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Carbon Fiber like back....

Made this myself. Own my own vinyl sign business so had some carbon fiber scraps laying around. I think it came out looking pretty good. What do you guys think?

I'm not a a fan of carbon fiber, but you did a fantastic job!!

looking good
wow. That looks good. Is your tab white or gray? Im looking for a carbon back for my gray tab. Dont know if i should put one on or not. I like how yours look.

Cool part is, its quality vinyl. So I can take it off with no residue and do what ever color I feel. Have a matte black on there right now.

sic_lic1o1 said:
wow. That looks good. Is your tab white or gray? Im looking for a carbon back for my gray tab. Dont know if i should put one on or not. I like how yours look.
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Mine is Gray. Although a matte white vinyl cover looked pretty good too.

Aaron636r said:
Mine is Gray. Although a matte white vinyl cover looked pretty good too.
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How much will it cost to make 1? Im interested in getting 1

sic_lic1o1 said:
How much will it cost to make 1? Im interested in getting 1
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Carbon is a little more. But any basic color. Well, never want to get rich of my fellow Android lovers. Maybe $8 plus shipping. Sounds reasonable.
However, would like to send a free one to some one...just so I know there is no issues. I may be more reasonable with my own work
So first person to post they want a free one after this post...its all yours. But you must report back to me what you think.

Ill e happy to test one. Sent pm.

bellyslap said:
Ill e happy to test one. Sent pm.
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Ill be looking for your email address. Pick a color.
Red, Black (matte black), White, Matte White, Blue, Android Green, pink, maroon, yellow. All I can think of right now I know I have

Sent a pm on the matte black. Looking forward to testing it...will post a review.

Posted with no means to kill your business
http://www.sgpstore.com/sgp-samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-skin-guard-set-series.html

jeandujardin01 said:
Posted with no means to kill your business
http://www.sgpstore.com/sgp-samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-skin-guard-set-series.html
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Oh no, go ahead. No means a business nor was this OP to sell anything. No worries...

jeandujardin01 said:
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http://www.sgpstore.com/sgp-samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-skin-guard-set-series.html
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Plus that's $20. Same material

pm sent. let me know . thanks

Aaron636r said:
Carbon is a little more. But any basic color. Well, never want to get rich of my fellow Android lovers. Maybe $8 plus shipping. Sounds reasonable.
However, would like to send a free one to some one...just so I know there is no issues. I may be more reasonable with my own work
So first person to post they want a free one after this post...its all yours. But you must report back to me what you think.
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im interested but i know im a little late haha.... any luck? if not id be interested in purchasing one, let me know how much it will cost : D

Aaron636r said:
Ill be looking for your email address. Pick a color.
Red, Black (matte black), White, Matte White, Blue, Android Green, pink, maroon, yellow. All I can think of right now I know I have
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oh man.. i wouldn't mind trying it upfront too
i'm here in Singapore and i got my tab 10.1 from google io... the tab 10.1 is only going on sale end this month and mine has been naked except for an improvised ipad 2 protector on the front. i was hoping to give it some back protection

Let me know if you have an extra matte one for sale

Let me get another forum member to test and review before I post "for sale". Want to make sure their good to go and you can also get another member's opinion.
Thank guys

Can you make the carbon like cover the whole back like this one?
http://www.bodyguardz.com/armor-carbon-fiber-samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1.html

sic_lic1o1 said:
Can you make the carbon like cover the whole back like this one?
http://www.bodyguardz.com/armor-carbon-fiber-samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1.html
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I'm sure I could. Only piece missing now is the top by the camera. Just need to get the design down right. I will see what I can do.

3rd party metal bands

Gadgetwhore has a post on 3rd party metal bands. I see the warning from Moto about possible interference with radios, but I'm still very tempted... especially when one is only $12 from Amazon. What do you guys think?

Dan76 said:
Gadgetwhore has a post on 3rd party metal bands. I see the warning from Moto about possible interference with radios, but I'm still very tempted... especially when one is only $12 from Amazon. What do you guys think?
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Meh. I say just get a band that you like and put it on. Maybe we should get people to post pictures of their M360 with their aftermarket metal band along with a purchase link and any special information so people could get one if they like it? But only bands that are actually confirmed as compatible and being used by the poster. Not to hijack or anything.

Dusty Rhodes said:
Meh. I say just get a band that you like and put it on. Maybe we should get people to post pictures of their M360 with their aftermarket metal band along with a purchase link and any special information so people could get one if they like it? But only bands that are actually confirmed as compatible and being used by the poster. Not to hijack or anything.
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Already thread in general forum.
Ian B

Stopped by the store and picked up the pebble steel band but didn't like how it tapered down. Had this new band installed at a jewelers yesterday..

AfroCreame said:
Stopped by the store and picked up the pebble steel band but didn't like how it tapered down. Had this new band installed at a jewelers yesterday..
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That looks sweet! So I take it that band was purchased at the jewelry store, do you mind if I ask how much it was for the band and installation?

blockhead___ said:
That looks sweet! So I take it that band was purchased at the jewelry store, do you mind if I ask how much it was for the band and installation?
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Yes, it was around $80 installed.

AfroCreame said:
Yes, it was around $80 installed.
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You're joking, right . Your band looks great, but that's a lot, especially considering the finish of your band. It looks like it will scratch up like crazy.

opasha said:
You're joking, right . Your band looks great, but that's a lot, especially considering the finish of your band. It looks like it will scratch up like crazy.
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Well actually he paid the exact cost of what Moto will charge people to buy the metal bands separately later this year...

Crazypinoy9 said:
Well actually he paid the exact cost of what Moto will charge people to buy the metal bands separately later this year...
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Yes, of that I am quite aware. Anyone who buys that ugly band...I deeply pity them - it looks like trash compared to their original (beautiful) render. They didn't even get the right dimensions when they created the connecting point. Have you seen the Engadget pics of it? It sticks out so far from the watch as if it's some cheap attachment. Paying $80 for that garbage?

opasha said:
Yes, of that I am quite aware. Anyone who buys that ugly band...I deeply pity them - it looks like trash compared to their original (beautiful) render. They didn't even get the right dimensions when they created the connecting point. Have you seen the Engadget pics of it? It sticks out so far from the watch as if it's some cheap attachment. Paying $80 for that garbage?
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The really interesting thing about that photo is it shows the official band doesn't just clip in, it has some sort of plastic adapter. The iFixit review thought that the outer steel casing was grounded to the internals. Motorola claimed metal bands can cause interference. If that's the case, maybe this plastic adapter is to ensure the metal band never touches the metal case, since the case may be the antenna?

AfroCreame said:
Stopped by the store and picked up the pebble steel band but didn't like how it tapered down. Had this new band installed at a jewelers yesterday..
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Have you experienced any interference with the bluetooth?

ChrisAshton84 said:
The really interesting thing about that photo is it shows the official band doesn't just clip in, it has some sort of plastic adapter. The iFixit review thought that the outer steel casing was grounded to the internals. Motorola claimed metal bands can cause interference. If that's the case, maybe this plastic adapter is to ensure the metal band never touches the metal case, since the case may be the antenna?
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This could very well be true or just a fabrication so that people only buy their metal band. Just look at all the bands everyone is trying/discussing and successfully using. Moto knew this might happen, but probably didn't expect it to this degree. So I guess, the only story for them to get any sales at all would be to say something like this plastic adapter only comes with and fits our metal band. So if you don't want interference, you can only buy our band, until some company makes a plastic piece themselves and charges 3-5 dollars for it. Then, their argument is completely shot, lol.

If you are interested here are some of the best looking watch strap for Moto360 smartwatch I think
http://www.smartwatchappcenter.com/best-motobest-moto360-watch-strap-replacement-steel-watch-band-for-black-moto360.html

senseijuan said:
If you are interested here are some of the best looking watch strap for Moto360 smartwatch I think
http://www.smartwatchappcenter.com/...ement-steel-watch-band-for-black-moto360.html
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Although they are all black only.
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opasha said:
Yes, of that I am quite aware. Anyone who buys that ugly band...I deeply pity them - it looks like trash compared to their original (beautiful) render. They didn't even get the right dimensions when they created the connecting point. Have you seen the Engadget pics of it? It sticks out so far from the watch as if it's some cheap attachment. Paying $80 for that garbage?
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I like that stock metal band, it looks very nice. I think the reason it looks nicer than any aftermarket one is that it's oversized, you can see that the band is wider than the slot it fits into. I'd guess it's at least 24mm and also it doesn't taper.. It's such a huge watch it needs a very wide strap otherwise it looks cheesy.
I can see the attachment point looking odd if you have thin wrists, as the person in your pictures does. Then when it exits out it makes a sharp 90 degree turn down and looks like it doesn't belong, a curved adapter like many watchband have would have solved this. I'll bet it looks good with a thicker wrist though.
Here is a pic of the moto band unattached, I don't think its a plastic adapter at all. It looks like the attachment points are simply tapered down arms.

I got a relic band, it's stainless steel and I have had it on for about a day and no issues with any signal or anything

So the are not offering the band they originally showed with the watch? That was a huge buying decision for me

cds36 said:
So the are not offering the band they originally showed with the watch? That was a huge buying decision for me
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they are, but at a later date. For early adopters they will offer the band for a special price.

Hey guys,
we in Germany must wait till 10/09 to buy the moto360.
I am searching right now for a metal band. Before I buy one should i know how the surface is. Is it glossy or mat?
I am deciding between these two:
Glossy:
http://www.uhrenarmband-versand.de/Uhrenbandversand-p18413h572s2721-Uhrenarmband-Edelsta.html
Mat:
http://www.uhrenarmband-versand.de/Uhrenbandversand-p18417h572s2721-Uhrenarmband-Edelsta.html
Thanks
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WingnutStrikesBack said:
Hey guys,
we in Germany must wait till 10/09 to buy the moto360.
I am searching right now for a metal band. Before I buy one should i know how the surface is. Is it glossy or mat?
I am deciding between these two:
Glossy:
http://www.uhrenarmband-versand.de/Uhrenbandversand-p18413h572s2721-Uhrenarmband-Edelsta.html
Mat:
http://www.uhrenarmband-versand.de/Uhrenbandversand-p18417h572s2721-Uhrenarmband-Edelsta.html
Thanks
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The finish of the Moto360 is pretty reflective/glossy but not too glossy. Here are two completely different watch bands with the black.
1) Pebble Steel Black Metal Band: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55450516&postcount=10
2) Glossy Black Metal Band: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55338761&postcount=105
Here's the full thread for watch bands: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-360/general/thread-to-discuss-22mm-watch-bands-t2868429

Grey vs. Stone Grey

The product image looks a bit different. The grey over at Motorola looks lighter than the product image on Best Buy or the Play Store for grey.
Also, Best Buy and Play Store show a color option as just "Grey". But Motorola lists it as "Stone Grey".
Are there 3 (Black, Stone Grey, and Grey) different leather band options or just 2? Or is it Best Buy and Google Play being lazy to add the world "Stone"?
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supposedly Stone Grey was a limited edition.. not sure also if that means its a 3rd strap or they just meant the grey strap in general and didnt add "stone"

its_dale said:
supposedly Stone Grey was a limited edition.. not sure also if that means its a 3rd strap or they just meant the grey strap in general and didnt add "stone"
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i called moto and they said they were the same...because i made two orders from them, one was grey, and the other stone grey...i'm pretty sure he just made up an answer though. Anything to get you off the phone faster.

I thought Best Buy had an exclusive on the gray band. Was that just temporary or am I mistaken?
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JimSmith94 said:
I thought Best Buy had an exclusive on the gray band. Was that just temporary or am I mistaken?
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I got mine through moto and is silver with the grey band.
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Stone Gray popped up on BestBuy.com today. So now they have 3 listed.

There are two greys. The stone grey one is actually a bit purple!
I am not sure which one is meant to be limited edition or if simply they ran out of one grey and sourced a different strap as a temporary measure!!

jonstatt said:
There are two greys. The stone grey one is actually a bit purple!
I am not sure which one is meant to be limited edition or if simply they ran out of one grey and sourced a different strap as a temporary measure!!
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On launch, when I ordered directly with moto, the site said the Gray is a launch day color only and the color will change later to the "stone" gray. But that may have changed since launch.

I got lucky and found a returned original dark gray at my local Best Buy this afternoon. It was marked down to $217.99 and with my Post Office 10% coupon, it was $191.88 plus tax.

New 'stone' leather bands are shipping from Motorola

There's been some discussion about this buried in other threads, but today I received my Moto 360 which I'd ordered from Motorola.com on 9/16, and I can confirm that the band is the third, newer color, which Motorola had said would take the place of the gray leather.
I'd previously seen both a gray and a black strap on the Best Buy display units, so off the bat visually I can tell this is the new color. Additionally, and interestingly, the underside of the packaging has a [hastily torn off the thermal printer] sticker, which is laid OVER another sticker underneath, and it's quite clear the original sticker said "GREY LEATHER" and the new sticker says "STONE LEATHER".
I'd describe the color of the band as kind of a purplish gray actually. I definitely prefer the original gray if I had a choice, but this'll do until it gets replaced.

Picture please

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This camera is not terribly color accurate
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You can see the GRAY LEATHER text underneath the newer sticker on top
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I got mine yesterday and it's with the new color. I just thought the gray just looked different in the pictures but I didn't realize that they actually changed it. My wife noticed the purplish tint to it. Thanks for explaining.
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matthewf01 said:
You can see the GRAY LEATHER text underneath the newer sticker on top
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Does it have a suede finish like the grey band does? I didnt realize that Moto was selling the 'new' color; I actually like the grey band better.

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Does it have a suede finish?
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Not suede, its a fairly smooth grain on top. The inside has a very slight softness, like suede, to it. I felt like the gray band felt softer to me, but could be because it was handled to death at best buy... It was very worn in.
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matthewf01 said:
Not suede, its a fairly smooth grain on top. The inside has a very slight softness, like suede, to it. I felt like the gray band felt softer to me, but could be because it was handled to death at best buy... It was very worn in.
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Yes, the grey band is soft & has a suede finish to it. Since I returned my grey moto 360 to BB due to it malfunctioning, I ordered a 'replacement' from Moto on 9/16 but thought I was ordering the same band. Sucks. Time to see if I can find one to buy.

Fossil has a couple of great looking 22mm leather bands for under $25 with free return shipping if it doesn't fit or you don't like it, so I'll probably get a sturdier band anyway.
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Could you please confirm me that the the Model ID for the Stone Leather Moto360 is 00583NARTL? It's written on the sticker you mention, on the back of the box.
The question is due because on my local forum no one would believe me that there are three variants of Moto360 currently being sold. None of the Youtube reviewers seem to be aware of this as well. But the funniest stuff is that when on Motorola's site you select the Stone leather Moto360 you get the wrong picture of the watch (with a dark gray band). Three days ago I contacted Motorola's help chat to mention this and to suggest they change the image back to the one they used a week ago, but the guy at the help desk (named Aaron) didn't know which watch Motorola was selling and told me "we will verify the site". Three days have pased, the wrong picture is still there...
Anyways, for those of you who want to see the difference between the three straps, please find below the images with all three Moto360's available today.

matthewf01 said:
There's been some discussion about this buried in other threads, but today I received my Moto 360 which I'd ordered from Motorola.com on 9/16, and I can confirm that the band is the third, newer color, which Motorola had said would take the place of the gray leather.
I'd previously seen both a gray and a black strap on the Best Buy display units, so off the bat visually I can tell this is the new color. Additionally, and interestingly, the underside of the packaging has a [hastily torn off the thermal printer] sticker, which is laid OVER another sticker underneath, and it's quite clear the original sticker said "GREY LEATHER" and the new sticker says "STONE LEATHER".
I'd describe the color of the band as kind of a purplish gray actually. I definitely prefer the original gray if I had a choice, but this'll do until it gets replaced.
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matthew, when did you order your moto 360? I'm still waiting on mine and should be delivered tomorrow.

arbalet42 said:
Could you please confirm me that the the Model ID for the Stone Leather Moto360 is 00583NARTL? It's written on the sticker you mention, on the back of the box.
The question is due because on my local forum no one would believe me that there are three variants of Moto360 currently being sold. None of the Youtube reviewers seem to be aware of this as well. But the funniest stuff is that when on Motorola's site you select the Stone leather Moto360 you get the wrong picture of the watch (with a dark gray band). Three days ago I contacted Motorola's help chat to mention this and to suggest they change the image back to the one they used a week ago, but the guy at the help desk (named Aaron) didn't know which watch Motorola was selling and told me "we will verify the site". Three days have pased, the wrong picture is still there...
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00583NARTL
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matthew, when did you order your moto 360? I'm still waiting on mine and should be delivered tomorrow.
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As of this morning Bestbuy.com now has 3 Moto 360's listed...
Black Leather 00418NARTL
Gray Leather 00419NARTL
Stone Leather 00583NARTL

Official bands are here!!!!!!!

www.engadget.com/2014/11/06/moto360-metal-bands/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000602
http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/05/...vity&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews

And they are expanding the leather options with some from DODO case, PLUS they are finally adding the winning watch face from the face-off contest!

What happened to the good looking one in all the promo shots?

Is it me or are there still no links to actually purchase the band's separately?
Takin Notes..

Yup.. Seems like they ain't releasing the bands separately

So they're here, but not here. Thanks Motorola.

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What happened to the good looking one in all the promo shots?
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Indeed, that one looks much better. This new one looks crap.

Apparently ATT has the bands available individually now...
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/11/0...al-individual-watch-bands-right-now-from-att/
I can't tell if the "Gray Lether" is the initial Gray, or the Stone Gray (Based on Moto's Blog it should be STONE Gray)
Amazon has a listing for the "Dark Metal" band -> http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Mobi...sbs_cps_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=0B9DJ4AVD63GXN0XAJB7 but its not available yet.

$80 for the metal bands?????????????????????????????????????????????
Thats crazy.

Are these bands even available for pickup anywhere? Or is this online order only

Went into an AT&T store today and the people there said that it's online order only.

More coming...
I missed that there are pictures of the future bands are available at -> https://drive.google.com/?tab=mo&authuser=0&pli=1#folders/0B8Kpi4PsQvSQVFBDRk1LOHA4ZGs
(link is found at the bottom of http://motorola-blog.blogspot.com/2014/11/moto-360-choose-watch-that-fits-your.html )
The pictures there show the Cognac_Leather, DoDo_Pumpkin_Tan, Dodo_Red, Dodo_Slate_Blue, Dodo_Teal, Tylt_Black, Tylt_Navy, Tylt_Olive, Tylt_Purple
Kind of interesting.
I wonder when they will the rest will be available, and from where?

It's probably a little over priced, but I just ordered one of the silver steel bands. If it saves my plastic from cracking it's worth it. I tried a Pebble band and it's ok I'm just really nervous the back will crank, I even Dremeled it a bit but it doesn't seem to take much stress off the edge of the plastic bottom. I will post back with pictures and more details of how it turns out if you guys want. And I'm not willing to void my warranty installing the super engineer 2 band, or whatever it's called, which also costs 80$ for the band.

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It's probably a little over priced, but I just ordered one of the silver steel bands. If it saves my plastic from cracking it's worth it. I tried a Pebble band and it's ok I'm just really nervous the back will crank, I even Dremeled it a bit but it doesn't seem to take much stress off the edge of the plastic bottom. I will post back with pictures and more details of how it turns out if you guys want. And I'm not willing to void my warranty installing the super engineer 2 band, or whatever it's called, which also costs 80$ for the band.
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Do post pictures of how the band fits into the watch, when you have it installed. [emoji4]

DrPopper said:
It's probably a little over priced, but I just ordered one of the silver steel bands. If it saves my plastic from cracking it's worth it. I tried a Pebble band and it's ok I'm just really nervous the back will crank, I even Dremeled it a bit but it doesn't seem to take much stress off the edge of the plastic bottom. I will post back with pictures and more details of how it turns out if you guys want. And I'm not willing to void my warranty installing the super engineer 2 band, or whatever it's called, which also costs 80$ for the band.
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do you have a link for the silver band?

Im concerned about the size of the bands. Im at rep at AT&T, and when we got in the moto 360 with the dark metal band i tried it on. It was really tight! Im a big guy, but not big enough were my wrists would be above average girth, so for an average male those bands are small. Are they sold in sizes? Can you add links to the band? I looked inside the box and there were no extra links. Am I going to have to buy the watch that comes with the metal band AND buy an additional metal band just to get links out of it to add to the main? Anyone know?

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Im concerned about the size of the bands. Im at rep at AT&T, and when we got in the moto 360 with the dark metal band i tried it on. It was really tight! Im a big guy, but not big enough were my wrists would be above average girth, so for an average male those bands are small. Are they sold in sizes? Can you add links to the band? I looked inside the box and there were no extra links. Am I going to have to buy the watch that comes with the metal band AND buy an additional metal band just to get links out of it to add to the main? Anyone know?
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Everywhere I've read has said it comes with 4 extra links. One guy said he couldn't find them like you, but upon further inspection of the packaging, they were in a little paper envelope. Maybe you just missed it?

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Everywhere I've read has said it comes with 4 extra links. One guy said he couldn't find them like you, but upon further inspection of the packaging, they were in a little paper envelope. Maybe you just missed it?
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Its possible! I inspected the box very quickly because I was on the clock, lol. I will check again first thing tomorrow! Just to be sure, you are referring to the watch that already comes with the band, not the band by itself, correct?

darkleafar said:
Its possible! I inspected the box very quickly because I was on the clock, lol. I will check again first thing tomorrow! Just to be sure, you are referring to the watch that already comes with the band, not the band by itself, correct?
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Correct. The one that costs $299 and comes with the metal band instead of the leather band. I've been holding out this entire time for the metal band version to finally be released, and I ordered it from Best Buy today. Getting it shipped to store, so should be here in a few days. Can't wait.

Has anyone actually found the metal band in the wild yet, or is AT&T the only place you can get them? For anyone who has ordered from AT&T, how long did it take to get the band?