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[Q] Snes Emulation woes - Latency and Emulation problems

Hello all.
I am having problems with emulation on my newly purchased xperia play.
I downloaded snesoid because I was recommended to get it by a friend *and apparently the internet is crazy about it*. When I tried playing Megaman X on it, there was very noticeable slowdown. The first stage *highway* ran at noticeably slower speeds than it did on the snes. It was playable, but felt sluggish. At first I was okay with this, but then I played it on my friend's phone just to test it out, and his was runninghttp://media.xda-developers.com/images/editor/menupop.gif it perfectly.
Does anyone know why that may be?
I also downloaded snes9x ex to test it out, and the app runs great! Problem with this app, unfortunately, is the VERY noticeable input latency. It makes platformers really odd to play on with.
I tried Seiken Densetsu 3 on Snesoid as well, and that game glitches out every conversation that comes up. The screen will flicker for a second. Very jarring.
Has anyone else experienced these kind of things with theirs, and if so, does anyone know a fix for this?
If this is phone specific, I am just going to return it since it only has been a day and just get a new one, but I want to make sure I can't do anything to fix it on my end before hand, this way I can at least learn something about these phones if there is a fix I CAN do at home, since I currently am a huge phone noob.

Something very interesting I just noticed.
Just tried Megaman X2 and X3 and those games run perfectly.
Color me confused.

Yea, SNES9x plays better with less glitches, but has noticeable button lag. Took forever for me to beat DKC, especially the mine cart stages.

Im sorry to hear about your problem mate but mine seems to run all of the games perfectly smooth. Ive had no such issues yet regarding the snesoid emulator.
If you feel strongly about it I would suggest trying out a new sexplay.

Also note the programs you have running in your running services log. Something there may be interfering with your gameplay. I can't seem to use Swiftkey X on my Xplay as it causes lag that kills the experience on nearly every game I play.
But the button lag is something you will have to deal with on any XPlay and SNES9x. Unfortunate, and hopefully will be fixed by the author at some point.

Is there button input lag with Snes A.D (free emulator on market) ?
Could someone test it for me ? I'm supposed to get the phone next week, and I chose it especially for emulation so I'd be disappointed if there are any issues with SNES games.

Have had not any issues with these games.
I use SnesOid and TigerSNES - both free.

same here,gensoid running silky smooth,fpse running perfectly fine,tiger arcade for th e most games also good,but imho useless cause no dip switch access or neo geo rom settings(tried that mame4all but no thanks,seems it support only legacy roms,don`t wanna convert all my roms for that program,the few that were running on mame4all were also laggy)
but snesoid(latest version) isn`t running good,as i stated in another thread.
for example super castlevania 4,it doesn`t matter if frameskip is on or off,set to manual or auto,it`s far away from running smooth,there is a slight stuttering when you look at the background as your character moves forward-also numerous other games..tried snes 9x or what is called,realized it doesn`t load any of my snes roms because it cant read .zip files,only .smc and even with .smc it won`t open some roms.i`ll try this tiger snes now

Hated SNES A.D. looking for a good emu right now too.

when u complain about noticeable input lag in snes9x, what kind of games are u playing? ive never really had any issues with it since its around a 10th of a second (tbh i doubt id ever of noticed it playing things like super metroid)
all of my games are in .zip files and ive never had any issues with the emulator at all, destroys snesoid imo. i do hope that the input lag is fixed, but overall i think its a much better emulator than anything else available.

I sure would like to try snes9x.... can't find it though! Little help?
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i noticed just earlier after i posted realizing i hadn't received an update in some time. It appears to have been removed from the market, odd considering that all his other emulators are still there and one of his main selling points was compliance with the gpl of snes9x (the reason it was free as opposed to his other emulators)
the website is http://www.explusalpha.com/home
Robert Brogalia is the devs name, check out his other apps, they all get fantastic feedback.

Oh my god! This emulator is amazing! Everyone get it. This should just come on the phone..... LOL
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u can change the dpi of the menus, turn off that shocking linear filtering that snesoid and all them use(i like me some retro blockiness) and it doesnt appear but when scrolling through lists thumb scroll works just fine.

Looks like I have to start over on Zelda, guess the saves are different from snesnoid. So worth it though.
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u just have to change the extention to the same one used in snes9x...if i recall snesoid uses .sav, snes9x uses .sma or something, i got all mine working so if u fiddle u should get it, afaik quicksaves are a no-go however, just the battery backup works.

Snesoid is based on the snes9x source anyway......
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if people are finding solutions that work better for them thats a good thing, i dont care if the source is the same, i find it to be a better emulator. i will say i initially bought all yonghz apps including n64oid.

Goping back on topic i just got myself a Play today, and i have major problems with games on gameboid, genesoid, snesoid theyw ill jump around and skip frames. I know why it's becuase it has frameskip set to 2 by default. If i set it to 0 then the audio produces an annoying stuttering and clicking. I just don't belive this ive seen thousands of videos showing th performance and sound of the games and its perfect. Ive even rooted and stripped my Play of some apps too. Now im really at wits end this thing wont emulate any game perfectly... What can i do????

linkandzelda said:
Goping back on topic i just got myself a Play today, and i have major problems with games on gameboid, genesoid, snesoid theyw ill jump around and skip frames. I know why it's becuase it has frameskip set to 2 by default. If i set it to 0 then the audio produces an annoying stuttering and clicking. I just don't belive this ive seen thousands of videos showing th performance and sound of the games and its perfect. Ive even rooted and stripped my Play of some apps too. Now im really at wits end this thing wont emulate any game perfectly... What can i do????
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Trust me mate, I've tried everything on both of my Xperia Plays. One stock, and one overclocked to 1.6ghx with CyanogenMod 7.
I'm at the same stage... I set games to 0 frameskipping and most games run perfectly, however if I enable the sound I get this horrible crackle (and with TigerMAME 3.0.3 noticable lag spikes - which is a damn shame). I think most of these emus need optimising for Xperia Play.
'Perfect' is such an over-used term these days... However these are the best emus of the bunch in my opinion... Trust me, I'm extremely anal when it comes to emulation.
TigerMAME 3.0.3 - With sound disabled can run games like Gigawing and Mars Matrix perfectly. I really hope the audio can be optimised. I'm currently playing the above two games with my own music playing in the background until then. Also, I believe older versions of Tiger run more games than this release...
MAME4Droid - Good for games which fall under the old MAME romset. Most games run smooth with audio (a lot of older games run perfectly) and the amount of CPU/audio customisation is unrivaled.
SNES9X EX - Runs games perfectly (excluding the Mode-7 heavy titles), with only slight audio crackle... Hoping for this to be resolved soon.
MD.EMU - The best Genesis/Megadrive emu around, same dev as SNES9X EX. Does the job where others fail (ie: near perfect Sonic 3 performance). Some audio problems here also.
GBAoid - Seems to work perfectly with everything I've tried. I need to put more research into GBA emu.

Lag games

so ive been really annoyed with game lag on my phone recently . I used to think it was just a normal part of android and the way its system works and keeps interrupting the processer to do other tasks in the background while I play, but amazingly enough i looked at some youtube videos and saw people playing on it with pretty much 0 lag. So what do you think I should do to get this fixed?
1. My set up is as follows: Inspire 4 G running Absolution Rom overclocked to 1.3 GHz whenever i open a game, using ADW launcher with 7 home screens and 8 main widgets apart from shortcuts on my home screens : widgets = android pro widgets facebook widget and calendar widget, speak to it assistant widget, some random clock widget, time magazine widget, CNN widget, evernote widget and a bookmarks widget. One day ago i also installed chainfire 3D trying to solve this but havent noticed any reall difference and the NENA mark test actually got worse with only 29 FPS now instead of my previous scores of 32 and 34 on a regular basis. active programs that i think the system would keep on all the time are whatsapp, Go-SMS, email, tasker, and the call recorder.
2. the games lagging that ive tested so far: temple run and real racing 2. gun bros used to lag on the stock rom but is okay on absolution.
so what do you think is my problem? should I download some plugin for chainfire? overclock some more? is it my widgets?? also would a phone slow down with more programs installed? I have a large 32 Gb Sd Card, does that affect my phone's speed?

oik01 said:
so ive been really annoyed with game lag on my phone recently . I used to think it was just a normal part of android and the way its system works and keeps interrupting the processer to do other tasks in the background while I play, but amazingly enough i looked at some youtube videos and saw people playing on it with pretty much 0 lag. So what do you think I should do to get this fixed?
1. My set up is as follows: Inspire 4 G running Absolution Rom overclocked to 1.3 GHz whenever i open a game, using ADW launcher with 7 home screens and 8 main widgets apart from shortcuts on my home screens : widgets = android pro widgets facebook widget and calendar widget, speak to it assistant widget, some random clock widget, time magazine widget, CNN widget, evernote widget and a bookmarks widget. One day ago i also installed chainfire 3D trying to solve this but havent noticed any reall difference and the NENA mark test actually got worse with only 29 FPS now instead of my previous scores of 32 and 34 on a regular basis. active programs that i think the system would keep on all the time are whatsapp, Go-SMS, email, tasker, and the call recorder.
2. the games lagging that ive tested so far: temple run and real racing 2. gun bros used to lag on the stock rom but is okay on absolution.
so what do you think is my problem? should I download some plugin for chainfire? overclock some more? is it my widgets?? also would a phone slow down with more programs installed? I have a large 32 Gb Sd Card, does that affect my phone's speed?
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No need for chainfire...
1. what i know from my personal experience, is that sense roms are ram hungry so you have to pretty much kill all the apps before playing games.
2. If you want good gaming experience? get LC ICS as it has the latest gpu drivers for adreno 2xx, and overall gaming on it is much better according to my own experience.

Absolution isn't a Sense ROM. I use Absolution as one of the ROM's on my SD card on my Boot Manager & it plays Temple Run flawlessly. With no overclock or ChainFire & undervolted -50ma. It's something with ur setup. Did u do a full wipe before flashing Absolution?

HTCinspiration said:
Absolution isn't a Sense ROM. I use Absolution as one of the ROM's on my SD card on my Boot Manager & it plays Temple Run flawlessly. With no overclock or ChainFire & undervolted -50ma. It's something with ur setup. Did u do a full wipe before flashing Absolution?
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yup, full wipe then restored only applications with titanium backup
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[Q] Best ICS Rom for gaming

What is the best ICS Rom that plays well with games? I want an ICS custom rom where its stable enough to use daily and can run all of the emulators and xperia play games fine (battlefield, nova, dead space,ect).

ICS++

Where can I get it for the Xperia Play??

blanco.juanfelipe said:
Where can I get it for the Xperia Play??
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Well it depends what type of ICS you are looking for. The best I would say would be the official Beta sony released a while ago!
here is the link: http://developer.sonymobile.com/wp/...or-unlocked-xperia-play-smartphones-download/
But if don't like the Sony firmware interface and the loads of crap thats comes with it then I'd also say ICS++
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1599906
But I have to say Atarii is no longer continuing with ICS++ he has GalaxyS3 and won't be around as frequent. So I'd say having said that you'd be better off with ROM that DEVS are working on ATM i.e.
1) Cyanogenmod 9 by Freexperia: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1447542
Touchpad/gamepad and Gaming Optimisation: Medium (Emulators work still a work in progress) More stable with normal games
2) Official ICS port of Xperia ray: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1599269
Touchpad/gamepad and Gaming Optimisation: Good (Emulators work still a work in progress - New game launcher)

Well I was happy with GB 2.3.4 for gaming until I decided to play HAWX. No Gamepad support… then I found GAMEKEYBOARD. At that time there was no support for touchpads, only the game buttons. The only option was JOYSTICK CENTER, only available for ICS! I decided to try it, also willing to get a better user interface…
The first rom I tried was the official sony ICS Beta version, very stable, however it was slow for some high end games (TDKR for example). Some OLD games crashed such as Shadow Guardian and HAWX.
I installed the Pureless ICS afterwards, however the user interface and figures were a little bit too fancy for me…did not tried the performance
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1822118
Then I changed to Markphyton’s Stock ICS… great rom too. Stable and with nice user interface and widgets, such as menu when scrolling down the screen. 180 Mb RAM size… realy nice! But TDKR was still slow and the crashing game issue still happened for old games… When Wild blood came and even with overclock the game was lagging…I decided to change it back to GB!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1854682
So… I went back to GB… this time NXT light… what a rom. The rom itself is only 80 Mb, so there is a lots of RAM free! Very stable. Some things I like about it:
- All games run lackless!
- The apps already installed are exactly what I needed (except the file explorer).
o The Music player (Clean Music) plays directories and even skips the song when pressing volume button longer!
o Quick Pic is fast and let me select multiple Pictures at same time
- Percent Battery icon is even better than Markphyton’s Stock ICS
- Menu when scrolling down the screen
- Camera works with buttons and FOCUS and TAKES the picture when pressing R button stead of only focusing like the Camera MOD app in googleplay.
- The cool old TV looking when screen turns off
So I also tried NXT2JB rom just for fun, but it came with so mane apps that I do not use that I went back to NXT light right away!
PS: Gamekeyboard NOW controls touchpads in xperia play... so I am finally happy!!!

ceamaral said:
Well I was happy with GB 2.3.4 for gaming until I decided to play HAWX. No Gamepad support… then I found GAMEKEYBOARD. At that time there was no support for touchpads, only the game buttons. The only option was JOYSTICK CENTER, only available for ICS! I decided to try it, also willing to get a better user interface…
The first rom I tried was the official sony ICS Beta version, very stable, however it was slow for some high end games (TDKR for example). Some OLD games crashed such as Shadow Guardian and HAWX.
I installed the Pureless ICS afterwards, however the user interface and figures were a little bit too fancy for me…did not tried the performance
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1822118
Then I changed to Markphyton’s Stock ICS… great rom too. Stable and with nice user interface and widgets, such as menu when scrolling down the screen. 180 Mb RAM size… realy nice! But TDKR was still slow and the crashing game issue still happened for old games… When Wild blood came and even with overclock the game was lagging…I decided to change it back to GB!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1854682
So… I went back to GB… this time NXT light… what a rom. The rom itself is only 80 Mb, so there is a lots of RAM free! Very stable. Some things I like about it:
- All games run lackless!
- The apps already installed are exactly what I needed (except the file explorer).
o The Music player (Clean Music) plays directories and even skips the song when pressing volume button longer!
o Quick Pic is fast and let me select multiple Pictures at same time
- Percent Battery icon is even better than Markphyton’s Stock ICS
- Menu when scrolling down the screen
- Camera works with buttons and FOCUS and TAKES the picture when pressing R button stead of only focusing like the Camera MOD app in googleplay.
- The cool old TV looking when screen turns off
So I also tried NXT2JB rom just for fun, but it came with so mane apps that I do not use that I went back to NXT light right away!
PS: Gamekeyboard NOW controls touchpads in xperia play... so I am finally happy!!!
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Yeah, ICS ROMs are pretty sweet, but some games only work on GB and I'm not willing to part with them.

GB
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ceamaral said:
Well I was happy with GB 2.3.4 for gaming until I decided to play HAWX. No Gamepad support… then I found GAMEKEYBOARD. At that time there was no support for touchpads, only the game buttons. The only option was JOYSTICK CENTER, only available for ICS! I decided to try it, also willing to get a better user interface…
The first rom I tried was the official sony ICS Beta version, very stable, however it was slow for some high end games (TDKR for example). Some OLD games crashed such as Shadow Guardian and HAWX.
I installed the Pureless ICS afterwards, however the user interface and figures were a little bit too fancy for me…did not tried the performance
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1822118
Then I changed to Markphyton’s Stock ICS… great rom too. Stable and with nice user interface and widgets, such as menu when scrolling down the screen. 180 Mb RAM size… realy nice! But TDKR was still slow and the crashing game issue still happened for old games… When Wild blood came and even with overclock the game was lagging…I decided to change it back to GB!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1854682
So… I went back to GB… this time NXT light… what a rom. The rom itself is only 80 Mb, so there is a lots of RAM free! Very stable. Some things I like about it:
- All games run lackless!
- The apps already installed are exactly what I needed (except the file explorer).
o The Music player (Clean Music) plays directories and even skips the song when pressing volume button longer!
o Quick Pic is fast and let me select multiple Pictures at same time
- Percent Battery icon is even better than Markphyton’s Stock ICS
- Menu when scrolling down the screen
- Camera works with buttons and FOCUS and TAKES the picture when pressing R button stead of only focusing like the Camera MOD app in googleplay.
- The cool old TV looking when screen turns off
So I also tried NXT2JB rom just for fun, but it came with so mane apps that I do not use that I went back to NXT light right away!
PS: Gamekeyboard NOW controls touchpads in xperia play... so I am finally happy!!!
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Have you tried any N64 emulators?
How do they run?
Also, is the interface smooth?
I am looking for a gaming rom tha is really really fast.
Thanks for your comments!!

Gaming Peformance - Audio Lag? (Beans Rom)

Hi. This is my first post - I'm new to Android - this is my first Android phone and places like this and the people here and their work are why I switched.
(short version)
Can any Note2 gamers out there chime in on game performance? I am getting deal-breaking lag on any game I try (admittedly limited but including GTA3, MaxPayne and MAME).
(long version)
In the month or so I've had the phone I have rooted and unlocked it, used stock for a while and then went to Jelly Beans' ROM. I've run all the odd numbered versions of that rom, stock kernel, clean wipe every time. I've read the thread about the rom all the way through...
About a week ago I learned I could use a PS3 controller over USB natively for gaming and it worked right our of the box for games like GTA3 and Max Payne. I grabbed the games, and they seem to play great, but there is a noticeable audio lag - like 1/2 to a full second. The visuals seem to be smooth, and the controls seem to be responsive, but the audio lag makes games unplayable. I've only tried those two games pul some emulators, but both animaonline (SNES) and mame4droid (not reloaded) have the same audio lag issues. I get the lag over bluetooth and with wired headphones.
Some searching showed me that audio latency has been an issue with Android for a while, but also that Jelly Bean was supposed to fix that, and that higher end phones (like the note 2?!) had less of a problem. I also haven't seen any complaints from Note 2 owners regarding any of the games I mentioned.
I'm curious what others' experience has been with this. Thanks,

ScottieB said:
Hi. This is my first post - I'm new to Android - this is my first Android phone and places like this and the people here and their work are why I switched.
(short version)
Can any Note2 gamers out there chime in on game performance? I am getting deal-breaking lag on any game I try (admittedly limited but including GTA3, MaxPayne and MAME).
(long version)
In the month or so I've had the phone I have rooted and unlocked it, used stock for a while and then went to Jelly Beans' ROM. I've run all the odd numbered versions of that rom, stock kernel, clean wipe every time. I've read the thread about the rom all the way through...
About a week ago I learned I could use a PS3 controller over USB natively for gaming and it worked right our of the box for games like GTA3 and Max Payne. I grabbed the games, and they seem to play great, but there is a noticeable audio lag - like 1/2 to a full second. The visuals seem to be smooth, and the controls seem to be responsive, but the audio lag makes games unplayable. I've only tried those two games pul some emulators, but both animaonline (SNES) and mame4droid (not reloaded) have the same audio lag issues. I get the lag over bluetooth and with wired headphones.
Some searching showed me that audio latency has been an issue with Android for a while, but also that Jelly Bean was supposed to fix that, and that higher end phones (like the note 2?!) had less of a problem. I also haven't seen any complaints from Note 2 owners regarding any of the games I mentioned.
I'm curious what others' experience has been with this. Thanks,
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Bean's ROM is an rom that was ported so it was not made specifically for the Sprint GN2. THIS is probably your problem.

Shield (hopefully) now compatible with touch apps.

soo ive been crying since day one when i found out i couldnt play NOVA 3 on my newly bought shield, i thought about using a custom firmware but didnt want to lose functionality, i ended up adapting my 4tb hdd as internal memory so once i did that for me there was no goong back lol, so ive been trying to find a way to map controls and thought of everything and nothing seemed to work. sixaxis controller app didnt work when i tried a few times a year back but there has since been an update and now i can map the touch controls for nova and play perfectly so im guessing that opens up a lot more apps and games that require touch we couldnt use before but prob can now. For me this is the best early christmas present i could have asked for. Thought id let you lot know just in case ya didnt.

if you play Modern Combat 5, NOVA 3 or are generally into android online gaming, anything to do with Nvidia Shield, Kodi or Plex - join us https://discord.gg/XsMz44k http://droidshield.boards.net

I use Zulu full Android with game controller2touch it does wonders

Also I noticed we have good fps' for android and most of these games have no chat support which is odd. I play modern combat 5 a lot and have now made a server where we can use any windows, android or iOS device to use voice chat while in game. so download 'discord' free from play store, app store, website etc and join us here. Http://discord.gg/ThWtash. If you want to join our MC5 clan just ask.