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Use cases with the Moto 360

Let's discuss how we use this watch so that we can share ideas with each other to further increase our experiences with it.
1) obviously notifications. I really like the fact that I don't have to pull out my phone to check every notification. I look at them on my watch and I can dismiss the ones that aren't important or choose to take out my phone if it is a notification that needs immediate attention.
2) I play Ingress, so getting portal attack notifications or comm message notifications are really handy. I can then decide if I want to pull out my phone to recharge the portals or simply dismiss the notifications.
3) speech to text is awesome. When people text me, I can reply by voice which it sends through my hangouts. One thing I noticed is that when I say 'OK Google', I don't have to wait for the prompt to show up to issue my command. I simply say all at once, "OK Google send text to (name) mobile." The animation catches up, then waits for my message which then I say what my message is.
Especially handy when I'm driving since I can still read the watch while I have my hands on the steering wheel at the 10 & 2 positions to make sure it got what I said.
I get many different hangouts notifications from different recipients so it's nice that I can pick which message I want to on my watch, then respond to them by voice all from my watch.
4) navigation is really helpful. I can now start Google maps navigation and get turn by turn alerts on my watch while running Ingress on my phone so I can still collect XM while driving and not miss out on navigation instructions.
The notification vibrates on my watch and lights up with the instruction, and even though I'm in the Ingress app, I still get the voice prompts from my phone which tells me to "stay on the second lane from the right" which the watch doesn't show. It only shows me that I need to make a right turn at such and such street. Really handy.
5) I'm very forgetful so before i got the watch, I set reminders with time and dates on my phone. But now, I can simply say "OK Google set a reminder for tomorrow at 12:00 pm to wish mom a happy birthday" all from my watch.
6) I installed the Pebble Locker app which allows me to make my watch a trusted Bluetooth device so I can bypass my lock screen code. And when my phone gets too far away from me (if someone were to steal it), the Bluetooth connection gets disconnected and locks my phone automatically.
These are just a few of my use cases where it's been incredibly helpful to not constantly pull out my phone from my pocket.
What are yours?
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I can control my Chromecast from the watch. I'm watching a movie through Google play and I have playback controls.
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Mine controls the lights, garage door, nest, alarm, and fireplaces with voice commands. Besides moto360 and android wear, also needed autovoice, tasker, xposed framework, ifttt, homeseer, and zwave.

dolebomo said:
Mine controls the lights, garage door, nest, alarm, and fireplaces with voice commands. Besides moto360 and android wear, also needed autovoice, tasker, xposed framework, ifttt, homeseer, and zwave.
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Awesome. I wish I could do that.
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For that Pebble Locker app, can you shorten the distance the phone will lock?
I.e. the Moto 360 Bluetooth range is pretty far and I don't want the phone to be still in its unlocked state if I wonder 25 ft away from the phone.

lanwarrior said:
For that Pebble Locker app, can you shorten the distance the phone will lock?
I.e. the Moto 360 Bluetooth range is pretty far and I don't want the phone to be still in its unlocked state if I wonder 25 ft away from the phone.
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No, I don't see an option for that in the app.
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The_other_ray said:
4) navigation is really helpful. I can now start Google maps navigation and get turn by turn alerts on my watch while running Ingress on my phone so I can still collect XM while driving and not miss out on navigation instructions.
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What I hate about navigation on the watch is that starting it will turn on the screen on my phone. If I need walking direction and the phone is on my pocket, this will burn a lot battery and the phone is prone to accidental touches.

lanwarrior said:
What I hate about navigation on the watch is that starting it will turn on the screen on my phone. If I need walking direction and the phone is on my pocket, this will burn a lot battery and the phone is prone to accidental touches.
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Yeah I noticed that also. So knowing that, I just turn my phone screen off before putting it in my pocket.
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The_other_ray said:
Yeah I noticed that also. So knowing that, I just turn my phone screen off before putting it in my pocket.
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This creates extra steps for me:
1. Say "Ok, Google. Navigate to Starbucks"
2. Get phone out of my pocket
3. Wait till routing calculations is done
4. Turn off screen
5. Put phone back in pocket
Kinda defeat the hands free feature of Android Wear, isn't it? [emoji12]

lanwarrior said:
This creates extra steps for me:
1. Say "Ok, Google. Navigate to Starbucks"
2. Get phone out of my pocket
3. Wait till routing calculations is done
4. Turn off screen
5. Put phone back in pocket
Kinda defeat the hands free feature of Android Wear, isn't it? [emoji12]
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Oh, I'm totally with you.
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The_other_ray said:
2) I play Ingress, so getting portal attack notifications or comm message notifications are really handy. I can then decide if I want to pull out my phone to recharge the portals or simply dismiss the notifications.
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I also play Ingress and I have had attack notifications off since i got my Black Gaurdian long ago, but i turned them back on the day i got my 360 and i love seeing them pop up. I can hit "Open on Phone" and when i pull the phone out of my pocket Ingress is already loading/loaded so i can recharge and/or @ the attacker in Comm.

The_other_ray said:
5) I'm very forgetful so before i got the watch, I set reminders with time and dates on my phone. But now, I can simply say "OK Google set a reminder for tomorrow at 12:00 pm to wish mom a happy birthday" all from my watch.
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One thing that annoys me, and this is more of a google now problem, is the card that shows up for an hour before reminders. I wish there was a way where you can either keep it from showing up early at all, or at least make it 10 min or something. For most reminders, I don't need it to cover my watch face for an hour and if I swipe it away I don't even get reminded at the correct time. Has anyone else noticed this?

PsychDrummer said:
One thing that annoys me, and this is more of a google now problem, is the card that shows up for an hour before reminders. I wish there was a way where you can either keep it from showing up early at all, or at least make it 10 min or something. For most reminders, I don't need it to cover my watch face for an hour and if I swipe it away I don't even get reminded at the correct time. Has anyone else noticed this?
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Yup, I noticed that as well. That doesn't make any sense.
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The_other_ray said:
Yup, I noticed that as well. That doesn't make any sense.
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I rather use Any.do for reminders but I won't be able to set it as a default app. At least I don't think.

I got my Moto 360 yesterday and tried my primary use case this morning. Wife and I run marathons and like many (some? ) runners we obsess over our stats. We've been using Garmin 410s to record our runs. My problem with that is that the pace is reports while running is really noisy - not useful for helping me to maintain my goal pace. The other issue is that the HRM gets bad readings later in my rn, probably because I perspire heavily. I got a bluetooth chest strap and it works great on my phone. But the phone is a relative PITA to use on runs. I have to keep it in a zip lock bag in a pocket and pockets are few in running gear. It's great to have an accessory on my wrist that can give me instant stats w/out digging my phone out of wherever I stowed it. Better yet, a tap on the phone starts recording when I'm ready to run, not before I stick my phone in my pocket. And when I'm done, the phone uploads my stats automatically.
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Lollipop and NFC unlocking

Just upgraded my N5 to Lollipop and was thinking of setting up Smart Lock from when I’m at home and at my desk at work using NFC tags. I use a four number PIN to unlock my phone, which is getting a little tiresome.
Is this even possible? Not sure what the range of a tag is – would I have to place the phone on it or would it be enough if I put a few tags around the house? Also how to I go about programming the tags to unlock – can I use the phone for this?
Thanks

You need to tap the back of the phone with it, and then you still need to swipe the screen to unlock it, you set it up by going to settings>security>smart lock>trusted devices

Thanks for clarifying. Didn't realise that I have to tap a NFC tag, so that won't be suitable for my purposes. Smart (Un)lock with a Bluetooth device should work though, and easily cover my flat. I could buy something small and cheap that I can always leave plugged in, acting as my personal unlock device - any ideas? Probably won't even be using it, perhaps a pair of Bluetooth speakers?
As for having to swipe to unlock - that's perfect and exactly what I'm looking for. Just want to avoid entering a PIN when at home/work

I'm using my smart watch as a trusted device and then, no need to unlock, just swipe up.

You could use something like this ring if you like wearing rings.
http://www.amazon.com/Titanium-avai...9&sr=8-1&keywords=nfc+ring&pebp=1416329643681
I've noticed that with a smart device setup (have the Bluetooth in my car setup) that while the device is connected it does not go to sleep. I would expect some pretty nasty battery drain if you're always connected to a device. My phone battery lasts the day with pretty moderate use with 15-25% left. If I kick it up a notch then it seems not last the whole day, or at least need charging at the end of the day.
I wonder if people see the battery drain with the smart devices connected all the time...

patmann03 said:
You could use something like this ring if you like wearing rings.
http://www.amazon.com/Titanium-avai...9&sr=8-1&keywords=nfc+ring&pebp=1416329643681..
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These are crap, you have to fiddle a LOT to get the phone to "see" it.

chuotdx said:
I'm using my smart watch as a trusted device and then, no need to unlock, just swipe up.
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This would indeed be the easiest solution to the “problem”, but I'm just not into smart watches… seems like yet another device I have to check and I want a watch that lasts for years on one charge. Speaking of smart watches, one of my colleagues was just handed the developer edition of the Razer Nabu at a conference – that’s definitely something I’d consider getting for my better half who walks a lot at work. I has some interesting functions apart from the usual step meter.
patmann03 said:
You could use something like this ring if you like wearing rings.
http://www.amazon.com/Titanium-avai...9&sr=8-1&keywords=nfc+ring&pebp=1416329643681
I've noticed that with a smart device setup (have the Bluetooth in my car setup) that while the device is connected it does not go to sleep. I would expect some pretty nasty battery drain if you're always connected to a device. My phone battery lasts the day with pretty moderate use with 15-25% left. If I kick it up a notch then it seems not last the whole day, or at least need charging at the end of the day.
I wonder if people see the battery drain with the smart devices connected all the time...
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Thanks for the suggestion, but rings just aren't my cup of tea. Maybe a cheap BT speaker such as http://ebay.to/1tdepnM would work? I could leave it plugged in at all times in a hidden spot and just never use it.
Regarding the device never going to sleep - that must surely be a bug? Or the worst design decision for a while. Have you tried other BT devices?

With the 6.5 version och Google Play Services trusted places can be used.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...usted-places-feature-to-lollipops-smart-lock/

ea_umea said:
With the 6.5 version och Google Play Services trusted places can be used.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...usted-places-feature-to-lollipops-smart-lock/
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Fantastic, thanks! I'll give this a spin right away
Edit: works like a charm here at work. Got the smart lock message upon the first unlock, subsequent unlocks are just a swipe away

I was so excited to finally have a use for my NFC tags when I heard about the Smart Unlock feature.
First thing I did was put a NFC sticker on my vehicle dock and added it as a trusted device. Sure enough, the phone doesn't ask me for an unlock pattern; great! HOWEVER, there is just one little problem.... After unlocking, I'm presented with the "New tag found" full-screen message which you have to manually close EVERY SINGLE TIME!
What's the story here? I've done some digging, and there's even an Xposed module to disable this message. This simply cannot be the way that Google intended for this feature to work.... Any ideas?

StNickZA said:
I was so excited to finally have a use for my NFC tags when I heard about the Smart Unlock feature.
First thing I did was put a NFC sticker on my vehicle dock and added it as a trusted device. Sure enough, the phone doesn't ask me for an unlock pattern; great! HOWEVER, there is just one little problem.... After unlocking, I'm presented with the "New tag found" full-screen message which you have to manually close EVERY SINGLE TIME!
What's the story here? I've done some digging, and there's even an Xposed module to disable this message. This simply cannot be the way that Google intended for this feature to work.... Any ideas?
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I found a fix for that, give me a min to find it again
I can't find it again.............I do know that it used 2 apps, and one was a sort of tasker app that you told it to do nothing

idbl_fanatic said:
I found a fix for that, give me a min to find it again
I can't find it again.............I do know that it used 2 apps, and one was a sort of tasker app that you told it to do nothing
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Thanks all the same, but I still think that there has to be a simpler answer here. Using a third-party application (or two!) to mask the problem cannot be what Google intended.

Google intended for NFC to be used to transfer between devices... The tags are more of a third-party support. Download Trigger, and all you have to do is register the tag. You can even set it up to do things like launch your media player, activate Bluetooth, turn up your volume, etc.

I used an expired transport card which has an NFC chip. Stuck it on the car cradle and works just fine. No need to click away any message after the initial pairing

Chris Hansen said:
Google intended for NFC to be used to transfer between devices... The tags are more of a third-party support. Download Trigger, and all you have to do is register the tag. You can even set it up to do things like launch your media player, activate Bluetooth, turn up your volume, etc.
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That may be what was originally intended, but Google has since added other features that are built in. For example, you can write a WiFi access point to a tag and it will now connect automatically WITHOUT the need for third party apps like Trigger. I still don't believe that a third party app should be required for smart unlock to work as intended.
I'm starting to think that perhaps it is the type of tag I'm using, or perhaps there is a "null" record that can be written to a tag which will prevent the built in reader from popping up.

StNickZA said:
That may be what was originally intended, but Google has since added other features that are built in. For example, you can write a WiFi access point to a tag and it will now connect automatically WITHOUT the need for third party apps like Trigger. I still don't believe that a third party app should be required for smart unlock to work as intended.
I'm starting to think that perhaps it is the type of tag I'm using, or perhaps there is a "null" record that can be written to a tag which will prevent the built in reader from popping up.
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I'm not sure why you're so against the app, but regardless, you should try it out. Use it just to write to your tag. Uninstall the app afterward. Should still work as you want it to. I have one in my car that I configured with Trigger (when it was still NFC Task Launcher). Haven't had the app installed on the last few phones I've owned, but it still works as intended - turns on my Bluetooth, ups the media volume, and launches Play Music.
As far as your tag, I believe you are correct. I vaguely remember a similar issue some years ago where the tag kept prompting with that empty message.

Chris Hansen said:
I'm not sure why you're so against the app, but regardless, you should try it out. Use it just to write to your tag. Uninstall the app afterward. Should still work as you want it to. I have one in my car that I configured with Trigger (when it was still NFC Task Launcher). Haven't had the app installed on the last few phones I've owned, but it still works as intended - turns on my Bluetooth, ups the media volume, and launches Play Music.
As far as your tag, I believe you are correct. I vaguely remember a similar issue some years ago where the tag kept prompting with that empty message.
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It's not that I am against the app (or any of the others in the Play store)... And you are 100% right, there's a lot of functionality in those apps, and it can certainly solve my issue. It's just that when Google adds a feature like this, they don't *require* you to download an after-market app for it to work. And a full-screen popup whenever you approach an NFC tag set as a "trusted device" literally BREAKS the feature in my opinion. I'm just trying to get to the bottom of it and find out what I'm doing wrong.

StNickZA said:
What's the story here? I've done some digging, and there's even an Xposed module to disable this message. This simply cannot be the way that Google intended for this feature to work.... Any ideas?
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Do you have some kind of app installed which performs actions upon touching an NFC tag (eg trigger)? I had the same messages pop up every-time, but once I installed an app and related a "display on" action to it, the messages stopped. If you don't want the tag to do anything just let it do something trivial, like enabling mobile data (which is probably enabled already anyway when you're driving). I hope this works for you.

StNickZA said:
After unlocking, I'm presented with the "New tag found" full-screen message which you have to manually close EVERY SINGLE TIME!
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Freeze Tags.apk with TiBu. Profit.

Nfc Tools
What your phone does when you touch an NFC depends on the URI that is written on the tag. You can easily check that by downloading NFC tools and scanning the tag in question. If the tag is writable and you want nothing to happen when you touch it with you phone, try writing following URI to the tag with NFC Tools: bad://access/development

Ok google

Hello I have noticed that ok Google is not recognizable from any of my devices either my smartwatch 3 or my note 3 I have already tried to set up ok google but it can recognize my voice I have tried to teach to my phone the sound of my voice but nothing I can't even pass the first object of learning any idea how to fix this problem? Thanks
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o-ellinas said:
Hello I have noticed that ok Google is not recognizable from any of my devices either my smartwatch 3 or my note 3 I have already tried to set up ok google but it can recognize my voice I have tried to teach to my phone the sound of my voice but nothing I can't even pass the first object of learning any idea how to fix this problem? Thanks
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Are you sure it's your devices and not you? I find "Okay Google" to be awkward to pronounce, especially several times in a row, due to the "k" and double "g" combo. Wish we could change the hotword. I just touch the watch...find this to be easier and more reliable. Once I do that, I find the boice recognition to be surprisingly accurate, even with names, foreign-sounding places, etc. Does your watch recognize voice if you activate it by touch? If not, you may have a microphone problem. Also, if you have an accent or something, or a stutter, I'd try having someone else say it to see if it's the device or it's you. And also, make sure the watch is lit up first and out of ambient mode. I don't think it works when the watch is in low power mode. As for not working on the phone, I had that issue on the Note3 as well when using Nova Launcher, worked fine in TouchWiz. But I'm pretty sure the watch keyword detection is not dependant on the phone, since I can activate mine even when it's disconnected from my phone.

I'm having issues with my OK Google too. It's like my watch microphone isn't working. I can't do any voice dictation into the watch. It just says "Sorry didn't catch that" when I talk to it. It worked at one point and seems to work sporadically. Now it doesn't work at all.

Not sure for how long but I think it's something like 1 week that voice commands don't work any more for me.
They are opened as web searches instead.
eg. I used to say "OK Google, set a timer for 5 minutes" and the timer would start. Now it opens web link suggestion...
Same with most other voice commands that used to be really useful.
Anyone having same problem?

Hi!
I bought one sony sw3 3 days ago, and have the same problem...I say the voice comands and it always do the search... anyone solved this? In my note 2 the comands are working fine, like call someone, send a text...
In the watch it always makes the search sugestions.
Thanks

Newbie trying to find features

So I've just got a OP3, moving from a Lumia 930 and several years with Microsoft mobile OS's and am trying to find a few answers about my new toy. I've searched Google but can't seem to find the answers I'm looking for.
Here goes, please don't flame me:
1. WP allowed me to automatically set quiet hours so only select contacts could get through and I wasn't bothered by notifications at night. I can't seem to find this option despite several walk throughs, the options listed aren't there. I know I can use the slider but sometimes when you go to bed tired you forget
2. Also looking for driving mode, when connected to Bluetooth the phone would only allow calls and texts to notify to stop distractions from other notifications.
3. Music player randomly opens, bit embarrassing when it fires up in the middle of a meeting
4. Phone screen doesn't always go off when taking a call, though this only seems to happen if I was using an app at the time the call came in.
5. I want to be able to block calls without installing an app, surely this should be a standard feature?
Think that's it currently, still getting my head around how to do things on Android and I'm sure there'll be more questions though hopefully I'll be able to find the answers myself
Thank you in advance

I can give you a few answers / recommendations. First take a look at an app called Silence Premium in the app store. This provides similar functionality to the slider but also allows the function to be time based. For example I have it set to silence all and only allow calls to come through after 11pm. At 6am I have it automatically un-silence all. This way I eliminate all the dings and beeps from Email or texts once I go to bed. The slider still functions normally as well. This should cover your first question. Note the trial version of the app is called Do not Disturb. Not sure why they chose different names for the paid and free versions.
For your second option, I use an app called Tasker to automatically enable an auto-reply to any texts that come in while driving. This feature is automatically enabled and disabled upon connecting to the Bluetooth in the car. Tasker is a pretty powerful app and can do a ton of different things. However it does have a bit of a learning curve and can definitely be intimidating. A similar app exists called Automate that might provide similar functionality. I haven't used it yet so can't really comment.
Hope this helps.

Question Google Assistant Lost the "Beep" Sound

I posted this question in the A13 Beta 4 thread but didn't got any feedback, so post it as a separate question to see if someone can help.
I switch to A13 since beta 2 and just updated to beta 4, everything seems run smoothly. However, I just found out that my "Google Assistant" lost the "beep" sound! What it means is that if I say "OK, Google" or "Hey, Google", I can carry out to give the command or instruction as I want but I am losing the "Ting" sound of the reaction once I say "OK Goolge" or "Hey Google". It's not really a big deal but just gave me a funny feeling as I would have to look at the phone screen to see if Google Assistant really working. All I can say is that I don't know when this is started as I didn't use Google Assistant for quite a long time, but it is definitely working when my P6P was on A12.
Can't someone confirm if this is just me or if there is a setting I can get this "beep" sound to come back. I play around with the phone for a couple hours and couldn't figure out any setting in "Google" app, "Assistant" app and system sound to have this be related.

acwcanada said:
I posted this question in the A13 Beta 4 thread but didn't got any feedback, so post it as a separate question to see if someone can help.
I switch to A13 since beta 2 and just updated to beta 4, everything seems run smoothly. However, I just found out that my "Google Assistant" lost the "beep" sound! What it means is that if I say "OK, Google" or "Hey, Google", I can carry out to give the command or instruction as I want but I am losing the "Ting" sound of the reaction once I say "OK Goolge" or "Hey Google". It's not really a big deal but just gave me a funny feeling as I would have to look at the phone screen to see if Google Assistant really working. All I can say is that I don't know when this is started as I didn't use Google Assistant for quite a long time, but it is definitely working when my P6P was on A12.
Can't someone confirm if this is just me or if there is a setting I can get this "beep" sound to come back. I play around with the phone for a couple hours and couldn't figure out any setting in "Google" app, "Assistant" app and system sound to have this be related.
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You have to turn on an accessibility option. Once I remember where it's at I will post again

thethruth said:
You have to turn on an accessibility option. Once I remember where it's at I will post again
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And then you turn on switch access but it doesn't make the system run as smoothly for some reason. I want the beep as well but I had to eventually turn the option off. Try it out. Don't see if you like it

thethruth said:
And then you turn on switch access but it doesn't make the system run as smoothly for some reason. I want the beep as well but I had to eventually turn the option off. Try it out. Don't see if you like it
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Thanks for pointing me to this. Like you said, I don't like it at all! I even not giving enough time to see if it would affect how the system runs but getting an accessibility slider when volume button is pressed when "Switch Access" is turned on already make me hate it. I couldn't find a thing how this accessibility slider is doing but definitely don't want it to appear whenever I press the volume button.
I never turn on anything in Accessibility menu, always leave it as default. This seems to be a A13 thing as I remember that the Assistant has the beep when I was on A12. Anyway, I will try to make myself get used to this behavior.