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Hi guys I have some questions about the new Firmware and KitKat in general and you may have answers I'll try to update first post with your answers!
-Will I loose root when I flash through Odin? --> Yes
-Is the new firmware rootable, or is there a way to keep root when I upgrade from rooted 4.3?
-->For upgrade yes: If you are rooted on 4.3 you can restore root by flashing a custom recovery and flash superSU manually.
-->chainfire autoroot works but you need to update the superSU app through play store after flashing.
-Will KitKat restrict access to my SD card? -->Yes but fixable through an app or editing a file (needs root), there is already a thread about that.
-Can I still use flash with KitKat? How?
-->Yes, there is a hacked version see 2nd post for link.
-How is the touchscreen driver? Is the stuttering fixed? Do touch and hold actions still drop after ~23sec?
-->Pretty much fixed. To about the same state as the improved Kernel we had a while ago.
-Are there any apps that are not working (root apps too)?
-Gesture Controls? --> works
-Xposed framework app settings? -->works
-Is Hancom Office included or does it still work? --> not included but does still work.
Thats about what I can think of a the moment.
Hi,
If you are already rooted then all you have to do is re install TWRP and then flash SU zip then you have root.
For flash player, download hacked version here, it works I tested it on new software :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/go...e-how-to-play-flash-video-android-4-t2548001
Also, xposed works. Tested it on new software
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Chainfire's Auto Root does work, once you flash it thru odin and reboot, go to the Play store and update the app.
- Please update OP
Here's a question: I'm already rooted. Is flashing the stock KitKat image via Odin and rerooting the only way to upgrade?
starfall42 said:
Here's a question: I'm already rooted. Is flashing the stock KitKat image via Odin and rerooting the only way to upgrade?
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If you are already rooted, I assume you have TWRP too. Just download this KitKat rom, full wipe and install.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2720631
Itchiee said:
Chainfire's Auto Root does work, once you flash it thru odin and reboot, go to the Play store and update the app.
- Please update OP
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Not for me I flashed a stock 4.4 kit kat on my tablet coming from root 4.3. I then flashed chainfire autoroot thru odin on the 4.4 and the superuser there only problem is it displays this ' There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install this is a problem! I formatted my 4.3 before flashing it maybe thats why?
itachi30s said:
Not for me I flashed a stock 4.4 kit kat on my tablet coming from root 4.3. I then flashed chainfire autoroot thru odin on the 4.4 and the superuser there only problem is it displays this ' There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install this is a problem! I formatted my 4.3 before flashing it maybe thats why?
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Not sure... I installed KK on the tablet via Odin, then rebooted and setup, then rebooted into download mode and flashed auto root thru Odin.
Upon reboot I got an error selecting SuperSU, but once I updated it thru the Play Store its been fine.
Using ES Explorer I removed the items I don't need and removed all of the Knox stuff.
There are a few of us this worked for so I don't know what went wrong for you.
If you don't succeed then try again, and again, and again....Good luck.
Do I have to update to kitkat bootloader?
gcrutchr said:
Do I have to update to kitkat bootloader?
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Not needed. The bootloader is same for 4.3 and 4.4
Itchiee said:
Not sure... I installed KK on the tablet via Odin, then rebooted and setup, then rebooted into download mode and flashed auto root thru Odin.
Upon reboot I got an error selecting SuperSU, but once I updated it thru the Play Store its been fine.
Using ES Explorer I removed the items I don't need and removed all of the Knox stuff.
There are a few of us this worked for so I don't know what went wrong for you.
If you don't succeed then try again, and again, and again....Good luck.
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Thx for the response from what i can see you never fully wipe your data before installing 4.4 KK but i did so i believe i lost my root like that. So when i updated the supersu never carried over from 4.3
Srikar_NBK said:
Not needed. The bootloader is same for 4.3 and 4.4
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Thanks.
Itchiee said:
Not sure... I installed KK on the tablet via Odin, then rebooted and setup, then rebooted into download mode and flashed auto root thru Odin.
Upon reboot I got an error selecting SuperSU, but once I updated it thru the Play Store its been fine.
Using ES Explorer I removed the items I don't need and removed all of the Knox stuff.
There are a few of us this worked for so I don't know what went wrong for you.
If you don't succeed then try again, and again, and again....Good luck.
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man you're awesome thx a bunch I saw my mistake, I was using chain fire root except the one I had downloaded from a third party site wasn't exactly for my device. Went to chainfire official site got the autoroot bam im rooted at.
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How do you get hancom office?
-Will KitKat restrict access to my SD card? -->Yes but fixable through an app or editing a file (needs root), there is already a thread about that.
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Sorry, but I cant find thread related to the issue .
What do you mean by `fixable through an app`? I`m not rooted and full stock.
Kit Kat SD Card Issue
clouds5 said:
Hi guys I have some questions about the new Firmware and KitKat in general and you may have answers I'll try to update first post with your answers!
-Will KitKat restrict access to my SD card? -->Yes but fixable through an app or editing a file (needs root), there is already a thread about that.
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Is this the app you are referring to? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2684188
Still not out in Germany
I intend on rooting this tablet. Am I better off rooting 4.3 and then flashing KK update? Or is it possible to update to KK and then root?
supremekizzle said:
I intend on rooting this tablet. Am I better off rooting 4.3 and then flashing KK update? Or is it possible to update to KK and then root?
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Both ways work equally well I was already rooted with 4.3 but either way has been confirmed working so it doesn't matter.
clouds5 said:
Both ways work equally well I was already rooted with 4.3 but either way has been confirmed working so it doesn't matter.
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Thank you. So any guide I find on rooting 4.3 should be the same procedure as 4.4?
supremekizzle said:
Thank you. So any guide I find on rooting 4.3 should be the same procedure as 4.4?
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Yes. Refer to this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2490805
I have searched the forums for my device, and other people's posts trying to find a way to root my device. Towelroot did not work for me. I read that i could install Philz touch recovery and root with that, but i cannot find the version of that for my phone. If somebody could point me in the direction of a method to root my phone, i would very much appreciate it
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I have searched the forums for my device, and other people's posts trying to find a way to root my device. Towelroot did not work for me. I read that i could install Philz touch recovery and root with that, but i cannot find the version of that for my phone. If somebody could point me in the direction of a method to root my phone, i would very much appreciate it
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You could download GooManager (or Flashify) off the Play Store, install custom recovery (TWRP) and root. It will install the one for your phone automatically.
You need root to use GooManager.
Im curious, what happened with Towelroot? I cant see any reason it wouldnt work. Can you tell me the steps you used?
DocHoliday77 said:
You need root to use GooManager.
Im curious, what happened with Towelroot? I cant see any reason it wouldnt work. Can you tell me the steps you used?
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I downloaded the towelroot apk, installed it and clicked "make it rain" and the app said i should have root. I downloaded root checker and it says i do not have root access.
After running Towelroot You have to install SuperSU from the Play Store, then open the app and let it update the binary and disable Knox.
If SuperSU hangs, reboot and it'll work on the second try.
DocHoliday77 said:
After running Towelroot You have to install SuperSU from the Play Store, then open the app and let it update the binary and disable Knox.
If SuperSU hangs, reboot and it'll work on the second try.
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I had tried CF-Auto-Root before towelroot, and it seems to have either partially installed SuperSU, or SuperSU just doesn't like my phone. It shows up in my app list as "eu.chainfire.supersu.MainActi" and force closes when i try to open it. I cannot uninstall it. (i should have mentioned this in my OP maybe)
Oh ok. That makes more sense to me for why Towelroot didn't work then. Probably the easiest fix would be to reflash the firmware with Odin, then try Towelroot first. Since you dont have root now, its going to make fixing the problem any other way near impossible.......actually, now that I said that, you could flash twrp recovery, then use its file manager to manually delete any traces of the failed root.
Still, I think the firmware flash is an easier and safer option. But its up to you how you want to proceed.
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Oh ok. That makes more sense to me for why Towelroot didn't work then. Probably the easiest fix would be to reflash the firmware with Odin, then try Towelroot first. Since you dont have root now, its going to make fixing the problem any other way near impossible.......actually, now that I said that, you could flash twrp recovery, then use its file manager to manually delete any traces of the failed root.
Still, I think the firmware flash is an easier and safer option. But its up to you how you want to proceed.
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I successfully flashed TWRP, exactly what files should i delete?
Check the cf autoroot thread to be sure, but probably the su binary, install-recovery.sh, daemonsu, etc.
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Check the cf autoroot thread to be sure, but probably the su binary, install-recovery.sh, daemonsu, etc.
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The recovery file manager does not see a lot of the files on my phone. It does see the SuperSU folder, but even if i delete or rename it, it just fixes itself upon reboot. I'm thinking of flashing the 4.4.2 firmware through odin, is a factory reset absolutely necessary to do that?
I flashed the firmware, ran towelroot, installed SuperSU, installed the binary, disabled Knox, and i am now running a rooted device!
Thank you very much DocHoliday77 for all of your help, i greatly appreciate it.
Which firmware did you reflash? Stock 4.4.2??
I cannot find towelroot on the app store. Are there any suggestions on what to do without towelroot
So I recently updated to the I747MVLUFNF2 update in Kies from the I747MVLUFNE6 Update and I can't seem to root it using towelroot (I keep getting a phone unsupported message). Is there another method to root the phone without tripping KNOX?
Not without tripping the Warranty Bit, no. But most of the older methods of rooting will still work.
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Not without tripping the Warranty Bit, no. But most of the older methods of rooting will still work.
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I understand once I root it with CF Auto Root then the warranty bit is tripped, but does this prevent me from using my phone with kies to update or backup? Or what exactly happens?
It just means you cannot use Knox for secured storage. The vast majority of us hate knox anyway so you might actually call this a win!
Of course it also means they can refuse warranty services, but most never need this, and many have reported their warranty being honored regardless.
Otherwise, it has no other effect on how you use your device, flash roms, root, etc.
I have the same issue.
I don't care about knox... but rooting it with the other ways that I know installs the super user app properly but then the SU app keeps crashing... I was assuming it was because of knox but now I'm not sure anymore, tried to reset it and to reflash the rom twice and every time it did the same thing...
Do you have any ideas why that might be happening?
I really would need a solution as I hate unrooted 4.4.2... :S
Thank you!
After rooting, you should be able to open SuperSU and it'll update its binary if needed and will disable knox.
Did you do that part?
I did try to update SU... The result was the same... the SU app would crash when I tried to launch it, before it even gives you the screen to disable knox... Trying to download the slightly older I747MVLUFNE6 which hopefully will root better...
You cant downgrade firmware. You could flash a rom, but i dont think that's what you were getting at.
How did you try to root? Have you tried using the oldest method we've got? Seems to never fail when others do!
Flash custom recovery with Odin.
From recovery flash the SuperSU update zip. You can find it by going to chainfires thread. (Its also in my sig bit I haven't added the very latest version yet)
Yeah, I realized my stupidity after posting the last message... I was thinking of flashing the older rom in... but that would have crapped out...
Finally got it to work...
Thought I had tried it before... but now I kind of doubt myself >.>
Reflashed the same version of the rom ... Found a really old version of auto-root, flashed it in... then I could update SuperSU and it disabled Knox...
Should have tried a bit harder before posting... sorry about that...
Thank you very much for your help.
Bob Terwilliger said:
Yeah, I realized my stupidity after posting the last message... I was thinking of flashing the older rom in... but that would have crapped out...
Finally got it to work...
Thought I had tried it before... but now I kind of doubt myself >.>
Reflashed the same version of the rom ... Found a really old version of auto-root, flashed it in... then I could update SuperSU and it disabled Knox...
Should have tried a bit harder before posting... sorry about that...
Thank you very much for your help.
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Hi Bob
please witch version of auto-root have you use ?
The one I used was hard to find. Most people only post a link to Chainfire's website when making a rooting tutorial. This was a problem because Chainfire updated his official auto-root release with the latest SuperSU apk, making it impossible to update...
http : // androidxda . com / root - samsung - galaxy - s 3 - sgh-i747m
(can't post links yet, apparently...remove all spaces from previous line after copying it to address bar)
The guy from the above website decided to go the longer way of uploading an auto-root that he re-zipped himself. Not sure why he did that but it was perfect for what I needed.
Just download and unzip the auto-root that he provided and you'll be able to root your 4.4.2 SGH-I747M.
Bob Terwilliger said:
The one I used was hard to find. Most people only post a link to Chainfire's website when making a rooting tutorial. This was a problem because Chainfire updated his official auto-root release with the latest SuperSU apk, making it impossible to update...
http : // androidxda . com / root - samsung - galaxy - s 3 - sgh-i747m
(can't post links yet, apparently...remove all spaces from previous line after copying it to address bar)
The guy from the above website decided to go the longer way of uploading an auto-root that he re-zipped himself. Not sure why he did that but it was perfect for what I needed.
Just download and unzip the auto-root that he provided and you'll be able to root your 4.4.2 SGH-I747M.
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Using the zip you provided, which version of SU did you use?
The auto-root tar in the zip the guy provided on his site is dated 2014-2-27 11:13.
Bob Terwilliger said:
The auto-root tar in the zip the guy provided on his site is dated 2014-2-27 11:13.
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i have tried this one but it doesn't solve my problem, SuperSU crashed when it start, i don't understand what is the cause :crying:
It'll work... SuperSU crashing is normal... you need to go to the play store and update SuperSU... after that you'll be able to run the app and disable Knox.
Bob Terwilliger said:
It'll work... SuperSU crashing is normal... you need to go to the play store and update SuperSU... after that you'll be able to run the app and disable Knox.
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thanks bob, i discover that the problem was about the I747MVLUFNF2 rom, so I changed it by I747MVLUFNE6 and all ok now
thank you again :good:
I did the opposite. I flashed the latest version of CF-Auto-Root from http://autoroot.chainfire.eu/. SuperSU was crashing, so I re-flashed the latest version of SuperSU (v2.01) from http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu and it worked fine after that. This was on the I747MVLUFNF2 ROM.
DocHoliday77 said:
Not without tripping the Warranty Bit, no. But most of the older methods of rooting will still work.
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I've also updated to the latest firmware for gs3-1747m and tried to root using these new rooting tools that are on the device itself. Can you elaborate on an older version that would work on the device? My data pins on the mico-usb port were damaged, so I cannot transfer any data with a PC. Can't use Odin or other devices that require USB debugging
Thanks!
If Towelroot doesn't work, there is no other way to root without using Odin and a PC.
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aryan.yazdani said:
I've also updated to the latest firmware for gs3-1747m and tried to root using these new rooting tools that are on the device itself. Can you elaborate on an older version that would work on the device? My data pins on the mico-usb port were damaged, so I cannot transfer any data with a PC. Can't use Odin or other devices that require USB debugging
Thanks!
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Actually... PM me, I'll tell you how I did it.
hey guys so im a noob at all of this so noob it down for me please
the other day i tried rooting my phone and i thought i succeeded at doing so since the SuperSU (blue hashtag) app appeared in my apps. knox's also is disabling supersu from running. when i open up knox it reads "your device is not authorized to enter samsung knox mode" im guessing thats because of it being rooted? so when i downloaded root checker to see if my phone is rooted and it comes out that my phone is not rooted.
so is my phone rooted and knox is keeping su from running or did i not root properly?
any suggestions
The Knox counter was probably tripped previously, that's why it gave you that message. What method did you use for root, what android version, and what device do you have?
serio22 said:
The Knox counter was probably tripped previously, that's why it gave you that message. What method did you use for root, what android version, and what device do you have?
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its 4.3 jellybean
i think the root was called clockwork? and i have the tmobile t-999
dean03TJ said:
its 4.3 jellybean
i think the root was called clockwork? and i have the tmobile t-999
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That's a recovery, which tripped Knox when you flashed it. And I assume you flashed SuperSU after? Make sure it is the latest
serio22 said:
That's a recovery, which tripped Knox when you flashed it. And I assume you flashed SuperSU after? Make sure it is the latest
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ummm no i didnt. i thought it was just a root and then add cyanogen. haha
have a good site?
towelroot and root66 have good reps for rooting. might want to check those.
err on the side of kindness
dean03TJ said:
ummm no i didnt. i thought it was just a root and then add cyanogen. haha
have a good site?
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XDA has all the info you need.. Cyanogen is prerooted so it shouldn't have any problems, but I did notice you said you had SuperSU, which is not the root app it uses. It also sounds like SuperSU and the cm you flashed is outdated, that blue hash was dropped long ago.. Did you try to update it like I suggested? If you are on cm10 flash cm11 instead
I have a new in the box S6 with 5.02. Is there any way to root at 5.02 and have root survive the OTA factory update to 5.1.1? I've searched the forum and haven't seen any methods to do this.
Thanks,
WX
wxfreak said:
I have a new in the box S6 with 5.02. Is there any way to root at 5.02 and have root survive the OTA factory update to 5.1.1? I've searched the forum and haven't seen any methods to do this.
Thanks,
WX
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5.1.1 is rootable now however i would hold out till TWRP is made for 5.1.1 if not rooting is currently pointless since you wont have a recovery
rhyme187 said:
5.1.1 is rootable now however i would hold out till TWRP is made for 5.1.1 if not rooting is currently pointless since you wont have a recovery
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FYI, twrp 2.8.7. 1 was working for me on 5.1.1 before I Odin'd back to stock
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I think if we could find flashables for the OTA we might be able to use flashify with everroot
rooted 5.0.2 to 5.1.1 update problems
I would like to put the romified rom on my device and I cannot seem to update to 5.1.1 OTA isn't working. Any ideas? Last time I used this forum to root a device I was on the G1 so it's been a long time, these new devices are rather tricky for me
I am getting an error saying that my system has been modified so I cannot get any OTA updates
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I would like to put the romified rom on my device and I cannot seem to update to 5.1.1 OTA isn't working. Any ideas? Last time I used this forum to root a device I was on the G1 so it's been a long time, these new devices are rather tricky for me
I am getting an error saying that my system has been modified so I cannot get any OTA updates
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Use ODIN and the OH1 TAR file from SAMMOBILE. That will bring you up to the most recent stock and baseband. Then Unikernel and TWRP and flash the ROM.
Steps and links to all that you need can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-galaxy-s6/general/how-to-to-100-stock-root-t3075448
koop1955 said:
Use ODIN and the OH1 TAR file from SAMMOBILE. That will bring you up to the most recent stock and baseband. Then Unikernel and TWRP and flash the ROM.
Steps and links to all that you need can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-galaxy-s6/general/how-to-to-100-stock-root-t3075448
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Is this something i can do with a mac or do i need a windows?
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Is this something i can do with a mac or do i need a windows?
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Never done it with a mac, but here are instructions: http://techbeasts.com/2015/04/13/download-odin-jdoin3-mac/
Good luck.
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Never done it with a mac, but here are instructions:
Good luck.
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Thank you, y'all are very helpful, i remember now why i enjoy this forum so much, last question i seem to be getting mixed answers from is whether or not 5.1.1 has a root that doesn't trip knox on our phones
captainrobb609 said:
Thank you, y'all are very helpful, i remember now why i enjoy this forum so much, last question i seem to be getting mixed answers from is whether or not 5.1.1 has a root that doesn't trip knox on our phones
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No. It does not. Rooting 5.11 WILL trip Knox.