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I received the notification to update this morning to 4.4, however the update started to apply, it kicked it out with a suspected root error. Before applying the update, I had already uninstalled Xposed and unrooted my phone, so I am not sure what set off the root checker. I was wondering what my options were at this point. I know I can flash back to stock, but I would like to avoid this if at all possible. Are there any alternatives, or will I be forced to flash back to stock?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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I received the notification to update this morning to 4.4, however the update started to apply, it kicked it out with a suspected root error. Before applying the update, I had already uninstalled Xposed and unrooted my phone, so I am not sure what set off the root checker. I was wondering what my options were at this point. I know I can flash back to stock, but I would like to avoid this if at all possible. Are there any alternatives, or will I be forced to flash back to stock?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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I'm having exactly the same issue. I used the one click root method and have unrooted using full unroot in SuperSu.
But it appears full unroot per SuperSu is not enough? I tried root checker in Play Store and it says I am not rooted.
When I run the install it takes a long time to download and gave 0x13e error after the reboot while upgrading.
I also tried the LG PC Suite but it says my phone has the most current version, that is weird...
This OTA seems to be very picky as I was able to update in January 2014 fully rooted....
I wonder if I need to flash the IOT and go through the hassle of reinstalling all apps and config....that's a lot of hassle...
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I'm having exactly the same issue. I used the one click root method and have unrooted using full unroot in SuperSu.
But it appears full unroot per SuperSu is not enough? I tried root checker in Play Store and it says I am not rooted.
When I run the install it takes a long time to download and gave 0x13e error after the reboot while upgrading.
I also tried the LG PC Suite but it says my phone has the most current version, that is weird...
This OTA seems to be very picky as I was able to update in January 2014 fully rooted....
I wonder if I need to flash the IOT and go through the hassle of reinstalling all apps and config....that's a lot of hassle...
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It is very strange but if I try update recovery it says my battery does not have enough charge. (but battery is at 100%).
I even bought a new battery. I did disable carrier iq spying service before I unroot.
Do I have to enable carrier iq spy in order to upgrade?
View92612 said:
It is very strange but if I try update recovery it says my battery does not have enough charge. (but battery is at 100%).
I even bought a new battery. I did disable carrier iq spying service before I unroot.
Do I have to enable carrier iq spy in order to upgrade?
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Your phone needs to be 100% stock in order for OTA updates to work. This means:
no custom recovery (CWM, TWRP, etc)
all bloatware must be present
you can't be rooted
all system services must be like stock (this includes carrier IQ, so yes, it needs to be reenabled).
If you can't get the OTA to update after fixing everything, try flashing this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760895
This IS the ATT stock ROM, but mildly debloated. The creator only debloated things that could be installed via the Play Store though (like Google Music, Newstand, Books, etc), so there isn't anything like the remote app or something missing.
I flashed this version because I'm too lazy to try and return my phone to pure stock just to get the OTA and then have to reflash root and a custom recovery. Too much work for me.
EDIT: I'm not too sure what's going on with your recovery... I hope someone else can answer that for you.
The easiest thing to do is just flash the 4.4.2 Rom found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760895
This route saves allot of time having to flash back to pure stock, wait for your phone to receive the update again, and your phone taking forever to download said update.
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If you can't get the OTA to update after fixing everything, try flashing this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760895
This IS the ATT stock ROM, but mildly debloated. The creator only debloated things that could be installed via the Play Store though (like Google Music, Newstand, Books, etc), so there isn't anything like the remote app or something missing.
I flashed this version because I'm too lazy to try and return my phone to pure stock just to get the OTA and then have to reflash root and a custom recovery. Too much work for me.
EDIT: I'm not too sure what's going on with your recovery... I hope someone else can answer that for you.
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Thanks a lot. This is my wife's phone so she'd rather not to update if a data wipe is required. She's actually quite happy with 4.1.
Anything extra would only be a "good to have". I think I'll keep it on 4.1 until she switches to another phone.
I did download the slightly customized stock rom so that it could be updated in the future.
In fact, I still have stock recovery and the only reason I rooted was to disable carrier iq because it was doing funny things with the GPS, very annoying.
There is no other way to disable carrier iq without rooting...unfortunately...
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Thanks a lot. This is my wife's phone so she'd rather not to update if a data wipe is required. She's actually quite happy with 4.1.
Anything extra would only be a "good to have". I think I'll keep it on 4.1 until she switches to another phone.
I did download the slightly customized stock rom so that it could be updated in the future.
In fact, I still have stock recovery and the only reason I rooted was to disable carrier iq because it was doing funny things with the GPS, very annoying.
There is no other way to disable carrier iq without rooting...unfortunately...
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If you flash that ROM over her current stock ROM, it should act just like an OTA update and replace the JB OS with the KK OS. It should also replace JB version Google apps with KK ones too.
If you decide to do this, you will need to do 3 things:
1) Make a backup just in case, but then copy the backup to your PC
2) Backup the internal SD to a PC and then format the internal storage. (see *2 below as to why)
3) After the flash, you will need to install the apk from the following thread and use it to install a Kitkat compatible CWM. If you don't while in recovery at any time, you may get stuck in what's called the Recovery Bootloop. Basically, every time you try to reboot the phone into the system (whether from a powered off state or from recovery), you will always go back to recovery.
The only bad thing about this recovery is that it can't read external SD cards, so anything you want to flash/backup will need to be stored on internal storage.
*2) Kitkat uses a different directory system for internal storage. If you were to not wipe the internal SD and managed to get the OTA working, it would wipe the drive for you automatically (which means all your data would be gone!).
However, with this flashable stock ROM, what will happen instead, is that all your data will remain, but will be hidden from view/access. If you have root, you can get it and move it, but it's a pain. Otherwise, your files are hidden from you, yet the system reads X amount of your internal storage as being occupied by "Miscellaneous" files, yet shows that nothing is there.
So just backup the files, then format the internal storage (which will leave her apps alone) before updating. Then flash that ROM and then copy the files back over.
All this is up to you and your wife as to whether or not you deem it to be worth the effort.
Is anyone else getting prompted for a system update? I'm rooted so I don't want to install. Update is 154.6 MB.
UPDATE: DO NOT install the update if you don't have stock recovery. You will end up in a boot loop.
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Lol I just created a thread myself! I am rooted and custom rom so I am totally waiting.
i just got it too, it said android update but I'm not entirely sure what it's for
InsaneJester17 said:
Is anyone else getting prompted for a system update? I'm rooted so I don't want to install. Update is 154.6 MB.
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I also did, I am on sky rom and it probably won't work, but I don't want to try to install it.
Well its quite a small update at 154 mb
Installed update
Hey guys I just installed the update and it broke my root :cyclops:
Were you able to root again?
Apparently it's D85110m update. So it's updating from D85110c to m. The person that I saw that updated hadn't rooted so no clue on the rooting thing.
Count me in the group with system update notification. I got rid of it by installing xposed module GravityBox, going under status bar settings - ongoing notification blocker - Google Play services (picture looks like that of update) - reboot.
I don't know what other notifications this may block, but for now, it gets rid of that. Also of note, I would NOT take the OTA. Usually it breaks root and/or bootloops you.
HELP
So in my half awake brilliance, I installed the update. My phone is now boot cycling to the TWRP recovery. Any ideas?
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Were you able to root again?
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I haven't tried to re-root yet. I was rooted with stump root earlier. Stump root doesn't work again because it thinks that my phone is already rooted. I'm going to do some light battery tests before trying to root again, this time with purple drake.
Maybe i might restore the slimkat alpha and hide there until this gets sorted out
I decided not to update to fear my bootloader/root so I tried to extract this with file manager and kept crashing. I can only post the name of the file but above users are correct contains 10m from 10c hopefully devs can find out exactly what's in the update. b1847cae892006ffa11c6822a408fe8528142a54.D85110c_00-D85110m_00_update.zip
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So in my half awake brilliance, I installed the update. My phone is now boot cycling to the TWRP recovery. Any ideas?
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I would try and follow this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2818667
Wonder if i could do a restore and keep wifi off so it won't download
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I would try and follow this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2818667
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Will this reset the phone? Will I lose all data?
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Will this reset the phone? Will I lose all data?
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I believe so yes. But if you are truly bootlooping, I don't believe you have many (if any) other choices than wiping clean and starting fresh.
I'm all stock so I upgraded.
It is in fact D85110m
I've only had it up and running for a few minutes and I already noticed two things.
- There is a slider feature added to the lock screen to instantly open the camera.
- I didn't think the phone was sluggish or laggy out of the box but I immediately could tell it runs smoother now with transitions between screens/apps. e.g. There used to be a bit of lag when opening the Recent Apps. Not anymore.
We'll see how it goes.
The IR blaster works better for me now. I guess the update made it more powerful somehow.
if you have twrp installed or have modified /system you should not take this OTA. if on twrp things will get weird(as evidenced above..) and if removing/modding any default files in /system the zip will most likely fail.. as it checks for all original files first before the OTA update gets patched in.
as for the twrp issue.. I can only assume that it's due to the update/phone expecting stock recovery... and not getting it. there are flags set in the phone that tell the phone what mode to boot into... since you dont have stock recovery the phone is confused. check out this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2451696
the fota and misc partitions are tied to this... try to zero out fota first. if that alone doesnt let you out of twrp... you may need to wipe misc. be sure to backup any partition to computer(dont just save on phone sdcard.. never know when it could get wiped..) before erasing anything.
as for this update(10m)... anyone taking it should be careful that the bootloader/downgrades have not been locked/blocked. I'll be waiting for others to take that risk first before even considering taking the ota.
*update* can confirm update is safe.. bootloader is not locked.. still rootable.
as for root... I doubt purple drake is blocked.. but is possible. I'm very sure Stump is still available as an option(tho app may need update).
if you got the update and dont want to take it.. and want the notification gone you should be able to use a file explorer to delete the update zip from the the /cache directory... as well as rename the LGFOTA.apk file in /system to LGFOTA.apk.bak.
I can also confirm that disabling OTA updates in the hidden menu works. the moment I set it back to "on" (i set mine to off day 1) and rebooted the update came in.
d851 hidden menu > wlan test > ota setting > off > reboot (if you have been notified of an available update do NOT reboot until you have deleted the ota zip first)
I have an ATT S3 with 4.1.2 currently. It is rooted and has CWM recovery but still running stock OS.
I keep getting notifications of an OS OTA update to be installed, but it always fails. Can I get that to install by simply deleting the superuser app and selecting update option? Does the custom recovery also interfere?
Maybe the best way to ask is...
what would be the process I should use to get the update to install and get back to rooted/CWM?
I am no longer a "power user" and could easily live with the 4.1.2 OS, but the frequent 'demands' from ATT to install the update are bothersome.
Ota updates will only work with no root and a custom recovery.
Since you are on 4.1.2, you could flash stock 4.1.1, sim unlock, and run ota updates to 4.4.2. It's no the fastest but I feel it is the safest route.
movrshakr said:
I keep getting notifications of an OS OTA update to be installed, but it always fails. Can I get that to install by simply deleting the superuser app and selecting update option? Does the custom recovery also interfere?
Maybe the best way to ask is...
what would be the process I should use to get the update to install and get back to rooted/CWM?
I am no longer a "power user" and could easily live with the 4.1.2 OS, but the frequent 'demands' from ATT to install the update are bothersome.
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audit13 said:
Ota updates will only work with no root and a custom recovery.
Since you are on 4.1.2, you could flash stock 4.1.1, sim unlock, and run ota updates to 4.4.2. It's no the fastest but I feel it is the safest route.
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OTA is typically the safest way to update (as with any update, official or otherwise, you proceed at your own risk and no one here is responsible should anything negative happen to your phone and its software). If you do not want to take the time to do so, or feel the process is too tedious, you should be able to freeze the AT&T software update with an app like Titanium Backup. This should stop the nagging to install an OTA update. I have utilized this method before and it has worked quite well for me in the past.
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...If you do not want to take the time to do so, or feel the process is too tedious, you should be able to freeze the AT&T software update with an app like Titanium Backup. This should stop the nagging to install an OTA update. I have utilized this method before and it has worked quite well for me in the past.
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I have TitaniumBackup. What is the app that needs to be frozen to stop the update nags?
I am kind of surprised that uninstalling the superuser app is not enough to allow the update.
"Ota updates will only work with no root and a custom recovery."
"Ota updates will only work with ... a custom recovery."
Really? Did you mean,
Ota updates will only work with no root and NO custom recovery?
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I have TitaniumBackup. What is the app that needs to be frozen to stop the update nags?
I am kind of surprised that uninstalling the superuser app is not enough to allow the update.
"Ota updates will only work with no root and a custom recovery."
"Ota updates will only work with ... a custom recovery."
Really? Did you mean,
Ota updates will only work with no root and NO custom recovery?
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No root and no custom recovery is required for OTA updates.
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I have TitaniumBackup. What is the app that needs to be frozen to stop the update nags?
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If I remember correctly it is called "software update" but it will definitely consist of those words. I know it can be done because I did it when I was on rooted stock 4.1.1 and 4.1.2. Once I froze it, I never got notified.
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aybarrap1 said:
If I remember correctly it is called "software update" but it will definitely consist of those words. I know it can be done because I did it when I was on rooted stock 4.1.1 and 4.1.2. Once I froze it, I never got notified.
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Gosh, I have looked repeatedly through the (long) list of installed things in TitaniumBackup "Overview of app storage use..." list (the screen from which you freeze things...
and I simply cannot find the OTA update app. Indeed I did not see anything with the word 'update' in it.
Hoping someone can help me specifically identify the app that needs to be frozen in an S1 to stop the auto updates.
They are driving me crazy. Even though they fail, they often happen at night and leave the phone screen ON, on a screen waiting for an input, and the battery is hot. Happened once when not plugged in and drained to autoshutoff, so I woke to a dead battery.
movrshakr said:
Gosh, I have looked repeatedly through the (long) list of installed things in TitaniumBackup "Overview of app storage use..." list (the screen from which you freeze things...
and I simply cannot find the OTA update app. Indeed I did not see anything with the word 'update' in it.
Hoping someone can help me specifically identify the app that needs to be frozen in an S1 to stop the auto updates.
They are driving me crazy. Even though they fail, they often happen at night and leave the phone screen ON, on a screen waiting for an input, and the battery is hot. Happened once when not plugged in and drained to autoshutoff, so I woke to a dead battery.
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It is there, I froze mine with Titanium Backup for about 18 months. It could be that the name is more like ATTUpdater. I also don't recall exactly because I have since installed a custom rom.
dawgdoc said:
It is there, I froze mine with Titanium Backup for about 18 months. It could be that the name is more like ATTUpdater. I also don't recall exactly because I have since installed a custom rom.
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You're right! Found it.
It was AT&T Software Update. I had missed it before because, in portrait mode, the 'pdate' part of the name was not visible, and it just had not registered as I looked through them. Thanks heaps.
movrshakr said:
You're right! Found it.
It was AT&T Software Update. I had missed it before because, in portrait mode, the 'pdate' part of the name was not visible, and it just had not registered as I looked through them. Thanks heaps.
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Glad to have been of service.
see #5 for problem
Hi guys,
so after quite some time with custom Roms I decided to go stock again as somehow I don't need root at all. Well, that's not true. I miss AdAway.
As there is no possibility to root the stock rom, is there ANY AdBlocker that works on Lollipop? AdBlock Plus doesn't (yet).
Why did you say there is no possibility to root the stock rom ?
I'm running Stock ROM, rooted and AdAway running fine.
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Why did you say there is no possibility to root the stock rom ?
I'm running Stock ROM, rooted and AdAway running fine.
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How do you root the stock rom? I couldn't find out how.
Can I root without losing my data?
fBx said:
How do you root the stock rom? I couldn't find out how.
Can I root without losing my data?
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Flash twrp recovery and root through the recovery. It'll ask you when you reboot the system if you want to root it
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Huh. Didn't know it was THAT straightforward and I've been flashing my phones for years.
Well. I flashed TWRP and SuperSU 2.46, succeeded. But Adaway and Adfree don't work correctly. They block the ads but only until you reboot, then it's reverted, kinda like with a tethered jailbreak on iPhones.
What am I doing wrong here? Also the block is not like on KitKat - there it was really blocked, really removed, here only the images of the ads are removed but you still see the space they were supposed to be.
I also used a system app removal tool that also didn't work although it shows success. It just removes the installed data like updates.
When I delete apps manually via ES Explorer, they just reappear at the next reboot.
Root Checker says root is fine but it isn't supposed to behave like that and undo my changes.
What's wrong? Do I need another kernel maybe? As I said I went back to stock completely and updatet through to L.
I believe I got whats causing the issue.
After deleting a system app and rebooting, I got a message saying that the phone was restored from an "unnormal behaviour". Does Lollipop bring some kind of system restore point that just automatically restores itself when "weird" things like host file alteration happens? If yes, how do I get rid of that?
This phone has always had system files protected since KitKat. You need a kernel mod to delete system apps.
Don't know why the ad blockers aren't working. Adaway is working fine for me on stock US Dev Edition rooted. You said you are using Adaway and AdFree? Are you actually using both at the same time? maybe they are interfering with each other?
No I meant it happens with both. Only use adaway now. They work but after a reboot the adblock is gone and I need to apply it again. In fact, AdAway says it's deactivated and AdFree says it's already up to date but ads show anyway and I need to install the fix again to get rid of them.
Can you maybe point me to a kernel mod? Would want to get rid of some bloatware.
Maybe I should try installing xposed and see if it's gone after a reboot.
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Can you maybe point me to a kernel mod? Would want to get rid of some bloatware.
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The thread is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701816
But unfortunately, flar2 hasn't had the time to update for LP. A user posted the kernel module in Post #210, but a subsequent user said it doesn't work. Custom ROMs have write protection disabled, as does Dev Edition stock ROM.
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No I meant it happens with both. Only use adaway now. They work but after a reboot the adblock is gone and I need to apply it again. In fact, AdAway says it's deactivated and AdFree says it's already up to date but ads show anyway and I need to install the fix again to get rid of them.
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Odd, as mentioned, I've used AdAway for quite some time now, and don't have these issues.
Yes, very odd indeed. Well, if I don't get it sorted out somehow I might as well switch to Viper or some other close to stock custom Rom again, or make it Dev like you.
Things are getting worse, in 1 of 2 cases AdAway spits an error at me when trying to apply the fixes and the phone just reboots and undos everything. It's like some protection from rooting or changing anything although I am rooted. I don't understand it. I can't possibly be the only one having problems with root on Stock Lollipop
This is really annoying me. I think I'm better of just installing a custom rom and setting the phone up again, will cost me an hour but at least I'm done with the bugs.
Yup, decided to jump the gun, wipe and install ViperOne and now everything works as I wanted it to. AdAway stays active and working.
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Yup, decided to jump the gun, wipe and install ViperOne and now everything works as I wanted it to. AdAway stays active and working.
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Interesting. I wonder if Adaway is dependent on the system write protection being disabled. I wouldn't normally suspect that, and only thinking of it since you mentioned the system write protection issue as well.
On the other hand, its the only difference I can think of between my phone and yours that would matter. I am on stock rooted Dev Edition, which apparently does not have the system write protection enabled by default.
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Interesting. I wonder if Adaway is dependent on the system write protection being disabled. I wouldn't normally suspect that, and only thinking of it since you mentioned the system write protection issue as well.
On the other hand, its the only difference I can think of between my phone and yours that would matter. I am on stock rooted Dev Edition, which apparently does not have the system write protection enabled by default.
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I also assume that's the reason. I've never been on a stock rom since I don't know when, but figured that actually I only wanted AdAway which would normally not require a custom rom per se... but as it didn't really work in the end (and also other root-requiring stuff), I went back to custom again. Well, it's not that it's that difficult to wipe the phone occasionally and set up a clean custom rom to get it back to perfect performance. Gonna go with it.
I rooted, S-offed, and flashed my phone with a 4.3 rom (Stock+). Everything is great, but the problem is that my phone keeps re downloading OTA updates and then telling me I can't update since system is modified. I selected the option to download only on WiFi in settings, but it continues to download using my data. It's used over a gig of data so far, and I'm nearing my limit, so I'm forced to keep mobile data off all the time. How can I disable these updates?
I've tried freezing the HTC DM process, but i guess it's not the right one. I can't find any forum posts which tell what I should freeze. I will flash another rom eventually, but I don't really have time to backup all my data and apps at the moment. Just want to be able to use data with out worrying about it getting sucked up.
Edit: On 4.4.2, not 4.3
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I rooted, S-offed, and flashed my phone with a 4.3 rom (Stock+). Everything is great, but the problem is that my phone keeps re downloading OTA updates and then telling me I can't update since system is modified. I selected the option to download only on WiFi in settings, but it continues to download using my data. It's used over a gig of data so far, and I'm nearing my limit, so I'm forced to keep mobile data off all the time. How can I disable these updates?
I've tried freezing the HTC DM process, but i guess it's not the right one. I can't find any forum posts which tell what I should freeze. I will flash another rom eventually, but I don't really have time to backup all my data and apps at the moment. Just wan to be able to use data with out worrying about it getting sucked up.
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All you have to do is flash stock recovery long enough for the update to complete
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All you have to do is flash stock recovery long enough for the update to complete
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Don't want to update the phone though. Wouldn't that just update it to a new stock firmware and remove root?
I should also mention this is a T-Mobile rom as I'm using the phone unlocked on it, if that makes any difference.
I'm still having this issue, does anybody have a solution?
Why don't you want to update?
I can't guarantee this will work on 4.3 but try this.
Download DisableService from Google play
Under system tab find Google framework services or something like that
Disable system update service
If you can't find it search for system update service with the included search
This might get re-enabled when you reboot your phone though so just uncheck it if it comes back when you reboot
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I found the service, but the odd thing is that it was already unchecked. I reselected it then unchecked it again, hopefully it won't come back. Thanks
If that doesn't work you can try using titanium backup to freeze updater
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