is there any way we can use mass storage for internal memory? not is slow and at times I face serious problems in copying files t my computer. so I want to connect internal memory by ums. can I do it? I am new to the device by the way.
munirshah77 said:
is there any way we can use mass storage for internal memory? not is slow and at times I face serious problems in copying files t my computer. so I want to connect internal memory by ums. can I do it? I am new to the device by the way.
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You'd need a custom ROM that supports UMS. I don't know if there are any, so that's as far as I can help you.
UMS was pretty much abandoned in ICS though (though you could still force it on some phones; mostly Samsungs). After ICS, MTP became the only option. I hate MTP too... my 2010 car can only read UMS and not MTP. I used to be able to plug my phone into the car to listen to music, but now I can't. And going out and buying a new car isn't exactly an option!
Try this..it might be a hit and miss sometimes but works..note it will only ummount the external sd-card, so your car can play music stored only on the external sd-card
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rafoid.multimountsdcard.widget
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I was wondering if the HTC one X will (as the Galaxy Nexus) lack the support of USB Mass Storage for transferring files to and from the computer. If anybody knows any information about this please share it.
molecule_cc said:
I was wondering if the HTC one X will (as the Galaxy Nexus) lack the support of USB Mass Storage for transferring files to and from the computer. If anybody knows any information about this please share it.
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The Galaxy Nexus lacks support for USB Mass Storage? I find that hard to believe.
UrInsan3 said:
The Galaxy Nexus lacks support for USB Mass Storage? I find that hard to believe.
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It's true
http://www.theverge.com/android/2011/11/22/2579691/galaxy-nexus-usb-mass-storage-mtp
Although it says it lacks it on the Nexus it doesn't, I have always been able to transfer files to and from my Gnex. I think it is just another way of doing it when I plug my Gnex into the PC it appears in my computer and doesn't require me to press mount like it used to on gingerbread this isn't ideal but it works
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They dont use USB Mass Storage they use Media Transfer Protocol to deal with USB connection. This change was introduced in Honeycomb and has continued into Ice Cream Sandwich.
You can still transfer files to and from the devices its just a diffrent way of doing it.
Forum user Gogol posed these questions:
- Why Google is using MTP instead of USB file transfer on Honeycomb?”
He received the following response from a Google developer:
“MTP is a big improvement over USB mass storage — for devices with lots of internal memory, a manufacturer no longer needs to come up with some hard partition between the USB mass storage and internal storage. Instead, they are all in one partition, with MTP providing access to the directory of media files that would normally be available through USB mass storage. This means there is no longer a need for apps on SD card for such devices, because what used to be the ‘internal SD card’ is in the same partition as where applications are stored. The storage on your device can be used for either applications or media, depending on what you want to put on it. You aren’t stuck with how much space the manufacturer decided to leave for the two areas.
Oh also this means that the media storage doesn’t need to be unmounted from Android when it is being access through the PC.“
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Source: http://glasskeys.com/2011/02/28/why-google-uses-mtp-instead-of-usb-file-transfer-on-android-3/
A main reason for using MTP rather than for example the USB mass-storage device class (MSC) is that the latter operates at the granularity of a mass storage device block (usually in practice, a FAT block), rather than at the logical file level. In other words, the USB mass storage class is designed to give a host computer undifferentiated access to bulk mass storage, such as compact flash, rather than to a file system, which might be safely shared with the target device (except for specific files which the host might be modifying/accessing). In practice, therefore, when a USB host computer has mounted an MSC partition, it assumes absolute control of the storage, which then may not be safely modified by the device without risk of data corruption until the host computer has severed the connection. Furthermore, because the host computer has full control over the connected storage device, there is a risk that the host computer may corrupt the file system, reformat it to a file system not supported by the USB device, or otherwise modify it in such a way that the USB device cannot completely understand it.
MTP and PTP specifically overcome this issue by making the unit of managed storage a local file rather than an entire (possibly very large) unit of mass storage at the block level. In this way, MTP works like a transactional file system - either the entire file is written/read or nothing. The storage media is not affected by failed transfers.
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Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Transfer_Protocol
having one unified partition would cause problems when we want to flash custom roms..
I owned a Sensation XL that had internal storage as the One X
When you connect, it just shows up like an SDcard, and transfering files is no problem at all.
It's a better solution then I have on my Samsung Gtab.
Only thing to remember is, with my 16Gig Sensation XL internal storage, I only had 8Gig of free space to use, the rest is taken for/by the system.
So if you NEED space buy the 32Gig, and I hear you'll have 29Gig of free space.(This has not been confimed)
but your Sensation XL was running gingerbread right? and the change to MTP came with Honeycomb and was continued with ICS. So on the HTC One X it will be the same as your Samsung Gtab.
With the One X internal memory 26GB is user-available.
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but your Sensation XL was running gingerbread right? and the change to MTP came with Honeycomb and was continued with ICS. So on the HTC One X it will be the same as your Samsung Gtab.
With the One X internal memory 26GB is user-available.
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It was on GB... Did not know of the Change to MTP.. tought it was a Samsung thing.
Tnx for the info
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having one unified partition would cause problems when we want to flash custom roms..
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I'm sure it's like the prime with an sd card partition that won't be wiped on factory wipe.
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HTC-Gunge said:
but your Sensation XL was running gingerbread right? and the change to MTP came with Honeycomb and was continued with ICS. So on the HTC One X it will be the same as your Samsung Gtab.
With the One X internal memory 26GB is user-available.
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These manufacturers really shouldn't be able to get away with marketing a product as 32gb storage when only 26 is actually available to the user. And if the sensation was only 8 out of an advertised 16 then that's even more of a bump. It's not so much an issue if there is an SD card but when it cannot be expanded it is important consumers are aware of exactly how much they can actually use.
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These manufacturers really shouldn't be able to get away with marketing a product as 32gb storage when only 26 is actually available to the user. And if the sensation was only 8 out of an advertised 16 then that's even more of a bump. It's not so much an issue if there is an SD card but when it cannot be expanded it is important consumers are aware of exactly how much they can actually use.
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quite agree with this..
i sure hope they dun come out and release a 64gb version a few months from now.. i would be REALLY PISSED off..
The MTP or PTP modes are safer for the phone, because you can cold disconnect your phone without any risk, the phone is still controlling bulk read/write to the sdcard. On the other side the operating system can prevent or disable access to any files it wants, like hidden/system files and so on. Thus, this is not intended for making backups in the Nandroid style.
Also, there is less control over the data than in USB Mass Storage Mode. With the Mass Storage Device Class (MSC) you directly access the partition in hardware mode. You can see all the files within the sdcard, and you can use filesystem tools like partition editors (Easeus Partition Master) or recover deleted or corrupted files at block level (Recuva) which is not possible with MTP or PTP, where you only can use phone-side software that usually is much more limited.
More information here:
[GUIDE] MTP and PTP (Media Transfer Protocol) vs UMC (Mass Storage Class)
Hey guys, so here's the situation, I need to mount my galaxy nexus as a hdd. I don't know how to do it in Jelly Bean, but I remember when I had my Nexus One, there's an option to mount the phone as an hdd.
The reason I'm trying to do this is because I have a movie stored in one of the folders on my phone, and I need it for a presentation at work, the only thing I can connect my phone to is a Roku 2 XS, which supports playing videos from a portable HDD.
Any help please
I have the latest version of Jelly Bean, completly stock and not rooted
you cant do it.
there's NO USB mass storage available on the nexus.
You can't mount the GNex as USB Mass Storage. You can only do MTP for file transfer.
wow that sucks big time
My old Nexus One was able to mount as usb mass storage, you'd think that such an advanced android phone as the Galaxy Nexus can mount that way...shame on whoever is responsible for removing that feature
AcuraKidd said:
wow that sucks big time
My old Nexus One was able to mount as usb mass storage, you'd think that such an advanced android phone as the Galaxy Nexus can mount that way...shame on whoever is responsible for removing that feature
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its not a feature. there's no SD card. if there was an actual SD card, you could mount it has USB storage.
your nexus one has a SD card.
the omission of a SD card in preference to a unified storage has been known about for a long time.
AcuraKidd said:
wow that sucks big time
My old Nexus One was able to mount as usb mass storage, you'd think that such an advanced android phone as the Galaxy Nexus can mount that way...shame on whoever is responsible for removing that feature
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Why? Whenever you mount the storage it's unavailable to the phone. This makes much more sense. I hated how the phone couldn't access any files on my DInc when I had it mounted and transferring files from the PC (ringtones, pics, apps, etc).
Hi,
MTP is starting to be a real pain for me. For all its benefits, its not as good as Mass Storage.
If I'd rather use my laptop to Edit MP3 Tags (as its much faster than using a touch screen), it seems I have to transfer all my music (copy) from my GNEX over to my computer, edit the tags, then copy them back over.
That to me is a real pain.
I could view the MP3's via my PC with the GNex connected, but if I try and do anything to them, I notice that its read only.
Anyway around that other than what I'm already doing? I really don't like offloading the mp3's just to edit and put them back again.
You might try mounting the internal phone storage via WebDAV. I use an app called "WebDAV server" to serve out my phone's storage via WebDAV and then use a program called "NetDrive" to mount the storage on my PC. The storage looks and acts like a Windows drive on the PC, though it is a bit slower than a mass storage mount would be. It gets around the limitations of the default media mounting.
can any one help me and suggest a method to enable the mass storage mode in my note 2 , when connected to my laptop ?
Firstly why? MTP is better when you get it working as you don' t need to unmount anything from the phone first!
Secondly, it is likely to be possible yes probably very similar to how it was hacked to work on the s3, however it only worked for external sd and caused lots of corruptions to sd cards... so it is far from perfect.
My advice would be to get used to MTP.
i was need it to let my stereo car read mp3 files i solved by installing an s3 hack that can make the extsd a mass storage unit take a look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1711009 it worked for me i'm with omega v4 rom
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Firstly why? MTP is better when you get it working as you don' t need to unmount anything from the phone first!
Secondly, it is likely to be possible yes probably very similar to how it was hacked to work on the s3, however it only worked for external sd and caused lots of corruptions to sd cards... so it is far from perfect.
My advice would be to get used to MTP.
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I understand what you mean but. ..it becomes virtually impossible and frustrating to transfer stuff to internal memory or even external memory because it is slow. ..Very slow
External memory I can manage by taking out my card and using an adapter to plug it into my laptop card slot..
Is there a way to mount internal memory as usb mass storage? I don't mind if I have to turn my phone off or something
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Did you try Airdroid?
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try Kies over wifi...
it transfer data using local connection and transfers GBs of files in some minutes definitely MUCH faster than MTP and prefer it to AirDroid, but it hasnt been working lately (last time i checked was a week or two back)
This is a problem for those like me using Ubuntu. I never managed to make MTP work on it.
Wi-Fi transfer of files can be done with X-Link, but the lack of mass storage is a nuisance.
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Yes, MTP is a big problem on Ubuntu. I have tried 3 implementations of MTP protocol on 12.04 and 12.10, no dice.
i'm searching for an answer. worst thing with mtp is the fact that it hides directories from you! so you can't backup everything properly. annoying
bump! MTP is too/painfully slow. Reminds me of 1995. We need an alternative. Whoever put up this technology without due consideration and testing, before deploying it on these popular devices needs to be consider a different job.
looks like I wont be getting this phone until mass storage mode is added
harishdhandev said:
can any one help me and suggest a method to enable the mass storage mode in my note 2 , when connected to my laptop ?
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Unfortunately, there is no way to enable UMS mode without rooting the phone.
I had to find a solution for my car stereo be able to read mp3 files.
I just rooted the phone and install SGS3 easy UMS ( PlayStore ). Yes its working just perfect on NoteII.
I'm using Ubuntu at work and it works like a charm as well.
Don't forget to unmount the drive in Ubuntu before unplug, and stop the service on Windows.
Also, on the UMS app, switch back to MTP before unplug, to avoid files errors ( no problem if u are just reading, ie: car stereo)
fmpmuld said:
Unfortunately, there is no way to enable UMS mode without rooting the phone.
I had to find a solution for my car stereo be able to read mp3 files.
I just rooted the phone and install SGS3 easy UMS ( PlayStore ). Yes its working just perfect on NoteII.
I'm using Ubuntu at work and it works like a charm as well.
Don't forget to unmount the drive in Ubuntu before unplug, and stop the service on Windows.
Also, on the UMS app, switch back to MTP before unplug, to avoid files errors ( no problem if u are just reading, ie: car stereo)
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Hello,
one question - how to make two-way sync folders between my laptop and SGN2?
I always did it with GoodSync, but now it is impossible...
thx
Haha isn't this a cool icon? ---->
Gah.... I was hoping there was a way to USB mass storage on this phone. I guess I should have done more research on the phone before I bought it. I'm still in my 2 week return it period, but that's not THAT much of a deal breaker. Just really stupid... Why can't I have it all?? I mean we finally got USB host (OTG or whatever; same same) from a stock phone, only to lose USB Mass Storage! Oh the frustrations!
Dramatics aside, will a custom ROM allow something different? I'm not clear on what layer this MTP mode is operating at. I did think it was funny that it popped up as a camera type device in Windows. Right now I'm only using internal flash. Usually I want to browse pics on the phone from the PC, and in this case, if I use IrfanView to open one on the device, it copies it local and then opens it, so I can't scroll through them. Silly, and mildly frustrating. :-/
I'm going to look into some networking options to see if those work (Kies, AirDroid, maybe FTP). Actually, Dropbox might solve this particular problem for me now that I think of it.
I saw the thread for mounting external SD as USB mass storage. I take it there's no way to co-mount the internal storage as a USB mass storage device?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1711009
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Gah.... I was hoping there was a way to USB mass storage on this phone. I guess I should have done more research on the phone before I bought it. I'm still in my 2 week return it period, but that's not THAT much of a deal breaker. Just really stupid... Why can't I have it all?? I mean we finally got USB host (OTG or whatever; same same) from a stock phone, only to lose USB Mass Storage! Oh the frustrations!
Dramatics aside, will a custom ROM allow something different? I'm not clear on what layer this MTP mode is operating at. I did think it was funny that it popped up as a camera type device in Windows. Right now I'm only using internal flash. Usually I want to browse pics on the phone from the PC, and in this case, if I use IrfanView to open one on the device, it copies it local and then opens it, so I can't scroll through them. Silly, and mildly frustrating. :-/
I'm going to look into some networking options to see if those work (Kies, AirDroid, maybe FTP). Actually, Dropbox might solve this particular problem for me now that I think of it.
I saw the thread for mounting external SD as USB mass storage. I take it there's no way to co-mount the internal storage as a USB mass storage device?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1711009
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Well, Samsung turned off the USB Mass Storage for obvious reasons. But anyway, I can access both memories from my computers, using MS Windows.
On windows, there's no problem at all as you can manage all the files directly from explorer.
On Other systems, the problem is different. For some reasons, like with all other systems (ie car stereo or media player...), the galaxy will not be recognized because MTP needs drivers. Then, you have to use UMS and the only way to install and use it is to root the phone. But keep in mind UMS will only permit access to external memory card.
Well, if I have to transfer files from internal memory through UMS, I copy the files I need to external memory before using it..... That's not a big problem , is it ? And because your phone is rooted, you can even find a script to copy some folders automatically.
Hope I'm clear enough and it helps.
I'm really missing UMS, my car stereo usb input just cant scan all the music on my 64g card using MTP from the phone.
Just sits for ages. It worked flawlessly on my old phone, but it was using UMS.
But UMS isn't support anymore by google, thus the option was removed.
* Guess I can use real usb sticks and not use my sg4 as a usb drive.
But still trying to backup the memory card in the phone with windows, crashes explorer, MTP doesn't like the amount of files.
* Guess I can take the memory card out and put it in an adapter and put it in the slot in the PC...
I hate MTP, and I hate that the general consensus thinks its better than UMS.
I think cyanogenmod has UMS, maybe thats the answer...
sigh, one of those, its broken by design, and you suck for trying to use it, go away, we know better moments. I need a drink...