I want to try ART instead of Dalvik. When I follow the instructions to enable it, the last step wont work. I cannot find the option to enable ART. Do I need to change the kernel or something?
mentaluproar said:
I want to try ART instead of Dalvik. When I follow the instructions to enable it, the last step wont work. I cannot find the option to enable ART. Do I need to change the kernel or something?
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Are you rooted running Xposed? Art will not work with Xposed ...
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mentaluproar said:
I want to try ART instead of Dalvik. When I follow the instructions to enable it, the last step wont work. I cannot find the option to enable ART. Do I need to change the kernel or something?
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There is no ART for our device, unless you are using custom rom (AOSP), and we have none...
buhohitr said:
There is no ART for our device, unless you are using custom rom (AOSP), and we have none...
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Actually,you can. It's there but Samsung have 'hidden' it.
mentaluproar said:
I want to try ART instead of Dalvik. When I follow the instructions to enable it, the last step wont work. I cannot find the option to enable ART. Do I need to change the kernel or something?
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Make sure Xposed is uninstalled first like it's been said then follow this :good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2713622
22sl22 said:
Actually,you can. It's there but Samsung have 'hidden' it.
Make sure Xposed is uninstalled first like it's been said then follow this :good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2713622
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It's depend on the devices, some have ART hidden but I don't think our device has ART included.
EDIT: I'm not a fan of ART, since Google has a good reason not implement it yet because it's very unstable. I have tried ART on some of my phones, in theory it should boost performance and I see no performance gain whats so ever and it has a lot of issue. Many apps may not be compatible with ART run time. Highly recommend not to use ART.
buhohitr said:
It's depend on the devices, some have ART hidden but I don't think our device has ART included.
EDIT: I'm not a fan of ART, since Google has a good reason not implement it yet because it's very unstable. I have tried ART on some of my phones, in theory it should boost performance and I see no performance gain whats so ever and it has a lot of issue. Many apps may not be compatible with ART run time. Highly recommend not to use ART.
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Its there if you follow the link I posted. Yes ART is buggy but it depends on the device. I have checked and our device is able to switch for those interested
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the libart files aren't there. Can I add them?
22sl22 said:
Its there if you follow the link I posted. Yes ART is buggy but it depends on the device. I have checked and our device is able to switch for those interested
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What device do you have and you said you checked and your device do have the 2 ART lib.so files - (libart.so, libart-compiler.so located in /system/lib)? We are talking about note 10.1 2014 here. People if you don't see the 2 ART lib files, meaning your device is NOT ART compatible, meaning no hidden ART for your device.
I tried Art on my older tablet from Huawei, with Aokp 4.4.2.
It was catastrophic. The Art cache is about three times bigger than Dalvik, which should not be a major issue on a device with 16GB. Compiling the binaries takes ten times longer. A speed increase during use was not noticeable. Many apps will hang up and slow down the system and draw extra power in the background. More fcs, too, but that is expectable.
The, afaik, newer f2fs file system is in contrary performing flawlessly on my mobile with CM11 4.4.4.
lecorbusier said:
I tried Art on my older tablet from Huawei, with Aokp 4.4.2.
It was catastrophic. The Art cache is about three times bigger than Dalvik, which should not be a major issue on a device with 16GB. Compiling the binaries takes ten times longer. A speed increase during use was not noticeable. Many apps will hang up and slow down the system and draw extra power in the background. More fcs, too, but that is expectable.
The, afaik, newer f2fs file system is in contrary performing flawlessly on my mobile with CM11 4.4.4.
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Yep...a lot of issue with ART, I have tried and never stay on ART for no more than a week. ART is not ready by Google, if we want ART, just wait until Android L release...
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I have Cablevision/Optimum and they claim that you can watch programs and manage your DVR from the Optimum app. But I have repeatedly tried to get it working and it just force closes every time. I've tried on different ROMs, on Wifi, on Mobile. Nothing works.
Anyone ever got it working?
Techngro said:
I have Cablevision/Optimum and they claim that you can watch programs and manage your DVR from the Optimum app. But I have repeatedly tried to get it working and it just force closes every time. I've tried on different ROMs, on Wifi, on Mobile. Nothing works.
Anyone ever got it working?
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Nope, I have same problem bro....
Same problem here. Really frustrating.
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xposed
you must have xposed , its an old bug in xposed that prevents optimum from working. UNinstall xposed and it will fire right up
jmichaels1982 said:
you must have xposed , its an old bug in xposed that prevents optimum from working. UNinstall xposed and it will fire right up
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That's too bad. I'm using a ROM that I think has Xposed as part of the ROM, so it doesn't let me uninstall it. I would really love to get the optimum app working though. Maybe i'll back this ROM up and test it on my stock ROM I have saved.
EDIT: Dude, I've searched google for a long time trying to find a solution, and nothing. But thanks to you, I finally know what the issue is. The only problem now is, I don't really want to choose between Xposed, which I love, and Optimum, which I kinda really need.
another solution
Techngro said:
That's too bad. I'm using a ROM that I think has Xposed as part of the ROM, so it doesn't let me uninstall it. I would really love to get the optimum app working though. Maybe i'll back this ROM up and test it on my stock ROM I have saved.
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just get into the xposed app and choose uninstall xposed from the xposed interface itself. then test and see if that lets optimum work
So it's Xposed causing the problem. I wondered why it works on my Note 10.1 and Nexus 7 but my Note 3 just keeps trying to load it. I can live with that. My Note 10 is much better suited for it anyway.
jmichaels1982 said:
just get into the xposed app and choose uninstall xposed from the xposed interface itself. then test and see if that lets optimum work
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Wow. You're just full of useful information today. I'm adding you to my 'go-to' list for questions.
forgot to mention
Techngro said:
Wow. You're just full of useful information today. I'm adding you to my 'go-to' list for questions.
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Xposed developer posted a fix for optimum, which would start the app, to control your dvr and such, but it didn't fix the live tv steam for me. Go to xposed and make sure you are up to date on the frame work and search IrdetoFix [1.0]. let us know if you can stream tv with it.
Do you guys have the problem with an error and flashing of the screen / stealing focus from other apps every second?
jmichaels1982 said:
Xposed developer posted a fix for optimum, which would start the app, to control your dvr and such, but it didn't fix the live tv steam for me. Go to xposed and make sure you are up to date on the frame work and search IrdetoFix [1.0]. let us know if you can stream tv with it.
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great info... going for that update now. Wish it was auto update! I am on the ATT Note 3 though
yep
ryaske said:
Do you guys have the problem with an error and flashing of the screen / stealing focus from other apps every second?
great info... going for that update now. Wish it was auto update! I am on the ATT Note 3 though
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Yep thats the xposed bug every one experiences on optimum app
jmichaels1982 said:
Xposed developer posted a fix for optimum, which would start the app, to control your dvr and such, but it didn't fix the live tv steam for me. Go to xposed and make sure you are up to date on the frame work and search IrdetoFix [1.0]. let us know if you can stream tv with it.
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Just found this module a few minutes ago and about pooped myself, then I loaded it and found that LiveTV still doesn't work. Did you ever get it working?
Nope
breakerfall said:
Just found this module a few minutes ago and about pooped myself, then I loaded it and found that LiveTV still doesn't work. Did you ever get it working?
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Never, and I didn't want to bother the dev anymore.
Guys...Found another way today to reduce the lag on G3...Now it feels like my phone is stable...Just try it...its working for me...
1. Go to "Developer Options" .....change the default Runtime "Dalvik" to "ART"
The phone should reboot and will take several minutes to optimize apps while its booting. If you find some apps that are not responding when they are opened, just uninstall and re-install them.
Google to know more about Dalvik & ART runtime.
2. Go to "Developer Options" .......Disable(OFF)all animations: Transition animation, Animation duration & Window animation.
vincent33858767 said:
Guys...Found another way today to reduce the lag on G3...Now it feels like my phone is stable...Just try it...its working for me...
1. Go to "Developer Options" .....change the default Runtime "Dalvik" to "ART"
The phone should reboot and will take several minutes to optimize apps while its booting. If you find some apps that are not responding when they are opened, just uninstall and re-install them.
Google to know more about Dalvik & ART runtime.
2. Go to "Developer Options" .......Disable(OFF)all animations: Transition animation, Animation duration & Window animation.
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This has been know to be done on the majority of devices that have kit Kat that can support ART. I don't understand what the deal with everyone trying to increase the speed of their G3. When I got mine it ran fine granted I rooted it but still it ran fine. Games didn't lag on High Quality and launcher didn't redraw or loss of frames. The benchmarks are merely synthetic and do not reflect the devices performance at all.
I recommend ART cause its faster when you start an app and it takes you one step closer to android L. Also the whole getting rid of animations is the closest thing to a placebo but granted it does feel snappier.
The LG G3 is a pretty tight phone and if you don't think its stable or fast then you must live a fast life style.
Cant run ART
When i select ART from developers option. My phone reboots and nothing is changed. It is still Dalvik. I tried multiple times but no success. Help
mazahir87 said:
When i select ART from developers option. My phone reboots and nothing is changed. It is still Dalvik. I tried multiple times but no success. Help
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Do you have xposed installed?
It feels strange to me to buy a 500$ device and disable all animations on it. It looks like android 2.x now or worse.
Better install firmware v10j and see how you declvice flies.
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krazyflipj said:
Do you have xposed installed?
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yes. So what should be my next step
mazahir87 said:
yes. So what should be my next step
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Xposed isn't compatible with ART. if you want to run ART, you will need to uninstall xposed
mazahir87 said:
yes. So what should be my next step
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uninstall xposed, I am on the leaked 10j firmware(with some of my own tweaks) and art is blazing fast batterylife is +-6.5-7h of sot and 20-22 on battery time
So I'm a happy camper
Isn't there a beta xposed framework that works with ART somewhere?
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suljo94 said:
batterylife is +-6.5-7h of sot and 20-22 on battery time
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You must have some special phone.
Skizzy034 said:
Isn't there a beta xposed framework that works with ART somewhere?
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No
jhericurls said:
You must have some special phone.
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nothing special just a leaked build on 10A-10G it was like 5 h and now it is amazing
The phone is smoother in art BUT with cpuspy the phone dont sleep as good then dalvik ...79% instead of 93%
I thought samsung was bad but lg is worse when it comes to lag. I don't think I will be buying anymore lg phones anytime soon.
Crap
Should be an easy fix on the software side because the hardware is the same as competition ..just hope for the best ..
Tested ART. Phone is butter smooth. But back to dalvik since i cant breath without xposed framework on lg g3. Since we dont have custom roms.
There is no butter smooth feeling. I have test all tweaks and roms and i can say no butter feeling on the g3.
Upset
Really upset with LG. with lock bootloaders we cant enjoy custom ROMs. Wasted money on LG.
i unstilled exposed and lg 3 tweak box and when phone restarts, its still under dalvik....
mazahir87 said:
Really upset with LG. with lock bootloaders we cant enjoy custom ROMs. Wasted money on LG.
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You spent the money and now you're wasting time.
riz157 said:
I thought samsung was bad but lg is worse when it comes to lag. I don't think I will be buying anymore lg phones anytime soon.
Crap
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And you too.
Hey,
I am interested on changing the running time on my G3 to ART from Dalvik.
My Questions is:
Anyone did it and the device got better (battery, faster) ?
If I want to change back to Dalvik, there is no problem with this, right ?
QuickL said:
Hey,
I am interested on changing the running time on my G3 to ART from Dalvik.
My Questions is:
Anyone did it and the device got better (battery, faster) ?
If I want to change back to Dalvik, there is no problem with this, right ?
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I'm using ART and I can say that is really better. Apps open faster and my battery performance is better. Try it, you can go back to Dalvik with no problems.
how to do that ?
Irjunqueira said:
I'm using ART and I can say that is really better. Apps open faster and my battery performance is better. Try it, you can go back to Dalvik with no problems.
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Thank you.
After how much of time did you see the change?
There is any problems at ART mode?
QuickL said:
Thank you.
After how much of time did you see the change?
There is any problems at ART mode?
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I don't believe Xposed works, so if you use that you'll have issues,
I'm running art as well and I find it slightly quicker, smoother and better battery. Changing back is as easy as going to art.
QuickL said:
Hey,
I am interested on changing the running time on my G3 to ART from Dalvik.
My Questions is:
Anyone did it and the device got better (battery, faster) ?
If I want to change back to Dalvik, there is no problem with this, right ?
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Maybe check this 8-page thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/help/switching-to-art-improves-performance-t2810770
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Maybe check this 8-page thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/help/switching-to-art-improves-performance-t2810770
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Thanks
I can't even use it in Lollipop as a media button to perform simple play/pause actions even without the Pressy like Apps, it's very unstable, sometimes actions triggered but sometimes not.
I've bought MiKey and works good for the most of the options available in apps like KeyCut
massimoce said:
I've bought MiKey and works good for the most of the options available in apps like KeyCut
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It's so good to know that, I'll continue to find out if it's relative to the system. BTW I use unofficial CM12.1
zyguo said:
It's so good to know that, I'll continue to find out if it's relative to the system. BTW I use unofficial CM12.1
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i use Oxygen 2.2.0
Just curious if anyone has side loaded and is running Android P beta. And what's broken, etc.
I am.
letrain02 said:
Just curious if anyone has side loaded and is running Android P beta. And what's broken, etc.
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yes.
https://developer.android.com/preview/release-notes.html
uicnren said:
yes.
https://developer.android.com/preview/release-notes.html
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Thanks for that. Figured since it was released through the beta program as an OTA there still might be early issues... "Slow and janky" clarified that. Doesn't seem there is anything too horrible that doesn't work.
In your opinion could this still be a daily driver? Of course that always depends on what your doing with your phone.
letrain02 said:
Thanks for that. Figured since it was released through the beta program as an OTA there still might be early issues... "Slow and janky" clarified that. Doesn't seem there is anything too horrible that doesn't work.
In your opinion could this still be a daily driver? Of course that always depends on what your doing with your phone.
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Just flash it and try it, if you don't like it flash back to O
dobbs3x said:
Just flash it and try it, if you don't like it flash back to O
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Wouldn't I lose all my data? And past experience had showed me going backwards after major updates means restore doesn't work right...
letrain02 said:
Wouldn't I lose all my data? And past experience had showed me going backwards after major updates means restore doesn't work right...
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Than don't even worry about the "developer" release and keep on Oreo.
letrain02 said:
Wouldn't I lose all my data? And past experience had showed me going backwards after major updates means restore doesn't work right...
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It's not an official release. You'd be fine going back to O. You'd have to clean flash O more than likely. So back up stuff for sure :good:
Badger50 said:
It's not an official release. You'd be fine going back to O. You'd have to clean flash O more than likely. So back up stuff for sure :good:
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Just remembering my Nexus 6p and beta testing and trying to restore from Google backup wouldn't work..
Has anyone running it noticed the slow and janky-ness?
letrain02 said:
Just remembering my Nexus 6p and beta testing and trying to restore from Google backup wouldn't work..
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I understand bruh. Was just reading on another thread where a user apparently did just that though :good:
Badger50 said:
I understand bruh. Was just reading on another thread where a user apparently did just that though :good:
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Sweet. Thanks for help everyone.
letrain02 said:
Sweet. Thanks for help everyone.
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I'd still hold off for a little while until it's been done a couple times just to make sure though. Although, I can't think of why it can't be done since it's not an official release yet.
letrain02 said:
Thanks for that. Figured since it was released through the beta program as an OTA there still might be early issues... "Slow and janky" clarified that. Doesn't seem there is anything too horrible that doesn't work.
In your opinion could this still be a daily driver? Of course that always depends on what your doing with your phone.
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So far havent found any show-stoppers. A few apps dont work. Google Pay is being weird about adding cards, though I have some added.
If you dont mind running into some bugs, then so far, it seems stable enough, but wont really know til after using it for a day.
uicnren said:
So far havent found any show-stoppers. A few apps dont work. Google Pay is being weird about adding cards, though I have some added.
If you dont mind running into some bugs, then so far, it seems stable enough, but wont really know til after using it for a day.
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you mind saying which apps? might not even apply to me. did you do the OTA or Factory image? i can't seem to find the OTA Android P, only the factory images on their site..i found a link from the XDA article for the OTA.
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you mind saying which apps? might not even apply to me. did you do the OTA or Factory image? i can't seem to find the OTA Android P, only the factory images on their site..i found a link from the XDA article for the OTA.
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so far the MyATT app crashes every open.
FiSwitch app, widget doesnt seem to work at all.
CustomNavigation bar app opens, but cannot be enabled due to Android version issue (also possible because Google seems to have gotten rid of system ui tuner altogether, or there is a new way you have to enable it that I havent found).
SolidExplorer gives a toast about API compatibility issue, but so far seems to work fine. I did have to delete and re-add cloud storage providers.
Off-hand, those are all I can think of, still have more to go through.
I installed factory images, did full wipe. In the past, when I have installed new OS with images, and deleted the -w (wipe user data flag) there were always issues, so I did clean install.
So far apps such as LightFlow, KWGT, CallFlash, things of that nature seem to be fine.
uicnren said:
So far havent found any show-stoppers. A few apps dont work. Google Pay is being weird about adding cards, though I have some added.
If you dont mind running into some bugs, then so far, it seems stable enough, but wont really know til after using it for a day.
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uicnren said:
so far the MyATT app crashes every open.
FiSwitch app, widget doesnt seem to work at all.
CustomNavigation bar app opens, but cannot be enabled due to Android version issue (also possible because Google seems to have gotten rid of system ui tuner altogether, or there is a new way you have to enable it that I havent found).
SolidExplorer gives a toast about API compatibility issue, but so far seems to work fine. I did have to delete and re-add cloud storage providers.
Off-hand, those are all I can think of, still have more to go through.
I installed factory images, did full wipe. In the past, when I have installed new OS with images, and deleted the -w (wipe user data flag) there were always issues, so I did clean install.
So far apps such as LightFlow, KWGT, CallFlash, things of that nature seem to be fine.
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https://www.xda-developers.com/android-p-blocks-custom-overlays-substratum-themes/
Delete.
dobbs3x said:
Than don't even worry about the "developer" release and keep on Oreo.
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Why are people here so helpful?
here we go! did the OTA from the xda thread. article... whats the worst thing to happen? clean install and stability? thanks for the help anyone. hope this helped some others as well.. https://www.xda-developers.com/android-p-developer-preview-1-google-pixel-xl-pixel-2-xl/