issues but it will not allow me to create a folder and name it.
Only way I can do this is by taking out the micro SD card and put it in the bigger card and then into the laptop.
It gets annoying doing it that way because of having to take the case off then back door then the card and then put everything back together again.
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Sorry reset didn't work. I agree, it might be Windows 8. I'm still on 7, so can't any further (if there is something that can be done).
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I'm the OP of this thread, lol. Anyways. Did a couple things to test out ideas.
One... Kies... I hate it. Sorry asjshenry. Thanks for the advice though.
Two... tried a different Samsung USB. Same issue.
Three... I may have done something wrong last time with this but when I dragged and dropped a file into the micro externalSD via USB it worked fine. No idling or freeze up. I stated it did this the first time I tested it but I may have done something different than I thought I did.
Four... while still using a different USB I went ahead and tried to create a folder and name it. It just hung there idling.
I guess my last resort is factory reset. I'd like to think it isn't the phone but maybe Windows 8.1 just not playing nicely with the Note 4. A lot of weird things have happened on 8.1 including my Bluetooth mouse not working anymore 4 days after I bought it. It stopped working after Windows pushed an update. Not really sure but I have noticed odd behaviors from 8.1.
I'll try factory reset tomorrow and report back. If its the same issue still then its got to be something with Windows.
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Windows 8.1 does this to my note 4 and S3, it's a Windows issue not your phone
floatingtrees said:
Windows 8.1 does this to my note 4 and S3, it's a Windows issue not your phone
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Have you figured out what is causing it?
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Have you figured out what is causing it?
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I have no idea, I avoid it by creating the folders on the computer and droping them on the SD card
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I have no idea, I avoid it by creating the folders on the computer and droping them on the SD card
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It must be a syncing issue then. I've been trying to track down similar issues but haven't found anything I was looking for. Have you noticed that the more 8.1 gets updated the more there are problems? I'll keep looking till I find what the issue is.
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It must be a syncing issue then. I've been trying to track down similar issues but haven't found anything I was looking for. Have you noticed that the more 8.1 gets updated the more there are problems? I'll keep looking till I find what the issue is.
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Additional updates haven't worsened or fixed the problem for me, also forgot to mention that the size of the card plays no effect on solving the issue I've tested it on a 32gb and a 128gb card. Let me know if you come up with a fix
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Additional updates haven't worsened or fixed the problem for me, also forgot to mention that the size of the card plays no effect on solving the issue I've tested it on a 32gb and a 128gb card. Let me know if you come up with a fix
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If you have 2 laptops or PC could you test this problem on a different one and see if the problem persist? I actually have 2 laptops but the screen on the older one got fried so I have no way or seeing if its a persisting problem.
I will also make some time tomorrow and see if I can speak to a geek squad rep or Microsoft rep online and see if they have any suggestions. I'll have to speak to them about other problems that I see coming up with each updates they push out too.
If I can't get anywhere with fixing all these problems then I will be converting the laptop fully to a Linux OS of my choice. I'm not liking anything at all with windows 8.1 and this laptop is barely a year old.
Also its interesting that you said you had the same issue with the S3. I have the S3 too here before I got the Note 4. I didn't see this problem with the S3 on this laptop and it has been awhile since I had the S3 hooked up to that laptop to transfer music over. That's what is leading me to think that an update broke stuff.
I'll update this tomorrow if I get anywhere.
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If you have 2 laptops or PC could you test this problem on a different one and see if the problem persist? I actually have 2 laptops but the screen on the older one got fried so I have no way or seeing if its a persisting problem.
I will also make some time tomorrow and see if I can speak to a geek squad rep or Microsoft rep online and see if they have any suggestions. I'll have to speak to them about other problems that I see coming up with each updates they push out too.
If I can't get anywhere with fixing all these problems then I will be converting the laptop fully to a Linux OS of my choice. I'm not liking anything at all with windows 8.1 and this laptop is barely a year old.
Also its interesting that you said you had the same issue with the S3. I have the S3 too here before I got the Note 4. I didn't see this problem with the S3 on this laptop and it has been awhile since I had the S3 hooked up to that laptop to transfer music over. That's what is leading me to think that an update broke stuff.
I'll update this tomorrow if I get anywhere.
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Sorry it took so long to reply, I took the 5.0.1 update recently and tried creating and renaming a folder on my note 4 using my windows 8.1 machine, I got the same result, folder was created but windows explorer hung and crashed during renaming the folder. I tried it again on my windows 7 machine and it successfully created and renamed the folder without any hiccups. also its worth to mention that i do not have usb debugging enabled, and every time I connect my phone to the windows 8.1 machine I get a usb connected sound and then a second later I get a usb disconnected sound and then the windows explorer window showing my phone and external SD
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Sorry it took so long to reply, I took the 5.0.1 update recently and tried creating and renaming a folder on my note 4 using my windows 8.1 machine, I got the same result, folder was created but windows explorer hung and crashed during renaming the folder. I tried it again on my windows 7 machine and it successfully created and renamed the folder without any hiccups. also its worth to mention that i do not have usb debugging enabled, and every time I connect my phone to the windows 8.1 machine I get a usb connected sound and then a second later I get a usb disconnected sound and then the windows explorer window showing my phone and external SD
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Thank you. That confirms my suspicion that it is within Windows 8.1. Debugging is not needed for anything.
I had to dig deep to figure out the problem,and according to an article some updates plus components become corrupted without our knowledge. Only way we know something is wrong is one thing after another stops working (i.e. my Bluetooth mouse, writing to external SD, etc).
There is a fix for it as long as it can complete it thoroughly. If not then a fresh install of 8.1 is your only last resort.
This is what I did from this link...
http://www.eightforums.com/3407-sfc-scannow-command-run-windows-8-a.html
Right click on command prompt to grant Administration rights. Click ok. Command prompt will open. Run this...
sfc /scannow
Wait for it to fully scan.
Mine said it couldn't fix all problems. I had to go to Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /Restore health link...
http://www.eightforums.com/26512-dism-fixing-component-store-corruption-windows-8-a-8.html
This will take awhile and look like its hung up at 20% but let it finish.
My results were...
Error: 0x800f0906
The source files could not be downloaded. Use the "source" option to specify the location of the files that are required to restore the feature. For more information on specifying a source location, see http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=243007
Had to go to that link and was lost on what to do. So I read through the forums for similar error code by others and the author recommended to do a refresh of Windows or do a complete reinstall of Windows to correct the problem and run sfc /scannow to confirm all is good after reinstallation.
This leads me to believe several updates became corrupted and a lack of a component store. I have no clue how that broke and it's all on Microsoft for that mess.
My last resort is now to reinstall a fresh copy of Windows 8.1 to correct all issues. It's going to be a pain in the are with all that stuff I have saved on the laptop and backing up everything.
Check out those links and run them to see if your stuff gets corrected. You may have better luck than I did and if you do then reboot after all that and test the external SD issue.
heXacode said:
Thank you. That confirms my suspicion that it is within Windows 8.1. Debugging is not needed for anything.
I had to dig deep to figure out the problem,and according to an article some updates plus components become corrupted without our knowledge. Only way we know something is wrong is one thing after another stops working (i.e. my Bluetooth mouse, writing to external SD, etc).
There is a fix for it as long as it can complete it thoroughly. If not then a fresh install of 8.1 is your only last resort.
This is what I did from this link...
http://www.eightforums.com/3407-sfc-scannow-command-run-windows-8-a.html
Right click on command prompt to grant Administration rights. Click ok. Command prompt will open. Run this...
sfc /scannow
Wait for it to fully scan.
Mine said it couldn't fix all problems. I had to go to Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /Restore health link...
http://www.eightforums.com/26512-dism-fixing-component-store-corruption-windows-8-a-8.html
This will take awhile and look like its hung up at 20% but let it finish.
My results were...
Error: 0x800f0906
The source files could not be downloaded. Use the "source" option to specify the location of the files that are required to restore the feature. For more information on specifying a source location, see http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=243007
Had to go to that link and was lost on what to do. So I read through the forums for similar error code by others and the author recommended to do a refresh of Windows or do a complete reinstall of Windows to correct the problem and run sfc /scannow to confirm all is good after reinstallation.
This leads me to believe several updates became corrupted and a lack of a component store. I have no clue how that broke and it's all on Microsoft for that mess.
My last resort is now to reinstall a fresh copy of Windows 8.1 to correct all issues. It's going to be a pain in the are with all that stuff I have saved on the laptop and backing up everything.
Check out those links and run them to see if your stuff gets corrected. You may have better luck than I did and if you do then reboot after all that and test the external SD issue.
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I ran sfc /scannow and it failed verification and didn't fix anything, so then i ran dism as you said however I used a bat file I had instead, and it fixed whatever sfc was complaining about. If you want to try it copy this into a notepad and save it as a .bat file and run as admin
Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup
pause
Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth
pause
SFC /scannow
pause
since sfc passed I ran windows update and took all the important and optional updates, restarted and ran sfc again and it passed again. I plugged in my phone and created a folder and tried to rename it and as always explorer hangs again, and crashes, without unplugging my phone I go back to where I created the folder and tried to rename it and it works, problem is if you unplug, explorer will hang and crash first every time before working, also this method doesn't always work, for example sometimes external sd disappears from the list, other times when you click on it, it brings you into phone sd instead of external, and lastly another bug I've noticed is that the language changes after a crash on the list of available memory, there were a couple of instances where everything was replaced with Chinese or Japanese characters. I hope this was helpful but I doubt this problem could be fixed, unless windows 10 fixes it we're going to have to deal with it