I noticed my glass panel is very slightly (0.5mm ish) coming out on the bottom-right hand of the device. Is this normal? It isn't loose (I applied some medium pressure to try to "snap it" to the same level of the rest of the glass but it didn't move at all).
I don't think that is normal at all. Mine looks recessed on all the edges. Meaning the outer frame sticks out past the glass surface (very slightly).
Luxferro said:
I don't think that is normal at all. Mine looks recessed on all the edges. Meaning the outer frame sticks out past the glass surface (very slightly).
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Same here,
although the left side is a little lower then the right.
I don't know if its .5mm, but the bottom right side is definitely slightly higher than the other corners
BTW this is on the GSM version (Canada) bought from Virgin Mobile.
Upon looking closely, the glass is actually thicker on that corner so that's why it's popping so I'm not too worried about it being loose. 0.5mm is about half a CD/Dvd's thickness so it's really minor.
I'm just wondering if it's a glass manufacturing defect or if it's intended on certain models. I think it's probably a very minor defect because of the curved nature of the glass.
After 3 hard falls on the floor in half an hour - the left corner of the metal frame has been seriously damaged. This with a couple of other small scratches made me wanting new panel. I think the front and back panel are part mounted to the metal chrome frame, so I need full body, can anyone tell me where can I found new one and what is the cost?
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After 3 hard falls on the floor in half an hour - the left corner of the metal frame has been seriously damaged. This with a couple of other small scratches made me wanting new panel. I think the front and back panel are part mounted to the metal chrome frame, so I need full body, can anyone tell me where can I found new one and what is the cost?
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It is surprisingly affordable (less than $30 USD). Several like this on Ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Full-Housin...ltDomain_0&hash=item3cc070eece#ht_3839wt_1163
Why dont you buy a metal bumper instead? There is a review posted and it looks really nice.
Well, initially I received my phone and was so happy about the premium feel of the metal band surrounding the sides of the phone. Today I'm carefully looking at the quality and noticed that if you look inside any of the ports it appears the " metal" stops immediately after the surface and a hard, almost ceramic looking material is underneath. Anybody else notice this? Maybe they got really good at their "metallic finishes and found a very hard machinable plastic, because the more I look at that chamfored edge, the more it looks like chrome paint.
The whole phone itself is not made out of aluminum. There is a mix of other metals(magnesium) and plastics, along with an aluminum band around it. Also, aluminum itself is not shiny like the chamfered edge, and only shows as being shiny/mirror-like finish due to the machine cut.
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The whole phone itself is not made out of aluminum. There is a mix of other metals(magnesium) and plastics, along with an aluminum band around it. Also, aluminum itself is not shiny like the chamfered edge, and only shows as being shiny/mirror-like finish due to the machine cut.
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I would like to belive that but working in a machine shop I know what metal is. Unfortunately it's quite apparent that it's painted plastic if you look at the bottom of the phone where the sPen goes in. they smoothed the edge out and rubbed the paint off showing white plastic underneath. If there is metal there it's a paper this sheet of it. I'm afraid they have once again fauxed it up again. I do think it is a vastly improved look but still plastic.
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I would like to belive that but working in a machine shop I know what metal is. Unfortunately it's quite apparent that it's painted plastic if you look at the bottom of the phone where the sPen goes in. they smoothed the edge out and rubbed the paint off showing white plastic underneath. If there is metal there it's a paper this sheet of it. I'm afraid they have once again fauxed it up again. I do think it is a vastly improved look but still plastic.
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Alright, here's the facts since you don't believe what I said:
The note 4 consists of 2 chassis-
-The first chassis is made of an aluminum-magnesium allow called magnalium(which also includes small traces of tin/copper/ nickel) and is used to mount the processors and other heat conducting hardware.
-The second chassis consists of plastic and has an aluminum band around the perimeter(the one you see from the exterior). This plastic chassis is mostly used as a scaffolding to hold any extra hardware/accessories(Spen) that do not conduct heat.
The magnalium gives it strength.
The plastic keeps it light.
The aluminum gives it looks.
I can't ask for a better combination.
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Alright, here's the facts since you don't believe what I said:
The note 4 consists of 2 chassis-
-The first chassis is made of an aluminum-magnesium allow called magnalium(which also includes small traces of tin/copper/ nickel) and is used to mount the processors and other heat conducting hardware.
-The second chassis consists of plastic and has an aluminum band around the perimeter(the one you see from the exterior). This plastic chassis is mostly used as a scaffolding to hold any extra hardware/accessories(Spen) that do not conduct heat.
The magnalium gives it strength.
The plastic keeps it light.
The aluminum gives it looks.
I can't ask for a better combination.
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I do agree it should hold up nice but if there is aluminum there it's just a thin foil sticker over the plastic frame. I assume you don't have one to see for your self. If you do, just look in the ports and you'll see the white plastic.
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I do agree it should hold up nice but if there is aluminum there it's just a thin foil sticker over the plastic frame. I assume you don't have one to see for your self. If you do, just look in the ports and you'll see the white plastic.
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Lord I really wanted to come here and flame you as a hater... but I actually did look at the phone and your sorta right. The metal band on the outside is really thin (at least at the ports). BUT I don't care much and I don't think it is a screw up on the part of Samsung, I think it is a over statement on the part of the reviewers.
There is a metal structure inside the phone. It is significant compared to prior all plastic phones. It provides strength and rigidity as pointed out by the other poster. The aluminum band on the outside is clearly only decorative. However, I don't recall Samsung saying anywhere that the band on the outside was the only metal on the phone? Kinda reminds me of the wood panels on old station wagons.
I like the look, and its a very solid feeling device. So no matter how you break it down, its not an all plastic phone, and it is made of metal... including metal highlights on the finish.
No drama here.
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Lord I really wanted to come here and flame you as a hater... but I actually did look at the phone and your sorta right. The metal band on the outside is really thin (at least at the ports). BUT I don't care much and I don't think it is a screw up on the part of Samsung, I think it is a over statement on the part of the reviewers.
There is a metal structure inside the phone. It is significant compared to prior all plastic phones. It provides strength and rigidity as pointed out by the other poster. The aluminum band on the outside is clearly only decorative. However, I don't recall Samsung saying anywhere that the band on the outside was the only metal on the phone? Kinda reminds me of the wood panels on old station wagons.
I like the look, and its a very solid feeling device. So no matter how you break it down, its not an all plastic phone, and it is made of metal... including metal highlights on the finish.
No drama here.
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I don't doubt the chassis inside the phone is metal and as far as durability goes it definitely won't bend easily, but I just wish they would give up the simulation of materials. I mean they went as far as to simulate the breaks in the metal band like an iPhone. Other than that it is one beast of a phone that I will be able to live with just fine. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't the only one to notice it.
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I don't doubt the chassis inside the phone is metal and as far as durability goes it definitely won't bend easily, but I just wish they would give up the simulation of materials. I mean they went as far as to simulate the breaks in the metal band like an iPhone. Other than that it is one beast of a phone that I will be able to live with just fine. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't the only one to notice it.
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I have read that the gaps in the metal are not a copy of the iPhone, they are there so that the metal band doesn't interfere with the radio signals.... Sounded fishy to me, but I am skilled at little and and expert of none, so who am I to judge.
looks like its cast, and clad in.. whatever the shiny material is..
metal, plastic, rubber, whatever.. I never did see the big deal over "omg its a plastic bezel" vs "omg its a metal bezel"
The phone is forged from the tears of a thousand kittens and merged with unobtanium.
This thread implies the world is full of idiots and Samsung's misleading people on a grand scale. Don't you think at least one professional reviewer would have noticed that the promised metal was plastic? Hell, a gap that has to be measured with calipers became front page news.
From the Note 4 announcement press release...
The Galaxy Note 4 introduces a new sleek and stylish Galaxy design language. The device features a premium metal frame with fluid curvature that seamlessly blends with the device display. The Galaxy Note 4’s 2.5D glass screen, inherited from the Galaxy S3, offers extra protection while perfectly complementing the device’s rich viewing experience. A soft-textured back cover provides incredible comfort that makes it easy to control with one hand. The device not only looks beautiful, but offers a superior grip and enhanced durability.
Time to take off the tin foil hats.
You guys are hilarious. Plastic is a better material than metal, it's more durable. If it makes my phone better who cares, at least it won't bend in my pocket.
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This thread implies the world is full of idiots and Samsung's misleading people on a grand scale. Don't you think at least one professional reviewer would have noticed that the promised metal was plastic? Hell, a gap that has to be measured with calipers became front page news.
From the Note 4 announcement press release...
The Galaxy Note 4 introduces a new sleek and stylish Galaxy design language. The device features a premium metal frame with fluid curvature that seamlessly blends with the device display. The Galaxy Note 4’s 2.5D glass screen, inherited from the Galaxy S3, offers extra protection while perfectly complementing the device’s rich viewing experience. A soft-textured back cover provides incredible comfort that makes it easy to control with one hand. The device not only looks beautiful, but offers a superior grip and enhanced durability.
Time to take off the tin foil hats.
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You mean a massive electronics giant such as Samsung wouldn't have an overpaid marketing division that just might embellish on the truth a bit. I got it guys. We'll just call it a "premium metal frame" brilliant! Like I said, it's a fantastic phone but the outermost bezel is in no way anything more than aluminum foil and paint.
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You mean a massive electronics giant such as Samsung wouldn't have an overpaid marketing division that just might embellish on the truth a bit. .
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Saying it's metal when it's not isn't an embellishment, it's misrepresentation. Saying it's premium is an embellishment.
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Saying it's metal when it's not isn't an embellishment, it's misrepresentation. Saying it's premium is an embellishment.
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Premium is an opinion word and not verifiable either way.. and yes, it DOES have a metal frame. Have you ever seen the phone?!?!? The metal band around the outside might be what they consider the frame... and its there. The significant metal framework might be the frame they are talking about (and I bet it is) and its definitely there. What is this conversation even about?!?! There is metal in and around the phone. Just like they said. If you want more, then go get yourself the aluminium pop can called the iPhone and be happy, then go bend it in half in your pocket. Personally, this phone is rock solid compared to my Note 2.
You know what... I definitely see what the OP is talking about. The metal sides look to be about as thin as a piece of paper. Not that I really care that much... I'm putting a plastic case on it anyways but it's an interesting observation
Damn!
Sadly enough it's true, and a bit disappointing as well. If you look really closely what appears to be antenna breaks are just where they interrupted the faux machine cut which now just looks to be a metalized paint job to make it look like that. This is specially noticeable around where the S Pen enters the phone. Still love my phone but why does Samsung try to fools us like this and then sell it like it is a premium metal! Should of told everyone it is metalized plastic frame!
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Have you ever seen the phone?!?!?
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I own it . Given the choice between chrome-look ripply plastic made to poorly resemble a book edge (Note 3) and a beveled partial metal bezel with not even the slightest of gaps where metal and plastic meet (Note 4) I choose the latter. Option 3, the one people here are looking for, seems to be a 100% polished metal bezel. Unless I missed a meeting that option's not available. Whatever the definition of "premium," the Note 4's a hell of a lot closer than the Samsung phones that preceded it (except the Alpha which uses the same design). I'm a glass half full kind of guy. I celebrate what I have rather than lament what I don't. To each their own.
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I do agree it should hold up nice but if there is aluminum there it's just a thin foil sticker over the plastic frame. I assume you don't have one to see for your self. If you do, just look in the ports and you'll see the white plastic.
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I don't disagree with anything you said, and know exactly what you're talking about because I've seen what you're saying on a display model(mine should be here on monday). But, I believe it looks like that because of a miix of how the the frame is attached to the plastic, and the quality of paint used on the trim and plastic. Have you noticed what appears to be a small patch underneath the paint where the white line of plastic joins the aluminum sections around the band? Each section has a patch from every Note 4 I looked at. I love the note 4, but I've already spotted many quality issues with it. If I wanted a top-notch quality phone, build-wise, I would look at the iPhone, but in the grand scheme of things, the Note 4 is perfect for me regardless of its build quality flaws. Anyways, speaking of thin aluminum...the iPhone 6!
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I don't disagree with anything you said, and know exactly what you're talking about because I've seen what you're saying on a display model(mine should be here on monday). But, I believe it looks like that because of a miix of how the the frame is attached to the plastic, and the quality of paint used on the trim and plastic. Have you noticed what appears to be a small patch underneath the paint where the white line of plastic joins the aluminum sections around the band? Each section has a patch from every Note 4 I looked at. I love the note 4, but I've already spotted many quality issues with it. If I wanted a top-notch quality phone, build-wise, I would look at the iPhone, but in the grand scheme of things, the Note 4 is perfect for me regardless of its build quality flaws. Anyways, speaking of thin aluminum...the iPhone 6!
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Ya I see that raised section between the bars as well. After looking much closer it looks like some sections of the frame may be in fact aluminum. Possibly they used a similar method to mold plastic with aluminum as HTC did with the ONE M7 and then painted over everything to make it look like one piece. I guess we won't know until someone really dissects this thing. In the mean time I'm really enjoying this beast from the fantastic camera to the amazing screen quality.