Moto 360 Philippine Discussion - Moto 360

Mabuhay!
Have you brought this watch?
And what do you think about it?
This will serve as a forum for us who are interested in buying the Philippines.
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Yep. Got mine the other week. Have two Cookoo watches and a Qualcomm Toq. Since I got my 360, I haven't touched the Cookoo watches and the Toq. Best smartwatch I've had so far. This is how smartwatches should look - round. I have over thirty mechanical watches which I haven't worn since my first Cookoo watch late last year. So far, so good with my 360. I'm hooked...

vagabond67 said:
Yep. Got mine the other week. Have two Cookoo watches and a Qualcomm Toq. Since I got my 360, I haven't touched the Cookoo watches and the Toq. Best smartwatch I've had so far. This is how smartwatches should look - round. I have over thirty mechanical watches which I haven't worn since my first Cookoo watch late last year. So far, so good with my 360. I'm hooked...
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How much did you get it? I brought this watch last week at 12,500php. So far with their latest update, I never encounter lag and battery issues.
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edwaine said:
How much did you get it? I brought this watch last week at 12,500php. So far with their latest update, I never encounter lag and battery issues.
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Lucky you. I'm guessing you bought direct because that's the equivalent of list price plus sales tax in the US?
I got mine for the equivalent of Php14,600 landed cost here from a US seller. So far, with the latest update, no issues here either. I'm using mine with a Note 3 running 4.3.
Was somewhat antsy while waiting for my 360 to ship here with all the initial dismal feedback regarding short battery life issues and dead pixels, but I was stoked to find mine with no dead pixels and an average battery drain of around 3% every hour. That's translates to over 30 hours of longevity. Since I turn it off every night, I am able to get two to two and a half days use. No match vs my Qualcomm Toq which can last a week since I also turn it off every night when it was my daily beater before I got the 360.
Loving the third party watch faces on Google Play. I stay with minimal designs to avert disastrous battery drain. I also stay away from Facer since it appears to be a battery hog. Probably they'll be able to iron it out when the APK is released.
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vagabond67 said:
Lucky you. I'm guessing you bought direct because that's the equivalent of list price plus sales tax in the US?
I got mine for the equivalent of Php14,600 landed cost here from a US seller. So far, with the latest update, no issues here either. I'm using mine with a Note 3 running 4.3.
Was somewhat antsy while waiting for my 360 to ship here with all the initial dismal feedback regarding short battery life issues and dead pixels, but I was stoked to find mine with no dead pixels and an average battery drain of around 3% every hour. That's translates to over 30 hours of longevity. Since I turn it off every night, I am able to get two to two and a half days use. No match vs my Qualcomm Toq which can last a week since I also turn it off every night when it was my daily beater before I got the 360.
Loving the third party watch faces on Google Play. I stay with minimal designs to avert disastrous battery drain. I also stay away from Facer since it appears to be a battery hog. Probably they'll be able to iron it out when the APK is released.
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Nope I just brought it 2nd hand from olx.ph. He only used it for 2 weeks and then he brought an iPhone 6 Plus.
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So...is it even worth buying still?

Garbage battery life...I mean just pathetic. Yet it's so beautiful... How did this go wrong?
That stuff aside. Is the watch worth getting? (Serious)
I dunno man, it sounds to me like the battery, although not amazing, is not as bad as initially reported.
As with any tech device, the first couple charges are not at its peak performance.
As for me, the first one I bought sold on ebay so I'm gonna get another to keep, for free!
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I dunno man, it sounds to me like the battery, although not amazing, is not as bad as initially reported.
As with any tech device, the first couple charges are not at its peak performance.
As for me, the first one I bought sold on ebay so I'm gonna get another to keep, for free!
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Free?
I mean... How can they claim 24 hours of battery? the best I am seeing is like 9.
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Free?
I mean... How can they claim 24 hours of battery? the best I am seeing is like 9.
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I sold the first one I got for 500 so its essentially free to me if i buy another one.
Battery has lasted me since 5am this morning, it is now 5:30 pm here, and I still have 26%. Good enough for me. I have loved every second of it, and highly recommend it.
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Battery has lasted me since 5am this morning, it is now 5:30 pm here, and I still have 26%. Good enough for me. I have loved every second of it, and highly recommend it.
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Are you a lite or heavy user?
I have only had it for 24 hours total. I have screen off. Off charger since 615AM today and its now 240PM. Moderate use, playing with faces, reading and sending about 20msgs total...reading news on it....and its at 44%. I am going to give it a full week before I make up my mind on it. If it can go a full day, then I am happy with it. I knew going in it wasnt going to be 2+ days of usage. Its not a Pebble. It has an AMAZING screen.
PS. Even with the screen off, I have had 10+ people ask me what watch that is. It is a beautiful watch. And some of the people asking having 10k+ watches that they are wearing and said it looked better than theirs. Imagine once some better faces come out for it.
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Are you a lite or heavy user?
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Probably somewhere between. I'm a huge clock watcher, so I check frequently. And there was a fair bit of showing off today too
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I shall get one...BUT IF THY'S BATTERY SUCKETH...It shall goeth back.
Battery sucks if you drive or cause the acelerometer to pop constantly. Take your watch off before you drive until they have a car mode. Driving 3 hours is the only way I killed it within 16 hours.
I'm asking myself this question too, and I'm tending towards "No." Motorola need to have a very quick rethink, and rework this thing with a CPU that is on a newer process, and preferably a higher charge-density on the battery pack too.
Shoving a five-year-old, inefficient 45nm processor from 2009 (http://newscenter.ti.com/index.php?s=32851&item=125993) into a 2014-15 season smartwatch was a terrible, terrible idea. We should be on a 22nm or perhaps even a 14nm process by now. 45nm is a 2007 process, and it's hopelessly inefficient compared to today's tech.
There's a reason we didn't have smartwatches in 2007-2009, and making one in 2014 with technology from then is insanity.
knoxploration said:
I'm asking myself this question too, and I'm tending towards "No." Motorola need to have a very quick rethink, and rework this thing with a CPU that is on a newer process, and preferably a higher charge-density on the battery pack too.
Shoving a five-year-old, inefficient 45nm processor from 2009 (http://newscenter.ti.com/index.php?s=32851&item=125993) into a 2014-15 season smartwatch was a terrible, terrible idea. We should be on a 22nm or perhaps even a 14nm process by now. 45nm is a 2007 process, and it's hopelessly inefficient compared to today's tech.
There's a reason we didn't have smartwatches in 2007-2009, and making one in 2014 with technology from then is insanity.
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The SoC is only one component in what is a cohesive design. Is it a weak spot? Sure. Is it a deal breaker? Maybe. I'll have to wait til mine gets here to give it a good testing and see how it works for my lifestyle. But from what the majority of people are saying, the way I will likely use it, I'll get plenty of battery life and a quality, smooth user experience even with the old SoC.
So, seems to me, if my needs are met as a consumer it doesn't matter much what timestamp is on the chip.
pfroo40 said:
The SoC is only one component in what is a cohesive design. Is it a weak spot? Sure. Is it a deal breaker? Maybe. I'll have to wait til mine gets here to give it a good testing and see how it works for my lifestyle. But from what the majority of people are saying, the way I will likely use it, I'll get plenty of battery life and a quality, smooth user experience even with the old SoC.
So, seems to me, if my needs are met as a consumer it doesn't matter much what timestamp is on the chip.
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Battery life from most user reports and early reviews is pretty dismal, and that's when the watch is brand new. Unless you plan on replacing it every 12 months, you need to be thinking about battery life not now, but once the battery has degraded for 18 months or two years -- by which time you're going to be needing to recharge in the middle of the day.
For a $100-150 product, this would be great. For $250 to $300 depending on strap, it's totally unacceptable.
Yeah I can't believe they went with that old POS processor....the videos I've seen of the watch lagging just make me cringe, it could have been so much better! Was it really that hard to put a Snapdragon 400 in there? And I was really hoping for a higher PPI screen, or at least AMOLED.
However, I still will be getting one. I know it will die quicker and lag more than a LG G Watch, but damnit at least it'll look good while doing it.
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at least it'll look good while doing it.
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This. 1000x this.
I would rather have my 360 and charge it daily than have a brick on my wrist that lasts a few days.
I loved my Pebble, but it was not one bit attractive. Its an easy trade off to make. I charge my phone daily, I charge my laptop daily, what's the problem with charging a watch daily?
I'm kinda disappointed with the SoC they have chosen and the not as good battery life.
But I'll get one anyway cause it just looks really sexy.
I have no problems with battery life. 14 hours off the charger yesterday evening, I was at 50%. Better than my phone battery. Ambient mode off, moderate use.
I've chuckled at a few comments in this thread... Unacceptable this, unforgivable that, this is the first android watch worth buying so far. Its the first that actually looks like a ... Oh dare I say watch and something a normal non-ubernerd would wear. Its like the ecogeeks that love how all the prius' look. The industry finally got to the point you could drive a hybrid without looking like you're actually out hugging trees. I have the watch there is no unbelievable epic lagging and even if there was some lag... Its a watch. Not a quad core 3 gb ram uber phone but a watch. Sure they could have gone with a better chip but battery life is typical for an android watch for the most part. It isn't some great travesty and moto cover up a lot of cost likely went into the design creation and marketing of this watch and as such some corners had to be shaved. If they had put in a better chip and if they could have fit a bigger battery in you'd have a larger watch ... Wait for the omgs flying at that point or a $100 price difference that again y'all would be whining about. I love it could it be better yes but that's where version 2 and 3 come in. What phone do you own for 2+ years.... None you upgrade why would a first edition smartwatch be ANY different?
^ I echo a lot of this. The majority of people including myself could not even conceive what goes into developing a product like this. Since when did everyone become so spoiled lol. There's a computer on your wrist! It's an amazing feat! If you want the perfect device then wait a few years, in the meantime I'm gonna enjoy an incredible piece of tech
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^ I echo a lot of this. The majority of people including myself could not even conceive what goes into developing a product like this. Since when did everyone become so spoiled lol. There's a computer on your wrist! It's an amazing feat! If you want the perfect device then wait a few years, in the meantime I'm gonna enjoy an incredible piece of tech
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Because it is a waste of materials and very obvious spoon feeding of tech. Using an old processor? Why? Just recycle them an use a current one.
This has nothing to be with being spoiled, this has to do with principle. Why on earth make a nice new product with old under powered tech? It is a waste of a product.

Battery Life?

Got my ZenWatch yesterday and charged it up and used it all day today.. but after just 13 hours - the battery was down to 5%. Most of the reviews I've read suggest 24-36 hours of use.
Anyone else finding the batteries are a little light?
Give the battery a bit of time to settle in. And plus your using the watch a bit more intensively than designed for.
I would be very interested how you'll go after a few days, and a few charge cycles.
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Got my ZenWatch yesterday and charged it up and used it all day today.. but after just 13 hours - the battery was down to 5%. Most of the reviews I've read suggest 24-36 hours of use.
Anyone else finding the batteries are a little light?
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The reviews are definitely biased. Mine dropped 50% in only 4 hrs with brightness sett to minimum. Totally dissatisfied with this watch. The performance doesn't even come close to matching the looks.
my wife takes it off the charger at 7:30. When I looked last night around 12:00, it still had 35%. She has it always-on and I think brightness at 3...
I did notice that it seem to disconnect from her phone at a shorter distance than my moto would. Both watches connected to note 4s.
Here is something to think about. I had the moto 360 and returned it primarily do to battery life. Had it for two weeks and hoped it would get better but I would take it off the charger at 530 am and it would be dead before 5 pm sometimes even early afternoon. I got this watch set it up and charged it over night. Took it off the charger at 530 and it was dead by noon the first day. Second took it off the charger at 530 and it lasted until 5. I was thinking I would have to return it but yesterday I took it off at 530 am and at 11 pm it still had 13%. I have been going always on, brightness at 2 or 3. I get a ton of email and text. What I'm saying is maybe it's too early to tell....I got two full days with the gear neo but it just wasn't as cool.
The battery life is excellent here.
One of the review says the battery is horrible if you have "unlock my phone" feature checked on Zenwatch manager. So try to deactivate that feature and try it.
The battery life on my Zenwatch is excellent. I am confident that it will last me the whole day even with active use.
Usually there may be some 3rd party apps that can drain the battery, such as incompatible watch Face.
Couldn't be happier with the battery life! Getting through a full 12-16 hour day with plenty to spare.
Seems like the better battery life is holding up. Took it off the charger at 530 and it is now 10 and I still have 18%.....haven't changed my habits. Won't last even close to two days. But one full day is acceptable.
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Give the battery a bit of time to settle in. And plus your using the watch a bit more intensively than designed for.
I would be very interested how you'll go after a few days, and a few charge cycles.
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I think you're right - on day two, I'm at 33% after the same time elapsed. I actually don't use it too intensely and I leave the brightness at 1. We'll see how it goes over the next week.
kinged said:
One of the review says the battery is horrible if you have "unlock my phone" feature checked on Zenwatch manager. So try to deactivate that feature and try it.
The battery life on my Zenwatch is excellent. I am confident that it will last me the whole day even with active use.
Usually there may be some 3rd party apps that can drain the battery, such as incompatible watch Face.
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Definitely, in fact, I removed all the Wear apps from my phone because Wellness was killing my phone's performance, then when I noticed the Watch still thought it was using Wellness, I factory reset the watch and reinstalled just a few apps and left things like 'unlock my phone' off... and it's doing better today.
Thanks everyone for the input.
Keep us updated
I'm waiting for it to be released in Australia.. getting impatient.
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I unplugged my watch at 6:30 yesterday morning. At 7:30 pm it still had 63% left. I don't bother with any type of wellness app, at all. I don't bother with any type of 'find my phone' or 'find my watch' or phone unlocking app. I don't use the always on feature, but keep brightness on 3 due to being outside quite often. I use the watch strictly for notifications, and replying to Hangouts messages via the voice input. I have 3 weather locations set in Google Now that all show on my watch, and I play Words With Friends with a dozen different people. Between all that, plus emails, texts and calls I get 100s of notifications throughout each day. To have 63% left at the end of the workday is very acceptable. I could easily go out after work till the wee hours of the morning without any worry of the battery giving out before I do.
Mine goes all day and evening with plenty of juice to spare. I have taken no measures to preserve the battery. I use it to unlock my moto x as well. No issues with battery life that I have seen after 3 days of using the watch.
After the first day of crappie battery life. I am getting a good 18 hours. I'm not doing anything either to preserve battery life. It is WAY better than my moto 360 experience. I usually only have 10 to 13 % left when I put it on the charger but I would charge every night anyway.
It's been good for me... I've been using it with the display always on plus one or more watch faces with weather. Gets me about 16 hours or so. I've been using turn by turn navigation plus media control quite a bit. I've also spent an hour or more playing with facer watch faces.
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My watch has now been off the charger for a little over ten hours and I still have 63% battery life left. Holy crap! Best battery life yet, by far, since I've had the watch. Guess it takes about a week to settle in. Couldn't be happier.
Update: It's now been about 13 hours off the charger, and my watch just hit 50%... Starting to think this 2 day battery life claim holds water... Very happy right now!
Much improved now... 14.5 hrs on constantly and I'm at 52%.. which means it should be good for another 14.5 hrs which is 29 hours total run time.
I only need 18 so getting 29 is more than excellent!
I think the battery "guestimate" needs a short while to settle in with such a small battery. The first couple days I actually saw my battery percentage go *up* 3-5% between checking it. When it's saying it's low the first few days you have it, it likely actually isn't.
One last note - as has been mentioned before - some apps can really just suck the watch's battery dry, even apps that seem like they shouldn't. I hope Goog gets a handle on this because there's no really good way that I can see to know in advance other than installing and checking battery use over a day.
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One last note - as has been mentioned before - some apps can really just suck the watch's battery dry, even apps that seem like they shouldn't. I hope Goog gets a handle on this because there's no really good way that I can see to know in advance other than installing and checking battery use over a day.
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Can anyone post anything they have done differently to get the better life. I'm getting close to 2 weeks with it, have seen it get better after it "settled in", but I'm still trying to get a little better. I can make it through the day, but usually only barely and I'm over the constantly fiddling with it part of ownership. I get maybe 50-60 notifications a day. I've tried uninstalling apps, trying to stick with stock watchfaces, it's really hard to tell.
I'm really looking forward to the next update so that I can see what apps are using the battery. I tried the Wear Battery App, but someone suggested they thought it was draining the battery itself. Just seeing if there is a consensus on what works and what doesn't. I have removed almost all the ASUS apps, the unlock one really helped a lot. Thanks.
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Can anyone post anything they have done differently to get the better life. I'm getting close to 2 weeks with it, have seen it get better after it "settled in", but I'm still trying to get a little better. I can make it through the day, but usually only barely and I'm over the constantly fiddling with it part of ownership. I get maybe 50-60 notifications a day. I've tried uninstalling apps, trying to stick with stock watchfaces, it's really hard to tell.
I'm really looking forward to the next update so that I can see what apps are using the battery. I tried the Wear Battery App, but someone suggested they thought it was draining the battery itself. Just seeing if there is a consensus on what works and what doesn't. I have removed almost all the ASUS apps, the unlock one really helped a lot. Thanks.
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I have no such problem but a co-worker was having terrible drain and he uninstalled the Asus Zenwatch manager itself and it fixed his problem. Best advice I can give is to uninstall all the apps other than the android wear app, and maybe even kill it just to see what happens, and then slowly add them back in.
For comparison, I took mine off the charger at 7am this morning so after 12 hours I'm at 55%. I dim the display but don't turn it off. I'm using a nice face from the Intellicom app and I probably get several hundred notifications over the course of the day. I'm more than happy with this device.

Would you still buy the 1st gen now?

First off. Don't have a lot to spend so can't go getting a newer Moto 360, but I found one on CL for $80 great condition with screen protector. I used to have a 1st gen pebble a couple years ago and loved the notifications and alarms on it. I know that battery isn't great on android wear but if I can get through 10 hours working to read important notifications. Occasionally set an alarm. Etc, that would be good.
However, if in my position, would you still consider this first Gen Moto 360?
best buy
I bought mine at best buy the other day for $199
I have one, and honestly I would wait until Google sorts out the Wear app update issue that is going on right now.
The newest version of Wear breaks the 1st gen 360. Connection issues, battery drain, unstable as all hell. Wait until the latest reviews predominately say it works with the 360 1st gen.
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One question?
The 360 1st gen will receive the 1.4 upadate marshmallow ?
Tks
I just bought a new 1st gen a few days ago to replace the one that I broke. $150 on Amazon with free prime shipping. I didn't even consider any other smart watch. The other $300+ watches have no significant upgrades, in my opinion, compared to this one. They're slightly prettier (that Huawei watch is especially nice), but that's not worth at least doubling the price (more than that in the case of Huawei). Get this one, and get it soon. It won't be around much longer.
As for battery life, as long as you disable the fitness stuff, I easily get a full day's use out of it. Sometimes I'll go to bed with it at 25% battery. That's with ambient screen on, gestures on, and the screen permanently set to full brightness. Oh, and I also commonly use watchfaces that include animations, which is supposed to further drain the battery. No issues.
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I just bought a new 1st gen a few days ago to replace the one that I broke. $150 on Amazon with free prime shipping. I didn't even consider any other smart watch. The other $300+ watches have no significant upgrades, in my opinion, compared to this one. They're slightly prettier (that Huawei watch is especially nice), but that's not worth at least doubling the price (more than that in the case of Huawei). Get this one, and get it soon. It won't be around much longer.
As for battery life, as long as you disable the fitness stuff, I easily get a full day's use out of it. Sometimes I'll go to bed with it at 25% battery. That's with ambient screen on, gestures on, and the screen permanently set to full brightness. Oh, and I also commonly use watchfaces that include animations, which is supposed to further drain the battery. No issues.
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How in the world you get a full days worth, unless you talking through your ass... I have the fitness disabled and even all the minimums on the watch and by 4pm I'm at 15%. So there no way what you saying is truthful.
Now as should you buy the 1st gen sure... the 2gen is more or less the same except for the battery. Still worth the price you pay for it and I havent had any issues with the watch.
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How in the world you get a full days worth, unless you talking through your ass... I have the fitness disabled and even all the minimums on the watch and by 4pm I'm at 15%. So there no way what you saying is truthful.
Now as should you buy the 1st gen sure... the 2gen is more or less the same except for the battery. Still worth the price you pay for it and I havent had any issues with the watch.
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Depends what he considers a full day. 12-18 hours may be? I've everything on on my watch like gestures, fitness stuff etc and I get 18-20 hours of battery. With light use, I get through couple of days on a single charge.
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mohsinraza said:
Depends what he considers a full day. 12-18 hours may be? I've everything on on my watch like gestures, fitness stuff etc and I get 18-20 hours of battery. With light use, I get through couple of days on a single charge.
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sorry but i find that very hard to believe. I've had my 360 for three days now and each day from 7am - 3pm and then have to charge. Using min on the setting and barely use it
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How in the world you get a full days worth, unless you talking through your ass... I have the fitness disabled and even all the minimums on the watch and by 4pm I'm at 15%. So there no way what you saying is truthful.
Now as should you buy the 1st gen sure... the 2gen is more or less the same except for the battery. Still worth the price you pay for it and I havent had any issues with the watch.
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I take it off the charger around 10 AM, and I put it back on between 10 and 11 PM. So I suppose it's not technically 24 hours, but it is a full period of daylight. Maybe I spend less time staring at my watch than you do.
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I take it off the charger around 10 AM, and I put it back on between 10 and 11 PM. So I suppose it's not technically 24 hours, but it is a full period of daylight. Maybe I spend less time staring at my watch than you do.
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still i can not see how you could possibly last that long, I take mine off the charger at 7am and by 2:30pm I'm already at 25%. I've trying doing a factory reset and even reinstalled wear as some posts have suggusted cause they claim to have days worth of battery time. well thats all BS. still have pretty bad battery life. Think it's just normal
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still i can not see how you could possibly last that long, I take mine off the charger at 7am and by 2:30pm I'm already at 25%. I've trying doing a factory reset and even reinstalled wear as some posts have suggusted cause they claim to have days worth of battery time. well thats all BS. still have pretty bad battery life. Think it's just normal
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I don't know what to tell you. Maybe my previous 360 was just awesome. I just got my replacement today, so I'll report back on whether or not I get the same results.
thinking of email Motorola and checking with them, maybe I just got a fault battery
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I don't know what to tell you. Maybe my previous 360 was just awesome. I just got my replacement today, so I'll report back on whether or not I get the same results.
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I got a second hand moto 360 (for $100 but everything still new 10/10 condition), everything running minimum, no fitness stuff disabled, lowest brightness yet still bright enough for my liking, disabled WiFi, gesture on, ambient mode off, I usually take off the charger at 8AM and by end of the day when I get home around 8/9PM with moderate or light use I'd still have around 20-30% left. Been using that for about a week now and seems consistent. On latest 5.1.1 update too.
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I have one, and honestly I would wait until Google sorts out the Wear app update issue that is going on right now.
The newest version of Wear breaks the 1st gen 360. Connection issues, battery drain, unstable as all hell. Wait until the latest reviews predominately say it works with the 360 1st gen.
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I have the 360 1st Gen and have none of those issues with the latest wear.
I take it off charger at 7am then let it drop a couple of percent then charge it back until 8 am ( if I don't I'm 10% less at the end of the day) fitness enabled, ambient and tilt to wake on and I'm at 25% to 30% at 10pm.
Admittedly I'm not playing about with it all day.
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sorry but i find that very hard to believe. I've had my 360 for three days now and each day from 7am - 3pm and then have to charge. Using min on the setting and barely use it
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Check if you have some app draining the battery. Battery used to last only 10-12 hours maximum when I first got it back in July '15. Eversince I updated it to 5.1.1, battery life has doubled and it's been like this for the past few months.
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PolishPoet said:
I have the 360 1st Gen and have none of those issues with the latest wear.
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I have every one of these issues right now. I am on my second unit and will be sending this one back to Motorola. I'll be checking back in when I receive my replacement unit.
As to battery life, before all the issues started I could get 3-4 days out of my watch with moderate use. I had gestures and ambient screen off and I use one of the stock watch faces. I also don't wear my watch at night and would shut it off at about 11 pm. I used the fitness stuff (pedometer and rarely heart rate) and use the voice texting to respond to texts.
This is why I am so disappointed in the latest wear version.
I will go from 5:30am until I get home from work around 4pm with well over 50% left. I have all the fitness stuff running, the "tilt to wake" feature on, and a somewhat animated face. Generally I'll charge it for an hour in the evening, wear it to bed (in theater mode) so I can use it as a silent alarm, and then charge it for an hour or so before work to get it close to 100%. This morning I didn't charge it.
Ok so funny thing, I don't know what I did last night, cause I browse a few of the pages on this site and they stated about resetting you watch to factory setting and reinstalling wear. and for some reason now. now I seem to have enough juice for a day and a half. Weird so I guess. Either way 360 worth its money.
Apparently the issues are not as widespread as I thought.
The 360 1st Gen is a great smart watch, even with the issues, and you won't find one that does as much as cheaply. I love my watch. It allows me to control my phone without taking it out of my pocket.

losing 30% -40% battery overnight?

I was just wondering what is the normal battery drain amount, I can barely seem to get a day out of the battery... Last night I put it in airplane mode and theatre mode and it made no difference in battery, it went about 30% over 8 hours. During the day it's ever worse. I get anywhere from 7 to 15% battery drainage per hour. Somedays I can barely make it the entire day. Do I have a defective unit? what are you guys getting in terms of battery use in your watches. I have the latest android 6.0.1 and android wear 1.5.0.3044569 Build number M1D63G.
I purchased the watch about a week ago.
Battery drain pretty random in my case... my watch is also on M1D63G... awful update, hoping for a quick fix but I don't think it will come quickly.
No fix for maybe one year, so..........
dersie said:
No fix for maybe one year, so..........
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To be honest I'm waiting for Sony IFA 2016 which will be on Thursday and I really really REALLY hope they will introduce Sony Smartwatch 4 along with Xperia X Compact so I will be able to throw my hard-earned money right at their faces to buy this stuff
Not certain that Sony like Android Wear ?
I have noticed same thing with my SW3 and i think that is caused by watchface - in my case - watchmaker premium - i have been created my own watchfaces - nixie and flipclock from scratch - and mine SW3 also last about one day per charging. Try to change watchface to stock sony watchface and compare battery drain then - and ofc - let us know if that was the case.
I have a feeling Watchmaker watch faces tend to cause drain, not sure though since it seems a bit random.
I changed my watch face to stock one and the battery is at least somewhat better and lasts day & night.
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I have a feeling Watchmaker watch faces tend to cause drain, not sure though since it seems a bit random.
I changed my watch face to stock one and the battery is at least somewhat better and lasts day & night.
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I use watchmaker and Pujie black and the battery does indeed die faster when I'm on watchmaker. On Pujie I can go up to 1.5 days on a single charge with brightness on auto , gestures and all radios on. Might be a rogue app causing too much drain...maybe revert to stock then install an app a day to see what might be causing the drain?
I have 2 phones, and when I just use the watch not connected to the phone, I get a couple days of life, and the screen does not randomly turn on. I think the android wear app on the phone is causing the problems?
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Battery drain pretty random in my case... my watch is also on M1D63G... awful update, hoping for a quick fix but I don't think it will come quickly.
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Just got M1D63X, maybe that will be the fix?

Still a good idea buy a Pixel 2XL?

Hello Guys,
I'm going to USA in september, unfortunately I'll back to Brazil before the Pixel 3 launch.
Import from things in Brazil it's expensive, then I'll buy a cellphone in my travel, but I don't know if I buy a Pixel 2 XL or a Galaxy S9.
I'm would like to know if still worth it a Pixel 2XL.
Thanks.
Arbigaus said:
Hello Guys,
I'm going to USA in september, unfortunately I'll back to Brazil before the Pixel 3 launch.
Import from things in Brazil it's expensive, then I'll buy a cellphone in my travel, but I don't know if I buy a Pixel 2 XL or a Galaxy S9.
I'm would like to know if still worth it a Pixel 2XL.
Thanks.
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Pixel 2XL all the way.
Here's the latest similar XDA thread with info here
That's a good reference galaxys pointed you to. I sold my P2XL and bought an S9+. I won't say it was a HUGE mistake but if we weren't a few months from the P3 I'd sell the Samsung & get another Pixel. I liked it a lot, looking forward to the next one.
Pixel all the way. Had before S8 plus, and this one is spaceship for battery, smoothness and camera wow!
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Pixel all the way. Had before S8 plus, and this one is spaceship for battery, smoothness and camera wow!
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How does the two companies in battery life
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How does the two companies in battery life
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My Mrs has the S8+ which is definitely a very nice device. Beautiful screen and hardware. However, when it comes to battery life compared to my P2XL, it's not even close. On average, she'll get about 4-5 hours of SOT a day, and be at about 20-30% of battery left in the tank after about 16 hours of up time, so she charges it up every night. My P2XL will average 8-12 hours of SOT over close to 48 hours of up time. Having said all that, we use our devices differently. I don't do any social media at all, she uses instafacegraham:silly: from time to time, and talks a fair amount to family. There are times as well where she gets random battery drain for no apparent reason, and the Sammy bloatware apps always seem to be doing something in the background. Granted, the 8+ isn't rooted like my P2XL, so she can't use TiBu or My Android Tools or magisk modules to turn things off. She also likes the fancy AOD clocks and themes that show up on the lock screen, which I think definitely sucks more juice, but they do look nice. So I reckon it all comes down to what you like and how you use your device, I will also say that with the more aggressive edge display of Sammy, that the cases that are available don't protect very well if you drop it on the screen. She's been lucky so far with most all of her drops being on carpet, whereas I've dropped mine a dozen or so times on concrete, but the Caseology vault series case I use has done a stellar job of keeping my device and screen in tact. So there is my opinion of the 2 devices. In the end, I prefer function over flash. So...the P2XL all the way :good:
I'd had both. I sold my p2xl for a s9+. Went back to the pixel 2xl. Here's what I can tell you...The sammy had a better screen, messages and dialer were million times better (they actually tell you who is texting you or calling you), internet browser is better, and theme engine (which I used the Android P beta one on it and loved it). The pixel...updates and better camera. Battery life was similiar between the two. The samsung had much better bluetooth ability in my truck (my pixel skips and **** in the truck). No need for a dongle for a headset. BUT...my unlocked Sammsy was on Feb update (which they JUST updated now). So, it's really a personal pick. I miss my sammy, but I like knowing I'm on the latest security patch too. And the unlock button is still miles better than the sammy.
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My Mrs has the S8+ which is definitely a very nice device. Beautiful screen and hardware. However, when it comes to battery life compared to my P2XL, it's not even close. On average, she'll get about 4-5 hours of SOT a day, and be at about 20-30% of battery left in the tank after about 16 hours of up time, so she charges it up every night. My P2XL will average 8-12 hours of SOT over close to 48 hours of up time. Having said all that, we use our devices differently. I don't do any social media at all, she uses instafacegraham:silly: from time to time, and talks a fair amount to family. There are times as well where she gets random battery drain for no apparent reason, and the Sammy bloatware apps always seem to be doing something in the background. Granted, the 8+ isn't rooted like my P2XL, so she can't use TiBu or My Android Tools or magisk modules to turn things off. She also likes the fancy AOD clocks and themes that show up on the lock screen, which I think definitely sucks more juice, but they do look nice. So I reckon it all comes down to what you like and how you use your device, I will also say that with the more aggressive edge display of Sammy, that the cases that are available don't protect very well if you drop it on the screen. She's been lucky so far with most all of her drops being on carpet, whereas I've dropped mine a dozen or so times on concrete, but the Caseology vault series case I use has done a stellar job of keeping my device and screen in tact. So there is my opinion of the 2 devices. In the end, I prefer function over flash. So...the P2XL all the way :good:
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Whattt 8 to 12 hours of SOT. What do you do to get that kind of battery life?
Also how do you think the P20 Pro compares to the Pixel 2 XL in battery life and usability etc?
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Whattt 8 to 12 hours of SOT. What do you do to get that kind of battery life?
Also how do you think the P20 Pro compares to the Pixel 2 XL in battery life and usability etc?
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I'm mostly just a browser and contributor on XDA. I don't use social media, or watch a lot of YouTube, and the phone gets to sleep quite a bit since I'm retired and it's not always moving on my person. As far as the P20 goes, I have no idea since I've never used it
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I'm mostly just a browser and contributor on XDA. I don't use social media, or watch a lot of YouTube, and the phone gets to sleep quite a bit since I'm retired and it's not always moving on my person. As far as the P20 goes, I have no idea since I've never used it
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Regardless how phone is used 12 hours of SOT is insane.
You must have rooted and modified it because I don't see how else this is possible.
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Regardless how phone is used 12 hours of SOT is insane.
You must have rooted and modified it because I don't see how else this is possible.
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Oh I'm definitely rooted! There's a magisk module I use to knock down some of the 4,674 background services that google play services uses(sarcasm:silly)and I use another app called My Android Tools to stop a few others. But honestly, it's mostly all about usage patterns, signal, wifi, brightness, and lack of movement that gives me those numbers. I'm the rarity, not the norm
If I wasn't on Verizon now, I would be with OnePlus still, or even considered moving to something like the Xiomi Mix 2S, which supports VZW, that was just released.
OnePlus Deb support and path they are taking is really nice. Loved my 5T.
My only real complaint with the Pixel 2 XL is the fat and thick edges and feel compared to Samsing and OnePlus, and a few other phones today. It feels dated right after release IMO compared to competitors and chunky in hand.
Otherwise, Pixel 2 still a great choice.

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