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[Q] RAM, less than advertised?

I had the Rent A Razr and it ran smooth on stock with many apps running and still had about 450mb of free RAM free. Half the apps on my GNex and at about 300 remaining. Does ICS use more ram than the older systems?
System specs says:
711688kb total
61236 free
151804 inactive
Can someone clarify this a bit more? Just did some math, that's correct.

I dont have a gnex but on my fascinate, ICS 4.0 uses alot more RAM then 2.3.7 GB does.

would also like to know this... looks like we have 600 to 700mb memory... very odd

300mb or so is reserved for the system.
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joshnichols189 said:
300mb or so is reserved for the system.
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That sounds about right. I guess it does use more ram than Gingerbread.
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RAM not being used is ram wasted. Really shouldn't worry about how much is being used tbh, only when there is no available ram there is a problem. ICS manages its ram fine and there should never be problems with too little ram. Wouldn't worry yourself over it.
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Those missing ram are dedicated to the GPU. Though in cyanogenmod, they modified it so that the GPU will only take what it needs.
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free ram on galaxy note 2

hiya, a bit of a random question, but could someone please tell me how much free ram they have on their note 2 on average? (should be checkable in the task manager if the note 2 still has one) i know it has 2gb total ram, but im curious to see how much of that ram is already used and how much i will actually have to play around with.
i know some of you will argue that 'free ram is wasted ram' and 'it doesnt matter since android will auto kill off background apps to give your current app more ram', but to me, these arguments are meaningless/irrelevent. on my current galaxy note, the ram management doesnt suit my usage style. everytime i open the browser, switch out of it and load another app, then re open the browser, all tabs have to reload, which is a sign to me that all the memory used by the browser has been dumped. vice versa as well, as occasionally i will switch out of a game to send a message and then when i switch back to the game, i find out that the memory used by the game has been dumped as well and i have now lost my progress in said game.
TLDR version: basically, what i wanna know is if i were to purchase the note 2 as an upgrade for my note, can i expect to be able to multitask between an app or three without it dumping the memory used by the previous app.

you will have about 1.75gb of ram

Hell Guardian said:
you will have about 1.75gb of ram
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im assuming not all of that will be free. ie. on my galaxy note n7000, theres 800mb of the 1gb listed as usable, but on average, only 100-200mb of that is free.

1.75gb free at boot
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Souai said:
im assuming not all of that will be free. ie. on my galaxy note n7000, theres 800mb of the 1gb listed as usable, but on average, only 100-200mb of that is free.
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1.75 available to the user, of that about 1.25 free after boot.
I have updated from note 1 to 2 only because of ram, believe me, now works nice and like note 1 should have been, the biggest improvement.

ram is the only thing i am hating galaxy s3 for, if rams is all good on note 2, i will buy
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Ram is actually very impressive better than my wifes s3
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1.75GB after the reboot
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goo to devep option and click DONT KEEP ACTIVITY should always use less ram

mrej201 said:
goo to devep option and click DONT KEEP ACTIVITY should always use less ram
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But this defeats the benefits of having 2gb of ram.
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The best ram management is having a program like rom toolbox or fast reboot and configuring android to start to kill apps when they have less than 250mb available.
It will kill when the phone hits the line of possible struggle, so it will be always fast and snappy, and you will have about 1gb of apps in memory to open it fast.

mancuk29 said:
Ram is actually very impressive better than my wifes s3
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wow, i am really jealous, s3 uses almost same amount of ram but the remaiming is just like 150-200mb, really laggy
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I have free ram around 1200
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Hi guys, just got mine today and I absolutely love it! I'm coming from a S2.. so this is my first note... When I saw this thread. .I got curious and have been checking my ram.. surprisingly contrary to all the parts above except for the op.. I always see that my ram is used to the extent of 1.55 gigs all the time Is this something I should be concerned about? My phone actually froze a couple of times as well. It could be that since its so new I'm on it continuously and therefore so little ram is available... Please let me know your thoughts..
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mancuk29 said:
Ram is actually very impressive better than my wifes s3
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hmm, wow, thats exactly what i was after. thanks!

while on the topic of ram I'm curious if the LTE models have less ram available to them vs the standard hspa model? I wouldnt think there would be much difference, but maybe some

americasteam said:
But this defeats the benefits of having 2gb of ram.
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Certainly does! I really don't understand why some people chase free RAM as it is only of any use whilst it is being used.
Coming from a Note 1, with only 1GB of memory, I notice a massive difference in multitasking performance because the OS isn't having to kill tasks in order to launch new ones, meaning switching between them is so much faster.
Android does a very good job of managing available memory, so let it do its job.
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Dave
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With the note 2 I never had to go to the task manager and manually free the ram (except before launching benchmarks). It just works lol.
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CreepyDroid said:
With the note 2 I never had to go to the task manager and manually free the ram (except before launching benchmarks). It just works lol.
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Oh noes now Apple will sue your a**! they have that term patented! you better hide boy :silly:

After a day of use from a reboot, I still have between 1Gb and 800Mb of free RAM, without deliberately shutting anything down or changing any developer settings from stock.

Samsung GS4 3GB of RAM :P

Alot of people are hating...for me this is sick!!! what u guys think???
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s4-other-2013-samsung-smartphones-pack-3gb-ram-120434/

In hope its true I can't wait for the S4 either way
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budde2 said:
In hope its true I can't wait for the S4 either way
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pretty sure its true+ exynos 5450 2Ghz Quad Core+ the new 13MP camera samsung is working on it...
lol sick already killing the next iCrap 6 hahahahaahhahaahhaahah

I think 4 gb of ram should be the minimum.
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I thought they already announced that a gs4 won't come out next year, I mean people that bought the S3 would be disappointed, especially if their locked into a contract. Not to say that I wouldn't mind paying full price. Plus 2gigs of ram is not bad, most phones are still playing catch up with the S3, just look at the iphone hahaha

There must be some feature that eats a ton of ram for them to put 3gigs
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Se7enLogic said:
There must be some feature that eats a ton of ram for them to put 3gigs
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we all know they gonna drop alot of heavy features...but those make companies jealous and hard to catch up...thats what makes Galaxy line unique

ionthedemon said:
I thought they already announced that a gs4 won't come out next year, I mean people that bought the S3 would be disappointed, especially if their locked into a contract. Not to say that I wouldn't mind paying full price. Plus 2gigs of ram is not bad, most phones are still playing catch up with the S3, just look at the iphone hahaha
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There are trusted source rumors of a slightly revamped s3 starting to float around with only a few changes...like quadcore, additional ram and more mp camera...
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yoniinfante said:
pretty sure its true+ exynos 5450 2Ghz Quad Core+ the new 13MP camera samsung is working on it...
lol sick already killing the next iCrap 6 hahahahaahhahaahhaahah
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Hah, prepare to be disappointed.
I'm gonna guess it'll just be a minor upgrade...
1.8Ghz Tegra 4/Exynos CPU
Standard 8MP camera
2 or 3GB of RAM
4.8" or 5" 720p SAMOLED++ screen, can't say whether they'll use PenTile or not.

One thing it should have is at least 2GB ddr3 maybe even a 128GB storage model, I'm sure the iphone6 will use these parts and Sammy may as well to, since they wIll be the first to produce them in a mobile chip

It needs a usb port on the top and bottom too.
That would be awesome.
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Of course people in the HTC camp are gonna hate. Samsung pulls out all the stops. Bring on the 3GB!

They need to do away with ex_sdcard... what's more external than dropbox? add 32 gb of internal and your good.

Well they probably will make it into quad core since the note 2 will come with the exynos chip. They finally support lte. I would still wait for the next galaxy though.

Blasphemy! A new phone coming out that's faster than my phone?! Omg

6in screen with 4gb would be nice.

deuce_sfx said:
They need to do away with ex_sdcard... what's more external than dropbox? add 32 gb of internal and your good.
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Ah the eternal debate. I like expandable storage that doesn't rely on a good connection to access my stuff. Hey freeza, how are you liking the s3 so far?

Hope its true I'll be having an update about that time
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metalfan78 said:
Ah the eternal debate. I like expandable storage that doesn't rely on a good connection to access my stuff. Hey freeza, how are you liking the s3 so far?
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I like external storage too. They just need to find a better way to utilize it when having large internal storage as well.
Oh, and this is easily the best phone I've owned. I say that about almost every phone I get, but I was just kidding myself if I ever said it with the EVO 3D and EVO 4G. I haven't had one issue with this phone since I bought it. I would have had to already return any HTC phone for some reason or another and I did with the EVO 3D, 4G, and LTE. 3D had screen separation issues, 4G developed a random spot, and the LTE had a weird lighting problem towards the bottom that looked like a string of LEDs were at the bottom of my screen.

I have the evo lte and was thinking about switching to the sg3, I'm not really a fan of the hardware button though. I can't decide that's why I wanted your opinion, I've used your stuff since the original evo.

[Q] Worth waiting for the 32/64 GB verion?

I've been holding out on getting a Note 2 because I worry that 16gb isn't enough space for apps (I like games), and don't want to have to mess with directory bind and such. However, a month on and there's no word of US availability of larger capacity versions, and I'm wondering if I should just bite the bullet. Should I keep holding out, or get a 16gb?

You can always flash the patch which swaps sd with virtual sd. Works for s3 and note2. Will post link when im on my laptop . I'm using it and don't notice any difference playing games like Nova 3 or modern combat 3 speed wise
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If u wont use those bind apps, then u should wait for the 32g/64 g version then, the real storage u got is 10 g and u can only install ~4 large games.
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[Q] l28i

Hi I thought these phones say they have 1 gb when they don't only 700mb of ram whats with that? 661.9

mcmanone said:
Hi I thought these phones say they have 1 gb when they don't only 700mb of ram whats with that? 661.9
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The rest is dedicated to kernel, camera, screen and other core features...

ok
So why the lg Nexus 4 says 2gb? they say it has 2gb of ram and it shows up as such.
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The rest is dedicated to kernel, camera, screen and other core features...
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mcmanone said:
So why the lg Nexus 4 says 2gb? they say it has 2gb of ram and it shows up as such.
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AFAIK, the device maker can opt to choose or not whether that dedicated RAM will be shown to system. Sony opted out. Google with Nexus opted in...
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