I think it's funny there is a T-Mobile thread that says development when all the development gets posted on the HTC one m8 thread. Why is this? It's very confusing at times
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I feel the same way at times..
I agree that there.shouldn't be a t-mobile or att thread due to cross GSM compatibility. I think though it's not entirely useless as t-mobile does have WiFi calling
md1008 said:
I agree that there.shouldn't be a t-mobile or att thread due to cross GSM compatibility. I think though it's not entirely useless as t-mobile does have WiFi calling
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As does nearly every international Sense ROM. AT&T actually has other devs and power users so their forum belongs...ours is useless. Nothing but teenagers and noobs here. The rest use the international forum.
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I am just wondering why we haven't separated forums between gsm and cdma for the desire. It is a little confusing to find roms and help for cdma when it's all mixed together with gsm. Or is it just me, something i'm missing?
That's why we have this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328.
I think the numbers are just to low of people with cmda.
Lennyz1988 said:
That's why we have this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328.
I think the numbers are just to low of people with cmda.
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Thanks i did see this but its still not separated under desire's main forums and when i look for android development under desire it's still combined gsm and cdma. You are probably right though, the cdma numbers are probably too low. I guess i'm just an organizational freak and it just bothers me thats all.
I am a fellow cdma owner as well and also wish we had our own category lol
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parastatic said:
I am a fellow cdma owner as well and also wish we had our own category lol
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You could browse around over at www.teamuscellular.com. Even though this is mostly geared towards US Cellular customers, their phones are CDMA and most of the threads under the Android forums are people with the Desire (there are a few with Mesmerize too, but I find that most conversation is in regards to the HTC Desire CDMA).
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You could browse around over at . Even though this is mostly geared towards US Cellular customers, their phones are CDMA and most of the threads under the Android forums are people with the Desire (there are a few with Mesmerize too, but I find that most conversation is in regards to the HTC Desire CDMA).
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I'll give it a try. xda rocks though.
Thinking that the Development forum should be split into two
One for CDMA/LTE
One for GSM
Seems like that would solve the confusion and prevent potential bricks.
Firemedic said:
Thinking that the Development forum should be split into two
One for CDMA/LTE
One for GSM
Seems like that would solve the confusion and prevent potential bricks.
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I have to agree, it's quite painful to browse to find the correct version of things for the phone you have.
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I thought maybe I was a noob and didn't understand why they weren't splitting the forums. It seems like some GSM mods/roms/kernels work on the LTE, so you really have to go through trial and error to see what works?
Splitting would be far the easiest, though, unless developers have to maintain double the amount of threads which could be a pain.
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If it's going to be split, it needs to happen sooner rather than later, just because of people posting threads that accommodate both as time goes on.
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I agree too, but..... this isn't development and should be in General
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+ 1, I very much agree. At least different subforums.
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Please god yes.
Coming from the Nexus S forums...their's is split between the 4G and the GSM version and that makes it extremely helpful...please mod-overloards...SPLIT THIS FORUM LIKE MOSES SPLIT THE SEA
i agree too but the only problem is that a few things work for both cdma and gsm.
I agree
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doublea500 said:
i agree too but the only problem is that a few things work for both cdma and gsm.
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I use to have the incredible and incredible 2 and it was frequent to have roms made from the evo and other htc devices... doesn't mean I go to the evo forum for the rom. Even though you are right, the positives far out weigh the negatives here none the less.
Please do!
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I'd have to agree. And as for things that work on both, the author can post in both sections. That way they can field questions separately between the two, instead of having people with different devices posting in the same thread. Surprised this hasn't been done already.
Rabble rabble rabble.
Agreed! It could definitely clear up some confusion, even though I assume most members here are pretty smart.
I don't agree. What to do with general development threads, radio independent mods, etc?
Why not just "tag" the threads with [GSM] and [LTE] (like some devs already do).
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Bluediss said:
I don't agree. What to do with general development threads, radio independent mods, etc?
Why not just "tag" the threads with [GSM] and [LTE] (like some devs already do).
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? I don't get your point. There are no general development threads. Every mod is made for a specific model, they're not both compatible.
Radios are not cross-compatible. LTE radios only work with LTE. GSM .. same thing.
[GSM] and [LTE] are too disorganized. With two forums it makes things more organized and eliminates the chance of flashing something for the LTE when you have GSM (and vice versa).
Also, this is the wrong forum to be posting this. There are two other threads about this, we don't need another one.
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Why are we not getting any admin response to what majority of the community wants? What are the pros on cons? I'm no pro but maybe the admins know why there isn't one yet..
Since most of the posts here relate to GSM Nexus, is there a forum for us CDMA owners? ive been searching for it and cant find one.
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This is it. You're already here.
bow chicka wow wow.
deymayor said:
Since most of the posts here relate to GSM Nexus, is there a forum for us CDMA owners? ive been searching for it and cant find one.
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Huh? I wouldn't say a majority are related to the GSM Nexus...
Although some may think it'd help, it'd probably do more harm than good considering a LOT of the topics overlap between the 2, and model-specific threads are indicated in the title or 1st post. It keeps us from getting duplicate posts that would certainly crop up in separate General sections, and it gets more eyes on threads.
The Dev sections are separate, that's the only thing that matters.
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Since most of the posts here relate to GSM Nexus, is there a forum for us CDMA owners? ive been searching for it and cant find one.
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Yep, this forum is for CDMA and GSM Nexii alike.
If you post a thread though, just be sure to clarify which Nexus you're referring to.
The only difference between the CDMA n GSM are
Different radios (CDMA has a LTE Radio), size, and one is exclusive to only one carrier (till sprint releases theirs )
Other than that its the same phone n 90% if the issues will be mutual
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Yep, this forum is for CDMA and GSM Nexii alike.
If you post a thread though, just be sure to clarify which Nexus you're referring to.
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+1. Alternatively give all the relevant details in your signature so that you don't have to repeat the stuff in each post.
There is a dedicated Development forum but, here, we can all be brothers.
So are the General and QA posts going to be combed thorugh individually to find out which goes where?
No. As u can see every single general post was removed from each one
Edit: woops maybe not
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I can't be the only one that thinks all of them should have a combined "Galaxy S III Accessories" section.
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I can't be the only one that thinks all of them should have a combined "Galaxy S III Accessories" section.
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and the "themes and apps"
it was a very stupid move to split them
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and the "themes and apps"
it was a very stupid move to split them
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Yeah... AT&T should still get a decent amount of traffic considering how many of us there are.. but Tmobile, sprint are probably screwed
Also, they split the forums but STILL have it by the AMERICAN carrier name.
They need to have it by the model # name... ie AT&T would be the i747 instead. That way canadian users wont be confused either
This needed to be done. I support the mods in splitting these up.
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Yeah... AT&T should still get a decent amount of traffic considering how many of us there are.. but Tmobile, sprint are probably screwed
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I don't know about T-Mobile but I've had a Sprint phone and they surprisingly get some decent development going on for the Samsung/Evo phones. Not so much Photon for example, I don't know if they ever got anything good.
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and the "themes and apps"
it was a very stupid move to split them
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Sorry for the T-Mobile and sprint guys but I agree with the split. Coming from a galaxy s2 it was ridiculous to try and find att specific posts because there was just so much traffic. Not to mention if u posted a new topic, it would quickly get buried.
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Why in the world anyone would want to wade through so much mess to find something specific to your model is beyond me. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SPLITTING THE FORUMS!!!
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Sorry for the T-Mobile and sprint guys but I agree with the split. Coming from a galaxy s2 it was ridiculous to try and find att specific posts because there was just so much traffic. Not to mention if u posted a new topic, it would quickly get buried.
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I only agree with it for the Q&A and two dev forums. The rest should be together, all the accessories are now in the 9300 forum it seems. I certainly understand the problems, but some of that is because some people (developers included) didn't realize that things like CWM are different on different phones now, so we have people with IMEI problems who --appear-- to have used Sprint CWM on ATT phones (I would have been in that category but Samsung replaced my phone already).
Why do we have a T-mobile
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2279
and a regular SGS4 forums
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2162'
Aren't we T-mobile USA M919 people the same thing as SGS4 9505?
International version is the 19500 something something
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International version is the 19500 something something
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There's the International i9500 and the i9505... one is the octa-core and the other is the quad-core just like the m919. i9505 and m919 ROMs (all SGS4 models except the 9500, actually) are interchangeable so long as they don't include modems/baseband, etc...but who does that anyway? Oh, and the kernel; gotta use a kernel for your specific model...
Yeah.. I get everything you guys are saying, but my question is NOT "What kind of phones are out there"
My question is why do we have 2 forums, the T-mobile forum, and the other SGS4 forum... when we can all just go into the 9505 forum on xda..
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Yeah.. I get everything you guys are saying, but my question is NOT "What kind of phones are out there"
My question is why do we have 2 forums, the T-mobile forum, and the other SGS4 forum... when we can all just go into the 9505 forum on xda..
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Yea but think of how many problems this would cause because of the 3 or 4 things that are not compatible. Seems like its easier for newbies to just look for where they bought their phone and not have to worry about basebands, Kernels, Radio/Modems and any other incompatible firmware.
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Yea but think of how many problems this would cause because of the 3 or 4 things that are not compatible. Seems like its easier for newbies to just look for where they bought their phone and not have to worry about basebands, Kernels, Radio/Modems and any other incompatible firmware.
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I think things are bad as it is and I agree that 3-4 different S4 models in the same forums
is just asking for more problems and a lot more little shiny BRICKS! LOL
What I really would like to see though, and I am surprised that no one else mentioned it before me which is
the fact that there are two Tmobile M919 Forums, one for the "T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4 Original Android Development"
and the other for "T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4 Android Development".
At first when the the "Original Development" forums were created it was made clear to all the devs that all the CM10/AOSP/AOKP/MIUI
roms belong in the "Original Development" forums. (this held true for other brands and models of phones not just the S4)
And now for who knows what reason a lot of the CM10/AOSP/AOKP devs started using the "T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4 Android
Development" forum for all those AOSP/AOKP/CM10 roms so now they are all mixed together with the standard Touchwiz Jellybean
based custom roms.
Sometimes it's not very easy to even tell which is which unless we search real hard in the OP post of each roms thread.
I am surprised that none of the xda moderators here have said anything about it, and it's been going on now for a long time.
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I think things are bad as it is and I agree that 3-4 different S4 models in the same forums
is just asking for more problems and a lot more little shiny BRICKS! LOL
What I really would like to see though, and I am surprised that no one else mentioned it before me which is
the fact that there are two Tmobile M919 Forums, one for the "T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4 Original Android Development"
and the other for "T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4 Android Development".
At first when the the "Original Development" forums were created it was made clear to all the devs that all the CM10/AOSP/AOKP/MIUI
roms belong in the "Original Development" forums. (this held true for other brands and models of phones not just the S4)
And now for who knows what reason a lot of the CM10/AOSP/AOKP devs started using the "T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4 Android
Development" forum for all those AOSP/AOKP/CM10 roms so now they are all mixed together with the standard Touchwiz Jellybean
based custom roms.
Sometimes it's not very easy to even tell which is which unless we search real hard in the OP post of each roms thread.
I am surprised that none of the xda moderators here have said anything about it, and it's been going on now for a long time.
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Its because the ROMs in the original development section are built from source. The other section may be based on aosp ROMs but its not built from source.
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It all is very clear. Of everything is original development for original roms. Roms that have original coding and features. Everything else goes in the other development. It is not just a matter of being built from source. I could build an AOKP roms from source but it would not go in original development. As there is nothing original in the rom. Just a kang of someone else's work.
As for the OP question. The simplest and most straight forward answer is that people are stupid and can't read or do proper research before they decide to reprogram their device. So we have to separate them and give them less chance of screwing it up and then filling this development forum with tons of thread stating how they bricked their device and need help fast, like this is some support site.
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When the s3 came out last year, I remember that there was only one forum for the Intl and US variants, boy what a mess it was reading threads that does not relate to the tmo version or the att one. I'm glad xda realized it and separated it like how it is now. It is better this way and much easier to find answers or ask questions related to your specific device.
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on the international side roms are based off the international stock version.
Then you have the carrier branded sites for tmobile att verizon etc.. which have roms based off there respective carrier. So for us its based off tmobile rom with tmobile bloat ie wifi calling.
that at least my take.