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Like the title says, I'm curious to see how many people actually wanted this function. I was a bit disappointed when I heard about the lack of removable memory, but I lust after this phone. I do have a 16GB card that's near capacity. I haven't cleaned it out in a while, so I'll do that first. Hopefully 16GB will be enough for me. But I digress, this isn't a rant about how the Galaxy Nexus doesn't have removable memory. This thread is more about seeing the percentage of people who did want this function.
I did want it, just like I wanted it on the NS. But I understand that I don't NEED removable storage and will be buying the GN the first chance I get. And given the choice, I'll probably go with a 16GB version, because I still have about 4GB of free space on my NS.
I really wanted an sdcard slot on it. I will have to import the phone as the 32GB versions as there seems to be no current plans to sell that version in Sweden according to Samsung themselves. 32GB is minimum for me. I had hoped to be able to get a 32 GB version and then plug in my 32 GB microsd for even more storage.
Wanted it, but mostly because i got a 32GB MicroSD card already
All of my storage is wasted on nandroids anyway.
The lack of the card slot (which even my Nexus One has) is a real shame - it would only have cost a few pence to include a card slot unless there is something I have missed. The slot would have been preferred to the barometer by the vast majority of people - if we had to choose one or the other.
If they were releasing the 32GB in the UK i wouldn't have wanted an SD slot as that would be enough for me. But as we're only getting the 16GB for whatever reason i would want an SD.
As they're not doing either i'll have to stay with my GS2.
i know i'm having issues with my card slot and/or SD card on my Fascinate. It'll say my SD card is ejected when it's not. I'm starting to think the omission of a card slot isn't so bad.. less moving parts = less things to break? lol
Not too bothered about it at all, never take my card out of the current phone.
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less moving parts = less things to break
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Exactly!
I was a little upset about no SD at first, but then realized that I haven't taken the card out of my N1 since I first got the phone and used it to transfer stuff to the new phone...easy enough to do with a USB and 5 minutes.
Only thing that bums me out is I basically can't get the 16GB because if I run out of space I'm hosed.
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Only thing that bums me out is I basically can't get the 16GB because if I run out of space I'm hosed.
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Use the cloud... everyones doing it heh.
Besides stuff that needs to be on the phone, almost everything (music, docs, photos) are in the cloud for me.
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Exactly!
I was a little upset about no SD at first, but then realized that I haven't taken the card out of my N1 since I first got the phone and used it to transfer stuff to the new phone...easy enough to do with a USB and 5 minutes.
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You are totally missing the point of the sdcard slot. The biggest advantage is being able to upgrade the amount of storage if you need it. The fact that it costs next to nothing now makes it even better. Also, a less used upside is the ability to read it even if your phone stops turning on at all.
To me, the best solution would be to have lots of internal storage but still have the option of an sdcard for extra storage for movies, lossless audio and other big files if the user wanted. I would be totally fine with it being used entirely for user storage. Any form of cache files that are currently stored on the sdcard probably belongs on the internal memory.
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You are totally missing the point of the sdcard slot. The biggest advantage is being able to upgrade the amount of storage if you need it. The fact that it costs next to nothing now makes it even better. Also, a less used upside is the ability to read it even if your phone stops turning on at all.
To me, the best solution would be to have lots of internal storage but still have the option of an sdcard for extra storage for movies, lossless audio and other big files if the user wanted. I would be totally fine with it being used entirely for user storage. Any form of cache files that are currently stored on the sdcard probably belongs on the internal memory.
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Well you got a small screen so movies shouldnt be large in size and phones probably aren't the best devices to playback lossless audio to make a difference audibly.
I'm pro SD card though but really you just slap a large one in there and forget about it. I do use it as a quick medium to transfer custom roms and kernels to my buddies... pictures to my gf... etc. Seemed transfers were faster directly using the SD card vs going through the phone... but with the cloud and wireless transfer methods, its a mute point.
Most stuff can be in the cloud such as pictures and music and even nandroid backups (only need a few locally). I keep games/apps/wallpapers locally but those could even go to the cloud. As long as I can download them when I need them. And you don't need to have a whole movie collection on you at all times. Just a few throwbacks for travels.
My collection spans since my nexus one and its maybe 4-5gb minus music
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV
i got a good collection of 32GB that i parked since i got stuck with Nexus S, i was really hoping GN would have the SD slot
and just purchased a 64GB microSD, with no where to use it on the GN
what am I going to do with my class 10 MicroSD?
I did want it. But I guess its cool that they're selling a 32gb version, just hope it's not an outrageous price. But I've never modded a phone without removable storage before. Either way, I'm buying on launch day.ill be importing from the UK since T-Mobile hasn't said a peep about it and I don't feel like waiting another month or two or three
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Ummm my xoom has usb host with honeycomb , I'm guessing its in ics as well?.. just POP that micro sd into a usb adapter when needed if true
i dont care about SD suport.
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Ummm my xoom has usb host with honeycomb , I'm guessing its in ics as well?.. just POP that micro sd into a usb adapter when needed if true
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USB host in ICS is confirmed by google and many review on the net
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007WTAJTO
I've been waiting for the price to drop on this card. Just giving everyone a heads up on a great deal on a fast card.
will our phones support 64gb no problem?
i saw that earlier as well, but hesitant, dont know if phone supports it or not
The phones will support it Just fine. You have to format it and Max file size is limited to just 4gigs, I believe.
Solid card, i have the 16gb version of that and the speeds are insane, def a step up from my class 4 sd card
Whooot!
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nice been looking for a deal!
I thought the E4GT only supported up to 32gb?
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I thought the E4GT only supported up to 32gb?
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Nope! Working on my phone.
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Just wanted to say thanks for the heads up... Didn't get the 64gb card but never would have thought these would be so cheap on Amazon!
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I thought this phone only handle 32gb card
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I thought this phone only handle 32gb card
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And I thought people could read at least one Page!
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And I thought people could read at least one Page!
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Yes, yes, but it's still quite odd; you don't often hear about manufacturers/carriers underestimating their own devices.
In other words, has anyone actually tried filling a 64GB card to max capacity with data on the phone itself? Or is it only addressing the first 32GB like I would expect? Just because the card happens to be readable doesn't mean it's actually fully working like it should, so I'd still be wary about landing the money on a 64GB card for a phone that Sprint claims supports up to only 32GB.
If it *is* only addressing the first 32GB, then the only remotely possible option to get the full 64GB capacity is to re-partition the external SD as two 32GB (roughly; probably a little less) partitions. However, that's a *very* big "if" as to whether or not that actually works, since SD cards (and other flash-based external memory devices like USB thumbdrives) are designed (and expected) to have only one large partition. Similarly, you'd have to do some serious modding to get both partitions mounted (if the phone's card reader itself isn't the limitation).
In all likelihood, even that above solution would probably not work due to hardware/firmware limitations. This is similar to giving older computers big hard drives; even though the hard drive will certainly be usable, many older BIOSes are incapable of accessing anything beyond a certain capacity (in the case of an old Compaq laptop I have, that limit would be 10GB).
tl;dr: don't assume that the ability to mount the SD card automatically means all the space on it is accessible from the phone.
i ordered this card after seeing this thread.
it came in today.
i cant get the phone to read it.
i formatted it and tried everything.
dunno whats up.
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i ordered this card after seeing this thread.
it came in today.
i cant get the phone to read it.
i formatted it and tried everything.
dunno whats up.
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Format to FAT32 and will work
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YellowApple said:
Yes, yes, but it's still quite odd; you don't often hear about manufacturers/carriers underestimating their own devices.
In other words, has anyone actually tried filling a 64GB card to max capacity with data on the phone itself? Or is it only addressing the first 32GB like I would expect? Just because the card happens to be readable doesn't mean it's actually fully working like it should, so I'd still be wary about landing the money on a 64GB card for a phone that Sprint claims supports up to only 32GB.
If it *is* only addressing the first 32GB, then the only remotely possible option to get the full 64GB capacity is to re-partition the external SD as two 32GB (roughly; probably a little less) partitions. However, that's a *very* big "if" as to whether or not that actually works, since SD cards (and other flash-based external memory devices like USB thumbdrives) are designed (and expected) to have only one large partition. Similarly, you'd have to do some serious modding to get both partitions mounted (if the phone's card reader itself isn't the limitation).
In all likelihood, even that above solution would probably not work due to hardware/firmware limitations. This is similar to giving older computers big hard drives; even though the hard drive will certainly be usable, many older BIOSes are incapable of accessing anything beyond a certain capacity (in the case of an old Compaq laptop I have, that limit would be 10GB).
tl;dr: don't assume that the ability to mount the SD card automatically means all the space on it is accessible from the phone.
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It's never ALL accessible whether it's supported or not whether it's computer phone or any device. Making two partitions would have you lose even more space and isn't necessary, once card is formatted to FAT32 it WILL work people.
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I have been thinking alot about getting a new card.But after I looked more into it 32gb is a max. I could really not use up 64 gb unless I am loading it up with my girl's Disney movies and Transformers G1 episodes.
With 16gb internal and 32gb ext. that would be more than adequate,cause most of the time i am transferring data back to my PC. Especially backups and ROMS.
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I have been thinking alot about getting a new card.But after I looked more into it 32gb is a max. I could really not use up 64 gb unless I am loading it up with my girl's Disney movies and Transformers G1 episodes.
With 16gb internal and 32gb ext. that would be more than adequate,cause most of the time i am transferring data back to my PC. Especially backups and ROMS.
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Trust me this is one of those things that once you get it your going to be asking yourself why you didn't always have it this way and that you need it
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64 gb works perfectly in my phone, all you have to do is format it once through and bam double the max of what the box says, the extra space is well worth it
What class SD is it? I am curious if it truely makes a difference between class 6 and class 10. Never saw any comparisons on them.
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It's never ALL accessible whether it's supported or not whether it's computer phone or any device. Making two partitions would have you lose even more space and isn't necessary, once card is formatted to FAT32 it WILL work people.
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I think you misunderstood what I'm saying. Splitting into two partitions will create some overhead with additional file allocation tables and partition data, sure, but it's nothing compared to losing half of your card's capacity because the device you're using the card on isn't capable of addressing past the 32GB mark. There's a difference between "it'll work" and "it'll work correctly", and in this case that difference is 32GB of potentially-inaccessible capacity.
So, I reiterate: has anyone verified that the phone is capable of reading and writing to the entire capacity of the card? Does it recognize the card's capacity to be 64GB (or something close)? Does writing more than 32GB worth of files actually work, or does the operation fail (or worse, overwrite data)? I'll see if I can get my hands on one of these cards so I can perform this kind of test, but until someone confirms this, it would be wise to maintain some healthy skepticism, lest you buy a fancy 64GB card just to figure out that it works no better than a 32GB card.
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I think you misunderstood what I'm saying. Splitting into two partitions will create some overhead with additional file allocation tables and partition data, sure, but it's nothing compared to losing half of your card's capacity because the device you're using the card on isn't capable of addressing past the 32GB mark. There's a difference between "it'll work" and "it'll work correctly", and in this case that difference is 32GB of potentially-inaccessible capacity.
So, I reiterate: has anyone verified that the phone is capable of reading and writing to the entire capacity of the card? Does it recognize the card's capacity to be 64GB (or something close)? Does writing more than 32GB worth of files actually work, or does the operation fail (or worse, overwrite data)? I'll see if I can get my hands on one of these cards so I can perform this kind of test, but until someone confirms this, it would be wise to maintain some healthy skepticism, lest you buy a fancy 64GB card just to figure out that it works no better than a 32GB card.
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It has been verified by a few users in this thread already as well as others. Read a bit of this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1799634(as long as it is an actual SanDisk card then there is no reason to worry) it will work.
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Hi,
I am pretty confident at this point I'll be picking up a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 once it hits the market (presuming it's not banned off the face of the Earth by Apple first, somehow), but I have a question, and, I'm not entirely clear on something:
The Note II comes in three variants, 16 GB, 32 GB and 64 GB. However, what's the point of buying anything other than the 16 GB (maybe 32 GB) if it supports up to 64 GB via micro SDHC? Plus, to my understanding you can install apps directly to the MSDHC as well? I presume this is due to local caching, performance, etc. which is why you would want to use local storage only, but, to that, I ask: if you buy the 64 GB, is there really enough of a reason to require it? The app store just doesn't provide enough interest to need it for apps themselves, music and video can put dumped in the much cheaper MSDHC instead; so why buy the higher storage capacity? I know this is a very subjective thing, so, it's a bit of preference involved, but, I'm curious to know what the leading factors are, so when the time comes to pay the premium I'll know for sure what I'll be picking up internal-storage wise.
Anyone who wants to clear this up for me, please, do, I'm sure I'm missing something fundamental here.
Exino said:
Hi,
I am pretty confident at this point I'll be picking up a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 once it hits the market (presuming it's not banned off the face of the Earth by Apple first, somehow), but I have a question, and, I'm not entirely clear on something:
The Note II comes in three variants, 16 GB, 32 GB and 64 GB. However, what's the point of buying anything other than the 16 GB (maybe 32 GB) if it supports up to 64 GB via micro SDHC? Plus, to my understanding you can install apps directly to the MSDHC as well? I presume this is due to local caching, performance, etc. which is why you would want to use local storage only, but, to that, I ask: if you buy the 64 GB, is there really enough of a reason to require it? The app store just doesn't provide enough interest to need it for apps themselves, music and video can put dumped in the much cheaper MSDHC instead; so why buy the higher storage capacity? I know this is a very subjective thing, so, it's a bit of preference involved, but, I'm curious to know what the leading factors are, so when the time comes to pay the premium I'll know for sure what I'll be picking up internal-storage wise.
Anyone who wants to clear this up for me, please, do, I'm sure I'm missing something fundamental here.
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Internal NAND is usually orders of magnitude faster. Also, it is less complicated to deal with when you dont have to play the "Which Partition To Use Today" game.
Its not worth getting anything over 16gb as long as you can expand with micro sd. If no external storage is available, that's the only reason to get a 32 or 64 variant.
Plus, that extra storage is WAY over priced. A 32gb micro sd card can be as low as 20 bucks if you shop around. A 64gb can be had for about 50 bucks, so paying an extra 150 for the 64 over the 16 is robbery.
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Eun-Hjzjined said:
Its not worth getting anything over 16gb as long as you can expand with micro sd. If no external storage is available, that's the only reason to get a 32 or 64 variant.
Plus, that extra storage is WAY over priced. A 32gb micro sd card can be as low as 20 bucks if you shop around. A 64gb can be had for about 50 bucks, so paying an extra 150 for the 64 over the 16 is robbery.
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Internal NAND will be faster, bar none, than any SD card on the market. Class 10 or not. Its not a rip off, and it very well could mean the difference between slow loading apps (if they reside on the SD card) and a lagless experience. Just letting you know.
If all you plan to store is media, then by all means go for the minimum and augment with an SD card, but it it NOT robbery to be given far faster storage. It is like the difference between an IDE drive and SATA. No comparison or contest when it comes to board-mounted NAND.
I appreciate all the responses so far. I'm thinking I might just get the 32 GB middle-ground in this case (which is what I did when I bought my to-be-replaced iPhone 4), and it's served me well enough. If the difference between 32 GB and 64 GB ends up being $50.00 I'll likely just pick up the larger one as, at least in Canada, it's a 3-year phone term, so, I might as well add as much life to it as I can up front.
I definitely agree with the NAND vs MSDHC performance. The reason I only question it is that I am, of course, thinking of only doing a media dump on the device. Now, I also plan on loading in direct Blu-ray to 720p files, so, I'm not sure of the performance marker there of pulling 720p content from a MSDHC to the device would be, but I can only imagine my performance would be better realised if I was pulling it direct off the NAND.
I guess it'll come down to price, more than anything. I am not heavy into doing large-media storage, so, I doubt there will be much going on where I really need to hit 128 GB of space, but, you know, having the option is nice, especially when travelling around. At least Samsung didn't decide to get foolish and only offer the internal NAND as options, MSDHC is definitely a very nice feature in a device that's intended to bridge the smartphone and tablet market.
...it will also come down to what AT&T offers!!!!
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Exino said:
Hi,
I am pretty confident at this point I'll be picking up a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 once it hits the market (presuming it's not banned off the face of the Earth by Apple first, somehow), but I have a question, and, I'm not entirely clear on something:
The Note II comes in three variants, 16 GB, 32 GB and 64 GB. However, what's the point of buying anything other than the 16 GB (maybe 32 GB) if it supports up to 64 GB via micro SDHC? Plus, to my understanding you can install apps directly to the MSDHC as well? I presume this is due to local caching, performance, etc. which is why you would want to use local storage only, but, to that, I ask: if you buy the 64 GB, is there really enough of a reason to require it? The app store just doesn't provide enough interest to need it for apps themselves, music and video can put dumped in the much cheaper MSDHC instead; so why buy the higher storage capacity? I know this is a very subjective thing, so, it's a bit of preference involved, but, I'm curious to know what the leading factors are, so when the time comes to pay the premium I'll know for sure what I'll be picking up internal-storage wise.
Anyone who wants to clear this up for me, please, do, I'm sure I'm missing something fundamental here.
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It's the same game that has been around for decades now regarding storage space and price. The price per unit of storage is always going down and your usage of said storage is always going up. One day you will be wondering how you lived with anything less than an Exabyte of space and laugh at those who paid $100 per terabyte. There are only relative usage profiles for the space and everyone's budget is also relative. For me, I will be rocking the 64GB variant with a 64GB micro SD card and claim 128GB in 2012... but you sir will have the last laugh at my expense
16gb internal with micro sd is better, so all game data will go to internal sd, while all your important file(pics,mp3,vids etc) in your micro sd(whatever size it is) much safer if something wrong happen to internal sd
32gb way to much, better having a large micro sd than internal sd
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If its anything like the S3 you wont be able to move apps to a sd card.
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If its anything like the S3 you wont be able to move apps to a sd card.
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16gb wont enough?
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robyr said:
Internal NAND will be faster, bar none, than any SD card on the market. Class 10 or not. Its not a rip off, and it very well could mean the difference between slow loading apps (if they reside on the SD card) and a lagless experience. Just letting you know.
If all you plan to store is media, then by all means go for the minimum and augment with an SD card, but it it NOT robbery to be given far faster storage. It is like the difference between an IDE drive and SATA. No comparison or contest when it comes to board-mounted NAND.
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Sweeping comment, TROLLING?? I have seen many Micro SD cards from Sandisk reaching upto 100MBps despite being marketed as Class 10. This is VERY IRRESPONSIBLE comment as there is no holy grail engraved in your beloved "NAND" Flash. Its just a type of flash and doesn't dictate in terms of performance unless Samsung's hardware can not utilize the higher speed Micro SD cards.
One major benefit of having 64GB onboard would be Micro SD card will become more redundant if you live with that space for years. Also, you would have an opportunity to have upto 124GB or so when using 64GB Micro SD cards (I am optimistic though that these new phones may support even higher capacity 128GB or so MSD cards may be after some software tweaks by some of our dev gurus here).
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16gb wont enough?
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Not for me. I ran out of storage already.
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Its just a type of flash and doesn't dictate in terms of performance unless Samsung's hardware can not utilize the higher speed Micro SD cards.
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All card readers/writers have their throughput limits.
How fast the note 2's is is yet to be determined.
Has anyone determined the max write /read speed of the note 1?
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When are they going to release the 64 GB Galaxy Note 2 ? At least when Apple say that there is a 64 GB version, we actually see it in real life.
If Samsung is not going to release it, why even announce that there is a 64 GB version. Samsung may as well say that there is a 16/32/64/128/256 GB version of the Galaxy Note 2 during its event to make it look good.
Gn2 forums state Samsung isn't going to bother with the 64, and likely focus on the 16 only.
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Gn2 forums state Samsung isn't going to bother with the 64, and likely focus on the 16 only.
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Even if you don't believe everything posted in a forum, considering that the 64GB S3s are just now slowly starting to trickle out in Europe, I wouldn't be optimistic on that ever happening.
Wait toss doesn't have 64? Kidding, but maybe the onboard chip coukd be removed and replaced with a 64gb model. Couple of guys I work with could do it and they have the tools. Probably safer to put a 64gb class 10 microsd in it. Maybe in a year, after warranty is out, I'll have them take a stab at it.
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Gn2 forums state Samsung isn't going to bother with the 64, and likely focus on the 16 only.
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That is why I think Samsung should not announce that there is such a thing as a 32/64 GB version of Galaxy Note originally.
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Wait toss doesn't have 64? Kidding, but maybe the onboard chip coukd be removed and replaced with a 64gb model. Couple of guys I work with could do it and they have the tools. Probably safer to put a 64gb class 10 microsd in it. Maybe in a year, after warranty is out, I'll have them take a stab at it.
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I would imagine that a class 10 64GB card would not be a good idea as a replacement to the built-in 16GB flash; I think the onboard flash is higher speed than any SD card we would install, even if you could get the Note II's storage controller and such to recognize the new chip properly, and do the connections properly.
Sounds like a cool project nonetheless
Try this, it will switch your external sd card to your internal sd card. So if you have a 64gb card you can essentially have a 64gb samsung note 2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1981090
This is my thread i've done it, love having the extra space and not worry about running out of space.
playtillyadrop said:
Try this, it will switch your external sd card to your internal sd card. So if you have a 64gb card you can essentially have a 64gb samsung note 2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1981090
This is my thread i've done it, love having the extra space and not worry about running out of space.
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How are things running? The internal storage on the note 2 is about triple the speed of an extreme sd card running at 95mb/s. Note 2 internal read write is just over 220 mb/s. If you use a class 10 sd card, those are only 25-30mb/s. If your playing games with huge loads like Nova 3 or move huge amounts of video/photos, it's likely going to take a huge hit to speed if you use the SD card as internal storage.
It's like desktop PCs - many people use smaller ssds for the OS and the bigger but often slower drives for heavy storage. In this case then internal is like an ssd and the SD card is like a data drive.
Can you compare the transfer rate while moving a big video to and from the internal memory compared to moving the same video to the SD card mounted as the internal drive? Curious as to your results.
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When are they going to release the 64 GB Galaxy Note 2 ? At least when Apple say that there is a 64 GB version, we actually see it in real life.
If Samsung is not going to release it, why even announce that there is a 64 GB version. Samsung may as well say that there is a 16/32/64/128/256 GB version of the Galaxy Note 2 during its event to make it look good.
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Iphone doesn't have ability to add an sd card to expand storage. The note II supports up to 64gb in addition to the built in 16gb. What other phone available has this kind of storage?
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geekasso said:
Iphone doesn't have ability to add an sd card to expand storage. The note II supports up to 64gb in addition to the built in 16gb. What other phone available has this kind of storage?
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My point is not that iphone has better storage or not. What I want to say is Samsung stated that there is a 64 GB version of the Galaxy Note 2 and they don't release it at the same time as the release of the 16 GB. Apple actually release the 16/32/64 GB at the same time.
The funny thing is, Samsung actually can make its own flash memory. It does not have to depend on another company.
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How are things running? The internal storage on the note 2 is about triple the speed of an extreme sd card running at 95mb/s. Note 2 internal read write is just over 220 mb/s. If you use a class 10 sd card, those are only 25-30mb/s. If your playing games with huge loads like Nova 3 or move huge amounts of video/photos, it's likely going to take a huge hit to speed if you use the SD card as internal storage.
It's like desktop PCs - many people use smaller ssds for the OS and the bigger but often slower drives for heavy storage. In this case then internal is like an ssd and the SD card is like a data drive.
Can you compare the transfer rate while moving a big video to and from the internal memory compared to moving the same video to the SD card mounted as the internal drive? Curious as to your results.
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To be honest i cant tell of any difference in speed in day to day use. Apps load fine and just as fast as the internal sd. The core apps and Stock Rom are installed on the ram, so there wouldnt be any difference really with using the device. As for transferring videos back and forth i haven't really done and tests, but than again i would always store larger media files on the 64gb sd anyway. I do highly recommend this mod especially for someone looking for more capacity. i had this mod on my gs3 and no problems then, and i have no problems now. If anyone is holding out for the 64gb note 2 just look at the gs3 situation. You have to remember you arent removing the internal sd they are just swapped for each other in the OS. So the internal is now the external. Both are accessible just like normal.
I'm running a 64GB microSDXC and it's just fine and dandy. I agree they shouldn't announce it and then not have it available though.
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To be honest i cant tell of any difference in speed in day to day use. Apps load fine and just as fast as the internal sd. The core apps and Stock Rom are installed on the ram, so there wouldnt be any difference really with using the device. As for transferring videos back and forth i haven't really done and tests, but than again i would always store larger media files on the 64gb sd anyway. I do highly recommend this mod especially for someone looking for more capacity. i had this mod on my gs3 and no problems then, and i have no problems now. If anyone is holding out for the 64gb note 2 just look at the gs3 situation. You have to remember you arent removing the internal sd they are just swapped for each other in the OS. So the internal is now the external. Both are accessible just like normal.
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I ran this mod with a 64gb sandisk class 10. Works flawlessly, no difference that I can tell. Its stable and awesome.
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I ran this mod with a 64gb sandisk class 10. Works flawlessly, no difference that I can tell. Its stable and awesome.
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yup the mod is definitely awesome, seriously have to love the xda developers and what they can accomplish on android.
So no issue with game speed? I had to uninstall about 4 games cause my memory was down to 1.65gb. This is the only reason I am thinking of really rooting right now
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Maybe they'll release a 64GB when this is ready
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/15/samsung-10nm-64gb-emmc-mobile-flash-memory/
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So no issue with game speed? I had to uninstall about 4 games cause my memory was down to 1.65gb. This is the only reason I am thinking of really rooting right now
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seriously no game speed difference at all. Everything works flawlessly.
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seriously no game speed difference at all. Everything works flawlessly.
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Great to hear. Will root mine and do this once this 64gb class 10 card I ordered is in. Have a32 in now so will just wait
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Use EXTERNAL SD, do not rely on internal storage!
Earthbrain said:
When are they going to release the 64 GB Galaxy Note 2 ? At least when Apple say that there is a 64 GB version, we actually see it in real life.
If Samsung is not going to release it, why even announce that there is a 64 GB version. Samsung may as well say that there is a 16/32/64/128/256 GB version of the Galaxy Note 2 during its event to make it look good.
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You should never be worried about the internal memory size - even 8GB should be enough, AS LONG AS the phone comes with EXTERNAL SD CARD SLOT WHICH ACCEPTS LARGE SD CARDS. Having the external SD card is NOT necessarily about expanding your storing capacity (although a 64GB does that generously) but rather about having your information safe, significantly less prone to accidental formatting/erasing. Most of the time when you do a factory reset your internal storage is also formatted - do you want that to happen when you stored tons of important information? Of course not!! Worried about read/write speed? Buy a high quality, class 10 external SD card and I promise you won't see any drop in speed. Only use the internal storage for files that the system really looks for and requires to be placed inhere - otherwise, EVERYTHING else, especially large media files, backups and personal files should be kept onto the EXTERNAL SD Card. There are tons of advantages doing so and all those messages companies like Apple, HTC (newly adopted this stupid model), or others alike who try to influence and convince you that external SD cards are obsolete & cloud storage is better, all that is simply marketing BS. Buy Samsung because they didn't aligned themselves to the BS, because you can have a super generous 16GB internal storage and up to 64GB external storage. Do you need more than 80GB on the go? Then reconsider...really! Maybe you shouldn't download all the internet today, leave some for tomorrow when they'll make you pay for all that "free" cloud storage that you kept cramming onto today. Be open minded, understand how things work and do what's good for YOU not for the big corporations!
Several game loft games and the internal storage is gone... some people do that ya know
And most people dont know about all the hacks to get around this limitation.
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I generally buy tablets with at least 32 gb. I bought the iPad Air with 64 because I learned my lesson with the iPad 2 and filling it up.
When I went to Best Buy to pick up a Note 10.1 2014, they only had the 16 gb model. I could have waited, or picked it up somewhere else, but I wanted to take advantage of Best Buy's financing (18 months no interest) and I hate waiting for things.
After installing all of my apps and downloading the data for them, I have about 6 gb left. The problem is, I read a lot of comics. A typical comic in the Comixology app will run you about 100 mb or so. I delete many of them when I have read them, but I fall behind on my reading fairly regularly and accumulate quite a few. I also have a lot of articles in Pocket that I'm behind on and that takes about 600 mb.
Apps to SD is a myth on Samsung devices. I have confirmed that when you move an app to SD, it just moves it to a folder called "emulated" and really doesn't free up any space. Add to that that Pocket's "store cache on SD" feature isn't working and Comixology won't store comics on the external SD and I can basically only use the SD card slot for movies and music. So, I'm wodering: Will 16 (9) GB be enough? Or do I need to take this thing back and get the 32 gb model?
My real question is: How are those of you with the 16 gb model getting by? Is your internal space filled up? Are you wishing you had the bigger model?
Ive had other tabs that were 16g and as long as I was mindful of where I stored my books and photos I never ran inyo problems. I also make sure my email only syncs 5 days. With my work and personal accounts I get way to many. For reading I use Moonreader because unlike aldiko it doesn't force me to put my books on the device. Hope this helped
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Ive had other tabs that were 16g and as long as I was mindful of where I stored my books and photos I never ran inyo problems. I also make sure my email only syncs 5 days. With my work and personal accounts I get way to many. For reading I use Moonreader because unlike aldiko it doesn't force me to put my books on the device. Hope this helped
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I have had 16 GB tablets as well, but they generally have much more of that 16 gb available. All of the touchwiz and SPen features leave us with just over 8 GB on this thing. There's also the issue that, if we fill it up completely, it will hurt performance. So we really only have about 6-7 total out of the box.
I'm taking it back and getting the 32GB model. I love the tablet, but I need internal space.
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I generally buy tablets with at least 32 gb. I bought the iPad Air with 64 because I learned my lesson with the iPad 2 and filling it up.
When I went to Best Buy to pick up a Note 10.1 2014, they only had the 16 gb model. I could have waited, or picked it up somewhere else, but I wanted to take advantage of Best Buy's financing (18 months no interest) and I hate waiting for things.
After installing all of my apps and downloading the data for them, I have about 6 gb left. The problem is, I read a lot of comics. A typical comic in the Comixology app will run you about 100 mb or so. I delete many of them when I have read them, but I fall behind on my reading fairly regularly and accumulate quite a few. I also have a lot of articles in Pocket that I'm behind on and that takes about 600 mb.
Apps to SD is a myth on Samsung devices. I have confirmed that when you move an app to SD, it just moves it to a folder called "emulated" and really doesn't free up any space. Add to that that Pocket's "store cache on SD" feature isn't working and Comixology won't store comics on the external SD and I can basically only use the SD card slot for movies and music. So, I'm wodering: Will 16 (9) GB be enough? Or do I need to take this thing back and get the 32 gb model?
My real question is: How are those of you with the 16 gb model getting by? Is your internal space filled up? Are you wishing you had the bigger model?
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You can use Folder Mount to move programs to the SD Card too.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devasque.fmount&hl=en
It works fine on the Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition.
Same here thinking of selling my 16gb and get a 32gb. Games alone fills up storage fast. Having an sd car doesnt help either
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Just got a 16GB at Best Buy for the same reason as OP (wanted to use financing, didn't want to wait) - haven't done anything with it yet, but I'm getting more and more nervous that I'm going to run into trouble with the storage space - I expected to be able to move more onto an external SD card, but it sounds like that's not so workable after all?
If I root, I have more options, but I'm reluctant to do that if I don't have to... Anyone else have a similar conundrum?
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Just got a 16GB at Best Buy for the same reason as OP (wanted to use financing, didn't want to wait) - haven't done anything with it yet, but I'm getting more and more nervous that I'm going to run into trouble with the storage space - I expected to be able to move more onto an external SD card, but it sounds like that's not so workable after all?
If I root, I have more options, but I'm reluctant to do that if I don't have to... Anyone else have a similar conundrum?
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Not sure if this is an option for you, but I bought the 32 gb model from Newegg with my preferred account. 12 months no payment or interest. And no sales tax unless you live in CA. Taking the 16 back to Best Buy. Better too much space than not enough.
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I have had 16 GB tablets as well, but they generally have much more of that 16 gb available. All of the touchwiz and SPen features leave us with just over 8 GB on this thing. There's also the issue that, if we fill it up completely, it will hurt performance. So we really only have about 6-7 total out of the box.
I'm taking it back and getting the 32GB model. I love the tablet, but I need internal space.
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Really? I have over 11 free ... sm-p600. What version you running?
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Really? I have over 11 free ... sm-p600. What version you running?
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So you have the 16 GB and over 11 GB free? That I can live with, and it's about what I would have expected from the OS and bloatware... I can't decide if I want to try fot the 32 or just deal with the 15 (I'm not going to game with it, and movies/media I'd run off the SD card no matter what)...
I'm in a state of acute analysis paralysis! Someone decide for me...
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So you have the 16 GB and over 11 GB free? That I can live with, and it's about what I would have expected from the OS and bloatware... I can't decide if I want to try fot the 32 or just deal with the 15 (I'm not going to game with it, and movies/media I'd run off the SD card no matter what)...
I'm in a state of acute analysis paralysis! Someone decide for me...
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you'e kind of answered it yourself tbh...Gaming will take up the majority of the space of a tablet. Applications are normally around 20mb to a max of 100mb and some rare ones larger. Games on the other hand well the high graphic games anyways are over a 1GB so space would be an issue if you were to play loads of games.
honestly if you have no intentions of gaming 16GB would be plenty for you although if you could afford the 32GB then go for it since its always nice to have loads of space.
Ofcourse only you can really decide but I'm holiding out for a 32GB because I would like to have atleast a handful of 1GB games to keep me busy when I'm at the airport waiting for my flight or on the flight itself.