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What is the proper way to rom hop?

Greetings,
I want to be able to seamlessly switch from CM7 to MIUI to Sense, etc., keeping all of my settings, apps, etc for each setup. I assumed that I can do this by simply configuring each and doing Nandroid backups. But, when I try to restore my Myn's backup, I get an error.
Anyone know the proper procedure rom-hopping like this?
Thanks!
mike

1. Backup current apps and data in titanium backup
2. In recovery, backup current rom
3. Full wipe [factory/data, cache, dalvik]
4. Flash rom, reboot.
5. When booted into new rom, restore apps and data, NOT system settings.
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And if you want to switch back, go to recovery, backup current rom, then restore the backup you want; no need to wipe.
Also you'll get restore errors if you renamed the folder using invalid characters, or its corrupted.

Yes, you can just keep nandroid backups of each ROM you like after you get them set up and running how you want. Then you can restore whatever setup you feel like that day.
You can also back up your apps w/ titanium, that way if you install any new apps, when you restore another ROM, you can use ti to restore any missing apps that you've installed since the backup was made.

To the OP, your post is incomplete without the error message
Your steps seem like the proper way to go between roms. What you need to be aware of is, some apps store their data on the sdcard. Depending what is stored, you may get issues. Beautiful wigets comes to mind. It stores the skins on the sd card.
Are you getting error messages restoring from the backup image itself? What error. Are your image files intact?

Might be your version of recovery. I had a problem going from CM7 to anything else. I switched the recovery version in Rom Manager and fixed it

Sorry, I overlooked that. What error are you getting?
1. What % was your battery at? If it's below 30-40%, it won't restore or backup.
2. Have you renamed the backup? You can only use certain punctuation in the names or it won't work.

teh roxxorz said:
1. Backup current apps and data in titanium backup
2. In recovery, backup current rom
3. Full wipe [factory/data, cache, dalvik]
4. Flash rom, reboot.
5. When booted into new rom, restore apps and data, NOT system settings.
6.
And if you want to switch back, go to recovery, backup current rom, then restore the backup you want; no need to wipe.
Also you'll get restore errors if you renamed the folder using invalid characters, or its corrupted.
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Good advice. One thing I'm curious about though. When you do a rom backup, it saves your apps/data etc. anyway, right? When you "restore" a ROM everything is exactly like you had it. So why is it necessary to do a Titanium Backup of all your apps/data (other than prudent good practice obviously) when your ROM backup will have the same. Is there another reason I'm missing?
Second, when you say backup "apps + data" but NOT system settings, what exactly do you mean? When you do a batch backup w/ Titanium Backup you can choose to do Apps or Apps + all system data. How can you quickly and easily backup apps + app data without all system settings? Manually go in and select certain (green) system data?

I do it in case I download any new apps while on one ROM that may not be included in my nand backup.
I don't restore app data, but theoretically you could restore the newer app data as well.

Alpine- said:
Good advice. One thing I'm curious about though. When you do a rom backup, it saves your apps/data etc. anyway, right? When you "restore" a ROM everything is exactly like you had it. So why is it necessary to do a Titanium Backup of all your apps/data (other than prudent good practice obviously) when your ROM backup will have the same. Is there another reason I'm missing?
Second, when you say backup "apps + data" but NOT system settings, what exactly do you mean? When you do a batch backup w/ Titanium Backup you can choose to do Apps or Apps + all system data. How can you quickly and easily backup apps + app data without all system settings? Manually go in and select certain (green) system data?
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The reason for backing up your apps and data is because when you install a new rom, like going from CM7 > MIUI, you should always do a full wipe, which will erase your user apps; erases all phone content. When you boot into the new rom, the titanium backup data is on the sdcard, and can be restored from there; that's why. And doing a full wipe when flashing a new rom kills off a lot of problems, like random fcs, ect.
No, you do the batch operation for backup user apps + system data, just to be safe that you get the data for the apps. That makes it easiest. When you RESTORE, you go into batch, there's an option for restore only user apps and data, right above apps + system data.

Poor Performance on Sense 3.5 ROMs

Hey guys,
i used good old InsertCoin ROM most time, but i'd like to use new Sense 3.5 now.
I tried Runnymedia AIO and Runny ROM. Both perform ok at first, but then i restore my apps using Titanium Backup. Now the device performs extremely slow after i use the market (play store).
Increasing CPU Frequency doesn't help either. How can i find out, whats slowing my device down?
Using STOCK HBOOT with 1GB Ext4 Partition.
Radio: 32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27

Instead of Restoring apps, why not try re-downloading them from the Play Store. My Phone is super smooth. No problems yet.

It seems that you're right. App-restoring might be the problem. I removed most apps which i restored with TB and now its smooth again.
But of course i want to keep my App-Data (/data) from my InsertCoin installation.
I'll try installing BackupEverything on IC, backup my apps with this app and then restore to Runny ROM.

Any idea why that might be?
I also have a slow RunnyMod after restoring via Titanium to restore my apps, but most of them have no other way to backup...

Slow, after restoring with BackupEverything too. And BE doesn't even backup /data/data
Somebody knows a tool which actually works?

thylux said:
Any idea why that might be?
I also have a slow RunnyMod after restoring via Titanium to restore my apps, but most of them have no other way to backup...
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I backup my apps using AppMonster PRO. Have done since I got my Desire 2 years ago.
It allows for plain name backup of .apks and using its newer backup method, allows for batch reinstall of apps. Also can specifiy how many versions of an apk to keep / as2d notification and automatic backup of .apk when installed.
Doesn't do cache backup and user customizations that can be carried over from one install to another in way that Titanium Backup does, but works fab for me, I just reinstall wot I want!
In this way I dont get any mess up's when switching roms were I restore a TB backup and it puts the data in the wrong place.

I always backup and restore with ic_backup_apps.zip and ic_restore_apps.zip. I can't find the original links (there was a link in the Insertcoin thread) and I don't know if I'm allowed to post mirrors here. But a google search should help you get those files I think.
ic_backup_apps stores all the apks in a .tar file on you sd card and also wipes your system, be careful
ic_restore_apps unpacks this file and puts them back
To install another ROM I always do the following:
backup apps with titanium (only user apps+data, no system data)
backup sms, call log and "some" system settings with Mybackup root
power off, reboot in recovery
a nandroid backup is advised, you should do this regulary anyway imo
flash ic_backup_apps.zip as you would flash any other zip. But be careful, this also wipes everything
full wipe (data+system+boot+sd-ext+cache+dalvik) + battery stats, so everything except sd card
flash the rom.zip
flash ic_restore_apps.zip
power off, (remove sim, to prevent incoming sms while restoring), reboot
switch off automatic backup (it's not needed now)
restore with mybackup root
restore (some) user app data with titanium
I've wiped and flashed multiple sense 3.5 ROMs this way and never had problems with slowness or FCs.
Your SD card could also be a bottleneck.

Can you nandroid restore for apps & settings on new ROM or new version of same ROM?

Can you nandroid restore for apps & settings on new ROM or new version of same ROM?
Many people (myself included) are "flash-happy" and install new ROMs or ROM updates very frequently. While I love flashing new stuff, I hate the process of getting my phone set up all over again. Titanium Backup is currently my go-to app for backing up apps and restoring them after a flash. Nova Launcher has been super-helpful in keeping my widgets. However, many apps don't work until you open them after a restore (1Weather, Adfree, LightFlow, Lux, etc). So generally, the following is my tedious process for flashing:
1. Assign labels in TiBU to the apps I want to restore and run "backup all apps + data"
2. Wipe Data, Cache, Dalvik, Battery Stats
3. Flash ROM, GApps, Kernel, etc. Fix permissions
4. Install TiBU and then painstakingly restore apps (only non-system), then restore data for those apps.
5. Open each app and configure where necessary
6. Go through all the ROM settings and set them the way I like (nav bar icon size, clock posiiton, battery icon, etc etc etc).
Just the thought of going through this whole process makes me hold off on flashing too often, and I usually end up saving flashes for when I have a big chunk of time. Some people, I've noticed, flash new ROMs like they've got nothing better to do. It makes me wonder... do they have some trick for quickly restoring their phones after each flash? Is there some way to condense or streamline steps 4-6 in my process?
A Nandroid backup saves the System and Data partitions. What info does each partition contain? I realize that each ROM is different and it might be problematic to restore settings of one ROM to another, but what if you're simply upgrading to a newer version of the same ROM? I'm wondering if I can make a nandroid backup of CNA 3.6.6 and then restore only the Data partition after flashing CNA 3.8.0 so that the new ROM is in place but all the apps and settings are restored from the previous setup. If this does work, is it stable and smooth?
Or if I'm completely off about using Nandroid for this purpose, does anyone have any methods for getting back up to speed quickly after flashing new ROMs?

In titanium backup you can go to settings > create update.zip so next time you flash a new rom gapps etc you can install the update.zip as well and have TiBu off the back. If you have the pro key it will be more beneficial to you. You do have to log into you google account if you have the pro key before opening TiBu. I use Paranoid Android and I can backup my rom settings idk how CNA does it. That one you might have to manually do.
Between ROM updates you don't have to wipe data. Just Cache and dalvik.
I have recovered my data partition between wipes before but stopped because everytime I update or flash a new rom I usually go for a new look.
Here is my process between flashing new roms
1. Backup everything in TiBu (I already have the update.zip so I skip that. You only need to do it once or if the app gets updated)
2. Go into recovery wipe data, system, cache, dalvik
3. Install rom, gapps, kernel, TiBu
4. Restart
5. Load up sign into google account
6. Open TiBu and restore everything
Some apps naturally won't restore everything like Adfree for example will put the hosts file in your system for you, when you back that app up your only backing up the settings. When you back it up it only backs up the settings. Dropbox and Skydrive I have to manually sign back in. I never had lightflow so I don't know how that works. Its a little tedious but I usually give a rom a few hours before I actually go through all that.
Hope it helps

If you don't want to have to log in to your Google account before using the full version of Titanium Backup, just use App2Zip to make a flashable zip of TiBu and its Pro key. Then just flash it last, boot, and batch restore the rest of your apps and data.

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I am having fits trying to use Titanium Backup Pro (TBP) on my Samsung Galaxy S3 (i747). After installing a new ROM and preforming a TBP restore I always have two problems. First my wifi and 4G(LTE) fail to connect. Second, I can no longer install apps in Google Play store from my desktop PC. Before I do a TBP restore both these problem do not exist. What am I doing wrong?
First I will walk through my process of installing a new ROM.
Place ROMS & GAPPS in the root directory. I put them there because it is quick and easy to find.
Backup my current ROM using ROM Manager Premium v5.0.3.1.
Backup all my apps, folders, and settings with TBP...I think. I choose the Backup all user apps + system data option.
Here is where some of the confusion is for me. Which backup option should I chose in TBP?
I have tried both Backup all user apps and Backup all user apps + system data.
Or should I choose another option?
Does TBP backup all my folders I created on my homescreen and other screens?
Does TBP backup all my WiFi connections and passwords?
Does TBP backup information pertaining to Google Play?
Does TBP backup all my widgets on my homescreens?
Does TBP backup the wallpaper currently in use on the phone?
After all the backups I boot into Recovery mode using ClockworkMod 6.0.1.2.
Once inside CwM Recovery I select wipe data/factory reset, wipe partition cache, wipe dalvik cache, and wipe battery stats.
Next I install the ROM and GAPPS. After they both successfully install I reboot the phone.
Finally I go through the setup process to complete the new ROM install.
I have tried both letting Google Play restore all my apps and stopped Google Play from restoring my apps.
At this point my WiFi and 4G(LTE) are working fine. Plus I able able to install appsin Google Play from my desktop PC.
Now I preform a TBP restore. I have tried both Restore all apps with data and Restore missing apps + all system data.
Once the restore is done TBP recommends I reboot, which I do.
Sometimes the phone will get stuck in a boot loop. So I have to pull the battery and reboot. Sometime the phone will get stuck in boot loop and the only way to get out of it is to reinstall the ROM and GAPPS.
After the TBP reboot I notice my WiFi and 4G(LTE) are not working as well as installing apps from my desktop PC.
I hope you guys can help figure out what is going on.
Thanks,
-Sonny

Only thing I can say is never restore system apps. I always use TB and have never had an issue.

jasvncnt1 said:
Only thing I can say is never restore system apps. I always use TB and have never had an issue.
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+1 to this. Never restore any system apps.
The only system data I restore is clock and contacts storage.
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Restore Titanium Backup (multiple profiles) from Nexus 5

I have a Nexus 5 with all my previous 3 years of Data that I want to move to my new Mi Max Prime (Non System Apps only). I have the pro version of the Titanium Backup and I have app that I have multiple profiles of. I need details on the following:
1. How to backup the different profiles of the same app?
2. How to root the Mi Max Prime (Need root for restoration by Titanium Backup)?
My Mi Max is running MIUI 8.1.9.0

First BackUp needed apps using titanium back up then copy titanium backup folder and paste it on ur Mi max's storage and restore apps from titanium backup app.

TITANIUM BACKUP restores data, but not apps
hi. i have an issue with TB.
I enabled debugging, install via usb, unchecked mount space separation in superSu, set the backup location in TB. i get the install via usb popup but it hangs there. if i restore only data, it succeds, backup ok, but app restore wont. i have Mi Max. version 8.2.1.
please help.
i read somewhere that u need to unckeck install via usb in security app, but I cant find that setting.
DEvice is xiaomi mi MAX - miui 8.2.1.
Please help me, i can't get it to work for days now.

sarthakwarlock said:
First BackUp needed apps using titanium back up then copy titanium backup folder and paste it on ur Mi max's storage and restore apps from titanium backup app.
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The problem is not with restoration but restoration of multiple profiles.