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So guys I'm in a dilemma here I have both phones right now sealed in the box I don't know which one to keep and which one to sell. I'm in Canada so lte works on the nexus 4. What do you guys suggest ? Thanks
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I was in the same dilemma as well. If you don't mind the size, the Note 2 is the better choice. The Nexus 4 may get the faster updates but we're on xda anyway so pretty much any phone with a good community will get updates.
Personally, if I had a choice between those 2 phones, I would prefer the Note 2. I'm a bit biased because I've been with Samsung for so long and I don't trust any other brand other than them. LOL. But from an unbiased point, the Nexus 4 provides faster updates (as mentioned), the Krait processor, and it's Google. Note 2 has a bunch of useful features and now we have some very reputable and brilliant developers in our community which will jump start our development. There's even an Android 4.2 (WIP) coming for us!
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So guys I'm in a dilemma here I have both phones right now sealed in the box I don't know which one to keep and which one to sell. I'm in Canada so lte works on the nexus 4. What do you guys suggest ? Thanks
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Note 2 hands down...more features and great dev support.
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I've used both and ended up sticking with the note 2 there's nothing out there right now that can compare to its specs not even goggles own baby
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Did you ask this same question in the Nexus 4 section? lol...It's gonna be hard to get an unbiased opinion when you ask a question like that in a section specifically for one of the phones
Having said that, I had the LG Optimus G, and aside from the LG skin (which wasn't TOO horrible) it was a good phone, but I still promptly exchanged it for a Note 2 and don't regret it one bit. I have never had good experiences with LG phones. The display was beautiful though.
I have a note 2 and my buddy has a nexus 4. I thought the nexus 4 screen looks way better then note 2 screen hands down in my opinion. The build quality and feel of nexus 4 is also much better. However no removable battery no lte, and no sd card support are major deal breakers. 16gb is just not enough with games and apps installed. At least if they made a 32gb version.
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The nexus 4 has some attractive points. LTE maybe less of an issue if you in Canada. The screen is nice and it's a fast performer.
But for me the lack of MicroSD and non-removable is a no go for me. Not only is battery life on the Note 2 awesome, but I have a spare battery i can use if every needed. I also really like having the s pen and the 5.5" screen i greatly enjoy. The size of the note is not for everyone, I'm OK with it.
You have to decide how important each of these factors are to you. Once you do that I'm sure you'll be happy with your choice.
If note 2 was made by LG and nexus 4 by Samsung, I'd say go for nexus 4...
Personally I'm staying away from anything LG, I had enough gray hair with LG Nitro HD, thank you very much.
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If note 2 was made by LG and nexus 4 by Samsung, I'd say go for nexus 4...
Personally I'm staying away from anything LG, I had enough gray hair with LG Nitro HD, thank you very much.
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You're lucky you never tried the Thrill then...
I need more time before trying LG again. The guy at the AT&T store tried to get me to buy the Optimus G when the Note was not in stock yet. The nexus might be okay if LG isn't responsible for the software.
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When you ask such question in Note 2 forum, my feeling is that you are going to get some bias answer.
I have both phones, and I think both phone are top notch in their own way. Here's what I think:
Nexus 4
- Very solid build, the construction is as solid as iPhone. Feels great in hand.
- The display does produce some relatively accurate colour compare to my IPS displays. I do a lot of photo editing/viewing. On the other hand, the sAMOLED does throw the colour off a bit by over saturated (nature of AMOLED), with the "natural" profile on Note2, it does become closer to real colour. Pixel density on the N4 is also better, but it's not critical as the Note 2 display is pretty sharp with the sAMOLED HD.
- AOSP, AOSP, AOSP! If you aren't a fan of Touchwiz, this is what you should keep. Not just the updates, as they don't come everyday. It's the user experience. Samsung does add a lot of neat feature that many can't live without, but in my honest opinion, AOSP does provide a nice layout and great feature out the box. I am also not a huge fan of Samsung's oversized UI, either.
- Believe it or not, the on screen button is a very important "feature" of N4 - You now have a place to put your thumb when you hold the phone, especially when passing the phone to people to show them stuff...without accidentally touching any of the buttons. However, also because of the on screen button, you do lose some screen estate.
- Buttery smooth, yes, smoother than the "more powerful" Note 2
- The price - You are indeed getting a lot of phone for the price that you are paying.
- Battery is medicore, partially due to bugs of 4.2 I believe. Dead locks are draining the battery.
- Lack of SD card might be a deal breaker for you. It isn't for me.
- Camera sucks.
Note 2
- Huge display, this is probably the max that you can carry with the borderline portability. The display is beneficial for reading stuff, browsing, sharing contents with friends
- The battery is ridiculous. The size, with the power management of the software makes it unreal. I get average 2 hours of light/moderate usage per 10%, on LTE.
- Touchwiz - To use the full features of the Note2, you probably don't want AOSP. The S-Pen works well with touchwiz, and I find touchwiz works well with large displays due to the oversized UI elements
- Size - It's pocketable, but it's not extremely comfortable. Taking in and out, using it in public, talking on it looks very awkward. No matter how big your hands are, how big of a person you are, this IS larger than your average phone by a lot
- One hand usability - Samsung does have some one hand accessibility but in general, reaching for places around the screen is a struggle with one hand
- Great sound - Speaker, and headphone jack.
- Strong vibrator
- S Pen - Unless you have a use for it, it's a gimmick. It's fun to fool around with it, but the hype tends to die off quickly
- FAST charging. Nexus 4 is fast, but Note 2 is even faster consider it's massive battery. This is a very important feature to me.
- Impressive camera, but not that it's any/much better than that of SGS3
- Oh, if you don't have a 7" tablet yet, this should fill that gap a bit.
As it stands, Note 2 has some very attractive points to me, such as the large display for reading and the insane battery life that makes me not to worry about being close to a charger. However, I don't feel comfortable using it on a daily basis due to the size. WIth that said, I am using a Note 2 now as I gave my Nexus 4 (8GB) to my other half. I have a 16GB coming in a month, and I will re-evaluate it again by then.
These two phones are pretty much Android in it's best form in today's market, and they are not substitutable for each other due to the different nature of them. The phone war has evolved to beyond to the specs-war just like computing world. The "better specs" of Note 2 doesn't necessary determine whether the phone is better or not, and with that said, Nexus 4 specs is pretty impressive too. You need to pick your own base on your need
Hope it helps a bit with your decision! Any more specific questions you have that can help with your decision, just ask. It's a tough one to make.
Awesome thanks for the input its a huge decision I think of will end up keeping the note
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The Nexus 4 ultimately had too many drawbacks for me to consider it. The thermal throttling issues with the S4Pro processor, the non-swapable battery with less than stellar battery life, the limited storage without microSD expansion, the glass back prone to cracking, and no LTE. And now we find out that the Nexus 4 cannot support USB-OTG, so all those who bought one thinking they could move files over to an external drive are SOL. No USB keyboards/mice/Dualshock etc. Not a big deal if you have bluetooth peripherals, but I want to have as many options as possible. The Note II is a superhero in that regard...
I have the Note 2 and personally love it, but if you don't need the size, then nexus 4 is a much better option. I love the vanilla 4.2 JB and the screen is much crispier, any build quality is top notch [I have both phones]
If note 2 had a 1080 display then, I would so Note 2 hands down.
Get a quality BT headphone and you won't have to worry about how you look to other people...personally I really could give a rats behind how others think...but hey that's just me...
Nexus vs Note II...to me it all comes down to do you want the biggest best phone or a smaller phone that doesn't offer as much.
S-pen is there if you need it...and it's always better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
ASOP...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2046616..it has a few minor glitches...but if this is your thing...then enjoy it.
Smoothness...drop this one in...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2028661 add Nova launcher and tweak it...and your golden...
Memory card...your going to want one...just to fill up with all of the videos you'll be watching and music you'll be rocking to...
My advice...prop them both up side by side and watch any video on it...browse the internet..then ask yourself...which offers you what you want/need to enjoy it with
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Mac11700 said:
Get a quality BT headphone and you won't have to worry about how you look to other people...personally I really could give a rats behind how others think...but hey that's just me...
Nexus vs Note II...to me it all comes down to do you want the biggest best phone or a smaller phone that doesn't offer as much.
S-pen is there if you need it...and it's always better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
ASOP...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2046616..it has a few minor glitches...but if this is your thing...then enjoy it.
Smoothness...drop this one in...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2028661 add Nova launcher and tweak it...and your golden...
Memory card...your going to want one...just to fill up with all of the videos you'll be watching and music you'll be rocking to...
My advice...prop them both up side by side and watch any video on it...browse the internet..then ask yourself...which offers you what you want/need to enjoy it with
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Mac,
No offense but I think your post is pretty bias.
- Yes, you can always bring a BT headset, but shouldn't you be able to hold a phone comfortably on your face instead of having to depend on a BT headset in order to not look silly? Also, how about the people that don't like bluetooth headset in general?
- S-Pen, yes, it's better to have but at what cost? Size of the phone?
- Touchwiz isn't without it's own glitches, whether AOSP or not is a pure preferences whether it has bugs or not. I actually find touchwiz works well with GN2, AOSP won't.
- Smoothness, sorry, Note 2 just isn't as smooth as a N4 no matter what launcher you put in. It could be due to settings, but out the box even with Nova, it's not there.
- Memory Card - why must he get one?
I do agree with Note 2 having better specs, but the cost is the size. If you can live with the size and Touchwiz, there isn't a reason not to get Note2....but only if you can live with the size.
Cheers.
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shouldn't you be able to hold a phone comfortably on your face instead of having to depend on a BT headset in order to not look silly?
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Caring about what other people think of you holding a phone to your face reeks of insecurity to me. "Looking Silly" is the last thing that would sway me from buying an excellent device.
Remember how small phones used to be ten years ago? It wasn't that long ago when people also thought 3.5" smartphones were huge.
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Mac,
No offense but I think your post is pretty bias.
- Yes, you can always bring a BT headset, but shouldn't you be able to hold a phone comfortably on your face instead of having to depend on a BT headset in order to not look silly? Also, how about the people that don't like bluetooth headset in general?
- S-Pen, yes, it's better to have but at what cost? Size of the phone?
- Touchwiz isn't without it's own glitches, whether AOSP or not is a pure preferences whether it has bugs or not. I actually find touchwiz works well with GN2, AOSP won't.
- Smoothness, sorry, Note 2 just isn't as smooth as a N4 no matter what launcher you put in. It could be due to settings, but out the box even with Nova, it's not there.
- Memory Card - why must he get one?
I do agree with Note 2 having better specs, but the cost is the size. If you can live with the size and Touchwiz, there isn't a reason not to get Note2....but only if you can live with the size.
Cheers.
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Cy8888, that's funny you said Mac's post was biased because that's exactly what I thought when I read your long post above.
Remember, the OP asked what people thought and the reply's have been, for the most part, just that. Almost every statement you made in your lengthy post was "your opinion", certainly not facts. For example, I use the S-Pen daily and love it's added benefit and it, in my opinion, is not a gimmick as you stated.
So, no need to call out another forum members post when he is doing the same as you...giving his opinion as requested by the OP.:angel:
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Cy8888, that's funny you said Mac's post was biased because that's exactly what I thought when I read your long post above.
Remember, the OP asked what people thought and the reply's have been, for the most part, just that. Almost every statement you made in your lengthy post was "your opinion", certainly not facts. For example, I use the S-Pen daily and love it's added benefit and it, in my opinion, is not a gimmick as you stated.
So, no need to call out another forum members post when he is doing the same as you...giving his opinion as requested by the OP.:angel:
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I was bias because I love/have the Note 2 so much but the size, right?
What I said: "S Pen -Unless you have a use for it, it's a gimmick." - You do, so it's not a gimmick for you for sure. I know a few people that do have a use for it and I am impressed with how they make use of it for work purposes.
Which other point of my post is pure bias? I simply listed out the things I from with using both devices, I never said one is better for another for everyone. However Mac did say that "you are GOING to want one", "BUGS with 4.2", etc etc to just praise the Note 2. OP is trying to make a decision, and words like that aren't going to make his choice easier is it?
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Caring about what other people think of you holding a phone to your face reeks of insecurity to me. "Looking Silly" is the last thing that would sway me from buying an excellent device.
Remember how small phones used to be ten years ago? It wasn't that long ago when people also thought 3.5" smartphones were huge.
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I might have worded it wrong, but the fact that it's bigger than normal does draw attention. Yes, you can choose not to care about anyone thinks at all, but there are some actually "dont" want to draw that type of attention with a device. It is a fact that Note 2 is humongous, and that's ALSO it's selling point. Unless you have a need and can live with the size, otherwise you might want to look at other alternatives like SGS3 (which i have one sitting here also if you want comparison) that offers something in the middle.
I apologize if I've rubbed anyone the wrong way, wasn't the intention.
Cheers!
Long time lurker as you can tell but this M8 has me quite interested in jumping ship from my Nexus 5. Has anyone made this same jump? Regrets or thoughts? The Nexus 5 is a very bland but solid device, IMO. The One M8 looks pretty much awesome. Thanks for the replies.
Currently have been using the G2, N5, and now M8, the M8 is a great device, something about how it looks and feels makes me want to use it more, but I am also an AOSP fan, both the N5 and One are smooth when it comes to general usage, once AOSP is on my M8 I probably won't carry my N5 around.
I would say why not? The biggest thing you'll gain is far superior battery life. Well you'll get a MicroSD slot too, but that's almost useless unless HTC fixed the writing permissions. Or if you root (which is likely), you can manually fix it.
I decided to go ahead and order the developer version from HTC. The fact that the Nexus 5 is SO stripped of any kind software enhancements is one of the things I dislike about it while I love that theres none of the att bloat. Tried the Note3 but good grief is it huge. And while the stylus is cool I never, ever used it.
Ive had my Nexus rooted with custom rom up until it started rebooting all the time and just put it back to stock. Now the battery life and signal are back to horrible, lol.
Anyway, hoping the dev edition gives me the best of both worlds. Some of the HTC stuff but none of the bloat.
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I decided to go ahead and order the developer version from HTC. The fact that the Nexus 5 is SO stripped of any kind software enhancements is one of the things I dislike about it while I love that theres none of the att bloat. Tried the Note3 but good grief is it huge. And while the stylus is cool I never, ever used it.
Ive had my Nexus rooted with custom rom up until it started rebooting all the time and just put it back to stock. Now the battery life and signal are back to horrible, lol.
Anyway, hoping the dev edition gives me the best of both worlds. Some of the HTC stuff but none of the bloat.
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Yep! The Moto X is also pretty great, and I've considered cancelling my M8 order for a DE one. I used it in store and it's actually really nice. Probably gonna stick with the M8 because it's so much newer though XD
I think about to switch from my "Nexus 5" to the "HTC One M8", but I'm not sure yet. Is it worth it in your opinion?
It looks really very elegant, but does it runs just as smooth without bucking like the Nexus?
Does anyone have a direct comparison between the two phones?
How about if you start games or apps, is the HTC faster?
It has really nice features, such as with the tap to the screen.
How it looks with the battery power? Does it last as long as the Nexus? Or is it even better?
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I think about to switch from my "Nexus 5" to the "HTC One M8", but I'm not sure yet. Is it worth it in your opinion?
It looks really very elegant, but does it runs just as smooth without bucking like the Nexus?
Does anyone have a direct comparison between the two phones?
How about if you start games or apps, is the HTC faster?
It has really nice features, such as with the tap to the screen.
How it looks with the battery power? Does it last as long as the Nexus? Or is it even better?
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Depends so much on what do you want from phone. Gf has N5 and I have M8. My battery lasts longer, her device gets faster updates, both have about same kind of camera quality but not in the same way etc etc. If you want a flagship device you get M8 but if you already have N5 I'd wait for the prices to drop or maybe Nexus 6 or some other new model.
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I think about to switch from my "Nexus 5" to the "HTC One M8", but I'm not sure yet. Is it worth it in your opinion?
It looks really very elegant, but does it runs just as smooth without bucking like the Nexus?
Does anyone have a direct comparison between the two phones?
How about if you start games or apps, is the HTC faster?
It has really nice features, such as with the tap to the screen.
How it looks with the battery power? Does it last as long as the Nexus? Or is it even better?
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I am very happy with my Nexus, but HTC looks very high quality and has a newer processor. But my Nexus is not old, so I do not know if it's worth it at all.
One reason to buy it would be the front speakers and the Unibody
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I made the move from the Nexus 5 to the M8 and I can tell you without a doubt that the experience on the M8 is greatly superior to the Nexus 5. I used to love the bare-bone nature of the Nexus/GPe device but since using this new M8 with the new Sense 6 I have been converted to the HTC way of using android.
Also the build quality and feel of the device on its own just did it for me. The Nexus 5 has been a great device for the last 6 months but it is no comparison for the way the M8 looks and feels. I'm usually the first in my circle of friends and family to get a new phone and since my purchase of the M8 on launch day I can assure you that everyone has been admiring my M8 with envy (this includes all the Apple lovers).
The camera on the M8 is brilliant to mess about with and the user interface is extremely well thought out compared to the stock android interface. BUT I can confirm that in reality the camera quality is not even on par with the Nexus 5 never mind the S4 that my other half uses. I am a photography enthusiast and own loads of DSLR's and can inform you this with some expert knowledge.
Now the battery life on the M8 just blows the Nexus 5 to pieces. I can easily go full day and half of M8 use, this is in comparison to me only getting 3/4 of a day from the Nexus 5.
In conclusion my Nexus 5 has hardly seen use since the day I got the M8 and will soon be finding a new home with one of my friends. My advice would be to upgrade and you will not be dissapointed.
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I've had my M9 for 2 days now, and I'm starting to see things that are disappointing to me. Especially for such a high end, pricey device. Battery life is not very good at all compared to my old LG G2. And it takes forever to charge. The camera is, for lack of a better word, horrible.
I'm trying to decide if I should return it to T-Mobile in exchange for a Galaxy S6. All the reviews I've read and watched lean toward the S6.
Tell me why or why not?
Base on the reviews, only the hardcore HTC fans are going to choose M9 over the S6.
Quite honestly if you have a chance to return the phone I suggest you should.
I have a feeling this phone will be a complete flop and will probably put the nail in the coffin.
I'm personally going to wait a few weeks after this phone hit the bargain bin before I make a purchase.
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I've had my M9 for 2 days now, and I'm starting to see things that are disappointing to me. Especially for such a high end, pricey device. Battery life is not very good at all compared to my old LG G2. And it takes forever to charge. The camera is, for lack of a better word, horrible.
I'm trying to decide if I should return it to T-Mobile in exchange for a Galaxy S6. All the reviews I've read and watched lean toward the S6.
Tell me why or why not?
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Have you ever had a Samsung phone? I have a Galaxy S4 and from I've experienced, touchwiz has got to be the most laggy skin. I can't go ten minutes without my phone freezing up for a few seconds. Not to mention, the battery life on it is awful. Also, if you ever want to root or flash your phone, I'd stay away from Samsung. Rooting is possible if you have an unlocked bootloader (which you should because it's T-Mobile) but since the GS6 is using an in-house processor that is locked down, roms like Cyanogen mod aren't supported. Lastly, you have to pay much more to get a higher storage capacity GS6 because there's no SD card slot. Of course, all of these things may not matter to you but I for one am tired of buying phones but not owning them. I will be buying an unlocked HTC One M9 straight from HTC. That way, I don't have to put up with the carriers anymore and I can truly do whatever I want with my phone. Hope this helps.
It's always a risk getting a new phone, but have to say the M8 was a more solid phone than the M9 in many ways.
As for Samsung, they are very laggy and tend to annoy me over time. The camera of the S6 will blow the M9 away, so if that's your focus then go for it.
*drum rolls* looks like M8s is on the way. Just when you thought the party was almost over. I have lost words for HTC by now.
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All the reviews I'm reading say that Samsung has optimized touchwiz and it's very fluent now, and the battery, although smaller than the M9's, is much better due to the CPU.
Sense man.. For me it's always been that that has cut the decision...
I can't go on any other launcher, i just don't like them.. Used to Sense (and TouchFlo) so much now that i just cannot switch anymore..
Guess you could call that a reason for you too if the launcher is anything important to you.
Sense, really? Choose a sub par device in pretty much every category because Sense is really that good? NOT
I think if I could put the M9's speakers into the S6, my choice would be a no brainer.
The LG G2 is an anomaly when it comes to battery life. Heck, they couldn't even replicate it with the G3. If battery life is your singular focus then stay with the G2. But you can't expected the G2 to be the baseline going forward for comparison.
I've had the G2. I've had the Nexus 5 and I'm on day 2 of the M9. The M9 blows those 2 phones out of the water in terms of the smoothies of operation. It isn't even close. I'm sure the hardware of the S6 will provide for similar possibilities but I am going to have to read a lot of reviews the says that this is a new TouchWiz for Samsung before I believe that that phone will not bog down in software over time.
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Sense, really? Choose a sub par device in pretty much every category because Sense is really that good? NOT
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Subpar in every category? That's nonsense.
Samsung Galaxy S6 vs HTC One M9: Turning the Tables: https://youtu.be/z5tqAaXkRv8
Just one thing to add: If you're looking to the S6 for battery life, look again. My S6 has some HORRIBLE battery drain, and it seems like most people have it. Software updates are definitely needed.
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Sense, really? Choose a sub par device in pretty much every category because Sense is really that good? NOT
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I would choose an HTC any day over that hideous mess they use to call touch wiz.
Gs6 has an exynos processor. Good luck getting bug free aosp roms on that. Many devs stopped deving for exynos devices because of how closed they are. Things need to be hacked together pretty badly and even then it doesn't work fully. Samsung is much more closed than qualcomm is. So I would pick what you call a sub par device that has a processor that a lot of devs are familiar with deving for (qualcomm in general not the 810) and quite honestly I'd pick an iPhone over a Samsung device. That's how much I despise their UI.
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Base on the reviews, only the hardcore HTC fans are going to choose M9 over the S6.
Quite honestly if you have a chance to return the phone I suggest you should.
I have a feeling this phone will be a complete flop and will probably put the nail in the coffin.
I'm personally going to wait a few weeks after this phone hit the bargain bin before I make a purchase.
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I went with the M9 and I'm not a HTC fanboy. Yes I have had the m7 and m8 but also during that time I've owned countless other phones. I'll give anything a shot except Samsung. I don't mind using a Samsung note 10.1 but I will only use it for notes. But not for anything else
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I would choose an HTC any day over that hideous mess they use to call touch wiz.
Gs6 has an exynos processor. Good luck getting bug free aosp roms on that. Many devs stopped deving for exynos devices because of how closed they are. Things need to be hacked together pretty badly and even then it doesn't work fully. Samsung is much more closed than qualcomm is. So I would pick what you call a sub par device that has a processor that a lot of devs are familiar with deving for (qualcomm in general not the 810) and quite honestly I'd pick an iPhone over a Samsung device. That's how much I despise their UI.
I went with the M9 and I'm not a HTC fanboy. Yes I have had the m7 and m8 but also during that time I've owned countless other phones. I'll give anything a shot except Samsung. I don't mind using a Samsung note 10.1 but I will only use it for notes. But not for anything else
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Say what you want but me and most consumers I'm not going to pay a premium for device with 2014 hardware.
I'll wait 2 or 3 months and wait for the carriers to slash the price of this humongous flop of a phone.
And if you think developers are going to develop for the M9, good luck. The M9 won't sell enough units to warrant any development.
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Say what you want but me and most consumers I'm not going to pay a premium for device with 2014 hardware.
I'll wait 2 or 3 months and wait for the carriers to slash the price of this humongous flop of a phone.
And if you think developers are going to develop for the M9, good luck. The M9 won't sell enough units to warrant any development.
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It will for sure get a more stable AOSP build than the S6 will. But THB I'm happy with Sense. For the first time I can say I like a skinned version more than stock. I'm not a fan of the overall look of stock lollipop(love stock KK though) and I think HTC did a nice job with Sense. The only way I would consider an S6 if there could an almost bugfree build of AOSP like many of the qualcomm devices. With Samsung, the camera will never work right, other UI things will never work fully because of how closed Samsung keeps it. And I don't need anyone else to develop for it. Anything I want to do I can do on my own just fine and if I can't... I learn . I was making a point that people pick phones for many reasons, I personally hate touchwiz. I look at Samsung's UI and I just want to puke. I do think it's a really nice piece of HW, It would have been better with a Qualcomm chip that way you can ditch TW and at least have a decent stock experience but that won't happen with the exynos chip.
M9 has faults yes. But tweak ability is great. I have the m9 in my hands and my gf the s6. Ill take the m9 anytime over the s6.
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All the reviews I'm reading say that Samsung has optimized touchwiz and it's very fluent now, and the battery, although smaller than the M9's, is much better due to the CPU.
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Not the first time Samsung has made that claim. Touchwiz is an abomination.
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Not the first time Samsung has made that claim. Touchwiz is an abomination.
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First in my experience the M9's battery is very decent (haven't looked at stats or sot) but I'm a heavy user and it lasts me the day which is all that matters.
The Camera on the M9 is not terrible but the optics on the S6 are better.
The build & design of the M9 is subjective obviously we all have different likes, but for me HTC still has the S6 beat here. The S6 is a huge step up from any previous Samsung phone though.
The fluidity well when I tested side by side both are very nice here and are very very fast, Samsung has the better option to quick launch the camera.
Sense & touchwiz well for me who is tired of the latter sense is the better of the two, and blinkfeed is also better than I forget Samsung's thingie lol
Theme manager this is miles ahead of Samsung's attempt.
Storage, well the M9 being 32gb base storage is fantastic & expendable, S6 you loose this option.
Boomsound & audio, well obviously HTC has this as front facing audio is always going to be better, but the quality is the best I have experienced on any phone & I have had quite a few. Headphones this applies to but can't compare with the S6 so I don't know, but assume the M9 is better.
Each phone has plus points and negatives, for me though the M9 was the better choice for my liking.
I have had a lot of Samsung devices and just think all round despite the M9's flaws its the better phone (for me).
Both are great devices and Samsung has done very very well with the S6 & Edge.
If a phone doesn't meet your needs or you think its poor then your under no obligation to keep it, return for what will put a smile on the face
Alright I have the M8 currently, going to upgrade today or within the week/month. I love my M8 right? I also love how I can flash stuff on it (I have Verizon sadly), but I was thinking, theres really only a few things I use with S-OFF requirements and I'm not sure if its really worth buying the M9 just for those when the S6 has so many more things to offer that I may actually use, I am aware of one thing however, TouchWiz will never match Sense/Stock android in speed, my phone runs AOSP though it was Sense 6 for a long time, both are blazing fast. I did take a chance to use the S6 however and it was quite fast in comparison to previous models. I'm just really having a hard time deciding, the new S6/Edge look quite innovative vs the refining path of the M9, it's sort of attracting me but I'm not sure if I'm making a mistake. Before my M8 was the S4 and I HATED it, but the S6 is a different case, new less crap look and faster (faster vs older galaxies)+ more features. Not sure what I want to do. Any advice? I upgrade yearly so whatever I choose I am stuck with for the coming year.
S1L3nTShaDoWz said:
Alright I have the M8 currently, going to upgrade today or within the week/month. I love my M8 right? I also love how I can flash stuff on it (I have Verizon sadly), but I was thinking, theres really only a few things I use with S-OFF requirements and I'm not sure if its really worth buying the M9 just for those when the S6 has so many more things to offer that I may actually use, I am aware of one thing however, TouchWiz will never match Sense/Stock android in speed, my phone runs AOSP though it was Sense 6 for a long time, both are blazing fast. I did take a chance to use the S6 however and it was quite fast in comparison to previous models. I'm just really having a hard time deciding, the new S6/Edge look quite innovative vs the refining path of the M9, it's sort of attracting me but I'm not sure if I'm making a mistake. Before my M8 was the S4 and I HATED it, but the S6 is a different case, new less crap look and faster (faster vs older galaxies)+ more features. Not sure what I want to do. Any advice? I upgrade yearly so whatever I choose I am stuck with for the coming year.
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Well I praise the M9 yes its somewhat moderate of an upgrade from the M8. HTC are getting a lot of heat for what they produced.
However I am not an all out spec junkie, and what the M9 provides is great for me.
Positives are and I will include the Camera as I like to play around with settings and once you do its very acceptable, but admittedly not on par with the S6
The Sense 7 skin is great & themes are fantastic.
The M9 is fast & fluid and I haven't had any overheating or lag or any hiccup really.
The Audio is superb and best I have experienced on any device to date.
The battery is on the better side of average at least in my experience.
The build and in hand feel is again fantastic.
Micro SD card expansion.
The S6 is a beautiful build also with better optics and no doubt with ois steadier in video capture.
Its really your call and you may want to jump on the hype bandwagon or you may see sense
you can always get a s6 and try it out. samsung usually holds their value better. so if anything you can always trade someone off cl or so for a m9 + cash on their end. just a thought that you won't be stuck on one device forever lol.
s6 edge makes me want to buy it with all the hype and that stupid super camera they put in there's. but development will most likely keep my interest in m9.
Duncan1982 said:
Well I praise the M9 yes its somewhat moderate of an upgrade from the M8. HTC are getting a lot of heat for what they produced.
However I am not an all out spec junkie, and what the M9 provides is great for me.
Positives are and I will include the Camera as I like to play around with settings and once you do its very acceptable, but admittedly not on par with the S6
The Sense 7 skin is great & themes are fantastic.
The M9 is fast & fluid and I haven't had any overheating or lag or any hiccup really.
The Audio is superb and best I have experienced on any device to date.
The battery is on the better side of average at least in my experience.
The build and in hand feel is again fantastic.
Micro SD card expansion.
The S6 is a beautiful build also with better optics and no doubt with ois steadier in video capture.
Its really your call and you may want to jump on the hype bandwagon or you may see sense
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you can always get a s6 and try it out. samsung usually holds their value better. so if anything you can always trade someone off cl or so for a m9 + cash on their end. just a thought that you won't be stuck on one device forever lol.
s6 edge makes me want to buy it with all the hype and that stupid super camera they put in there's. but development will most likely keep my interest in m9.
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I decided I'm going to go with the S6 or S6 Edge, will decide upon trying them both again. If I don't like it, i'll sell it on eBay and buy the M9 or something else if something potentially better is available by then. I sort of made this decision based on I realized the only thing I've really done with my M8 being S-OFF is LiquidSmooth and a few root things, and of course TWRP backups but since I won't be doing ROM's on this it won't really be necessary and besides I can always use that half-4$$'ed version they have for locked phones. Anyways gonna give Samsung a go again, as I said if I don't like it, M9 here I come! If I do and miss my M8 i'll just switch between phones a lot. All ways are a win and I get to try the S6 for an extended time.
I'm looking for a new phone on a budget and I was wondering if you guys still recommend this phone.
I'm coming from a HTC One m7 and I'm looking for the sound. I'm enjoying the earphone DAC of my old m7 and I'm an audiophille.
But some drawbacks make me think about an iphone 6 or even an s6. Mainly, the camera. Is it really that bad? I was searching on flickr for shots and they don't look as bad as the reviews say it it. And also, it will continue development. I mean, with android 7.0 just released, it will get it officially, or even a bug-less cm build? Any good mods or anything at all that can attract me to buy this device? Leave your opinion here and thanks for helping my buying choice.
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I'm looking for a new phone on a budget and I was wondering if you guys still recommend this phone.
I'm coming from a HTC One m7 and I'm looking for the sound. I'm enjoying the earphone DAC of my old m7 and I'm an audiophille.
But some drawbacks make me think about an iphone 6 or even an s6. Mainly, the camera. Is it really that bad? I was searching on flickr for shots and they don't look as bad as the reviews say it it. And also, it will continue development. I mean, with android 7.0 just released, it will get it officially, or even a bug-less cm build? Any good mods or anything at all that can attract me to buy this device? Leave your opinion here and thanks for helping my buying choice.
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Short answer? Not a chance - purely from a development standpoint, the HTC M9 has been a staggering disappointment. We have some great folks working on AOSP-based and stock-based ROMs, but there simply isn't the breadth of development that exists for previous HTC One models. I'm not optimistic about the M10 either.
That said, the M9 is getting Android 7 (Nougat) from HTC, so we're not entirely behind the times with software updates, despite being slow (standard practice for non-Nexus devices). It is even possible that development of ROMs will continue to grow. Still, I would recommend waiting for the next Nexus phones (rumored to be released in October) and see how they compare to the current options on the market.
(As for the camera - I've never had any complaints, but I'm a pretty basic user on that front)
blurhns said:
I'm looking for a new phone on a budget and I was wondering if you guys still recommend this phone.
I'm coming from a HTC One m7 and I'm looking for the sound. I'm enjoying the earphone DAC of my old m7 and I'm an audiophille.
But some drawbacks make me think about an iphone 6 or even an s6. Mainly, the camera. Is it really that bad? I was searching on flickr for shots and they don't look as bad as the reviews say it it. And also, it will continue development. I mean, with android 7.0 just released, it will get it officially, or even a bug-less cm build? Any good mods or anything at all that can attract me to buy this device? Leave your opinion here and thanks for helping my buying choice.
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I don't really recommend this phone either. If you're looking for a budget phone... definitely go with the Nexus 5X/6P or One Plus 3 or any sub-$400 phone and put a skin over it (i.e. dBrand/Slickwraps). The sapphire screen on the back camera of my HTC One M9 has already cracked under not a whole lot of pressure applied to it some time ago and it would be silly of me to send it back to HTC to get it fixed as it'll crack again probably soon after. Camera is at best, 'meh' when it's in auto; I have the tendency to always grab photos in manual mode since I can make the photo more beautifiul. When this phone is in my hand with my pinky at the bottom holding it straight, my pinky starts to hurt because of its weight. Battery has been pretty good as I don't have a ton of apps running in the background only the ones I use daily (i.e. Snapchat, Hangouts, Maps, Messenger, etc.) but for other hardcore people who load apps onto their phone like mad... this would drain your battery pretty quick. Also YouTube videos drain the battery pretty quick from my experience LOL. If you have any questions about it, I'll try my best to give you an unbiased opinion. I still don't feel like I need to switch phones after having bought this phone on release day but quite honestly, I don't see how I could recommend anyone getting the M9 in 2016 even if it has gotten cheaper.
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Short answer? Not a chance - purely from a development standpoint, the HTC M9 has been a staggering disappointment. We have some great folks working on AOSP-based and stock-based ROMs, but there simply isn't the breadth of development that exists for previous HTC One models. I'm not optimistic about the M10 either.
That said, the M9 is getting Android 7 (Nougat) from HTC, so we're not entirely behind the times with software updates, despite being slow (standard practice for non-Nexus devices). It is even possible that development of ROMs will continue to grow. Still, I would recommend waiting for the next Nexus phones (rumored to be released in October) and see how they compare to the current options on the market.
(As for the camera - I've never had any complaints, but I'm a pretty basic user on that front)
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Thanks a lot for your reply. I can see why you can't recommend it, but I can't wait since I don't have a phone anymore. I was thinking about the Nexus 5x since i'm on a low budget but i heard it's not stereo speakers and the audio jack quality is pretty pour. i think i'll go with the iphone 6/se in the end.
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I don't really recommend this phone either. If you're looking for a budget phone... definitely go with the Nexus 5X/6P or One Plus 3 or any sub-$400 phone and put a skin over it (i.e. dBrand/Slickwraps). The sapphire screen on the back camera of my HTC One M9 has already cracked under not a whole lot of pressure applied to it some time ago and it would be silly of me to send it back to HTC to get it fixed as it'll crack again probably soon after. Camera is at best, 'meh' when it's in auto; I have the tendency to always grab photos in manual mode since I can make the photo more beautifiul. When this phone is in my hand with my pinky at the bottom holding it straight, my pinky starts to hurt because of its weight. Battery has been pretty good as I don't have a ton of apps running in the background only the ones I use daily (i.e. Snapchat, Hangouts, Maps, Messenger, etc.) but for other hardcore people who load apps onto their phone like mad... this would drain your battery pretty quick. Also YouTube videos drain the battery pretty quick from my experience LOL. If you have any questions about it, I'll try my best to give you an unbiased opinion. I still don't feel like I need to switch phones after having bought this phone on release day but quite honestly, I don't see how I could recommend anyone getting the M9 in 2016 even if it has gotten cheaper.
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I can relate to the weight issue. I hated to hold my m7 for more than 5 mins. Can't even watch youtube in bed because my hands would start hurting. And about the battery, my m7 drained it's battery in 1+1/2h of sot. that's so poor. and i changed the battery twice. I enjoy HTC only for the acoustics, but as I said earlier, i think i'm going with the 6/se for it's dac performance and mostly "just works" theory. I'm kind of sick of android and it's optimization.
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Thanks a lot for your reply. I can see why you can't recommend it, but I can't wait since I don't have a phone anymore. I was thinking about the Nexus 5x since i'm on a low budget but i heard it's not stereo speakers and the audio jack quality is pretty pour. i think i'll go with the iphone 6/se in the end.
I can relate to the weight issue. I hated to hold my m7 for more than 5 mins. Can't even watch youtube in bed because my hands would start hurting. And about the battery, my m7 drained it's battery in 1+1/2h of sot. that's so poor. and i changed the battery twice. I enjoy HTC only for the acoustics, but as I said earlier, i think i'm going with the 6/se for it's dac performance and mostly "just works" theory. I'm kind of sick of android and it's optimization.
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The iPhone 7 & the new 'nexus' phones are right around the corner; I suggest you wait a bit before then. I have used an iPhone 6 for several months prior to getting the M9 and to be honest the fingerprint sensor on it is REALLY unreliable when you have the slightest amount of water or dirt on your finger (and quite slow and worked maybe 75% of the time with a super clean thumb). The SE model uses the old fingerprint sensor found in the iPhone 6 so it'll be as equally as bad. My ex had the iPhone 6 for a while and the battery literally crapped out less than a year so be sure that if you're planning to buy a used iPhone 6 off of Craigslist or another similar website, that it is still in 'decent' condition. Your option for the 6 is either a 16GB iPhone (~10GB of space) or a 64GB (~59GB of space) so if you need more than 10GB, a 64GB iPhone in good condition will still set you back ~$600-650.
Only reason why I ended up coming back to android was because I felt iOS was really basic at best and I truly did miss the customizing aspect of android. I recommend just buying a used phone to use for a month or two off of Craigslist that's ~$100 and purchase the newer phones (iPhone 7 or Nexus) after they have been released.
A compromise might be purchasing a used smartphone to tide you over until the new wave of Nexus phones and iPhones come out. A bit of purgatory, but it might work in your favor.