Hello guys, i have ordered one of these babies and being this my first HTC i was wondering if is there any trade off on moving from stock to a custom firmware?
is some other phones you have to sacrifice camera quality, or some sensor, or any specialized driver for the pleasure of having a custom rom
thanks!
Please do your research instead of opening a useless thread. Search through custom roms/ read there description and changelogs, that will give you a fair idea what the differences are regarding stock and custom.
It's an individual preference therefore no one can choose for you. Best bet is to read about the custom roms that are available,also read users comments to further indicate any known bugs.
I am using viperone 3.0 in my opinion and my own preference I think this is the best Rom in the m8 forums.
Obviously stock is standard but custom roms offer a variety of tweaks, customisation and user custom choices .
Reading will set you free...
There isn't really a plethora of custom roms available. The ones that are available are pretty popular, fast and some nice features but there's something always broken or not as stable as stock in my opinion.
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Don't get me wrong, i never asked which rom is better, i did read and understand the forum rules.
But for example, im comming from a samsung s3, where it is a known fact that any aosp roms have worse camera than touchwiz ones. It does not mean that aosp roms are worse, it is just a trade off.
I will be trying roms, i was just wonderig if there are general, well known trade off
don_ernesto said:
I will be trying roms, i was just wonderig if there are general, well known trade off
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Nope. There is no general blanket statement that can be made about this. There are a variety of ROMs, and ROM types (Sense, GPE, AOSP). In particular, the Sense ROMs are based on stock, but optimized. Therefore, there are often no "tradeoffs", just added features and better performance. Even with GPE and AOSP, it depends on what ROM you are looking at and your personal preferences. So I agree with Post #2 that you just need to read through the ROMs and decide for yourself what the pros and cons are.
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Nope. There is no general blanket statement that can be made about this. There are a variety of ROMs, and ROM types (Sense, GPE, AOSP). In particular, the Sense ROMs are based on stock, but optimized. Therefore, there are often no "tradeoffs", just added features and better performance. Even with GPE and AOSP, it depends on what ROM you are looking at and your personal preferences. So I agree with Post #2 that you just need to read through the ROMs and decide for yourself what the pros and cons are.
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If you expect to use the HTC apps like the camera software, you need to be on sense I'm pretty sure, so that might be considered a trade-off.
deefster said:
If you expect to use the HTC apps like the camera software, you need to be on sense I'm pretty sure, so that might be considered a trade-off.
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Some HTC apps work on GPE (but not AOSP). So again, it goes back to the OP reading about what works and what doesn't, versus their own personal wants and preferences. Its difficult to just say there are any blanket trade-offs.
At the very least, the OP has to be more specific in what type of ROM they are looking at (Sense, GPE, AOSP) and why (what features they like and want, and what they need). Otherwise, the question is just to vague.
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Hey guys i wanted to know whic one of these roms offers better experience!
Cause i prefer gpe ui rather than sens and i don't like like pure pure gpe!
So which one whould you choos?
Cyanogen mode11 or skydragon gpe :?
Neither of them offer better performance. These types of thread get closed everyday here on XDA. It all boils down to personal preference. Make a backup and try them out for yourself. Nobody here is you and only you can decide what works best for you.
Should we pick out your next pair of shoes for you? Want me to dress you tomorrow?
I'm sickened by people that can't make an opinion on their own and make posts like this, posts that get locked up quick.
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dmo.jr said:
Hey guys i wanted to know whic one of these roms offers better experience!
Cause i prefer gpe ui rather than sens and i don't like like pure pure gpe!
So which one whould you choos?
Cyanogen mode11 or skydragon gpe :?
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Last I checked all of the GPE ROMs are more stable. AOSP ROMs like CyanogenMod and AOKP, which task650 is working hard to build, require more work to support things like WiFi, Bluetooth, Camera, IR sensor, etc. At the moment the CM11 and AOKP builds for the M8 do not have reliable Camera functionality.
Performance wise? Any AOSP or GPE ROM had felt the same to me. Very fluid performance with no lag to speak of.
Battery life? Haven't used both enough to get a grasp but from I've seen this leans more towards gpe based software.
Stability? Crushing victory for GPE here. Their Roms contain all the proprietary stuff from HTC so naturally just about everything hardware wise is going to function just fine. All this has to be worked on heavily with any AOSP ROM due to having to find ways to get around the closed source drivers.
Customizable? I'll have to give an edge to some of the AOSP based Roms. Some such as Paranoid Android having a seemingly endless amount of options. Even GPE with gravitybox can't compare.
All in all its going to boil down to what you prefer.
SD GPE is best
(c'mon i know thats biased but what do people expect with comparison threads)
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Rom comparison threads are against forum rules. Best thing to do is to try them for yourself.
Many thanks,
Ghost
I've been pretty disappointed since the Sense stock 5.0.2 update, especially regarding battery and some lag here and there. I also have a problem with the contacts (they don't appear when people call me except if the country prefix in memorized).
I am thinking about trying a custom rom and since seeing the stock android on my mom's Moto G and really like it so from my research it seems skydragon gpe 5.1 is the best one. Anyone that tried it can give me his opinion please?
Cheers
I have tried SkyDragon GPE and I must say it is the most stable and best performing one from all the ones I've tried (and I've tried a lot), so I'd advise you to give it a shot if you're willing to go the custom route. Keep in mind that unlocking your bootloader and such will void your warranty, just in case you're still under it.
Good luck, man, and even though it might not be very smart to do all of that if you're still inexperienced, one lives to learn and you'll not regret using custom ROMs. I've been using them since the One X days and have never looked back.
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I have tried SkyDragon GPE and I must say it is the most stable and best performing one from all the ones I've tried (and I've tried a lot), so I'd advise you to give it a shot if you're willing to go the custom route. Keep in mind that unlocking your bootloader and such will void your warranty, just in case you're still under it.
Good luck, man, and even though it might not be very smart to do all of that if you're still inexperienced, one lives to learn and you'll not regret using custom ROMs. I've been using them since the One X days and have never looked back.
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Thanks a lot for your input. I am tech savvy so I believe I'll be ok
It's stable, that's great, but do we loose any features compared to Sense stock rom? Also, what's the main difference between skydragon gpe and Google stock gpe rom for the HTC One m8?
Cheers
Badelhas said:
Thanks a lot for your input. I am tech savvy so I believe I'll be ok
It's stable, that's great, but do we loose any features compared to Sense stock rom? Also, what's the main difference between skydragon gpe and Google stock gpe rom for the HTC One m8?
Cheers
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GPE and Sense are two completely different interfaces. For one thing, you won't have BlinkFeed anymore, which is perhaps the most obvious thing about using a Sense ROM. You will still, however, have the Motion Gestures, Dot View app, and a lot of the things that require HTC's framework. I believe the main difference is that SkyDragon GPE is tweaked for better performance and battery life, and is debloated from all the useless system apps and items that Google adds. You can read about the features of SkyDragon GPE and the changelogs in the dedicated thread, it'll give you a much better overview of what it is all about. I would recommend trying SkyDragon first, at least it will be easier than converting your device to GPE for a full, stock GPE experience.
I was using Sense ROMs for many months, and recently decided to try LolliGPE, specially because it allows me to use GPE features plus Sense camera and BlinkFeed. I'm using latest version and it's working flawlessly and yes, it looks beautiful! I know Skydragon GPE is good as well, but I prefer LolliGPE because it has more support in the last months.
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I was using Sense ROMs for many months, and recently decided to try LolliGPE, specially because it allows me to use GPE features plus Sense camera and BlinkFeed. I'm using latest version and it's working flawlessly and yes, it looks beautiful! I know Skydragon GPE is good as well, but I prefer LolliGPE because it has more support in the last months.
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Thank you both for the input. I think I will try lolligpe since I like sense camera. How is battery life with that rom?
I'd say battery life is subjective and dependant on your usage as well as overall conditions. Give it a shot for two or three days then judge the battery life for yourself. I believe that there was a way to install Sense camera on any GPE ROM in the Themes & Apps section of the forum but you'd have to search and find that out, just in case you're more inclined to try SkyDragon but still want the Sense camera.
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I'd say battery life is subjective and dependant on your usage as well as overall conditions. Give it a shot for two or three days then judge the battery life for yourself. I believe that there was a way to install Sense camera on any GPE ROM in the Themes & Apps section of the forum but you'd have to search and find that out, just in case you're more inclined to try SkyDragon but still want the Sense camera.
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I was inclined to skydragon gpe but the developer says he dosent have the device anymore so I expect development to decrease. I never heard of LOLLIGPE before but from the suggestion it seems to work pretty well, added that sense camera works and all. I recently received an email from HTC Support saying that they will launch an update on the end of November. I was expecting an update in August which could improve the problems I've been having but with htc with so many financial problems it doesn't seem likely. Therefore I am very eager to flash the gpe custom rom. If lolligpe is better than skydragon and everything works as it should, that's my best bet, I believe.
I wholeheartedly agree with you, then. I have not been following SkyDragon lately so I wouldn't know.
Good luck!
I just did some research in the main xda Lolligpe thread and there seems to be many users with bugs and stuff that dosent work properly. That's putting me off a bit...
In much less time than its taken for you to be posting and reading the responses, you could have just flashed the ROM, tried it out, and probably even made your judgement of it.
Just make a nandroid (TWRP backup) before you flash SD, and you can always just revert back to your current setup if you don't like the SD ROM.
And as mentioned, battery life and performance vary greatly from one user to another due to differences in how we use the device, among other variables. The only way to determine how a ROM will perform for you is to try it.
redpoint beat me to it. Stop reading about all the bugs and issues and try it yourself. You seem like you want to experience something different and you could actually develop a passion for doing that, so just go ahead and do it, there's nothing much to lose!
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In much less time than its taken for you to be posting and reading the responses, you could have just flashed the ROM, tried it out, and probably even made your judgement of it.
Just make a nandroid (TWRP backup) before you flash SD, and you can always just revert back to your current setup if you don't like the SD ROM.
And as mentioned, battery life and performance vary greatly from one user to another due to differences in how we use the device, among other variables. The only way to determine how a ROM will perform for you is to try it.
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redpoint beat me to it. Stop reading about all the bugs and issues and try it yourself. You seem like you want to experience something different and you could actually develop a passion for doing that, so just go ahead and do it, there's nothing much to lose!
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Will do, tonight's the night, thanks for the strength
Cheers
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Thank you both for the input. I think I will try lolligpe since I like sense camera. How is battery life with that rom?
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Battery life is good with ElementalX kernel. Don't be afraid about possible bugs, some users have them but depends on many things such as device model or carrier. I'm using an AT&T phone and so far everything is working as it should without any noticeable bug.
I'm looking to root as I'm out of warranty. But, I've been out of the loop for a while. What's the best M8 ROM at the moment?
I don't mind between Sense or GPE (although the phone is stock Sense). It seems like Venom might be the best option. Either that or Skydragon. But, I'm not sure. My priorities are speed/battery life. But I do need it to be relatively stable and bug-free since it'll be a daily driver.
I would really appreciate any help. Thanks in advance!
Asking "what is the best ROM" is like asking folks what your favorite color should be. Everyone has different preferences and needs. Sure, Viper and Skydragon are great. As are ICE, S.ROM, GPE, and any number of other ROMs. Sure, folks may have recommandations. But just because someone else likes it "best" has no bearing on whether you will like it or not.
I can think of at least a few times in the past, where the ROM that worked best for me, was one that was more obscure, and not so popular. You'll never find those jems, if you just flash what the is popular, or follow what folks tell you to.
Sounds like you've identified a few that look good to you. Just flash and try them out, and see what you like best.
Thanks for the advice! I completely understand that.
My only issue is that the M8 will be my main/work phone. So, I don't have that much time to explore various ROMs. I'll definitely try out a few but I would prefer to get one that works.
But the points you raised are important. In that case, I would change the question a bit. In terms of battery life/speed, what is the best ROM? I'm looking for something that is relatively smooth, fast and bug-free. Or would you say that all the ones you mentioned fit that criteria?
Again, battery life varies drastically from one person to another based on variables such as your local reception, what types of apps used, etc. All of the Sense ROMs and GPE ROMs are based on official software (but with customizations and optimizations added), and tend to be very stable and bug free. All are worthy of being reliable daily drivers. And just because I didn't mention it, doesn't mean its not a great ROM either.
Just bought myself a new HTC 10 from DWI that arrives today from Hong Kong. I'm sure it's going to be full of bloatware I dont want so I'm looking at flashing something else that is close to stock, if not stock android. It looks like Viper10 or LeeDroid are the two best options (as far as I can tell).
- What are the main differences between the two?
- Which one would I be better off with?
- How long would it take to install them?
Viper gives more customization and Lee gives speed and stability imo. I can't tell you which is better off which since it depends on your behavior using the phone. The installation process won't take more than 30 minutes, the complicate part is rooting and flashing recovery etc..
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Viper gives more customization and Lee gives speed and stability imo. I can't tell you which is better off which since it depends on your behavior using the phone. The installation process won't take more than 30 minutes, the complicate part is rooting and flashing recovery etc..
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Sounds like Lee would appeal more to me. Just started using the phone though and its amazing, no bloatware at all. Just updating to Nougat now and cant fault it - wondering if its even worth going through the hassle to root and flash it etc.
BrianKuo1853 said:
Viper gives more customization and Lee gives speed and stability imo. I can't tell you which is better off which since it depends on your behavior using the phone. The installation process won't take more than 30 minutes, the complicate part is rooting and flashing recovery etc..
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why shall our rom not be stable? We have much customizations yes, but when you install the rom, you have a pure stock look and behavior at the beginning...it's up to the user to customize.
We don't force any user use any of our customization if he does not want to....and those customization don't make the rom not running stable.
I would say all sense roms that come with a stock kernel are running stable.
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why shall our rom not be stable? We have much customizations yes, but when you install the rom, you have a pure stock look and behavior at the beginning...it's up to the user to customize.
We don't force any user use any of our customization if he does not want to....and those customization don't make the rom not running stable.
I would say all sense roms that come with a stock kernel are running stable.
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I guess everyone sees and lives thru ROMs differently. People tend to think that a feature packed ROMs are usally less stable, since they have to have loads of processes and stuff running in background, which in turn results in a FC or crash every now and then. Thus, lighter ROMs are being considered more stable :silly: Just my opinion, I'm still full stock, can't decide what to flash
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I guess everyone sees and lives thru ROMs differently. People tend to think that a feature packed ROMs are usally less stable, since they have to have loads of processes and stuff running in background, which in turn results in a FC or crash every now and then. Thus, lighter ROMs are being considered more stable :silly: Just my opinion, I'm still full stock, can't decide what to flash
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Nope.Viper is as stable as LeeDroid since they are stock based. The less stable ones are LOS based. You could categorize as less customizable more customizable.
voolandis said:
I guess everyone sees and lives thru ROMs differently. People tend to think that a feature packed ROMs are usally less stable, since they have to have loads of processes and stuff running in background, which in turn results in a FC or crash every now and then. Thus, lighter ROMs are being considered more stable :silly: Just my opinion, I'm still full stock, can't decide what to flash
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We have no additional processes running, lol. Most users don't have the knowledge how things work...but then people shouldn't judge the work of people that spent thousands of ours of their freetime into.
A general rule is though: Asking for a good rom is always wrong since people have different preferences.
You should always try out the roms yourself and make your own picture of it.
Well I did say imo..
Obviously I'm not a godly dev like you but that's just what I think, it may not apply to all of you but I was just simply answering op.
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I'm sure the guy originally asking for an opinion has now gotten a fair share of slapping.
The best way to find out, just to repeat whats been said, is to flash different ROMs and find your own preference. There is nothing objective in ROM choice, it is always entirely opinion based and as such a wonderful starter for flame wars. I love those questions. Could jump right in
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#AlternativeFacts :laugh:
Make XDA great again!
I'm sure the guy originally asking for an opinion has now gotten a fair share of slapping.
The best way to find out, just to repeat whats been said, is to flash different ROMs and find your own preference. There is nothing objective in ROM choice, it is always entirely opinion based and as such a wonderful starter for flame wars. I love those questions. Could jump right in
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What he said.
Thread closed.
Camera must good quality ?
Maby a no brainer... OOS stable?
This is not a babysitters club. Go try them out and see for yourself.
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This is not a babysitters club. Go try them out and see for yourself.
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And delete the thread. Thanks!
Stable and good camera. Stay on OOS, simple as that
what about aospa?
LOS is stable and if you know what to do even with a good camera quality. But for ppl not able to test around I fully support the OOS suggestion.
Stick to stock OOS. Custom roms can never be as stable as stock. Harsh truth.
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Stick to stock OOS. Custom roms can never be as stable as stock. Harsh truth.
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Well Oneplus has not a really stable-like reputation.
Define "stable " Siré
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Stick to stock OOS. Custom roms can never be as stable as stock. Harsh truth.
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I would have to disagree. It all depends on the rom. Builds using los as a base do tend to be a bit unstable. So does PA. Find a rom based on pure aosp that is not a cherry pick kitchen sink rom and it is just as stable or even more so.
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Camera must good quality
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Give LineAge OS from SultanXDA a try
Perfect camera, absolutely stable, great battery life
https://youtu.be/vZOL7gEKHuc
actually most ROMs on development section and cross development section are both stable and has great camera... look for the roms that has the latest Gcam (google camera), the images are as good (if not better) than stock... the camera issue is almost not a factor for sometime now...
also most roms are reasonably stable, i tried almost all of them and all depends on your taste, there are ones with a lot of features and ones with just the basics...
no one can till you what you'll like, list the set of features you require, search both forums and look into roms, read through few pages specially at the end to see the current state of the rom, search if you want to ask about something (because someone asked it before you and was answered)...narrow down your choices and select one and try... if you don't like it, try the next...etc until you like one, you'll learn a lot about what you really require in the process.
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actually most ROMs on development section and cross development section are both stable and has great camera... look for the roms that has the latest Gcam (google camera), the images are as good (if not better) than stock... the camera issue is almost not a factor for sometime now...
also most roms are reasonably stable, i tried almost all of them and all depends on your taste, there are ones with a lot of features and ones with just the basics...
no one can till you what you'll like, list the set of features you require, search both forums and look into roms, read through few pages specially at the end to see the current state of the rom, search if you want to ask about something (because someone asked it before you and was answered)...narrow down your choices and select one and try... if you don't like it, try the next...etc until you like one, you'll learn a lot about what you really require in the process.
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A warning. Those that do use the modded Google camera use a camera Hal that breaks other things. Not a worry really for the average user but Important all the same.
Try NucleaR ROM, it will surprise you
if you want real stability in custom roms, there is only one rom you can try, Paranoid Android, most stable custom rom