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I don't own the phone yet but just checking out all the options for it (I am pretty excited to get it).
This phone seems awesome for gaming. I have seen a few HDMI mirroring videos that has got me really interested in getting a games controller for it.
I have seen you can use a wii controller but I don't really like them. I do like the idea of using a PS3 controller but the idea of paying for an app for this has put me off.
Games have started to get really good for Android (one of the reasons I am upgrading and getting this phone) but I haven't really seen any good controllers yet.
Does anyone here own a bluetooth android games controller and if so what make and is it any good?
I just use a ps3 controller, it works perfect for everything.
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Sorry, but the best bluetooth game controller for android is the PS3 controller. The app allows the controller to be used in any game. since it can also map the controller to the touch screen controls.
Anyone one that uses the Wii controller?
pinguy1982 said:
I don't own the phone yet but just checking out all the options for it (I am pretty excited to get it).
This phone seems awesome for gaming. I have seen a few HDMI mirroring videos that has got me really interested in getting a games controller for it.
I have seen you can use a wii controller but I don't really like them. I do like the idea of using a PS3 controller but the idea of paying for an app for this has put me off.
Games have started to get really good for Android (one of the reasons I am upgrading and getting this phone) but I haven't really seen any good controllers yet.
Does anyone here own a bluetooth android games controller and if so what make and is it any good?
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Great choice on phone, been lovin' mine for over a year now. And yeah, it is great for enjoying games on a large screen.
Hate to be the one to break this to ya, but if the game(s) that you are wanting to play do not have gamepad support built in you will be needing that app anyway. Even with those 'Android controllers'. In games without native support you will have to have a way to map the button presses to the touch screen equivalent. I would think that there is probably a really hard way to do that without the SixAxis app from the Play Store (or maybe there is a free app somewhere?), but, at only being 2 bucks it's a fast, easy, and really good way out. I've tried the 360 controller, the Wii, and a few others. None compare to the PS3 + SixAxis IMHO.
Im thinking about buying this controller to play emulator games on my phone. Just wondering if its worth it or is there something better out there? The only thing is missing is the bumpers how would that affect in playing a psx emulator? Does anyone have this and can tell how good this thing is?.
http://www.powera.com/moga
http://www.amazon.com/MOGA-Mobile-Gaming-System-Android/dp/B0096L2SJ0
The idea of having the phone attached directly to the controller is cool. But for the money, you would be better off buying a wireless PS3 controller and connect your phone through bluetooth via this app. At least then you can still use the controller for a PS3 or PC if needed.
Additionally, you can buy this extremely affordable Suction Ball Stand to set your phone on a desk/surface when gaming.
I managed to grab one of the MOGAs when they did their free+shipping Christmas offer. It works well, but I haven't tried it on any emulators yet.
I like it, but it is a questionable value at the $50 price point.. Like the prior reply, a PS3 remote would probably be better, but I couldn't pass up the chance to grab the MOGA for $5.
Google SNES Controller Bluetooth" or similar and bang out an affordable hack!
If you play at more 3rd Gen+ HW like PS1 etc. Maybe not ideal.
It does give you +3 to Nerdery and +2 to OG Rep though.
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Im thinking about buying this controller to play emulator games on my phone. Just wondering if its worth it or is there something better out there? The only thing is missing is the bumpers how would that affect in playing a psx emulator? Does anyone have this and can tell how good this thing is?.
http://www.powera.com/moga
http://www.amazon.com/MOGA-Mobile-Gaming-System-Android/dp/B0096L2SJ0
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no support for any emulator or the games at this time but it is being worked on by the developers only games that will work with the moga game controller is the ones in the moga pivot app that syncs with the controller all other games are being coded by the developers to work with the moga, heres a list of games i have that work great
1.Asphalt 7<<<<apk
2.dead trigger
3.dungeon hunter<<<<apk
4.N.O.V.A. 3<<<<apk
5.pacman
6.sonic cd<<<apk
7.TDKR batman dark night rises<<<apk
all these games work great with the moga also via mini hdmi with my flat screen tv also there still other great games like grand theft auto & modern combat 4 wild blood and others soon to come that are being coded to work with the moga game controller also noted battery life not bad:good: i say great controller for on the go and for at home via hdmi with your galaxy S2, i got the moga when it frist came out and still works great.
caught this on engadget today. http://impulsecontroller.com/ Might be something to consider depending on what you're looking for
I was able to grab up a MOGA when they were giving them away, and I have both the official and the unofficial driver app (for emulators) on both my GS2 and Nexus 7 and I have to say that the controller works pretty fantastic both for emulators and for official games. Overall it is a great product that seems well made and manufactures, it connects fast with no issues, and is responsive. It still has L and R shoulder Buttons just no "L2" or "R2" which im guessing is what people refer to as bumpers. One downside for me with the MOGA though, is when playing NES/SNES/PSX emulation most prefer to have a D-Pad rather than be forced to use an analog stick. The MOGA has two nice analog sticks, but I think the lack of a D-pad is a downside on this compact model. A full size MOGA (Edit: http://www.destructoid.com/ces-full-size-moga-pro-controller-announced-for-android-241931.phtml here it is.) which looks more like a PS3 controller is supposed to be released soon as well, so be sure to google that before making a final decision.
For the money though, I agree with a few posts above me. There are pros and cons to both controllers, but If you are using it for mostly emulator gaming, I'd spend the money on a PS3 controller and use that. It'll be more comfortable, have more buttons, and can be set up great for emulators. The moga also works well, don't get me wrong... it's very portable, flat and fits well with your tablet or phone wherever you stash it, but if you don't have to worry about the portability factor then I'd take the PS3 controller over the moga still any time.
Bottom line. It's a great product that does what it says, but I wouldn't have bought one for the price tag if I hadnt gotten it for free in the deal. I would've eventually went PS3 or waited for the full size moga to drop.
I have a Moga controller and its freaking awesome.. Honestly it is more responsive in games than the PS3 controller was.. Not to mention they have alot of games are are optimized for the controller. Also If you download the universal driver the controller will work in unsupported games also.. For example GTA 3 doesn't work with the Moga app, but when you run the universal driver it works great..
Has anybody tried this ion go pad? Would it be compatible with our phone?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004YC4NN0/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?ie=UTF8&m=A9VBWN1Q1U6E6
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would love to try if it were like $20
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I was extremely disappointed in the nexus 10's laggy HDMI out. Anyone know the performance on the nexus 7 now? I hope to play emulators on the television.
I'm hoping for lag under 500ms. Really under 100 preferred.
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Good question, although personally I would want lag to be under 30ms for gaming.
Well really as low as possible. But I don't want to be greedy.
If it has good performance, I'll be playing my favorite old SNES games : D
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I am experiencing lag using slimport. I have an HDMI adapter for my Note 2, and it works great. With the Nexus, there is a slight lag even if you are using basic apps. Has anyone else ran into this issue?
Thanks!
Locklear308 said:
Well really as low as possible. But I don't want to be greedy.
If it has good performance, I'll be playing my favorite old SNES games : D
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I am experiencing lag using slimport. I have an HDMI adapter for my Note 2, and it works great. With the Nexus, there is a slight lag even if you are using basic apps. Has anyone else ran into this issue?
Thanks!
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Are you using a slimport adapter or something generic?
thatguych4rlie said:
Are you using a slimport adapter or something generic?
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This one!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009UZBLSG/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I am experiencing lag using slimport. I have an HDMI adapter for my Note 2, and it works great. With the Nexus, there is a slight lag even if you are using basic apps. Has anyone else ran into this issue?
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I suggested the lag might be because the slimport adapter (according to reviews) is always sending HDCP (encrypted content) even for content that doesn't need to be copy protected.
I don't know for sure if that is the cause, but HDCP can introduce slight delays depending on the equipment.
Some people claim to use HDFury to strip the HDCP and use VGA input on their displays. I presume they feel HDFury can process HDCP faster than their TV can. However, if the issue is on the nexus or slimport adapter side, then HDFury really wouldn't help because the lag already happened.
I don't know if this is the case, just providing info for you to look into.
I suppose one could buy the VGA slimport adapter and test that theory out as VGA doesn't have HDCP.
BTW does anyone know how the always-on HDCP protection is working on these slimport adapters?
Is it
N7(HDCP1)---->(HDCP1)SlimPort(HDCP2)---->(HDCP2)TV
where HDCP1 and HDCP2 are 2 separate encryption/decryption cycles.
or is it
N7(HDCP1)---->(HDCP1)SlimPort(HDCP1)---->(HDCP1)TV
Where HDCP1 is more of a pass-through across the slimport adapter.
I looked at the specs for the slimport transmitter and receiver chips here:
http://www.analogix.com/pdf/ANX7805_PB.pdf
http://www.analogix.com/pdf/ANX7730_PB.pdf
and it seems both transmitter and receiver have HDCP capabilities, so it seems like the first option is a possibility.
Just got my slimport, it works great for games with almost no lag. I noticed the home screens are the only source of minor lag
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Locklear308 said:
Just got my slimport, it works great for games with almost no lag. I noticed the home screens are the only source of minor lag
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Thanks a lot mate! Going to order my slimport adapter now that I know for sure threre's no significant lag and its suitable for game playing
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Just got my slimport, it works great for games with almost no lag. I noticed the home screens are the only source of minor lag
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I would like to know which Slimport adapter you are using and also your HDMI cable. I just received my analogical Slimport adapter and there is definitely a lag when playing games. Works fine for viewing videos showing pictures, but I have a logitech revue that I can use for that.
I Tried to play some SNES games and the lag made them almost unplayable. Killer instinct and super Mario world were the games I tried. I really hope it's my HDMI cable, but since it works fine with my PS3, then I think it might be the slimport adapter. If that's the case, it really sucks that I wasted $30.
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I would like to know which Slimport adapter you are using and also your HDMI cable. I just received my analogical Slimport adapter and there is definitely a lag when playing games. Works fine for viewing videos showing pictures, but I have a logitech revue that I can use for that.
I Tried to play some SNES games and the lag made them almost unplayable. Killer instinct and super Mario world were the games I tried. I really hope it's my HDMI cable, but since it works fine with my PS3, then I think it might be the slimport adapter. If that's the case, it really sucks that I wasted $30.
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Really? I've been playing ocarina of time! Hmmm...HDMI cable is a 3 dollar one and cable is the official slimport brand
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Locklear308 said:
Really? I've been playing ocarina of time! Hmmm...HDMI cable is a 3 dollar one and cable is the official slimport brand
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So it appears the TV you use plays a factor. I was originally testing the Slimport adapter with my 32 Inch Phillips LCD TV, model # 32PFL3504D/F7. I went to my bed room and plugged it into my Walmart brand 26 inch ILO TV and to my surprise, I was a able to initiate combos on Killer Instinct with no lag at all.
Not only was it an older seemingly lower grade TV, I was using the lowest grade HDMI cable I had, one I paid $2 for on Amazon. So I took the cable from the ILO TV and went back to the living room to test it with the Philips TV. It produced the same crappy results as my other two High quality HDMI cables.
What I did notice though, is that it wasn't a lag from the nexus 7 2nd gen to the TV but a complete tablet lag. Everything was delayed by a half a second even while looking at the tablet vs looking at the TV. I have no idea why but I have no lag on one TV using my ps3 controller wireless and I have noticeable lag using the same set up on another TV. Also the lag shows on the tablet as well...
Guess it's time for a new living room TV. I wanted to get a bigger screen TV anyway but couldn't justify a reason. Could you tell me what TV you are using?
jabbajawz said:
So it appears the TV you use plays a factor. I was originally testing the Slimport adapter with my 32 Inch Phillips LCD TV, model # 32PFL3504D/F7. I went to my bed room and plugged it into my Walmart brand 26 inch ILO TV and to my surprise, I was a able to initiate combos on Killer Instinct with no lag at all.
Not only was it an older seemingly lower grade TV, I was using the lowest grade HDMI cable I had, one I paid $2 for on Amazon. So I took the cable from the ILO TV and went back to the living room to test it with the Philips TV. It produced the same crappy results as my other two High quality HDMI cables.
What I did notice though, is that it wasn't a lag from the nexus 7 2nd gen to the TV but a complete tablet lag. Everything was delayed by a half a second even while looking at the tablet vs looking at the TV. I have no idea why but I have no lag on one TV using my ps3 controller wireless and I have noticeable lag using the same set up on another TV. Also the lag shows on the tablet as well...
Guess it's time for a new living room TV. I wanted to get a bigger screen TV anyway but couldn't justify a reason. Could you tell me what TV you are using?
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A samsung, 40 inch, 120hz 1920x1080.
Althought I am going to try it on my asus, 21.5 inch 1920x1080 IPS display. :3
Locklear308 said:
A samsung, 40 inch, 120hz 1920x1080.
Althought I am going to try it on my asus, 21.5 inch 1920x1080 IPS display. :3
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Thanks man. I was definitely thinking Samsung since they are the leader in electronics right now. I wonder if best buy will allow me to plug my Nexus seven in via slimport adapter to test HDMI performance?
I picked up the Rockfish adapter from Best Buy after they dropped the price to $29. It works well and was easy to set up with the Shield, but I'm noticing there's a bit of lag between what shows up on the Shield screen versus the TV screen. For example, pull down the notification window, and you see it happen on the TV slightly after you do on the Shield. The beta switch to improve Miracast for gaming seemed to help a little bit, but the delay is still visible.
Are there any particular adapters that work better? I realize the Rockfish/Best Buy brand isn't exactly known for high performance, but I can see how it would be great for easy media consumption.
Ultimately, I'd like to play games like NOVA 3 on the big screen without a goofy 15' HDMI cable running to my Shield. I love portable gaming, but I'm getting old enough to where tiny screens don't cut the mustard for my eyes the way they used to.
I also wonder which brand miracast adapter that can play the games without any lag but so far i know is all the miracast adapter giving little lag when playing games.
Seems silly but it works,
the best way to have a wireless experience (sort of) with a TV and a Shield is with an Xbox 360 controler.
Get a OTG usb adapter and conect to it the wireless receiver for a xbox 360 and a the controller will work. So now you can have your shield with hdmi cable to the tv and you in your sofa with a xbox wireless controller.
king conan said:
Seems silly but it works,
the best way to have a wireless experience (sort of) with a TV and a Shield is with an Xbox 360 controler.
Get a OTG usb adapter and conect to it the wireless receiver for a xbox 360 and a the controller will work. So now you can have your shield with hdmi cable to the tv and you in your sofa with a xbox wireless controller.
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Not all apps 100% support the wireless version of the xbox controller though even if they support wired controllers (actually a driver issue)
I saw this miracast adapter is recommend by shield
http://www.actiontec.com/products/cat_desc.php?fid=63
Does anyone have it and is that any lag when playing games?
SixSixSevenSeven said:
Not all apps 100% support the wireless version of the xbox controller though even if they support wired controllers (actually a driver issue)
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And pc streaming, does it work with the Xbox controller at least?
jdsemler said:
I picked up the Rockfish adapter from Best Buy after they dropped the price to $29. It works well and was easy to set up with the Shield, but I'm noticing there's a bit of lag between what shows up on the Shield screen versus the TV screen. For example, pull down the notification window, and you see it happen on the TV slightly after you do on the Shield. The beta switch to improve Miracast for gaming seemed to help a little bit, but the delay is still visible.
Are there any particular adapters that work better? I realize the Rockfish/Best Buy brand isn't exactly known for high performance, but I can see how it would be great for easy media consumption.
Ultimately, I'd like to play games like NOVA 3 on the big screen without a goofy 15' HDMI cable running to my Shield. I love portable gaming, but I'm getting old enough to where tiny screens don't cut the mustard for my eyes the way they used to.
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Did they just drop the price recently? The Best Buy site still says it's $80
hurrpancakes said:
Did they just drop the price recently? The Best Buy site still says it's $80
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Yeah, it was only on sale for a few days. The price has gone back up since then.
I think some games do better than others. I originally tried NOVA 3 then some emulators, and it was a terrible experience. I tried Bard's Tale from the Android Market just for kicks, and it was actually very good.
Your mileage may vary.
Been using this http://www.actiontec.com/products/63.php for the past few days. Works great, surfing the web, videos, 1 to 1, Shadowgun : deadzone , and gaming in general are all fantastic. There is a minimal lag when playing online death match, I'm talking a hairline of a millisecond. Overall definitely worth the $69. price!
GatesHD said:
Works great, surfing the web, videos, 1 to 1, Shadowgun : deadzone , and gaming in general are all fantastic. There is a minimal lag when playing online death match, I'm talking a hairline of a millisecond. Overall definitely worth the $69. price!
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No kidding? Damn, I had talked myself out of buying this once already... tell me something bad about it please?
If u have the 69 bux don't hesitate. There is nothing better than shield and mirroring with this box. Just like the official case this is another "must have"
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Furyus said:
No kidding? Damn, I had talked myself out of buying this once already... tell me something bad about it please?
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The man in the shop will take your monies in exchange?
While I love the thought of being able to wirelessly display my shield's content on my 60" screen, all this talk about lag is going to keep me on the side lines for a while. I currently have a 10ft. HDMI calble connect to the Mini HDMI cable plugged into the shield. It works great, zero lag and very little pixelation during game play. I do not think you are going to get a better response while playing games than this setup. I have little to no patience for lag duing gameplay. I would love to be able to go cable free, but it seems everyone is experiencing some sort of lag with their miracast connection.
I think I will wait for the wife to start screaming at me about the cable running across the living room floor, before I break down and buy a miracast adapter for my TV.
Das, go to a tiger direct and buy it.. Can always return it. Or buy online. Trust me, I am VERY picky as well. I have a lot of toys and have this mirrored to a Samsung d8000 55" its flawless. The wire is tacky and holding the shield with that little bit of cord weight is a pain. Get it, then gimme a thumbs up!
And BTW:: Shadowgun : Deadzone I am always top 3 even when mirroring.
das7771 said:
While I love the thought of being able to wirelessly display my shield's content on my 60" screen, all this talk about lag is going to keep me on the side lines for a while. I currently have a 10ft. HDMI calble connect to the Mini HDMI cable plugged into the shield. It works great, zero lag and very little pixelation during game play. I do not think you are going to get a better response while playing games than this setup. I have little to no patience for lag duing gameplay. I would love to be able to go cable free, but it seems everyone is experiencing some sort of lag with their miracast connection.
I think I will wait for the wife to start screaming at me about the cable running across the living room floor, before I break down and buy a miracast adapter for my TV.
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Das, go to a tiger direct and buy it.. Can always return it. Or buy online. Trust me, I am VERY picky as well. I have a lot of toys and have this mirrored to a Samsung d8000 55" its flawless. The wire is tacky and holding the shield with that little bit of cord weight is a pain. Get it, then gimme a thumbs up!
And BTW:: Shadowgun : Deadzone I am always top 3 even when mirroring.
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I will look online this weekend. I also have a Tiger Direct pretty close. It would be nice not to have to pull my cable out every night. Hopefully I will like it. Thanks for convincing me.... lol
das7771 said:
I will look online this weekend. I also have a Tiger Direct pretty close. It would be nice not to have to pull my cable out every night. Hopefully I will like it. Thanks for convincing me.... lol
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Yah, it always takes a lot of "CONVINCING" for me to continue to dump $$$'s at my toys. Let me know how u like it... The freedom from the dongle hdmi cable, is bliss!
Let me know what you think of it when you bu it I'm going to be looking for one of these types of devices in coming months
Since the screenbeam pro is optimize for shield and i might getting it one later to play games on my big tv. The price for screenbeam pro can consider cheap also.
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I bought the screanbeam pro over the weekend, and I am not a big fan of it. I noticed about a half second lag while doing anything. You also can't stream your pc games using miracast as it uses the wifi signal so you can only stream android games to the tv wirelessly which is a bummer for me. I play more pc games on my shield than android games right now so I really have no use for it.
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I bought the screanbeam pro over the weekend, and I am not a big fan of it. I noticed about a half second lag while doing anything. You also can't stream your pc games using miracast as it uses the wifi signal so you can only stream android games to the tv wirelessly which is a bummer for me. I play more pc games on my shield than android games right now so I really have no use for it.
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So you mean that using the screenbeam pro even playing the android games also have half second lag right but i though it is optimize for the shield and the lag is very less and you will not notice it?
Hello everybody,
I like playing games on my phone a lot, yet i really don't like the touch screen controls, for lack of feedback and responsiveness, therefore i am in the market for an external controller.
I have simple requirements for it :
>Must use Bluetooth connection since my phone (OPPO find 5) does not support OTG
>Must be compatible with my windows 8 laptop
>Must be compatible with Android emulators like FPSe and NESoid emulators
>should have 2 analog sticks
>Should be easy to set up
What do you guys suggest?
I'm interested too
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MOGA Pro, I reviewed it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2351418
They have a new version now, MOGA Power Pro which has built-in extra capacity battery that actually charges your phone while you play, and it has an improved clip to hold bigger phones like Note 2/Note 3.
To be honest, I'm not much into game playing, and only used it for a little bit, but its definitely THE WAY to go if you want to play games on your phone with external controller. Or even better, connect your phone to tv through HDMI adapter, and play your phone or tablet games on big screen.
There is also a long discussion about iPega wireless game controller in this Accessories section of XDA, just look down a few threads below. Its a bit cheaper and also very popular. But MOGA has a much better built quality, and with POWER version offers a great way to charge your phone since you know it will get drained quickly during game play.