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Even though it has no volume buttons on the remote,will the Fire TV have any other source of volume control, maybe within the apps or perhaps using a keyboard media keys?
This would be great for those using PC speakers that don't have a remote or for not having to use two remotes. Of all the set tops I have used, only Chromecast allows volume control via app. I can even turn off the phone's screen and still be able to use the volume buttons.
I like the idea of controlling my volume with the FTV remote. It's android so maybe someone could tie system volume to the up and down buttons on the ring button of the FTV remote during video play back or audio playback. I do recognize there are times when you want to use the up and down rather than volume control though.
Just my $0.02
Yea I am trying to watch prime movie right now and I can barley here it with my tv volume all the way up. Volume boosting options would be nice too
I also second this requirement. Using NetFlix with my Bluetooth speakers is a pain to control volume. Would be awesome to be able to use AFTV own remote control.
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Wrong reply... Sorry.
I ended up with buying speakers or an amplifier with a volume remote control instead.
Under 13, XBMC had a volume control that let you adjust gain during video playback (not music playback, IIRC.)
So it's possible to adjust the gain of the digital output - but it's important to understand that it is a digital output, whether via HDMI or optical out, and many apps simply will not touch a digital volume - doing so in some ways defeats the point of digitally reproducing sound since in theory you want to avoid altering the signal in the digital domain, you want to get it to the analog gain stage untouched, and then increase the signal amplitude there.
Ah, figured it out:
You need to disable passthrough in the audio menu of the video you're watching -- failing to do that means that you're telling the system 'pass through an exact copy of the audio' - which precludes fiddling with the gain of the signal (and thus compressing it.)
Once that's done, the gain slider operates.
Kodi has controls for adjusting the volume. I use Lepai 2.1 amplifier with 2 speakers and a passive sub-woofer. I use Kodi to watch my OTA (Over-the-Air) digital recordings. It goes from HDMI, to the TOS digital out, converted to RCA out to the amplifier. If Kodi can adjust the volume for the recorded OTA programming, there is now reason why FireTv does not have some main volume control. That would be nice.
cavagnaro said:
I also second this requirement. Using NetFlix with my Bluetooth speakers is a pain to control volume. Would be awesome to be able to use AFTV own remote control.
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did you find a way to do it by any chance?
It's a shame that no solution to this has been found. I get that Kodi has it but that's not all I watch with my firestick.
Curious, what happens if you connect a media remote (BT keyboard or Rii style remote) and press the volume controls? On my old Android AMLogic box, it adjusts the system volume. This works for me because I use an analog amplifier and projector for watching, and just turn the amp a little higher than I usually want it. That way I can "turn down" the system volume to about 75% and then go up and down as needed for whatever I'm watching.
I'm thinking of replacing my box with a Fire Stick (the lack of native DRM content in HD is getting to me, I only get HD with Kodi), but this very basic functionality might be a deal breaker for me. I know the new remotes have volume but they control the TV / reciever's IR (if there is one). I want to adjust the Android system volume! Is there no way on the Fire OS?
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Curious, what happens if you connect a media remote (BT keyboard or Rii style remote) and press the volume controls? On my old Android AMLogic box, it adjusts the system volume. This works for me because I use an analog amplifier and projector for watching, and just turn the amp a little higher than I usually want it. That way I can "turn down" the system volume to about 75% and then go up and down as needed for whatever I'm watching.
I'm thinking of replacing my box with a Fire Stick (the lack of native DRM content in HD is getting to me, I only get HD with Kodi), but this very basic functionality might be a deal breaker for me. I know the new remotes have volume but they control the TV / reciever's IR (if there is one). I want to adjust the Android system volume! Is there no way on the Fire OS?
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i have a rii remote the volume buttons dont do anything. for full use of these remotes the device has to be full android not modified like amazon has. rii remotes are great with rooted firetv with xposed edge. i havent used kodi in min but i use to have my remote mapped to turn up volume amplication on low sounding videos.
Aw man. I already have full android devices, but the cheap ones (read: anything that isn't as obscenely priced as an nvidia shield) don't handle DRM content like Amazon and Netflix in anything more than 480p. I seriously hate how complicated DRM makes things, I pay for Amazon and Netflix, but to get full quality content out of my device it's easier to pirate it with a Kodi plug in. Ridiculous.
I was hoping a Fire Stick could be a good alternative, but it sounds like it has its own user experience issues in the way I want to use it.
Rooted Fire TV w/Exposed- does that work on all editions of the stick? And would the volume buttons work then as well?
Dishe said:
Curious, what happens if you connect a media remote (BT keyboard or Rii style remote) and press the volume controls? On my old Android AMLogic box, it adjusts the system volume. This works for me because I use an analog amplifier and projector for watching, and just turn the amp a little higher than I usually want it. That way I can "turn down" the system volume to about 75% and then go up and down as needed for whatever I'm watching.
I'm thinking of replacing my box with a Fire Stick (the lack of native DRM content in HD is getting to me, I only get HD with Kodi), but this very basic functionality might be a deal breaker for me. I know the new remotes have volume but they control the TV / reciever's IR (if there is one). I want to adjust the Android system volume! Is there no way on the Fire OS?
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Dishe said:
Aw man. I already have full android devices, but the cheap ones (read: anything that isn't as obscenely priced as an nvidia shield) don't handle DRM content like Amazon and Netflix in anything more than 480p. I seriously hate how complicated DRM makes things, I pay for Amazon and Netflix, but to get full quality content out of my device it's easier to pirate it with a Kodi plug in. Ridiculous.
I was hoping a Fire Stick could be a good alternative, but it sounds like it has its own user experience issues in the way I want to use it.
Rooted Fire TV w/Exposed- does that work on all editions of the stick? And would the volume buttons work then as well?
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yes xposed edge would work with any rooted device(need xposed installer) however no control over fire tv volume believe its fixed. edge allows for button remapping which pairs well with a rii remote, makes all the buttons that have no function with fire tv have a function of your choice
Hey guys,
I just pre-ordered an Amazon Fire TV here in Germany and I have a specific question for which I didn't find an answer yet. Everybody is saying that the AFTV has basic CEC functionality. I just wanted to know what this means in detail? Which keys are working and which are not? I heard that the arrow keys and the OK/select key are working. But what about the back, the home and the multimedia buttons (play/pause etc.)? I would be very glad if someone could answer this question (espacially with a Sony Bravia TV).
Thanks in advance. I'm looking forward for an answer.
elmurato said:
Hey guys,
I just pre-ordered an Amazon Fire TV here in Germany and I have a specific question for which I didn't find an answer yet. Everybody is saying that the AFTV has basic CEC functionality. I just wanted to know what this means in detail? Which keys are working and which are not? I heard that the arrow keys and the OK/select key are working. But what about the back, the home and the multimedia buttons (play/pause etc.)? I would be very glad if someone could answer this question (espacially with a Sony Bravia TV).
Thanks in advance. I'm looking forward for an answer.
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I would like to know that too. I have a Samsung tv and the only cec function I can see fire tv performing is when I wake the device up from sleep it automatically shifts my tv from cable to fire tv screen and turns on the sound system if its off. But nothing on the TV remote works.
Sc0rp10 said:
I would like to know that too. I have a Samsung tv and the only cec function I can see fire tv performing is when I wake the device up from sleep it automatically shifts my tv from cable to fire tv screen and turns on the sound system if its off. But nothing on the TV remote works.
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On my toshia the arrows and select were working. But there was no back or home.
Sony here, no back/home... seems the best u can have until a hack.
c0mm0n said:
Sony here, no back/home... seems the best u can have until a hack.
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Damn. So for now its unusable via CEC, right? Without a back button it's not possible to exit menus... Could you try the media buttons too, please? I mean play/pause/stop. Thanks!
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Damn. So for now its unusable via CEC, right? Without a back button it's not possible to exit menus... Could you try the media buttons too, please? I mean play/pause/stop. Thanks!
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I'm pretty sure play/pause worked for me. But I just got a FLIRC. Much better and more flexible.
Not working for me. Panasonic TV.
with pi it works perfectly...
actually the TV DO recognize there's a hdmi CEC supported device but none of the buttons do something
Tested on Sanyo TV designed for use with roku.
Directions and media buttons work.
Back works (but brings up roku qr overlay)
the Exit button also functions as Back.
Hey,
My FireTV is connected to my Onkyo TX-NR626 amp and from there to my LG TV, I can control the FireTV with the remote of the Onkyo and everything is working, select, back, directions, play, pause, and skip
But you have to enter a code for a RIHD (CEC) enabled device on the remote, the code is 31612 if I'am not wrong
The only thing that is not working is you can't wake up the FireTV out of the standby
Gesendet von meinem HTC One_M8 mit Tapatalk
Sony Bravia Sync
Tested on an old KDL55-W4000!
Sony calls its CEC compatibility "Bravia Sync". With "Bravia Sync" activated, the following commands work via my TV's remote: Play, Stop, Back-Button, Forward, Rewind, Direction-Keys and Enter ...
With the Sony-Command "Sync Menu", the TV checks for connected devices at HDMI ports and even activates the FireTV from sleep-mode ... If the FireTV is activated, the same button "Sync Menu" opens the Options in FireTV (e.g. skipping to next episode or language selection)
Unfortunately, the only button not yet found by now via CEC, is the "HOME" button. By that button missing, you might get stucked, e. g. in the youtube app for FireTV, because the Back-Button does not go back to main menu of FireTV but stays in the YouTube-App and shows the Search-Site ...
If anyone has a Sony-TV, sending a "HOME"-command via CEC, please contact me, so I can properly set up my Harmony to send the command on my Sony-TV, too (sometimes, not all commands the tv is capable of, are buttons on the remote ... let's give it a try).
Hope, that has helped someone ... Please get back to me, if "Home" is available. Otherwise, I will not use YouTube-App
I don't know anything about CEC on other platforms. I just got a Fire TV two days ago.
I was very happily surprised when my TV's remote (Sony Bravia 47") worked on the Fire. My Girlfriend grabbed the TV remote as we were setting the fire up, and many of the commands were mapped to Sony remote buttons. Since I had cloned the remote to my Universal Remote URC20, it also works. I can create macros and treat the Fire TV like it has an IR remote. Very handy functionality.
All I have done is navigation, backward, forward, select, etc. Of course, you need the Fire remote for voice control.
Someone in another thread said that Samsung TVs didn't run commands back through HDMI. So, obviously ot depends on TV manufacturer.
On my LG TV, CEC is not working. In fact when Fire TV is connected CEC is not working for any device connected to the TV.
I had no problem with a rasberry PI used before I got the Fire TV.
Sc0rp10 said:
I would like to know that too. I have a Samsung tv and the only cec function I can see fire tv performing is when I wake the device up from sleep it automatically shifts my tv from cable to fire tv screen and turns on the sound system if its off. But nothing on the TV remote works.
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I also have a Samsung, I found out that Play/Pause and FF/REW are the only one's that works. lol pretty disappointing.
Latest TV firmware UE55D8000/5 v2 (there are later firmwares on the web than ota updates for some odd reason).
Latest Preerooted firmware on aFTV.
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On my LG TV, CEC is not working. In fact when Fire TV is connected CEC is not working for any device connected to the TV.
I had no problem with a rasberry PI used before I got the Fire TV.
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Hmm. What year is the TV? My 2013 LG remote has no problem with the Fire TV.
Cec is a pita for me and my lg 55ub8500, it works fine if you have the TV on and then power the firetv on.. But if you have the firetv on and power on the TV.. It's a no go until you restart the ftv. Would be ok I'd the ftv would turn off but mine stays on like 24/7.
If your lg TV is new (2014) turn on simplink in the menus and setup your hdmi port to be a denon Avr(or any device that supports cec, not all do) and it should work
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Tested on an old KDL55-W4000!
Sony calls its CEC compatibility "Bravia Sync". With "Bravia Sync" activated, the following commands work via my TV's remote: Play, Stop, Back-Button, Forward, Rewind, Direction-Keys and Enter ...
With the Sony-Command "Sync Menu", the TV checks for connected devices at HDMI ports and even activates the FireTV from sleep-mode ... If the FireTV is activated, the same button "Sync Menu" opens the Options in FireTV (e.g. skipping to next episode or language selection)
Unfortunately, the only button not yet found by now via CEC, is the "HOME" button. By that button missing, you might get stucked, e. g. in the youtube app for FireTV, because the Back-Button does not go back to main menu of FireTV but stays in the YouTube-App and shows the Search-Site ...
If anyone has a Sony-TV, sending a "HOME"-command via CEC, please contact me, so I can properly set up my Harmony to send the command on my Sony-TV, too (sometimes, not all commands the tv is capable of, are buttons on the remote ... let's give it a try).
Hope, that has helped someone ... Please get back to me, if "Home" is available. Otherwise, I will not use YouTube-App
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Same on my 2013 Sony TV, the remote's HOME button functions as Android's MENU button, whilst the remote's OPTIONS button does nothing. Shame, so close to being perfect. Still hoping the Fire TV will get a working root and that we can change the HDMI-CEC options that way.
I just bought a Noname 40" TV (Hisense LTDN40D36SEU) and was really surprised that it supports CEC quite well!
Nav, OK, Play, Pause, < Skip > and even Stop (! Not even on the Fire TV Remote itself) are working perfectly.
Just hoping to find a way to get Home and Context working. As theres a way to go to a Developer-Page on the TV, even with dumping firmware Option, im optimistic to get it fixed one day. Or, even better as Spence1115 said, hopefully Someday Root on the FireTV and a way to change it over here.
i had conflict on my samsung smart tv 2014 when connecting the AFTV it also played havoc with my receiver so i have decided to use a cec less adaptor and it worked a treat just in case anyone wanted to know and if they get conflicts (mine was connecting and disconnecting all my devices randomly)
Hi.
I just got a LG 42lb5600 and I can't even see the simplink option.
No buttons work on the fire.
Is there a firmware update or something I can do?
I hope that one day we will get the ability to program certain key presses through CEC on the Fire TV. Works great with sideloaded Kodi on my fireTV Stick but sadly no context or home functionality.
So to my surprise, my regular sony tv remote (IR) is able to control my AFTV out of the box. i originally thought i would need to buy a USB IR blaster for this. However, my guess is the Bravia sync is playing the part here. I seem to be able to replicate most things (directional pad, select, return) but don't think i have a button on here that can do the Home button or the Contextual (Hamburger menu) button.
Is there a way to configure this somehow?
barrist said:
So to my surprise, my regular sony tv remote (IR) is able to control my AFTV out of the box. i originally thought i would need to buy a USB IR blaster for this. However, my guess is the Bravia sync is playing the part here. I seem to be able to replicate most things (directional pad, select, return) but don't think i have a button on here that can do the Home button or the Contextual (Hamburger menu) button.
Is there a way to configure this somehow?
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Hi,
I have a Bravia also and my Sony remote controls the Fire TV. You're correct that the Bravia Sync (CEC) is doing the job.
On my Sony remote the blue "Home" button works as the Context (hamburger) button, at least in XBMC it does.
I can't find a button that replicates the Fire TV "Home" button though, and I don't believe there's an way to configure this.
Does yours work ok all of the time? For me, after a while the FireTV seems to break all my CEC communication, so my TV stops controlling my audio system and doesn't see any connected devices, only pulling the power from the FireTV will fix this, but then after a while (sometimes hours, sometimes a couple of days) it breaks again.
It's using the HDMI cable/slot that my WDTV Live SMP was using and that never had a problem so I don't think it's the HDMI cable at fault.
helicon9 said:
Hi,
I have a Bravia also and my Sony remote controls the Fire TV. You're correct that the Bravia Sync (CEC) is doing the job.
On my Sony remote the blue "Home" button works as the Context (hamburger) button, at least in XBMC it does.
I can't find a button that replicates the Fire TV "Home" button though, and I don't believe there's an way to configure this.
Does yours work ok all of the time? For me, after a while the FireTV seems to break all my CEC communication, so my TV stops controlling my audio system and doesn't see any connected devices, only pulling the power from the FireTV will fix this, but then after a while (sometimes hours, sometimes a couple of days) it breaks again.
It's using the HDMI cable/slot that my WDTV Live SMP was using and that never had a problem so I don't think it's the HDMI cable at fault.
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Yeah i figured out that i needed to change some settings to allow the remote to replicate the "hamburger" button.
I find it a bit laggy (understandable) compared to the amazon remote, and the lack of a Home button makes me think I'll eventually just use two remotes, sacrificing a bit of convenience that way. I haven't had the issue you've had yet though; i've only had it a few days though. My setup is pretty simple though, just my tv hooked up to the AFTV.
I've seen posts about FLIRC and some other IR recivers (like from a Ortek Win MCE remote)...
Has anyone tried the old Nyko BluWave IR Remote For PS3 with a Fire TV? Does it work? Or at least its IR reciver with a harmony remote?
Other than connecting it and pressing buttons is there any way to test?
KidJoe said:
I've seen posts about FLIRC and some other IR recivers (like from a Ortek Win MCE remote)...
Has anyone tried the old Nyko BluWave IR Remote For PS3 with a Fire TV? Does it work? Or at least its IR reciver with a harmony remote?
Other than connecting it and pressing buttons is there any way to test?
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I just set up my Amazon Fire TV this past weekend. Unfortunately, the Nyko BluWave IR remote for PS3 does not work. I plugged it into the USB port on my Fire TV and went into settings - the dongle does not even show up as a connected device. I also mashed some of the buttons on the remote itself to see if anything would happen. Unfortunately, nothing happened when I tried any of the buttons for the Nyko.
I actually got a chance to try it with mine (found it in a box in the basement that wasn't unpacked since we moved)
Pressing the directional parts of the ring, and center worked for me, but nothing else.
KidJoe said:
I actually got a chance to try it with mine (found it in a box in the basement that wasn't unpacked since we moved)
Pressing the directional parts of the ring, and center worked for me, but nothing else.
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read this a few weeks ago and just found the dongle for mine in drawer. the only buttons that worked for me were the directional buttons . the center button did not work. maybe my button is broken. or perhaps I'm on a different firmware version. if it mimics the buttons of a playstation controller perhaps they can be remapped? not sure how to go about doing that.
I also found a generic usb to infarad adapter.
I plugged it into the firetv and when I use certain remotes the receiving light on the device lights up.
When I press the home button while the firetv is asleep it will fire off a tv-on hdmi CEC command.
Anyway to send volup/voldown/tv off commands ?
I was gonna make the same post a few days ago, but then I realized my TV remote does everything the other way through CEC. Arrows, OK, Play, Pause, Next, Skip, Exit all work through CEC on the Fire Stick in all apps. Just no voice.
Still interested in this too tho, just in case.
TimmyP said:
I was gonna make the same post a few days ago, but then I realized my TV remote does everything the other way through CEC. Arrows, OK, Play, Pause, Next, Skip, Exit all work through CEC on the Fire Stick in all apps. Just no voice.
Still interested in this too tho, just in case.
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My fire remote is way more responsive. This way would be preferable for me
I understand. I was just trying to give you the best response I could. If I could use the FireTV remote like this, I would do it too. (makes an ok controller for SNES RPGS)
There is the sideclick which I think amazon makes too. Attaches to you remote and gives you ir tv control