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Over the last couple of weeks it seems like my battery has been fairing worse.
My phone was fully charged an hour ago, and I've been browsing/twittering a bit. Battery is now at 69%.
To add to this, I've had my phone on charge overnight a few times and reported full/100% when unplugged. A few mins later the charge drops to ~90%.
I'm beginning to wonder if this is a faulty battery, or a software issue?
There's not much runing in the background, just Facebook, a weather program updating every 2 hrs.
There's nothing out of the ordinary showing up on battery history either.
Thoughts?
I guess you didn't have this problem before the recent update?
I've read alot of people having problems with the battery after the latest OTA update. After the phone is fully charge the battery immediately drops faster than usual. Also, sometimes by HTC battery widget reports 96-100% even if I have charged it over night.
I don't think the draining is faster now than before, except for the foirst 5-10%.
I haven't installed the latest ota update, infact I haven't installed any updates for a while. I might change to a different Rom to see if it makes any difference.
Search threads you'll find an answer to the 90-100% issue. basically it will charge to 100%, then stop charging until it falls to 90% and then charge back up to 100% (rather than trickle charging once it gets to 100% so it will stay there). So when you unplug is after a full charge there is the gamble that you've unplugged it somewhere between 90% and 100% - but you have to wait a few minutes to find out... its so exciting - every morning I can't wait to get to the train station to check if I've guessed correctly...
Just flash a UVOC kernel on your phone
streetdaddy said:
Search threads you'll find an answer to the 90-100% issue. basically it will charge to 100%, then stop charging until it falls to 90% and then charge back up to 100% (rather than trickle charging once it gets to 100% so it will stay there). So when you unplug is after a full charge there is the gamble that you've unplugged it somewhere between 90% and 100% - but you have to wait a few minutes to find out... its so exciting - every morning I can't wait to get to the train station to check if I've guessed correctly...
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hahah you made me laugh
i think it might be worth to drain the battery till 0% then fully recharge to recalibrate the cycle
check in spare parts to see if your phone is sleeping properly. a couple of us are having that problem, o solved it by switching of wireless location. not sure thats a longterm solution though as i am always using geolocation on my phone
I am turning phone of at night but don'ty like doing this, but I always carry my usb lead at work so I can charge up if required in emergency.
I have the same problem.
I recharged my Desire full 6 hours ago, and now I am at 38% remaining battery with moderate usage. I have the latest generic rom.
Before I got it I was reading about bad battery life, but I didn't expect it to be THIS bad. What, 8 hours, 10, 12?
Sad.
ljesh said:
I have the same problem.
I recharged my Desire full 6 hours ago, and now I am at 38% remaining battery with moderate usage. I have the latest generic rom.
Before I got it I was reading about bad battery life, but I didn't expect it to be THIS bad. What, 8 hours, 10, 12?
Sad.
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it doesnt need to be that bad at all, when you get it setup right it will wasily last an entire day, mine suddenly changed and the life got worse but i have found a kind of solution, you need to play around with your settings.
a great saving is to switch mobile data when you are near a computer, you can still receive text messages and make calls and you will use a tiny amount of battery
Email is crucial an basic to me, just like phone calls and more then text messages (I don't need them). Just I have to be able to receive emails at any time. Still, I didn't expect imap over GSM Only (my current setting, I don't need 3G, just basic email sync) to use so much battery. This is my first cell phone to be so bad at battery :/
It's 5 days old, and people say it will get better in days... but lets see. I hope so.
By the way, "setting it up in proper way" I hope it doesn't mean turning off this and that. Because in the end I will receive a basic, phone calls, cell phone. It's not smart anymore
Edit: Since I wrote the previous post, till now, the battery dropped 5%, and now it's at 33%.
totally understand about having email on.
5% in a couple of minutes is totally wrong. gps/wifi on?, what is set to update and how frequently, weather, twitter, stocks, mail sync.
also download spare parts and see what is under partial wake usage and whether or not your desire is going to sleep when the screen is off. its the top option in the app. you want other and since boot and running and screen % and then check partial wake usage, they should be close to the same and see if anything has a large blue bar.
Wifi is off most of the time, if I turn it on it will be only to check something fast (5 minutes max at a period).
Weather updates every 1 hour
Facebook once a day
No twitter, stocks (they are checked in settings -> sync and can confirm that are disabled)
Email keeps the connection only, imap-idle
GPS is disabled, although the weather uses it at the refreshing time, to re-locate me.
Thats all I can think of.
I really use it a little (at least not as much as I would love) and I still lose so much battery.
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Wifi is off most of the time, if I turn it on it will be only to check something fast (5 minutes max at a period).
Weather updates every 1 hour
Facebook once a day
No twitter, stocks (they are checked in settings -> sync and can confirm that are disabled)
Email keeps the connection only, imap-idle
GPS is disabled, although the weather uses it at the refreshing time, to re-locate me.
Thats all I can think of.
I really use it a little (at least not as much as I would love) and I still lose so much battery.
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how often is the mail sync? every 5 mins, 15?
i'd definitely download spare parts from the market it's free, the interface is a bit weird but it gives you useful stats.
it sounds like you know your stuff so i'm going to assume that you dont have bluetooth on you screen on full brightness.
what does it say in settings>about phone>battery>battery use?
The email is imap-idle. It keeps the connection all the time, and waits for email. When the server receives the email, it pushes it to the phone. But connection is kept alive all the time. Idling most of the time, but keeping it alive.
I will check the spare parts program later or tomorrow, I am tired today, long day
Bluetooth is off always, I dont need it. Really, all I need on a phone is email 24/7 (I am linux system administrator, taking care of alot of servers, I need my emails) and like 5 phone calls daily, each not longer then 1 minute (we don't talk much )) )
battery use says:
Android System 96%
CoPilot 2% (freshly installed it and tested a bit, and then terminated it)
Cell standby 2%
Uptime is 21 hours
Awake time is 10 hours
isn't that much? Like half of the time, the phone is awake :/
Edit: brightness is set at automatic
ljesh said:
The email is imap-idle. I
battery use says:
Android System 96%
CoPilot 2% (freshly installed it and tested a bit, and then terminated it)
Cell standby 2%
Uptime is 21 hours
Awake time is 10 hours
isn't that much? Like half of the time, the phone is awake :/
Edit: brightness is set at automatic
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ok, i think we;ve found the problemo, android system at 96% is way off mine is currently at 26 and that is a bit high in my opinion. also my uptime is 7 hours and awake is 1 so thats seven to one as opposed to 2 to 1 in your case.
something is using your system resources and stopping your phone sleeping
I'm glad we got somewhere and I have to thank you for your patience in helping me with my problem.
Tonight I will reboot before I go to sleep, and will disable the email syncing. Just to see if the e-mail makes android be used 96% of the time, and tomorrow I will see the uptime and awake time.
Good idea?
ljesh said:
I'm glad we got somewhere and I have to thank you for your patience in helping me with my problem.
Tonight I will reboot before I go to sleep, and will disable the email syncing. Just to see if the e-mail maked android be used 96% of the time, and tomorrow I will see the uptime and awake time.
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its my pleasure dude, what goes around comes around
i think that is a logical place to start, spare parts will give you a better idea of what is using your resources hopefully by app rather than just android system.
instead of downloading spare parts you can also type this code into the dialer
*#*#4636#*#*
and it will get you the same info
just subscribed to this thread because I'm having similer problems.
"android system" is always 49%-60%
Current uptime - 3hours 4mins
Current awake times - 2hours 37mins.
I have a feeling foursquare might be the culprit since it's ALWAYS in my running apps, even when I've not used it since boot, and shut it with task killer... an hour or so later and it's back.
Something isnt right tho. I think from a full charge I should get 24hours from my phone with moderate use.
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just subscribed to this thread because I'm having similer problems.
"android system" is always 49%-60%
Current uptime - 3hours 4mins
Current awake times - 2hours 37mins.
I have a feeling foursquare might be the culprit since it's ALWAYS in my running apps, even when I've not used it since boot, and shut it with task killer... an hour or so later and it's back.
Something isnt right tho. I think from a full charge I should get 24hours from my phone with moderate use.
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yeah that is absolutely not normal, use spare parts and thatll tell you if it is foursquare
So my battery life so far has been hugely inconsistent. The first day it was draining so fast (60% in an hour) that I contemplated turning around and taking it right back to the Verizon store.
I decided to give it a better chance than that and gave it a full conditioning cycle and all seemed well - I got 16 hours with moderate usage including an hour and a half where my screen was constantly on! I was very pleased. Extremely pleased.
So I charge my phone back up to 100% before I go to sleep then take it off the charger once it does. I drift off into dreamland, dead to the world, and five hours later I decided to check my phone for calls, texts and email.
Before I could even pull my notification bar down I saw something horrific - an extremely low battery capacity, nearly red. Checked battery usage and it said it went from 100% to 13% in about 5.5 hours.
Android OS - 64%
Phone Idle - 10%
This is the big indicator. Under Android OS, my phone (not the display) was kept awake for an hour and a half overnight. I'm really not sure what's going on here and what's causing this to happen. I haven't downloaded much - 1 game, Skype, Google Reader, Facebook, Tweetcaster, Evernote and Foursquare - and none of them showed any signs of being the culprit.
As you can tell, this is very worrisome. If I can't get more than 5.5 hours on a full charge what use is this phone to me? Does anyone know what could be going on or has anyone else run into this issue?
You're not the only one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1387243
godsfshrmn said:
You're not the only one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1387243
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Thank you! I will direct my attention over there. Mods please close this thread.
Well I Recently Bought A Laza ZCell Extended Battery For My Phone And I Ran Through The Calibration But I Noticed That The Battery Life Was Really Bad. I Wiped Phone And Flashed Embryo 6-11 And Charged It To 100. Turned It Off And 8 Hours Later Turned It Back On And It Was At 20%. I Then Decided To Test The Battery Alone So I Charged To 100 And Then Took It Out Of Phone And Waited For 7 Hours And Put It Back In And It Was At 98% So It Cant Be The Battery Going Bad. What Could Be Wrong With The Phone?
Please, get gsam from the play store and post some screen shots.
The main screen, app screen, and click drop down in app screen...and do time held awake.
For starters. Otherwise anyone trying to help is just taking wild guesses.
Also, was it on WiFi or data? Weak signal? That's a battery killer big time on data.
Good luck!
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Oh...sorry. Dying with power off?
I'm going to say defective battery....or a phone hardware issue.
Off is off. The phone isn't draining battery when its off...at all. Tho battery will drop in slight steps....cause than just how it works.
But it cannot be software related anyway.
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It can be the battery. It could be shorted out. And just by being in the phone (contacts in use) it could be draining itself. Or the phone has an issue similar.
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Well I Recently Bought A Laza ZCell Extended Battery For My Phone And I Ran Through The Calibration But I Noticed That The Battery Life Was Really Bad. I Wiped Phone And Flashed Embryo 6-11 And Charged It To 100. Turned It Off And 8 Hours Later Turned It Back On And It Was At 20%. I Then Decided To Test The Battery Alone So I Charged To 100 And Then Took It Out Of Phone And Waited For 7 Hours And Put It Back In And It Was At 98% So It Cant Be The Battery Going Bad. What Could Be Wrong With The Phone?
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When you say Turned it off do you mean Turned the screen off ..? Or did you power it off .. If you powered it off and the battery drained , then its a bad battery ... Either way I have had problems with extended batteries ... If the battery is the same size as the stock battery and its supposed to be an extended battery then most likely it is just labeled as extended ... The weight of the battery will tell the truth...I have bought batteries that were bigger in size and required a over size cover on the back of the phone and it performed worse than the stock battery.. If the price is too good to be true it probably is .. I AM NOT SAYING THIS TRUE FOR ALL BATTERIES..But it sounds like this is the case with yours ... Hopefully something else caused this and it was a one time thing... If the phone was just sleeping and not powered off then it was draining at 10 percent an hour which is really high.. Mine drains at about 1.5 percent an hour to 2% an hour with wifi on and data on ...If it was powered off and drained like that maybe wipe your battery stats ..You could have been getting a bad reading of the battery which especially if you just flashed a new ROM...Good luck let me know if you fix it and how the battery performs over time I might buy one
kj2112 said:
Please, get gsam from the play store and post some screen shots.
The main screen, app screen, and click drop down in app screen...and do time held awake.
For starters. Otherwise anyone trying to help is just taking wild guesses.
Also, was it on WiFi or data? Weak signal? That's a battery killer big time on data.
Good luck!
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Oh...sorry. Dying with power off?
I'm going to say defective battery....or a phone hardware issue.
Off is off. The phone isn't draining battery when its off...at all. Tho battery will drop in slight steps....cause than just how it works.
But it cannot be software related anyway.
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It can be the battery. It could be shorted out. And just by being in the phone (contacts in use) it could be draining itself. Or the phone has an issue similar.
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Well i charged it and took the battery out to test if the battery itslef is just draining when its out of the phone but it didnt drain when the battery was out of the phone but when i put it in again and left the phone off it started draining by itself. ill get the gsam battery monitor right now and post some screenshots
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Well i charged it and took the battery out to test if the battery itslef is just draining when its out of the phone but it didnt drain when the battery was out of the phone but when i put it in again and left the phone off it started draining by itself. ill get the gsam battery monitor right now and post some screenshots
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If your phone is powered off, screen shots done have anything because obviously they aren't running.
Or are you talking standby when you say "off"? Like screen off. Not completely powered off.
kj2112 said:
If your phone is powered off, screen shots done have anything because obviously they aren't running.
Or are you talking standby when you say "off"? Like screen off. Not completely powered off.
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i mean completely powered off. the battery has gotten a bit better after some charge cycles. but its still dying pretty quickly regardless if its on or completely off. this is all while on airplane mode and having only wifi on
Also is there a way to check what the mAh of the battery is within the phone like an app ? .
If the phone is off, no app or widget will help, or tell you anything....cause the phone is off....so the app is off.
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If the phone is off, no app or widget will help, or tell you anything....cause the phone is off....so the app is off.
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i know i just want to check if the extended battery is the intended mAh
So this has happened twice recently. I'm not sure if it's the battery or an app that caused this.
Basically I left my tablet at around 40% overnight idling and throughout the day at home while I was at work. I come back around 8 pm and pick it up..battery is dead. Like completely dead, the tablet won't turn on until I charge it a bit. It's kind of ridiculous in an approximately 14-16 hour period my tablet died going from 40% to 0 on idle?
How can I find out what's causing this? I'm not really sure what changed because I haven't really installed anymore apps in the past few weeks.
@C2Q Go into Settings > Battery > and then take a screen print and post it here of what % of battery each app has used.
Should give you an idea from there. If I were guess I'd say it will be Android.System thats draining it...well thats what happened to me.
Thanks. Yeah I have tried that, I also have a bunch of other battery monitoring apps. All it says is Android OS but no specifics. I'm wondering if there's a way to tell after rebooting, what caused that much battery drain (app wise)?
@C2Q Take a screenprint and post it here..
Hmm..I'll try to get one screenshot when this happens again. Yesterday I charged to 100% overnight, unplugged in the morning before work and then came back after work about 10-11h later to see it at 99%. That was pretty normal. Wakelock detector only showed Gmail as the biggest battery usage in those 11 hours. Will keep an eye out to see if this mysteriously drains again.
What rom are you using ? It could be a faulty kernel if android os is running like crazy.
When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the Sony Xperia XZ Premium's battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
damn no reviews for this lol im just here letting you guys know that the standby battery is amazing went to sleep yesterday at 12am with 69% of battery woke up today at 7:30am with 67% damn my old lg v20 couldnt do that lol
It's quite bad here with standby drain as well. "Phone Idle" is always on top of the battery usage apps and it's probably a few percent an hour, depending on charge of course. >90% it's 1-2% an hour, but that increases when the charge level drops.
Stock .145 rom with storm//'s hack and have greenify running
Standby drain 0,2-0,4 %/h. locked BL, .145, Greenify.
phone idle coming top 3 with 6% took from 100% in about 4 hours! what could be causing that??
phone idle 4:11 hours
screen time 1:50 hours
36minutes of sniper 3d
7minutes playtube player while screen on (plus 20 minutes screen off)
I am on 57% just after 4 hours of use! while only 1:50 hours of them screen on!
phone idle for 4:11 hours took 6% which is a ratio of (1.5% per hour)
not good at all, what could be the problem??
I tried draining to 0 then charge to 100 on a straight charge while phone is off, phone is factory resetted, locked, not rooted, stock rom .119 oreo
what else can I do here?
madshark2009 said:
phone idle coming top 3 with 6% took from 100% in about 4 hours! what could be causing that??
phone idle 4:11 hours
screen time 1:50 hours
36minutes of sniper 3d
7minutes playtube player while screen on (plus 20 minutes screen off)
I am on 57% just after 4 hours of use! while only 1:50 hours of them screen on!
phone idle for 4:11 hours took 6% which is a ratio of (1.5% per hour)
not good at all, what could be the problem??
I tried draining to 0 then charge to 100 on a straight charge while phone is off, phone is factory resetted, locked, not rooted, stock rom .119 oreo
what else can I do here?
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I don't know but I have the same issue for months... Usually 2,4-2,8% per hour (when screen off!!) and battery stats not showing anything relevant.
I have everything stock, and I am using Greenify since a ~week, now I have 1,5%-1,8% on standby (which is still a lot, but improved compared to the previous situation).
Is really bad because if I detach my phone at 7 in the morning, at 14 I am already at ~80% without doing nothing! That's also means that using it, specially a lot with maps or things like that, I am not able to go farest than 17-21 :crying:
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I don't know but I have the same issue for months... Usually 2,4-2,8% per hour (when screen off!!) and battery stats not showing anything relevant.
I have everything stock, and I am using Greenify since a ~week, now I have 1,5%-1,8% on standby (which is still a lot, but improved compared to the previous situation).
Is really bad because if I detach my phone at 7 in the morning, at 14 I am already at ~80% without doing nothing! That's also means that using it, specially a lot with maps or things like that, I am not able to go farest than 17-21 :crying:
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i noticed that factory reset didnt work for me, neither does software repair
so what I did was, flashed .179 firmware, fresh flashing, wiped every thing!
battery life was almost still the same, it got a lil better.
BUT, I am now using stamina mode any time I dont use the phone much, in my pocket, or even if im slightly using it (whatsapp, instagram etc...), I only turn it off when im gaming or watching some thing which is getting me to lose 1% every 4-6 minutes when using the device, and not losing anything when the device is off (as I activate the stamina mode) this should get me around 6:30-8:00 hours of screen time!
also I noticed I had viberation on navigation buttons, I also had face detection unlock and "ok google" unlock, and google feed and a lot of widgets and a live wallpaper, and avg running in the background.
so I disabled all of these useless features as I really dont use any of them (maybe rarely) and i can feel a slight improvement. (still slight improvement over slight improvement makes a noticeably improvement)
so now I unplugged my device at 17:00 at 90% more or less and now its 22:07 and i still got 56% so in about 5 hours I lost 34% while 2:14 hours, screen was on so its very impressive!
I can get to 6:45 hours of screen use which is very very good! im still testing though.
Nah i know its too late to write this but,.
For you all who have a problem draining battery even at sleep try Greenify Donation Package + Powernap xposed module
Even now my xzp still have sot around 6 hours with 15% battery left. With everything enabled like x-reality, auto brightness, mobile data.
Btw i'm using existenz v10 cusrom + DT2W Kernel