[Q] Updates and Rootability - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4

For the AT&T Note 4, should one avoid installing any updates to maximize the odds of the phone being rootable later? Or is it unlikely to matter?

bazald said:
For the AT&T Note 4, should one avoid installing any updates to maximize the odds of the phone being rootable later? Or is it unlikely to matter?
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From what we know about the note 4, which is very little so far, is that we need to find a way to root before 5.0L comes out.

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[Q] The Note 3 release will make easy to port 4.3 to Note 2?

Well, the thread title says all.
I'm not a developer and don't know if will be easy or not.
I ask for the experts, it will be easy for we get Note2 updates from the Note 3 or it is a different hardware and cannot be used the software from it?
Thanks
No, the update isn't from anther model, it's from Samsung,I mean, if Samsung want give it for us, it will be very very quickly, but Samsung do not want, because if note 2 get 4.3 too quickly, some people well not to but the new one. All about marketing.
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The device it is the easiest to port from is the Note 8.0 I think. They are very similar. Almost identical.
Though its still hard..
why is mod locking up all Note 3 threads?
Because they don't have anything to do with the Note 2, what is also considered as "off-topic" in a section dedicated to the Note 2.
To OP. Why do you bother even think about this?! As soon as Note 3 comes out you'll get an update. These threads will get locked soon.
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Because they don't have anything to do with the Note 2, what is also considered as "off-topic" in a section dedicated to the Note 2.
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Note 3 have nothing to do with Note 2? What?
Note 2 has several variants but none of their roms can be ported/flashed to either device..so Note3 rom will no way be ported to Note2
Also Note2 will get update after months of launching note3(because of their marketing policy-no need to explain)
nitrousĀ² said:
Because they don't have anything to do with the Note 2, what is also considered as "off-topic" in a section dedicated to the Note 2.
To OP. Why do you bother even think about this?! As soon as Note 3 comes out you'll get an update. These threads will get locked soon.
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I think that my next phone will not be a Samsung. When i bought i choose it because Samsung said Note 2 was getting all the updates till Android 5.0, so i thought that they have good update policy (my previous phone was a motorola defy, and same thing there, no updates).
And about the "As soon as Note 3 comes out you'll get an update" citation, i think your wrong. Samsung is pushing everyone to buy a new device and not to make a good update policy for old devices
rafaelw said:
I think that my next phone will not be a Samsung. When i bought i choose it because Samsung said Note 2 was getting all the updates till Android 5.0, so i thought that they have good update policy (my previous phone was a motorola defy, and same thing there, no updates).
And about the "As soon as Note 3 comes out you'll get an update" citation, i think your wrong. Samsung is pushing everyone to buy a new device and not to make a good update policy for old devices
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Oh, c'mon. Of course they wan't you to buy their newest device!! That's business 101!! What do you complain about? For companies doing marketing?! And we don't even need to discuss wether the Note 2 will get future updates or not. Given that even the S2 will get (or got?) 4.2.2 (delivered with 2.3 and got updated to 2.3.6>4.0>4.0.4>4.1.1>4.1.2) that's 6 updates including 4.2.2!!! Evene if it'll be late, im pretty sure it'll come.
what's wrong with buying new phone? You're getting both a hardware and software update.
FinancialWar said:
what's wrong with buying new phone? You're getting both a hardware and software update.
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Yeah, consumption is always a good thing. Says Mr. "FinancialWar". Pun intended? :laugh::laugh:
When S4/S3/s2 ROM can be ported in galaxy s i9000 then why not note 3 ROM/features ported in note 2
ancient galaxy s i9000(s1) has more 4.3 custom ROMs than our note 2
Rajaasim1980 said:
When S4/S3/s2 ROM can be ported in galaxy s i9000 then why not note 3 ROM/features ported in note 2
ancient galaxy s i9000(s1) has more 4.3 custom ROMs than our note 2
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Kind of stupid comparison isn't it?
would you rather use i9000 with 4.3 rom or Note 2 with 4.1.1 rom??
FinancialWar said:
Kind of stupid comparison isn't it?
would you rather use i9000 with 4.3 rom or Note 2 with 4.1.1 rom??
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No, its not stupid comparison .
I am using boht of them
but you did not get the point. did you?
I was saying that when JB 4.3 can be ported in old galaxy s with limited hardware and RAM then we can expect 4.3 for our note 2
It's called software optimization. ..
Not easy. .
And the note 3 is getting new s pen features in 4.3. . So Samsung does not want to release those features to note 2 before note 3 is launched.. plain simple. .just got to wait .
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[Q] Future Support for Galaxy Tab 3

I am thinking of buying an samsung galaxy tab 3 7 inch, but i wonder for how long the tablet will be supported. Do you think it ever even gets KitKat? As far as i can see, there are not even 4.3 roms out there Do you think this will change and will Samsung provide Official updates?
transformador said:
I am thinking of buying an samsung galaxy tab 3 7 inch, but i wonder for how long the tablet will be supported. Do you think it ever even gets KitKat? As far as i can see, there are not even 4.3 roms out there Do you think this will change and will Samsung provide Official updates?
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personally, if you can a few bucks, I would get the 8" model. but if not, i don't see the 7" getting kit kat. I would wait for the 2014 model.
Official support notice for gtab 3 7 with Kitkat should be here in a little while. I think the Sprint devices got their updates first already.

No Official Marshmallow Support for T-Mobile Note 3.

T-Mobile list of devices being updated to Marshmallow.
http://androidspin.com/2015/10/05/t-mobile-details-which-devices-will-see-android-6-0-marshmallow/
Samsung
Galaxy S5
Galaxy S6
Galaxy S6 Edge
Galaxy S6 Edge+
Galaxy Note 4
Galaxy Note 5
Galaxy Tab S2
Can anyone here say they're really surprised?...
Not surprised at all, guess it's time to get a GN5 or a GS6. :good:
Figures.
Well, unless Sammy puts the micro SD slot back in the Note devices I'll be jumping ship.
Not surprised, but sad! Maybe its time to try the Motorola X pure 2015 edition or the Nexus 6P.
Honestly, it would be nice to have, but this phone is now a full two years old. I think it's time we stop expecting Samsung to spend time upgrading us to the latest version of Android. They upgraded us to Lollipop, which I think they had some obligation to do, but I don't think we can expect them to keep doing so indefinitely.
As for my Note 3, It has started to show its age. I think I will be retiring it in the next few months. I have no idea what phone I'll get next. Maybe the iPhone 6.
LOL j/k.
I'd be happy with a damn 5.1 update to address the memory leak. It's insulting to stop updating on such a crappy revision.
As long as other snapdragons 800 keep getting updates I dont see any problem.
Paranoid, AOKP, Cyanogen, Slim, OmniROM, Dirty Unicorns, Darklord's ports! Who need Samsung? N3 is 2 years old, but it's still a beast.
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As long as other snapdragons 800 keep getting updates I dont see any problem.
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I would like an official release of 5.1.1 from T-Mobile so I can have the latest fixes & updates + the ability to continue using Wi-Fi calling
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Not surprised at all, guess it's time to get a GN5 or a GS6. :good:
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I guess I'm not surprised, but I am very disappointed. The industry is really bad right now. I mean you only support one year of releases? The current Note 5, and last years Note 4? Sad. With how good phone have been in the last three or even four years they are more than capable to support a new OS. The Note 3 is still a powerhouse, and will probably be so for another three years at least. I'm thankful for the dev community, so at least we can still get the latest OS/ROMs with custom ones.
There is to be a grain of salt taken with this info, but...
http://www.justaboutphones.com/galaxy-s5-alpha-note-3-s4-android-5-1-1-lollipop-update/
According to the image, the 5.1.1 update is in testing for the Note 3 and will be finished sometime in November. I realize we won't get Marshmallow (which is fine with me, even though the Note 3 is more than capable of running it.) I'm just glad (hopeful, more like it) that we'll (maybe) get the 5.1.1 update. Once that gets old and the phone is truly non-supported, then I'll consider rooting and installing a custom rom on this unit.
Fingers crossed!
It pisses me off, is what it does, no 5.1.1 yet for this high $$$ device, its all about the damn money. I am not phone hopping any longer. My wife still has the device, and I can do nothing with it.....sad is what it is......
Not everyone has $800+ to spend on a phone every 6mo. sheez....
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dirtybudha said:
Figures.
Well, unless Sammy puts the micro SD slot back in the Note devices I'll be jumping ship.
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AxAtAx said:
It pisses me off, is what it does, no 5.1.1 yet for this high $$$ device, its all about the damn money. I am not phone hopping any longer. My wife still has the device, and I can do nothing with it.....sad is what it is......
Not everyone has $800+ to spend on a phone every 6mo. sheez....
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I just upgraded to the Note 4 for far less than $800 dollars. You don't have to get the newest released device in order to upgrade. And the Note 4 will get Marshmallow.
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I just upgraded to the Note 4 for far less than $800 dollars. You don't have to get the newest released device in order to upgrade. And the Note 4 will get Marshmallow.
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The note 4 will get marshmallow when android "N" is on the corner. So why spend money to upgrade from note 3 to note 4 if both of them are not getting upgraded to the latest android before android N is released (quater 2 or quarter 3 2016), when there would be a new wave of devices? Only newest samsung device can get upgrade in a timely manner.
So for those who are desperate for newest version of android, either get a nexus phone or upgrade to the newest device every year. Otherwise just stick with the old phone for two or three years and then buy the newest phone.
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The note 4 will get marshmallow when android "N" is on the corner. So why spend money to upgrade from note 3 to note 4 if both of them are not getting upgraded to the latest android before android N is released (quater 2 or quarter 3 2016), when there would be a new wave of devices? Only newest samsung device can get upgrade in a timely manner.
So for those who are desperate for newest version of android, either get a nexus phone or upgrade to the newest device every year. Otherwise just stick with the old phone for two or three years and then buy the newest phone.
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That's not really true. T-Mobile released the Lollipop update for the Note 3 only 6 months after it was announced by Google. And don't forget that the T-Mobile Note 3 got the Lollipop update before the Note 4 did. That's pretty damn good in terms of supporting older devices. And I totally expect the Marshmallow update for the Note 4 to be in the same time frame.
So I'd rather pay $400 every two years and have at least one upgrade to the most recent Android version, rather than wait three years and pay $800 to get the same version and then have the same problem of waiting three years again for the Android update cycle and the manufacturer phone release cycle to line up again.
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That's not really true. T-Mobile release the Lollipop update for the Note 3 only 6 months after it was announced by Google. And don't forget that the T-Mobile Note 3 got the Lollipop update before the Note 4 did. That's pretty damn good in terms of supporting older devices. And I totally expect the Marshmallow update for the Note 4 to be in the same time frame.
So I'd rather pay $400 every two years and have at least one upgrade to the most recent Android version, rather than wait three years and pay $800 to get the same version and then have the same problem of waiting three years again for the Android update cycle and the manufacturer phone release cycle to line up again.
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Option 1(your option): upgrade from note 3 to note 4 and paying $400, you get a note 4 which can get the last upgrade to marshmallow around April, then become outdatrd again in September, you can enjoy 4 or 5 months of latest android. Marshmallow will be the last update for note 4, just like lollipop is the last update for note 3.
Option 2: hold the note 3, then next year around April, you can upgrade to note 5 for about $400, which will have marshmallow already. So for the same $400, you get a better phone which can be upgraded to android N in 2017.
Which option is better? Clearly, no point to upgrade from note 3 to note 4 at this time, Nov 2015.
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googlephone said:
Option 1(your option): upgrade from note 3 to note 4 and paying $400, you get a note 4 which can get the last upgrade to marshmallow around April, then become outdatrd again in September, you can enjoy 4 or 5 months of latest android. Marshmallow will be the last update for note 4, just like lollipop is the last update for note 3.
Option 2: hold the note 3, then next year around April, you can upgrade to note 5 for about $400, which will have marshmallow already. So for the same $400, you get a better phone which can be upgraded to android N in 2017.
Which option is better? Clearly, no point to upgrade from note 3 to note 4 at this time, Nov 2015.
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Again, assuming that there is a similar upgrade cycle for the Note 5 as there was for the Note 3 vs the Note 4, the Note 4 will get Marshmallow before the Note 5. In addition, the Note 5 won't be $400 in April. That would still be 6 months from the release of the Note 6, so it would be around $600. So you pay $600 for a Note 5 when for 6 months and $200 more you can get the Newer release? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense now, does it?
In any case, the point is that people in this thread are complaining about not getting Marshmallow on the Note 3. Well, if you want Marshmallow, then you have to upgrade. You're going to have to do it eventually. That's why I would rather upgrade now, and get a better performing phone in addition to the comfort of knowing that I will in fact get Marshmallow. Or people can wait and keep whining about what they already know they aren't going to get.

Cyanogenmod, will it ever happen?

I was wondering if there is a possibility in the future of Cyanogenmod coming to note 7? I know that you need to both root and unlock the bootloader to be able to do it. I have heard rumors of rooting note 7, though i have not investigated it yet to see if it works on the qualcomm note 7 and not only the international note 7. As for information I have the T-Mobile phone.
I really want CM for my Exynos version plz. With spen and iris integration ofc.
Yeah I forgot to add that will it be possible for the international version to get it in the future

considering buying - but software update?

I am considering of buying this phone, but I am concerned about software update since I dont want to get stuck with Marshmallow forever. and I dont want to deal with custom roms. (dont have the time or patience for that)
So, will this phone receive Nougat?
Don't buy mi5s. Xiaomi doesn't support this model like mi5 or mi max. Still no regular updates released.
Thank you. It seems odd that older model is supported and newer model is not. In that case I will not buy the device. I was planning to hold on to it for about 2-3 years and there is no way I am going to get stuck with Android 6 for that long.
What about the Redmi note 4X? Any chance for this phone to get Nougat?
Have you thought about the mi6?
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Have you thought about the mi6?
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I did, but I wont buy it for 2 reason
1. Its way more expensive than the mi5s.
2. It doesnt have a global rom yet and I assume it will take some time until it does
For the price of the mi6, I would rather get the OP3t which is cheaper and already updated to latest android
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Thank you. It seems odd that older model is supported and newer model is not. In that case I will not buy the device. I was planning to hold on to it for about 2-3 years and there is no way I am going to get stuck with Android 6 for that long.
What about the Redmi note 4X? Any chance for this phone to get Nougat?
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Note 4x is the best buy ever,already nougat beta rom and tones of aosp roms :fingers-crossed:
XMoDuLeSx said:
Note 4x is the best buy ever,already nougat beta rom and tones of aosp roms :fingers-crossed:
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My only concern is the camera

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