Probleme with S-off - One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello guys,
I have problem to make my M8 s-off. I put driver adb and i start with Firewater, he worwork, hé open first bottle, then he write "you have been parched by HTC. So, if i can't put S-off, i can't upgrade my firmware, and i'can't improve my phone to new version of viper. Also, i think when lolipop arrive i'can't improve also ..... Sad.
Do some one have a solution for that and does some one work on this problème problem.
ThanThankr for you're answer.

Aguyos said:
Hello guys,
I have problem to make my M8 s-off. I put driver adb and i start with Firewater, he worwork, hé open first bottle, then he write "you have been parched by HTC. So, if i can't put S-off, i can't upgrade my firmware, and i'can't improve my phone to new version of viper. Also, i think when lolipop arrive i'can't improve also ..... Sad.
Do some one have a solution for that and does some one work on this problème problem.
ThanThankr for you're answer.
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Search for Sunshine. The most well spent €25 for all the reasons you stated

Aguyos said:
Hello guys,
I have problem to make my M8 s-off. I put driver adb and i start with Firewater, he worwork, hé open first bottle, then he write "you have been parched by HTC. So, if i can't put S-off, i can't upgrade my firmware, and i'can't improve my phone to new version of viper. Also, i think when lolipop arrive i'can't improve also ..... Sad.
Do some one have a solution for that and does some one work on this problème problem.
ThanThankr for you're answer.
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That is not your only problem, posting in the wrong section also...
Please read the Forum Rules on posting.
Judgment, from my M8 using Forum Runner.....

Judge Joseph Dredd said:
That is not your only problem, posting in the wrong section also...
Please read the Forum Rules on posting.
Judgment, from my M8 using Forum Runner.....
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I'm passing 'judgement' right now on your spelling.

xunholyx said:
I'm passing 'judgement' right now on your spelling.
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What if I don't have money to spend on software that 'unlocks' my phone? It used to be free with firewater and now people that couldn't know HTC is going to fix fw have to pay 25$ to allow full customization to their phones? BS.
Any other ways without this paid stuff to go s-off...?

quadlt said:
What if I don't have money to spend on software that 'unlocks' my phone? It used to be free with firewater and now people that couldn't know HTC is going to fix fw have to pay 25$ to allow full customization to their phones? BS.
Any other ways without this paid stuff to go s-off...?
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Your phone costs $700 stock. Is $25 really too much to ask for to s-off and give you full access and to mod to your hearts content?
That being said, do you really need s-off?
Do you really need it?
S-on will protect you.

xunholyx said:
Your phone costs $700 stock. Is $25 really too much to ask for to s-off and give you full access and to mod to your hearts content?
That being said, do you really need s-off?
Do you really need it?
S-on will protect you.
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I have two options with s-on: either somehow find an old ROM for my old firmware or bear with the 2+ minutes boot time. So yeah I really need it.

quadlt said:
I have two options with s-on: either somehow find an old ROM for my old firmware or bear with the 2+ minutes boot time. So yeah I really need it.
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Well, if you REALLY need it, pony up the $25. If it is something you REALLY need, Then $25 isn't too much to ask for.
Sorry if I'm coming across as an *sshole, but for real dude.

xunholyx said:
Well, if you REALLY need it, pony up the $25. If it is something you REALLY need, Then $25 isn't too much to ask for.
Sorry if I'm coming across as an *sshole, but for real dude.
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I understand and I wouldn't be all sore about this if everyone either got it for free or paid the price. Since, as I said, there are people that got away with firewater before the patch, it's a bit unfair from my point of view.

quadlt said:
I understand and I wouldn't be all sore about this if everyone either got it for free or paid the price. Since, as I said, there are people that got away with firewater before the patch, it's a bit unfair from my point of view.
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Well that's called life......lots of unfair things happen, third world countries, wars, animal cruelty
If i have the choice i would gladly choose the unfairness of $25

Mr Hofs said:
Well that's called life......lots of unfair things happen, third world countries, wars, animal cruelty
If i have the choice i would gladly choose the unfairness of $25
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Good for you guys when you work on your own and 25$ is nothing but pocket change, not so here in my, you could say, third world country...

quadlt said:
I understand and I wouldn't be all sore about this if everyone either got it for free or paid the price. Since, as I said, there are people that got away with firewater before the patch, it's a bit unfair from my point of view.
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I'm going to repeat this.
Do you REALLY NEED S-Off? S-On is a better choice unless you want to downgrade your firmware or get into settings that I can guarantee you don't want to touch with what I assume is your limited knowledge with the /system partition
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quadlt said:
Good for you guys when you work on your own and 25$ is nothing but pocket change, not so here in my, you could say, third world country...
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Yet you have a $700 device in your pocket.

quadlt said:
Good for you guys when you work on your own and 25$ is nothing but pocket change, not so here in my, you could say, third world country...
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I never said anything about it being pocket money here, and i am certainly not here to discuss a third world country. Everybody has his reasons why they do or simply can't afford it.
This whole type of discussion has been done several times now and it doesn't change the situation one bit unfortunately.
So i would say stop thinking and writing about it here as it's not helping you at all (not saying you can't give your opinion but this always ends the same way)
Get the money for s-off or stay s-on ! That's the only option you have.

Well you guys just went full on me. Sorry for 'spamming' the topic and have a good one.

quadlt said:
Well you guys just went full on me. Sorry for 'spamming' the topic and have a good one.
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Ah no, just being honest and straightforward with ya, not to bash or anything but this is how it is and it's not going to change.
Cheers.

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[Q] rooting

plz tell me hw to root htc desire with htc quik rooter.i tried to root but a notification root command is missing
sandeepbkurup said:
plz tell me hw to root htc desire with htc quik rooter.i tried to root but a notification root command is missing
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The only game in town for the DHD is the Advanced Ace Hack Kit. Don't use any other tool. Find all the information you need here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1824379&page=1
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sandeepbkurup said:
plz tell me hw to root htc desire with htc quik rooter.i tried to root but a notification root command is missing
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Please use Advanced ACE Hack Kit it will downgrade your radio and then it will root your device with S-off after that your ready to install any ROM you like.
GLADS said:
Please use Advanced ACE Hack Kit it will downgrade your radio and then it will root your device with S-off after that your ready to install any ROM you like.
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Dude, I know you want to help but it's starting to get annoying seeing that your answering the same thing members before you have already replied.
You gotta practice those refresh skills more.
Sent from a dream.
GLADS said:
Please use Advanced ACE Hack Kit it will downgrade your radio and then it will root your device with S-off after that your ready to install any ROM you like.
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Teichopsia said:
Dude, I know you want to help but it's starting to get annoying seeing that your answering the same thing members before you have already replied.
You gotta practice those refresh skills more.
Sent from a dream.
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And besides what you are saying is not quite accurate, so you'd better study a bit more what the Hack Kit involves.
glevitan said:
And besides what you are saying is not quite accurate, so you'd better study a bit more what the Hack Kit involves.
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Coffee hasn't kicked in yet
Sent from a dream.
Teichopsia said:
Coffee hasn't kicked in yet
Sent from a dream.
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LOL...I have reported the user already. It seems that posting nonsense is his hobby.
glevitan said:
LOL...I have reported the user already. It seems that posting nonsense is his hobby.
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Awww, come on... He is only trying to be helpful. All he needs is a little guidance. He does have a couple posts helping a few people with replacing the cam.apk
Where did he get it no idea - but he is trying to help.
Sent from a dream.
Teichopsia said:
Dude, I know you want to help but it's starting to get annoying seeing that your answering the same thing members before you have already replied.
You gotta practice those refresh skills more.
Sent from a dream.
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When I entered this topic there was no post so I clicked reply. I just typed a few words and I got a call. so I was paused in between.
By the time I submitted. there was another post by some 1.
glevitan said:
LOL...I have reported the user already. It seems that posting nonsense is his hobby.
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For the very 1st time I was afraid to do all this rooting and etc. One Day I finally decided to root and install custom ROM. I was even worried what if I bricked my device as it was still under warranty. Just 3 months had past. I was upset because I didn't get an official ICS update.
But I promised myself that if I root and install custom ROM successfully then I would surly help others.
Whatever I know I just answer it and what I don't I just ignore.
If you still think I am wrong then Report it.
I might not be an old member here But I made this promise to myself to help others if I can Because there was a time where I was standing at their place.
Not trying to pick a fight buddy. This is not the first thread you do it in, that's all I'm saying. You are o.k. in my book. Keep it up and don't let these two old grinches dampen your spirits. I did put in my 'no coffee disclaimer'.
Sent from a dream.
Teichopsia said:
Not trying to pick a fight buddy. This is not the first thread you do it in, that's all I'm saying. You are o.k. in my book. Keep it up and don't let these two old grinches dampen your spirits. I did put in my 'no coffee disclaimer'.
Sent from a dream.
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No Bro we are not fighting and I am not taking you wrong in any ways.
I forgive and forget :victory:
I would only say your always right and I'm might be wrong. I respect senior members
Might be your right from your side but I try to give my opinion on what I have experienced.
GLADS said:
No Bro we are not fighting and I am not taking you wrong in any ways.
I forgive and forget :victory:
I would only say your always right and I'm might be wrong. I respect senior members
Might be your right from your side but I try to give my opinion on what I have experienced.
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GLADS, I am in no way trying to pick a fight. I am just saying that having 55 posts you should know that to help peope out you have to point them in the right direction. Saying always "...the Hack Kit..." does not help anyone.
Also saying: "...you should have had a hard time..." does not either. If you really want to help, then point people in the right directions, provide links, explain how to do things. We all came here as noobs, but some still after 300 posts. The difference is who wants to learn and listens to other users and who doesn´t.
glevitan said:
GLADS, I am in no way trying to pick a fight. I am just saying that having 55 posts you should know that to help peope out you have to point them in the right direction. Saying always "...the Hack Kit..." does not help anyone.
Also saying: "...you should have had a hard time..." does not either. If you really want to help, then point people in the right directions, provide links, explain how to do things. We all came here as noobs, but some still after 300 posts. The difference is who wants to learn and listens to other users and who doesn´t.
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Okay Bro. I will keep that in my mind. Thanks

Sunshine app malware

I paid for the app and app did the job. After few months they sent me warning message that they will brick my device. The reason is their problem with receiving the money. My device didn't get bricked but it gets a lot slower(laggy and unstable). That can only be done with malware inside app and that is illegal.
ARHD 50.2
Skydragon 1.6.5
SleamBeam(latest)
With all these roms i had the same problem. All was unstable(system crash) and laggy. Installation was clean.
I will sue them.
Did anyone had similar problem with sunshine app?
93boba said:
Did anyone had similar problem with sunshine app?
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No such problem.
You issue I believe is more on firmware matter.
93boba said:
I paid for the app and app did the job. After few months they sent me warning message that they will brick my device. The reason is their problem with receiving the money.
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I don't get it, if you paid, why would they be threatening you? Or am I misunderstanding something?
Before you start threatening back at them, did you even contacted the developers ?
And why do you feel the need to express it in this way ? I have NEVER seen anyone here the past YEAR that reported this.
Think about it before you post please
ckpv5 said:
No such problem.
You issue I believe is more on firmware matter.
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The brick threat that I gain is in my mail. Firmware was upgraded to the latest sense 3 months before the mail i received. There was no problem then.
You don't want to use app which can be after used to "brick" your device. It is not mine concern for they money transaction failure. I don't own that money anymore. That is a reason for expressing it.
93boba said:
You don't want to use app which can be after used to "brick" your device. It is not mine concern for they money transaction failure. I don't own that money anymore. That is a reason for expressing it.
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XDA is not the place to "fight" over this ! We don't care what issues you have with sunshine. About software and phone problems we can assist but we ain't here to help you battle some legal issues or emails you get from them.
Take it up with them, contact them and solve this (if the mail is truly from them, which i doubt for a little)
You better think and get your facts first before you start accusing sunshine containing mallware !
Cheers.
Mr Hofs said:
XDA is not the place to "fight" over this ! We don't care what issues you have with sunshine. About software and phone problems we can assist but we ain't here to help you battle some legal issues or emails you get from them.
Take it up with them, contact them and solve this (if the mail is truly from them, which i doubt for a little)
You better think and get your facts first before you start accusing sunshine containing mallware !
Cheers.
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I don't fight. I wanted to express that inside app malware. If you don't care do not respond. I asked people who care.
93boba said:
I don't fight. I wanted to express that inside app malware. If you don't care do not respond. I asked people who care.
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How do you know this, have you contacted the devs ? I think personally you came here first to kick some doors before you even took this to the devs of sunshine.
I would withdraw some comments until you have some answers from them and know what you are talking about. This is absolutely a one side story.
Good luck !
93boba said:
I don't fight. I wanted to express that inside app malware. If you don't care do not respond. I asked people who care.
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Mr Hofs is free to express his opinions. Why do you think you have the right to express yours, and then tell him he cannot?
In any case, I see a mod locking this thread in 3 . . 2 . . 1 . .
Mr Hofs said:
How do you know this, have you contacted the devs ? I think personally you came here first to kick some doors before you even took this to the devs of sunshine.
I would withdraw some comments until you have some answers from them and know what you are talking about. This is absolutely a one side story.
Good luck !
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Without threat i wouldn't blame anyone. With it I got good reason for it. Even if I wanted to cheat them they can not use built in malware app for insurance. There is court for that.
redpoint73 said:
Mr Hofs is free to express his opinions. Why do you think you have the right to express yours, and then tell him he cannot?
In any case, I see a mod locking this thread in 3 . . 2 . . 1 . .
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It is ok to express, but there is no reason for arguing. That was what i said.
93boba said:
It is ok to express, but there is no reason for arguing. That was what i said.
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I'm not arguing, you are threatening here to sue them without even contacting them. In all your responses you not once said that you sent them an email back with an explanation. So coming in here and saying what you say is not justified.
My 2 cents and i will leave it at that.
Mr Hofs said:
I'm not arguing, you are threatening here to sue them without even contacting them. In all your responses you not once said that you sent them an email back with an explanation. So coming in here and saying what you say is not justified.
My 2 cents and i will leave it at that.
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This is a free community. I express myself and asked. I did not insult anyone. I gained the threatening mail and I wanted to share it with xda members. As I get impacted after receiving the mail I said that i will visit the court. I don't see any problem with that.
93boba said:
This is a free community. I express myself and asked. I did not insult anyone. I gained the threatening mail and I wanted to share it with xda members. As I get impacted after receiving the mail I said that i will visit the court. I don't see any problem with that.
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Btw.....all the roms you tried are MM roms. Did you ever thought about the idea to update your firmware ?
Mr Hofs said:
Btw.....all the roms you tried are MM roms. Did you ever thought about the idea to update your firmware ?
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Before you post read the thread. You got your answer on first page.
93boba said:
Before you post read the thread. You got your answer on first page.
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No, wrong.
MM Sense firmware didn't exist 3 months ago.
If that was the last time you updated firmware, then your firmware is not current.
redpoint73 said:
No, wrong.
MM Sense firmware didn't exist 3 months ago.
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When they came out i upgraded. I searched for some kind of help to get over it. Not to fight.
93boba said:
When they came out i upgraded. I searched for some kind of help to get over it. Not to fight.
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Then why don't you post your getvar data, and see if we can actually help; instead of blaming sunshine which is probably completely unrelated.
redpoint73 said:
Then why don't you post your getvar data, and see if we can actually help; instead of blaming sunshine which is probably completely unrelated.
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I will. The reason for blaming is threat that they will brick my device. This is not blaming without arguments.
Let me tell you this most "plastic":
-I upgraded firmware when it came out
-I was on skydragon rom 1.6.0. (before new year)
-I had no problems
-I received mail after a weak from installing Skydragon
-After mail I gain unstable device
-Reinstalling rom did not help
-Tried lollipop roms and have the same problem

How much does it take?

So I have stumbled upon a problem with rooting/unlocking the boot loader for the Verizon variant of the mot z play. I've seen posts and other tutorials asking for a solution. But I see a similar reply to those questions: that it isn't going to happen due to the lack of dev support. So I am creating this thread to ask the developers what we (the ones who want root for moto z play Verizon) can do to get their full attention on, not just the moto z play, but all Verizon variants. So Devs What do you want? and Owners, What can you give?
zen_hakuren said:
So I have stumbled upon a problem with rooting/unlocking the boot loader for the Verizon variant of the mot z play. I've seen posts and other tutorials asking for a solution. But I see a similar reply to those questions: that it isn't going to happen due to the lack of dev support. So I am creating this thread to ask the developers what we (the ones who want root for moto z play Verizon) can do to get their full attention on, not just the moto z play, but all Verizon variants. So Devs What do you want? and Owners, What can you give?
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Probably easier to find a unicorn in the wild...
dandrumheller said:
Probably easier to find a unicorn in the wild...
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Maybe but one can try to find one. And with luck catch it.
From what I understand, Verizon bootloaders are not unlockable. They have only seen to gotten more strict with this over time. I would recommend getting a non-verizon or att variant of every phone in the future.
"Not Unlock-able" is not in the vocabulary of the hacking world. I know someone some where can crack the boot-loader its only a matter of time and effort. Anything can be cracked.
zen_hakuren said:
"Not Unlock-able" is not in the vocabulary of the hacking world. I know someone some where can crack the boot-loader its only a matter of time and effort. Anything can be cracked.
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In a theoretical sense that's likely true. But it may require more time, money and resources than are available to the Devs on XDA. I think the point is, if you buy a locked Verizon or AT&T device, don't count on an unlock ever being available, especially if you aren't paying the salary of the guy working on it.
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In a theoretical sense that's likely true. But it may require more time, money and resources than are available to the Devs on XDA. I think the point is, if you buy a locked Verizon or AT&T device, don't count on an unlock ever being available, especially if you aren't paying the salary of the guy working on it.
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If I can get someone or a group to do it I wouldn't mind paying.
zen_hakuren said:
If I can get someone or a group to do it I wouldn't mind paying.
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Lol, I'll be happy to take on the task for $100k/year plus hardware expenses and health bennies. No guarantee of success though.
zen_hakuren said:
If I can get someone or a group to do it I wouldn't mind paying.
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If you are that head strong, learn and do it your self, or change carriers and phone. I let you guess which would be easier and cheaper....
Jimi Mack said:
If you are that head strong, learn and do it your self, or change carriers and phone. I let you guess which would be easier and cheaper....
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But who to learn from and what kind of coding... Linux?
zen_hakuren said:
But who to learn from and what kind of coding... Linux?
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Once again I remind people... Google is your friend.
Jimi Mack said:
Once again I remind people... Google is your friend.
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True...but talking to someone who is knowledgeable rather than a search engine may be more effective and efficient. And this seems to be one of the best places to find someone like that.
dandrumheller said:
Lol, I'll be happy to take on the task for $100k/year plus hardware expenses and health bennies. No guarantee of success though.
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One bootloader crack is not nearly worth that.$300 starting and 20 more weekly with prove of improvement​/work per bootloader unlock per phone.
zen_hakuren said:
One bootloader crack is not nearly worth that.$300 starting and 20 more weekly with prove of improvement​/work per bootloader unlock per phone.
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Heh heh, my time is worth way more than that to other people, as is the time of most people who are likely capable of actually succeeding. I'm likely not actually capable.
Guess you better start learning.
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True...but talking to someone who is knowledgeable rather than a search engine may be more effective and efficient. And this seems to be one of the best places to find someone like that.
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I call it the lazy y way... and it is not efficient or effective. Everyone else has already come to terms it will not be done.
Jimi Mack said:
I call it the lazy y way... and it is not efficient or effective. Everyone else has already come to terms it will not be done.
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Everyone else is not me...
6th line:
" I will never quit"
zen_hakuren said:
Everyone else is not me...
6th line:
" I will never quit"
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Good for you, you have a lot of learning to do... have fun.
Jimi Mack said:
Good for you, you have a lot of learning to do... have fun.
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I will thx!
Jimi Mack said:
Good for you, you have a lot of learning to do... have fun.
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Also if I find a solution I'll post it!
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Also if I find a solution I'll post it!
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We look forward to seeing you part the Red Sea.
Now please stop talking about it and actually do it.

Help s-off and oreo please

Is there any way to s-off my device for free without sunshine app
Secondly should i be s-off to be able to install official oreo
Andrew7Henry said:
Is there any way to s-off my device for free without sunshine app
Secondly should i be s-off to be able to install official oreo
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No and no.
The current Oreo RUU is probably a leak, thus not official.
Andrew7Henry said:
Is there any way to s-off my device for free without sunshine app
Secondly should i be s-off to be able to install official oreo
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You need flash firmware ,i have stock oreo htc 10
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reinaldoh27 said:
You need flash firmware ,i have stock oreo htc 10
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https://www.reddit.com/r/HTC10/comments/7psux8/download_link_for_htc_10_us_unlocked_ruu_3166172/
You have to buy the SunShine app and here's everything else you need: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=240838
errikosd said:
No and no.
The current Oreo RUU is probably a leak, thus not official.
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This explains the poor battery performance...
Why should anyone pay for the software. It should be free & optional donations. There should be another software than sunshine that other devs have released.
If it's free to flash an lg/samsung/sony than why would anyone pay for a software for HTC. Plus if your HTC bricks or you upgrade to another HTC you've gotta folk out another $25 (could be more depending on your country) each new HTC device you purchase. It's stupid and there should be a free software, just like there are for other brands of phones I've specified.
Stevo001457 said:
Why should anyone pay for the software. It should be free & optional donations. There should be another software than sunshine that other devs have released.
If it's free to flash an lg/samsung/sony than why would anyone pay for a software for HTC. Plus if your HTC bricks or you upgrade to another HTC you've gotta folk out another $25 (could be more depending on your country) each new HTC device you purchase. It's stupid and there should be a free software, just like there are for other brands of phones I've specified.
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Feel free to develop a free exploit you will be a GOD among men.
@beaups @jcase
Stevo001457 said:
Why should anyone pay for the software. It should be free & optional donations. There should be another software than sunshine that other devs have released.
If it's free to flash an lg/samsung/sony than why would anyone pay for a software for HTC. Plus if your HTC bricks or you upgrade to another HTC you've gotta folk out another $25 (could be more depending on your country) each new HTC device you purchase. It's stupid and there should be a free software, just like there are for other brands of phones I've specified.
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Would love to see a free way to bypass/disable secure boot on a modern lg/samsung/sony, I haven't. I've seen some very private, and VERY expensive tools to do so.
because donations wouldn't cover 1/10th of the cost of development.
What is stupid is the amount of complaints we see with people saying it is stupid. If you don't like it, do what we did. Develop your own. Invest your time, energy and money into it. Then give it away, but don't complain when donations don't even cover your phone costs, let along your other equipment, the specialized software, or your time.
Sloth said:
Feel free to develop a free exploit you will be a GOD among men.
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No complaints here, I encourage him to do it.
Stevo001457 said:
Why should anyone pay for the software. It should be free & optional donations.
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Do you work for free or for optional donations only?
Do you tell every developer their software should be free or only some? What is the standard? What is your basis for deciding who should get paid and who shouldn't?
Do you know S-OFF isn't required for flashing custom ROMs on this device? I'm S-ON and for a good reason: it's more secure (against malicious code and user error) and it has kept me from flashing a problematic, unreleased, misreported htc ROM (the leaked Oreo for US Unlocked; official release has still not happened yet).
Andrew7Henry said:
Is there any way to s-off my device for free without sunshine app
Secondly should i be s-off to be able to install official oreo
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No. The alternative is more expensive, as it requires purchasing hardware (and the expertise to use it).
Secondly, IF there's an official Oreo for your variant, no, you don't need to be S-OFF; that would be silly since the point of S-ON is to prevent unofficial non-htc-signed firmware from being flashed to the device's critical partitions. There is not an official Oreo build for US Unlocked (617), for example, contrary to what's been misreported.
Well that's your opinion mate, I'm not implying the software is stupid. I'm saying if it's not free then it should be a one time cost, regardless of how many HTC devices you own . I own the LG v20 as well as the HTC 10. It was extremely easy to flash another rom on my v20. No cost or anything, just download LG Up, have the kdz file for the firmware and away you go but it's a hassle on the 10, seeming there's no other workaround to downgrade your firmware.
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Would love to see a free way to bypass/disable secure boot on a modern lg/samsung/sony, I haven't. I've seen some very private, and VERY expensive tools to do so.
because donations wouldn't cover 1/10th of the cost of development.
What is stupid is the amount of complaints we see with people saying it is stupid. If you don't like it, do what we did. Develop your own. Invest your time, energy and money into it. Then give it away, but don't complain when donations don't even cover your phone costs, let along your other equipment, the specialized software, or your time.
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Well that's your opinion mate, I'm not implying the software is stupid. I'm saying if it's not free then it should be a one time cost, regardless of how many HTC devices you own . I own the LG v20 as well as the HTC 10. It was extremely easy to flash another rom on my v20. No cost or anything, just download LG Up, have the kdz file for the firmware and away you go but it's a hassle on the 10, seeming there's no other workaround to downgrade your firmware.
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It is facts, not opinion.
You can flash htc devices without s-off, even easier than LG. So I dont even know what you are talking about, I dont think you do either.
If you dont like it, do it youself? We released a ton of free resources to get you up to speed, save you a lot of time and money, that we had to invest.
Look I'm learning here. I haven't had the 10 for long but don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. I found it straight forward to flash the LG and I wasn't aware that I could upgrade, downgrade with s-on
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It is facts, not opinion.
You can flash htc devices without s-off, even easier than LG. So I dont even know what you are talking about, I dont think you do either.
If you dont like it, do it youself? We released a ton of free resources to get you up to speed, save you a lot of time and money, that we had to invest.
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Stevo001457 said:
Look I'm learning here. I haven't had the 10 for long but don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. I found it straight forward to flash the LG and I wasn't aware that I could upgrade, downgrade with s-on
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How would you like me to word it? You are making factually incorrect statements?
I have guides for download htc without s-off here on XDA, just like with LG, it depends how they set some versioning info.
So basically I can upgrade/downgrade without s off but I can't flash a custom rom right?
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How would you like me to word it? You are making factually incorrect statements?
I have guides for download htc without s-off here on XDA, just like with LG, it depends how they set some versioning info.
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Stevo001457 said:
So basically I can upgrade/downgrade without s off but I can't flash a custom rom right?
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Search help section, you will find threads about waht s-off is and how to flash roms.
Oh so I can flash roms and such, as long as I have an unlocked bootlooder but to have the complete advanced experience such as flashing stock roms from another country other than mine you need s off. I'd like to apologise for my rant earlier, I was being hot headed
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Oh so I can flash roms and such, as long as I have an unlocked bootlooder but to have the complete advanced experience such as flashing stock roms from another country other than mine you need s off. I'd like to apologise for my rant earlier, I was being hot headed
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No worries, reactions like this is one of the reasons we charge, we got tired of putting up with people when we were burning time and money for nothing.
jcase said:
No worries, reactions like this is one of the reasons we charge, we got tired of putting up with people when we were burning time and money for nothing.
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Amen to that...why I got out of hardware and software sole-proprietorship, even with making money. Tech is fun. Customers are not.
Have to be big enough to hire the guy "who deals with the customers so the engineers don't have to".
Stevo001457 said:
Oh so I can flash roms and such, as long as I have an unlocked bootlooder but to have the complete advanced experience such as flashing stock roms from another country other than mine you need s off. I'd like to apologise for my rant earlier, I was being hot headed
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No, you don't. You can just wait for htc to release the stuff before flashing it and unlocking the bootloader strictly involves following htc's directions. Have you followed the instructions for whichever ROM you're wanting to flash?

Snapdragon root ever possible?

So I got a great deal from sprint about half off a S20u And I jumped thinking I'd be able to root it. it's already been 30 days and I'm going to return the device since I thought it would be able to be rooted. will a root ever be available. What device can I purchase from a US carrier that is able to be rooted and remove the bloat.
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So I got a great deal from sprint about half off a S20u And I jumped thinking I'd be able to root it. it's already been 30 days and I'm going to return the device since I thought it would be able to be rooted. will a root ever be available. What device can I purchase from a US carrier that is able to be rooted and remove the bloat.
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Don't hold your breath waiting for Samsung to offer an unlocked bootloader on any US variants. There are no US Carrier Branded or US Unbranded devices which can be unlocked. If you want no bloatware then the US Unbranded device is an option but if you need root you'll have to consider a Snapdragon International or Exynos Global variant. On these devices Carrier Aggregation and Warranty Repair would be challenging at best.
Dose one plus make devices that ship with unlockable bootloader?
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Dose one plus make devices that ship with unlockable bootloader?
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OnePlus 7 and 8 have bootloaders which can be unlocked.
Root
bman55 said:
So I got a great deal from sprint about half off a S20u And I jumped thinking I'd be able to root it. it's already been 30 days and I'm going to return the device since I thought it would be able to be rooted. will a root ever be available. What device can I purchase from a US carrier that is able to be rooted and remove the bloat.
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Will the bootloader be unlocked in the future, is that a possibility, haven't been on the forums in 7-8 years. This phone is incredible, but the bloatware makes it useless kills battery can't disable apps. Someone help im over 30 days and don't know if I wanna return. I'm paying $15USD/MONTH FOR 18 MONTHS with buyout for $250USD so it's quite an offer to refuse. But I need root access and a custom rom on THIS baby!
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Will the bootloader be unlocked in the future, is that a possibility, haven't been on the forums in 7-8 years. This phone is incredible, but the bloatware makes it useless kills battery can't disable apps. Someone help im over 30 days and don't know if I wanna return. I'm paying $15USD/MONTH FOR 18 MONTHS with buyout for $250USD so it's quite an offer to refuse. But I need root access and a custom rom on THIS baby!
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The only one who can answer this is a well placed Samsung Executive, certainly not a CSR. No one has a crystal ball in this regard but I doubt it's going to happen anytime soon. Bloatware is the downside when you acquire a Carrier Branded Device and the $$$ you saved lose their value in the long run. Nowadays most carriers offer decent pricing on month to month prepaid without a long term commitment. Better off IMHO to wait a few months for price drops and feedback before purchasing any device. Saving a couple hundred on a smartphone you really weren't suited for doesn't add up.
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Will the bootloader be unlocked in the future, is that a possibility, haven't been on the forums in 7-8 years. This phone is incredible, but the bloatware makes it useless kills battery can't disable apps. Someone help im over 30 days and don't know if I wanna return. I'm paying $15USD/MONTH FOR 18 MONTHS with buyout for $250USD so it's quite an offer to refuse. But I need root access and a custom rom on THIS baby!
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who ever said it wasnt possible?
Can you post some links or not.
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gavilan2010 said:
Can you post some links or not.
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if i could i would have already.. not my method and for other reasons im not posting any info on it at this time
elliwigy said:
if i could i would have already.. not my method and for other reasons im not posting any info on it at this time
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gavilan2010 said:
Can you post some links or not.
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elliwigy said:
who ever said it wasnt possible?
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What carrier is this?
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What carrier is this?
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sprint/tmobile
I have an unlocked S20 G981U, TMK (Metro mobile). My security update is still June 1st! Seriously?? What am I supposed to do with this? I can't root it, I haven't gotten updates. WTH is going on?
elliwigy said:
if i could i would have already.. not my method and for other reasons im not posting any info on it at this time
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So, your entire post was to show YOU have root, but not to provide any information at all on how you did it...when OP (and others, myself included) would like to know how it's done?
....thanks for nothing...
mistermidas said:
So, your entire post was to show YOU have root, but not to provide any information at all on how you did it...when OP (and others, myself included) would like to know how it's done?
....thanks for nothing...
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Well, it answers the OPs question, if it's legit.
mistermidas said:
So, your entire post was to show YOU have root, but not to provide any information at all on how you did it...when OP (and others, myself included) would like to know how it's done?
....thanks for nothing...
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point is to show its absolutely possible. And I cannot post something that A, isnt my method to post and B, its not allowed to be posted on xda. So take it how you want doesnt matter to me.
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So, your entire post was to show YOU have root, but not to provide any information at all on how you did it...when OP (and others, myself included) would like to know how it's done?
....thanks for nothing...
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Wow. Disrespecting elliwigy is not good. That guy has provided things for the public in the past and thats how you do him? Its because of people like you that xda gets tainted. Hell I wouldn't release it.
And one last thing:
ITS NOT HIS WORK TO SHARE!! READ
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Wow. Disrespecting elliwigy is not good. That guy has provided things for the public in the past and thats how you do him? Its because of people like you that xda gets tainted. Hell I wouldn't release it.
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ITS NOT HIS WORK TO SHARE!! READ
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Who are you, his girlfriend? Go away.
To me it just seemed like a post bragging about him having root when others can't get it and obviously wanna know to do so. But if he can't or won't share how he achieved it, then whatever...it is what it is. But nowhere did I see him say he needed you to defend him, especially AFTER he already responded.
I'm done with the topic now though... moving on...
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Who are you, his girlfriend? Go away.
To me it just seemed like a post bragging about him having root when others can't get it and obviously wanna know to do so. But if he can't or won't share how he achieved it, then whatever...it is what it is. But nowhere did I see him say he needed you to defend him, especially AFTER he already responded.
I'm done with the topic now though... moving on...
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Baby
mistermidas said:
Who are you, his girlfriend? Go away.
To me it just seemed like a post bragging about him having root when others can't get it and obviously wanna know to do so. But if he can't or won't share how he achieved it, then whatever...it is what it is. But nowhere did I see him say he needed you to defend him, especially AFTER he already responded.
I'm done with the topic now though... moving on...
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just because someone achieves something and let ppl know it is possible but cant provide details for understandable reasons such rules is not in any way bragging about anything.
I dont make the rules on here, in fact I support the rules and enforce them even considering I am a moderator.
Just because someone doesn't want to tell you details (because its simply not allowed) doesn't give you the right to judge people and post negatively about them in public. If you have any issues with me or anyone else I suggest you send them a PM next time.
Showing people that it is possible gives hope to those who feel it is imppssible and hopefully encourages them to keep at it.
I have no reason to lie to anyone and as you can tell uf you did any research on my past activities/posts you should see that every time I achieved root I posted freely to XDA so everyone could take advantage of it. So hopefully you understand if I could post publicly I would have already done so.
I did try to help people out and had them PM me and was advised not to do so even via PM because it is a paid service of which selling these types of services are not allowed on XDA. It is a paid service because the means to unlock the bootloader requires a purchase from a third party. There is no way to provide a "free" method as well as said service is device specific so there is no universal method and each unlock is tied to one device.
Think of it similar to those websites that offer sim unlocks. They are paid services tailored to one specific device. Paid services are not allowed on XDA since typically people use these methods to profit and in the past there have been a number of shady schemes hence why rules were formulated.
I hope this clears things up and you refrain from name calling and negatice remarks to people such as your last comment I quoted.
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Who are you, his girlfriend? Go away.
To me it just seemed like a post bragging about him having root when others can't get it and obviously wanna know to do so. But if he can't or won't share how he achieved it, then whatever...it is what it is. But nowhere did I see him say he needed you to defend him, especially AFTER he already responded.
I'm done with the topic now though... moving on...
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Instead of complaining take the initiative and hit someone up on telegram that you know has done this and im sure they would be glad to guide you too the proper place. Like elliwigy said it’s against xda rules to post such stuff here so why complain about it here. There are threads in s10 and s20 threads with people posting stuff for US unlocked bootloader phones. Hit those people up on telegram or outside of xda because people want too abide by the rules of xda and xda does not want this stuff posted on their forums.
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