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[Q] Trade offs of going with Custom ROM

Hello guys, i have ordered one of these babies and being this my first HTC i was wondering if is there any trade off on moving from stock to a custom firmware?
is some other phones you have to sacrifice camera quality, or some sensor, or any specialized driver for the pleasure of having a custom rom
thanks!

Please do your research instead of opening a useless thread. Search through custom roms/ read there description and changelogs, that will give you a fair idea what the differences are regarding stock and custom.
It's an individual preference therefore no one can choose for you. Best bet is to read about the custom roms that are available,also read users comments to further indicate any known bugs.
I am using viperone 3.0 in my opinion and my own preference I think this is the best Rom in the m8 forums.
Obviously stock is standard but custom roms offer a variety of tweaks, customisation and user custom choices .
Reading will set you free...

There isn't really a plethora of custom roms available. The ones that are available are pretty popular, fast and some nice features but there's something always broken or not as stable as stock in my opinion.
HTC One M8

Don't get me wrong, i never asked which rom is better, i did read and understand the forum rules.
But for example, im comming from a samsung s3, where it is a known fact that any aosp roms have worse camera than touchwiz ones. It does not mean that aosp roms are worse, it is just a trade off.
I will be trying roms, i was just wonderig if there are general, well known trade off

don_ernesto said:
I will be trying roms, i was just wonderig if there are general, well known trade off
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Nope. There is no general blanket statement that can be made about this. There are a variety of ROMs, and ROM types (Sense, GPE, AOSP). In particular, the Sense ROMs are based on stock, but optimized. Therefore, there are often no "tradeoffs", just added features and better performance. Even with GPE and AOSP, it depends on what ROM you are looking at and your personal preferences. So I agree with Post #2 that you just need to read through the ROMs and decide for yourself what the pros and cons are.

redpoint73 said:
Nope. There is no general blanket statement that can be made about this. There are a variety of ROMs, and ROM types (Sense, GPE, AOSP). In particular, the Sense ROMs are based on stock, but optimized. Therefore, there are often no "tradeoffs", just added features and better performance. Even with GPE and AOSP, it depends on what ROM you are looking at and your personal preferences. So I agree with Post #2 that you just need to read through the ROMs and decide for yourself what the pros and cons are.
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If you expect to use the HTC apps like the camera software, you need to be on sense I'm pretty sure, so that might be considered a trade-off.

deefster said:
If you expect to use the HTC apps like the camera software, you need to be on sense I'm pretty sure, so that might be considered a trade-off.
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Some HTC apps work on GPE (but not AOSP). So again, it goes back to the OP reading about what works and what doesn't, versus their own personal wants and preferences. Its difficult to just say there are any blanket trade-offs.
At the very least, the OP has to be more specific in what type of ROM they are looking at (Sense, GPE, AOSP) and why (what features they like and want, and what they need). Otherwise, the question is just to vague.

Lg g3 d855 best rom!!

Hello to you all,
i bought recentely a g3 D855, and am having some battery draining issue, is it normal? and by the way witch rom do you suggest me to install
Thnx to you all

Interested if someone made some tests about popular roms

for me, cloudy 2.2 is the best

For me is AN 10.2 but this rom is not available in XDA (but is the best, by far)
Anyway, every user have different demands so, the best rom for me do not necessary mean is the best rom for you.

there's no best rom. all are equal and yet different in their own types. it all depends on the user. try them all pick what you most like.
and threads like this is not allowed here in XDA. no to roms/ bias

In general, you have to choose between AOSP ROMs and stock ROMs. AOSP ROMs are stock-like android versions which have neat tricks up their sleeves. They are super-light on the system(meaning it's lighting fast), you get newer versions faster, the community is bigger and you get to customize it more freely, but the cons are that the camera doesn't have the same quality as the stock ROMs and there are some missing features which are kinda-unique to our phones.
AOSP ROMs best advatage for me is the battery life but although that sounds awesome, I prefer to have all my features and especially the camera. Therefore I am still stuck with Cloudy 2.2 .

After using CM12 for a few months, I finally installed cloudy and I'm very happy. I couldn't stand the annoying bugs of CM anymore (mainly the screen which doesn't respond at random times) and it's nice to have all the native features of the G3 (nice camera, knock code...).

maurisy0 said:
there's no best rom. all are equal and yet different in their own types. it all depends on the user. try them all pick what you most like.
and threads like this is not allowed here in XDA. no to roms/ bias
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am not trying to create a survey, am just looking for the most stable release (battery drain, fluid...) and if the battery drain is normal.... lol

thnx dude,
what about battery on cloud's rom?? and is the rom stable?? thnx

Your Favorite ROMs and Tweaks

The HTC One M8 has been out just a little over a year now and it still competes with the latest flagship devices. Obviously this is an amazing device and outside of nexus devices it is my favorite phone of all time. I'm curious what most users think are the best Roms and tweaks for this device.
Tweaks:
For me...
MultiRom is a must. I got this phone roughly two months ago and fell in love with the device and as I'm a flashaholic MultiRom was an inevitability. Multi is definitely one of my favorite features of this phone and really android as a whole. Who would have thought years ago that we'd be dual booting cellphones?
Viper4Android is also a must for me. I own 3 pairs of higher end headphones; Sony MDR SA5000s, Beats By Dre Studio v2, and Sennheiser HD558 (I recently broke these) and V4A complements an audiophile with or without the BoomSound/HarmonKardon Tweak. V4A is another must for me especially when running AOSP builds.
-Small note: a newer audio tweak had made its way onto the android scene and I've found it compliments v4a quite well.
eXtreme Beats has no GUI or any settings, though it does have optional downloadable profiles for v4a that are pretty nice. In my experience eXtreme Beats on its own is fantastic and used in combination with v4a it definitely improves on even v4a's greatness. It should be noted that at the moment eXtreme doesn't seem to work with BoomSound or HarmonKardon...
OGYouTube, Material Messaging, and AdAway are three well known apps that aren't really tweaks but personal preferences I have to recommend.
Roms: I'm going to separate these into Sense based and AOSP/GPE
Sense:
as far as sense goes I feel like sense is light years ahead of touchwiz but it's still not my preferable framework. I think sense is cool and I can see why people enjoy it... Its just not my preference... That being said there are some sense Roms I enjoy.
ViperOne By Team Venom is, in my opinion, the best sense based ROM for the m8. I've followed team venom for awhile off and on and I used to not enjoy their work... Boy was I wrong. They've definitely stepped their game up over the years and have really taken custom sense Roms to an incredible level. The amount of customization they bring to the table is insane and they've brought a cm/aosp feel to sense that I never thought would happen. Again as far as sense Roms go theirs is my favorite.
LeeDrOiD: a close second...
The self proclaimed most senior sense ROM developer has created an awesome custom sense ROM. While his customization isn't quite as advanced as Team Venoms this is one man doing the work of the entire Venom Team and LD comes in a close second in my eyes. Both roms make sense a lot more tolerable (for me) and both deserve an immense amount of respect and admiration.
It should be noted that I dislike sense 7 and for the time being prefer sense 6 to 7 mainly because the amount of customization on 7 isn't yet up to par with 6.
AOSP/GPE: My personal preference...
I'm not going to comment on GPE. I'm on Verizon and I think DH has done a great job porting GPE to our CDMA devices... I just other the aosp feel to GPE.
There are an immense number of AOSP Roms but I'm only going to cover a few of my favorites.
(Newly Official!) PACman (Lollipop 5.1.1)
I'm somewhat biased as I fell in love with PAC when it was released on Jellybean. There have been several Roms that have combined pieces of what we love about some of the major custom Roms but I feel no one has ever done it as well as the devs at PAC. Combining (P)aranoidAndroid(A)OKP(C)yanogenMod PAC brings with it some of the best features of the big three. It also seems to have the best implementation of HeadsUp Notifications that I've seen on any aosp ROM including the newest PA builds. It also looks like we will soon be getting nightly builds now that we've got official support... Definitely my favorite aosp ROM... Really my favorite ROM period.
Dirty Unicorns(Lollipop 5.1.1)
I've started repeatedly that there is a big difference between compiling a build and actually developing. Many people are able to compile CyanogenMod and cherry pick features... Actual development (like PA did with PIE) is a different thing all together. We're lucky here on the m8 to have a developer who's building DU and creating some unique development. DU has several unique features and is an all around great build based off OmniRom. Probably my third favorite AOSP/CM style ROM.
SOKP (Sonic Open Kang Project: Lollipop 5.1.1):
SOKP has a ton of features and is built off of CyanogenMod. Like many of the other cherry picks its extensive amount of features are awesome and is definitely one of the more stable AOSP builds. This ROM also has the best sound quality (stock after install) of any AOSP build for the m8. The developer has put an immense amount of time in attempting to correct the sound issues plaguing AOSP/CM on the m8. Probably my second favorite m8 ROM.
AND LASTLY...
Lollipop Dream CyanogenMod (***Currently Lollipop 5.0*** hopefully we will see 5.1 soon):
This is pure CyanogenMod 12 built off Linaro toolchain with a few fixes and .odex'd for speed. While I prefer the current nightly builds to this rom, once the developer updates to 5.1 this will certainly be on my phone. Compared to raw cm these lollipop dream builds are much smoother and quicker. Definitely one of the best raw cm builds I've seen on any device.
Honorable Mention: (Official) Paranoid Android (Lollipop 5.1.1):
Paranoid Android is very well known and for me their latest official build is flawless. Others, however, have had cell signal issues and other small bugs with it. I love PA for their great innovation they've brought to the android community but unfortunately they are lacking a few small features that most lollipop builds have. It was disappointing to see they still don't have these small features. That coupled with the current compatibility some people are reporting has kept it off my list here. Though it is a very early release and I'm sure the PA team will have it up and running in no time.
So... What are your favorite Roms and tweaks you're using on your m8???
HTC One (M8) MultiRom: PACman 5.1.1; SOKP 5.1.1; CyanogenMod 12.1.1 (Nightlys updated weekly); ViperOne M8 w/Hypernova Kernel

Opinion regarding Skydragon GPE 5.1

I've been pretty disappointed since the Sense stock 5.0.2 update, especially regarding battery and some lag here and there. I also have a problem with the contacts (they don't appear when people call me except if the country prefix in memorized).
I am thinking about trying a custom rom and since seeing the stock android on my mom's Moto G and really like it so from my research it seems skydragon gpe 5.1 is the best one. Anyone that tried it can give me his opinion please?
Cheers

I have tried SkyDragon GPE and I must say it is the most stable and best performing one from all the ones I've tried (and I've tried a lot), so I'd advise you to give it a shot if you're willing to go the custom route. Keep in mind that unlocking your bootloader and such will void your warranty, just in case you're still under it.
Good luck, man, and even though it might not be very smart to do all of that if you're still inexperienced, one lives to learn and you'll not regret using custom ROMs. I've been using them since the One X days and have never looked back.

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I have tried SkyDragon GPE and I must say it is the most stable and best performing one from all the ones I've tried (and I've tried a lot), so I'd advise you to give it a shot if you're willing to go the custom route. Keep in mind that unlocking your bootloader and such will void your warranty, just in case you're still under it.
Good luck, man, and even though it might not be very smart to do all of that if you're still inexperienced, one lives to learn and you'll not regret using custom ROMs. I've been using them since the One X days and have never looked back.
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Thanks a lot for your input. I am tech savvy so I believe I'll be ok
It's stable, that's great, but do we loose any features compared to Sense stock rom? Also, what's the main difference between skydragon gpe and Google stock gpe rom for the HTC One m8?
Cheers

Badelhas said:
Thanks a lot for your input. I am tech savvy so I believe I'll be ok
It's stable, that's great, but do we loose any features compared to Sense stock rom? Also, what's the main difference between skydragon gpe and Google stock gpe rom for the HTC One m8?
Cheers
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GPE and Sense are two completely different interfaces. For one thing, you won't have BlinkFeed anymore, which is perhaps the most obvious thing about using a Sense ROM. You will still, however, have the Motion Gestures, Dot View app, and a lot of the things that require HTC's framework. I believe the main difference is that SkyDragon GPE is tweaked for better performance and battery life, and is debloated from all the useless system apps and items that Google adds. You can read about the features of SkyDragon GPE and the changelogs in the dedicated thread, it'll give you a much better overview of what it is all about. I would recommend trying SkyDragon first, at least it will be easier than converting your device to GPE for a full, stock GPE experience.

I was using Sense ROMs for many months, and recently decided to try LolliGPE, specially because it allows me to use GPE features plus Sense camera and BlinkFeed. I'm using latest version and it's working flawlessly and yes, it looks beautiful! I know Skydragon GPE is good as well, but I prefer LolliGPE because it has more support in the last months.
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SergioRmz said:
I was using Sense ROMs for many months, and recently decided to try LolliGPE, specially because it allows me to use GPE features plus Sense camera and BlinkFeed. I'm using latest version and it's working flawlessly and yes, it looks beautiful! I know Skydragon GPE is good as well, but I prefer LolliGPE because it has more support in the last months.
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Thank you both for the input. I think I will try lolligpe since I like sense camera. How is battery life with that rom?

I'd say battery life is subjective and dependant on your usage as well as overall conditions. Give it a shot for two or three days then judge the battery life for yourself. I believe that there was a way to install Sense camera on any GPE ROM in the Themes & Apps section of the forum but you'd have to search and find that out, just in case you're more inclined to try SkyDragon but still want the Sense camera.

TarekElsakka said:
I'd say battery life is subjective and dependant on your usage as well as overall conditions. Give it a shot for two or three days then judge the battery life for yourself. I believe that there was a way to install Sense camera on any GPE ROM in the Themes & Apps section of the forum but you'd have to search and find that out, just in case you're more inclined to try SkyDragon but still want the Sense camera.
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I was inclined to skydragon gpe but the developer says he dosent have the device anymore so I expect development to decrease. I never heard of LOLLIGPE before but from the suggestion it seems to work pretty well, added that sense camera works and all. I recently received an email from HTC Support saying that they will launch an update on the end of November. I was expecting an update in August which could improve the problems I've been having but with htc with so many financial problems it doesn't seem likely. Therefore I am very eager to flash the gpe custom rom. If lolligpe is better than skydragon and everything works as it should, that's my best bet, I believe.

I wholeheartedly agree with you, then. I have not been following SkyDragon lately so I wouldn't know.
Good luck!

I just did some research in the main xda Lolligpe thread and there seems to be many users with bugs and stuff that dosent work properly. That's putting me off a bit...

In much less time than its taken for you to be posting and reading the responses, you could have just flashed the ROM, tried it out, and probably even made your judgement of it.
Just make a nandroid (TWRP backup) before you flash SD, and you can always just revert back to your current setup if you don't like the SD ROM.
And as mentioned, battery life and performance vary greatly from one user to another due to differences in how we use the device, among other variables. The only way to determine how a ROM will perform for you is to try it.

redpoint beat me to it. Stop reading about all the bugs and issues and try it yourself. You seem like you want to experience something different and you could actually develop a passion for doing that, so just go ahead and do it, there's nothing much to lose!

redpoint73 said:
In much less time than its taken for you to be posting and reading the responses, you could have just flashed the ROM, tried it out, and probably even made your judgement of it.
Just make a nandroid (TWRP backup) before you flash SD, and you can always just revert back to your current setup if you don't like the SD ROM.
And as mentioned, battery life and performance vary greatly from one user to another due to differences in how we use the device, among other variables. The only way to determine how a ROM will perform for you is to try it.
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TarekElsakka said:
redpoint beat me to it. Stop reading about all the bugs and issues and try it yourself. You seem like you want to experience something different and you could actually develop a passion for doing that, so just go ahead and do it, there's nothing much to lose!
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Will do, tonight's the night, thanks for the strength
Cheers

Badelhas said:
Thank you both for the input. I think I will try lolligpe since I like sense camera. How is battery life with that rom?
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Battery life is good with ElementalX kernel. Don't be afraid about possible bugs, some users have them but depends on many things such as device model or carrier. I'm using an AT&T phone and so far everything is working as it should without any noticeable bug.

What is the best M8 ROM?

I'm looking to root as I'm out of warranty. But, I've been out of the loop for a while. What's the best M8 ROM at the moment?
I don't mind between Sense or GPE (although the phone is stock Sense). It seems like Venom might be the best option. Either that or Skydragon. But, I'm not sure. My priorities are speed/battery life. But I do need it to be relatively stable and bug-free since it'll be a daily driver.
I would really appreciate any help. Thanks in advance!

Asking "what is the best ROM" is like asking folks what your favorite color should be. Everyone has different preferences and needs. Sure, Viper and Skydragon are great. As are ICE, S.ROM, GPE, and any number of other ROMs. Sure, folks may have recommandations. But just because someone else likes it "best" has no bearing on whether you will like it or not.
I can think of at least a few times in the past, where the ROM that worked best for me, was one that was more obscure, and not so popular. You'll never find those jems, if you just flash what the is popular, or follow what folks tell you to.
Sounds like you've identified a few that look good to you. Just flash and try them out, and see what you like best.

Thanks for the advice! I completely understand that.
My only issue is that the M8 will be my main/work phone. So, I don't have that much time to explore various ROMs. I'll definitely try out a few but I would prefer to get one that works.
But the points you raised are important. In that case, I would change the question a bit. In terms of battery life/speed, what is the best ROM? I'm looking for something that is relatively smooth, fast and bug-free. Or would you say that all the ones you mentioned fit that criteria?

Again, battery life varies drastically from one person to another based on variables such as your local reception, what types of apps used, etc. All of the Sense ROMs and GPE ROMs are based on official software (but with customizations and optimizations added), and tend to be very stable and bug free. All are worthy of being reliable daily drivers. And just because I didn't mention it, doesn't mean its not a great ROM either.