Firstly I love this phone. After working through 4 Samsung Galaxy S's to finally ask to be switched away from it to this, I was very happy.
This phone is rock solid.
BUT. I have a problem. I like to use maps or nav in my car. I have the phone plugged in but after the timeout period the screen goes dim. I'm normally OK with that but the dim setting on this phone seems to be ridiculously dark!
To your knowledge, without rooting it to get the Cyanogen settings, is there a way to brighten the dimmed level of brightness?
I have tried disabling the auto-brightness and bumping it up but still after the timeout period it dims very dark.
How about a toggle or widget to keep the screen always on? There are quite a few available I reckon. I know its one extra step to carry out whereas you are looking for something more automated. Maybe there is an app that can let you make a list of apps that enable screen always on?... Not sure about that but worth a look eh?
i do use a switch with Extended Controls widget.
the problem isnt that it dimms, it's that when it does dim it is far too dark.
When the samsung went to the dim setting it was still viewable.
If i remember right when i had it plugged in it would not dim if i was viewing maps.
anyways, the phone as it is is useless when it dims. i can touch the screen to bring back the brightness. I can set the timeout period to 30 minutes, but all of this requires that i re-activate the screen to bring it back.
i guess i am seeing one more reason to root the device. i'm nervous about rooting and would prefer to not have to if i dont need to.
groaner said:
Firstly I love this phone. After working through 4 Samsung Galaxy S's to finally ask to be switched away from it to this, I was very happy.
This phone is rock solid.
BUT. I have a problem. I like to use maps or nav in my car. I have the phone plugged in but after the timeout period the screen goes dim. I'm normally OK with that but the dim setting on this phone seems to be ridiculously dark!
To your knowledge, without rooting it to get the Cyanogen settings, is there a way to brighten the dimmed level of brightness?
I have tried disabling the auto-brightness and bumping it up but still after the timeout period it dims very dark.
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This is a characteristic of the software that you are using. The software needs to establish a WAKE LOCK in order to keep the screen bright. If it isn't working, then there is something wrong with the software you are using. I suggest using COPILOT for navigation. It works properly.
dhkr123 said:
This is a characteristic of the software that you are using. The software needs to establish a WAKE LOCK in order to keep the screen bright. If it isn't working, then there is something wrong with the software you are using. I suggest using COPILOT for navigation. It works properly.
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agreed, the software is probably working properly. google navigation does not time out. google maps does and they dont give you an option to have it not time out when plugged in. silly if you ask me.
i dont mind that as much as i mind how much it dims.
Does anyone else find that the desire z dims too dark?
anyways, i may be beating a dead horse here. trying to get blood from a stone and all that.
well if anyone has any other ideas that would be helpful. thanks for the suggestions thus far.
I was wondering if someone has noticed similar behavior on their G3. My G3 is 100% stock and is only a week old. Wherever I wake up my device, about 5 seconds after turning it the screen has a small flicker and the screen seems to auto adjust or calibrate. This only happens once every time I wake up the device. My auto-brightness is set to off and the screen is at 100% brightness. I did some tests and noticed that when I wake up the device with the top sensors covered (proximity, front camera etc), that the screen doesn't have this flick to it. Is there some sort of "outdoor" mode or something on these where the screen will self calibrate when it notices it's in a bright situation?
Please test on your devices and let me know if you see anything similar to this. I tried taking a video but it's so quick and subtle that the video doesn't show it.
mine does same. vzw. covered sensors, still brightness adjustment.
only just now noticed today, but could have been happening all along.
I think it has something do with the proximity sensor. If you cover the sensor with a note pad you cannot turn on the screen, prob a tap to wake feature so it doesn't turn on in your pocket. But if you lift the note pad just enough to turn the screen on and quickly cover it, mine does not flick. I have tried this many times and worked 100% of the times.
My friend who works for at said that his does the same as well as the demo. Must be a weird firmware issue. Hopefully its resolved in the next ota
How many times are you gonna make this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/help/screen-flicker-t2826882
So I've finally had the chance to play with one of these watches extensively, and I am baffled by ambient mode.
It's not that it still turns off sometimes; that makes perfect sense. What's wrong with it is that it doesn't actually update even when the screen is on.
Test it yourself. Use the default watch face, enable ambient mode, and go in a completely dark room. You can leave the watch still or move it about, just don't let it act as if you're raising your arm and brighten the display.
Watch it for two or three minutes, and you'll notice that even though the screen remains on, it never updates -- the minute hand never moves, and so it doesn't actually show the right time very quickly after it dims. (This is with the official, default watch face, a just-rest watch, the latest firmware installed, and plenty of battery remaining.)
When the screen turns on from a raise or tap in ambient mode, you can actually see the minute hand jump forward several minutes in one go. Even with ambient mode disabled, the watch still turns on automatically with the raise gesture, and it takes no longer to do so than it does in ambient mode.
That implies there is no reason to use it other than vanity. After all, in the brief time before the backlight comes on the watch shows the wrong time, and it doesn't actually show the right time any faster than it would have.
But it's not really a vanity mode either, because except in a very dark place, the dimmed screen is indistinguishable from a powered off one to those standing near you. So you're wasting power, but still look like you have a blank screen on your wrist.
So what, precisely, is the point? It seems to me to add no benefit, just to waste battery. I'm baffled.
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I played with Ambient Mode a little before the recent update, but battery life just wasn't sufficient to keep it on. After the update, battery life improved enough for Ambient Mode, so I switched it on. I dealt with it a couple days, then ultimately turned it off for this very reason. It just seemed clunky to me, and as you stated, I'd often glance at my wrist only to see the wrong time until suddenly the watch came fully on and updated.
I was excited for Ambient mode, but like you, I no longer see the point. I'd rather just have a user-controllable setting for "fully on" sensitivity. If I could make my 360 just a little more sensitive to my raising my wrist action, it'd be perfect without Ambient Mode.
I wish I could have the screen on all the time in some cases.. like if you go to someplace classy, i would have the face on all the time displaying the watch face. Thats just me.
I've seen the screen update while it was dim. I do think that it is too dim to use outside like you mentioned.
I noticed this as well. Surely just a bug or an issue with android wear that will be fixed at some point. I'm also sure they will provide a lot more features to regulate screen controls, on, off, brightness, etc in future updates. It's just a matter of time.
I look at it this way... the sensor is kind of future proof if anything. Might not be very useful now, but could have a lot of potential in the next few months or once custom ROM's start rolling out.
Android wear is still in the early stages. It can only get better. Just be patient, we are early adopters on first generation hardware.
tlxxxsracer said:
I wish I could have the screen on all the time in some cases.. like if you go to someplace classy, i would have the face on all the time displaying the watch face. Thats just me.
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Here is a way you can set the screen on all the time:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55311726
knoxploration said:
So I've finally had the chance to play with one of these watches extensively, and I am baffled by ambient mode.
It's not that it still turns off sometimes; that makes perfect sense. What's wrong with it is that it doesn't actually update even when the screen is on.
Test it yourself. Use the default watch face, enable ambient mode, and go in a completely dark room. You can leave the watch still or move it about, just don't let it act as if you're raising your arm and brighten the display.
Watch it for two or three minutes, and you'll notice that even though the screen remains on, it never updates -- the minute hand never moves, and so it doesn't actually show the right time very quickly after it dims. (This is with the official, default watch face, a just-rest watch, the latest firmware installed, and plenty of battery remaining.)
When the screen turns on from a raise or tap in ambient mode, you can actually see the minute hand jump forward several minutes in one go. Even with ambient mode disabled, the watch still turns on automatically with the raise gesture, and it takes no longer to do so than it does in ambient mode.
That implies there is no reason to use it other than vanity. After all, in the brief time before the backlight comes on the watch shows the wrong time, and it doesn't actually show the right time any faster than it would have.
But it's not really a vanity mode either, because except in a very dark place, the dimmed screen is indistinguishable from a powered off one to those standing near you. So you're wasting power, but still look like you have a blank screen on your wrist.
So what, precisely, is the point? It seems to me to add no benefit, just to waste battery. I'm baffled.
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Just watched mine move the minutes hand just fine in ambient mode... this is with the classic Motorola face.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsTpDpgYwFY
I have started using ambient mode for the first time in a bright office environment and noticed that at random times the display completely turns off. It turns back on once I move my hand ever so slightly. For me Ambient Mode should always be on regardless of lighting condition and watch orientation.
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I have started using ambient mode for the first time in a bright office environment and noticed that at random times the display completely turns off. It turns back on once I move my hand ever so slightly. For me Ambient Mode should always be on regardless of lighting condition and watch orientation.
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I thought it would stay on the dimmed mode the whole time too... but like you said it turns on with even the slightest rotation of the wrist now, and that means we can finally glance at the watch and see the time!
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The minuets do update in real time so idk what you're seeing?
This observation definitely needs to be settled because we have 2 conflicting reports here. Some of you are claiming the watch does not update the time even when the screen is on unless you fully wake the screen. Others are saying it updates just fine, so what gives?
FYI my G watch always displays the correct time, even when dimmed, so I dont think it's an Android Wear problem. Sounds kinda like additional battery conservation steps by Moto. They are essentially sleeping the CPU so that there is just enough juice remaining to keep the screen on for 16+ hours. I just dont understand how some of you are experiencing this and others are not.
for me, in ambient mode, the screen still turns off after a while. but it turns back on much quicker than with ambient mode off. it often takes an exaggerated bring-up-arm movement to turn on the screen with ambient off. i used to resort to tapping the screen instead. with ambient on the battery still last me a "work day". off charger at 7AM and dies around 10PM or so...battery lasts longer with stock faces compared to Facer faces...
Most developer purposes.
My ambient mode used to stay on all the time now it turns off the screen..
ws6kid said:
My ambient mode used to stay on all the time now it turns off the screen..
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I just started using it and noticed the screen stays on if you keep it flat horizontal, but if you turn your wrist past 45 degrees it turns off.
Maybe they added that with the update, did ambient mode used to stay on even when that watch is sideways?
Ambient is so useless for me, the screen is almost off all the time... So frustrating coming from a g watch
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This observation definitely needs to be settled because we have 2 conflicting reports here. Some of you are claiming the watch does not update the time even when the screen is on unless you fully wake the screen. Others are saying it updates just fine, so what gives?
FYI my G watch always displays the correct time, even when dimmed, so I dont think it's an Android Wear problem. Sounds kinda like additional battery conservation steps by Moto. They are essentially sleeping the CPU so that there is just enough juice remaining to keep the screen on for 16+ hours. I just dont understand how some of you are experiencing this and others are not.
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For me, I believe I have seen my watch 'get stuck' maybe once or twice where the time on the dim screen wasn't the same as I had on my computer. This could just be a difference in the clocks, as whenever I check both my phone and my dim watch together, they are the same. Like RunNgun42 said, I think it might be a thing where the proc is in sleep mode to try and save power and isn't keeping up the time as accurately as it could. Once you shake it though and the screen lights up again, the proc will come out of sleep and maintain more accurate timekeeping.
Isn't there a screen always on option in the android wear app?
And yes ambient mode still turns off when the watch is at an angle consistent with being down at your side or is completely still.
SilentAce07 said:
Isn't there a screen always on option in the android wear app?
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No, you can't keep the screen on at all times out of the box, but some 3rd party software can do it...
Ambient mode is a lot quicker to wake up and react than non-ambient, it's a lot more accurate (non-ambient often stays off when I turn my arm to look at the time), it's easier to see what time it is, and it acts a lot more like a conventional watch- the display is on when you need it.
Battery drain is not a biggie, I get through the day, every day.
Hello,
I have an odd question, but first...how my question came about.
I have had my Moto360 for about 5 months now and enjoy it. But, there is that pesky battery life issue. I tried the Ambient screen and I like that because of being able to simply have a clock to see the time. If I get a notification, the watch goes full brightness, vibrates and shows the normal watch face for that. But...for the 10 other hours I'm not looking at my watch it doesn't need to be constantly lit up with Ambient Mode.
So...is there a way to have Tilt to Wake show the ambient clock along with full brightness watch face for notifications? Sort of a hybrid mode of both options. I would guess this would require root to modify a base function of the OS. I currently use Pujie Black for my watchface as well. Appreciate any thoughts!
Before the most recent update this is actually how Ambient mode worked and I missed it. Screen was of until I moved it and then it must lit up to Ambient. It was very nice and I miss that functionality. I really wish there was a way to get it back.
Bump...
Anyone been able to figure this out... Is there a hack that would allow this?
Has anyone noticed that ambient display lights up upon receiving a notification but does not continue to flash like it did on previous nexus? Also it does not flash on upon picking up the device.....
I have ambient display turned on but to be honest I'm not sure my notifications even show once but I'm certain they don't show again.
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Came to post this myself. It looks like Ambient Display pops up when you get the notification then never again.
Coming from Moto Display, super disappointed. I was prepared to give up the "wave" to trigger IR sensors and pulse my notifications... I wasn't prepared to give up the feature all together!
Running into the same thing. The ambient display should flash the time, date etc when picking up the phone . Maybe just a late software bug?
Not sure how many others have seen this yet...Notification LED. Mine is getting delivered today so I haven't been able to play around with it yet. It might help with the ambient display issue.
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.andr...otification-light?client=ms-android-sprint-us
lgldrgdlr said:
Not sure how many others have seen this yet...Notification LED. Mine is getting delivered today so I haven't been able to play around with it yet. It might help with the ambient display issue.
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.andr...otification-light?client=ms-android-sprint-us
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Unfortunately that doesnt help
The display turns on it uses the battery.
I hope they never "fix" it.
I pickup the device right hand let my finger touch the finger print sensor if I want to see the display.
AstroDigital said:
The display turns on it uses the battery.
I hope they never "fix" it.
I pickup the device right hand let my finger touch the finger print sensor if I want to see the display.
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That is an argument for disabling Ambient Display. Not for hoping that Ambient Display doesn't work like it's supposed to in the first place.
Celeras said:
That is an argument for disabling Ambient Display. Not for hoping that Ambient Display doesn't work like it's supposed to in the first place.
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Right and I say three things.
1) Why when you lift it is it supposed to turn on ? Did Google ever say? When you pickup you phone the Display should turn on, because we know you careless about battery life.
2) When you pick up you phone why is it so hard to brush your finger on the finger print scanner if you want to display on ?
3) You think every time the phone moves and the display turns on it is not going to use more current, drain the battery ?
If Google ever allows you to turn on the display with just movement picking the phone up.
I hope Google allows people that think 2) and 3) are true to keep this "feature off"
AstroDigital said:
Right and I say three things.
1) Why when you lift it is it supposed to turn on ? Did Google ever say? When you pickup you phone the Display should turn on, because we know you careless about battery life.
2) When you pick up you phone why is it so hard to brush your finger on the finger print scanner if you want to display on ?
3) You think every time the phone moves and the display turns on it is not going to use more current, drain the battery ?
If Google ever allows you to turn on the display with just movement picking the phone up.
I hope Google allows people that think 2) and 3) are true to keep this "feature off"
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I'll try to spell it out for you since you apparently lack the capacity to do it yourself.
Ambient Display currently does nothing. It flashes once and is gone forever, which is completely useless. You LIKE it doing nothing. Fine. Then you can turn it off and it will still do nothing. You are happy either way.
There are people who like Ambient Display when it actually works. These people are not happy that it doesn't currently do anything. If it is fixed, then they are happy. If it is fixed, you can disable it, and you are still happy because you weren't getting anything from it in the first place.
Your twisted desire to hope something doesn't work because you don't like it is asinine.
Have a good day.
Celeras said:
I'll try to spell it out for you since you apparently lack the capacity to do it yourself.
Ambient Display currently does nothing. It flashes once and is gone forever, which is completely useless. You LIKE it doing nothing. Fine. Then you can turn it off and it will still do nothing. You are happy either way.
There are people who like Ambient Display when it actually works. These people are not happy that it doesn't currently do anything. If it is fixed, then they are happy. If it is fixed, you can disable it, and you are still happy because you weren't getting anything from it in the first place.
Your twisted desire to hope something doesn't work because you don't like it is asinine.
Have a good day.
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^^ This ^^ Because if you don't like it...then you turn it off.
Youtube link - https://youtu.be/aZREEM08Zfs
Ambient Notification Issue
Also please report this in the official thread (you can just click the star at the bottom without entering text): https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=226350&thanks=226350&ts=1477484991