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[Q] Do apps auto kill for arc S ?

Hi, I was wondering if I needed to install APPs like Task Killer for the Arc S ? Some of my friends told me most smart phones closes APPS once we minimize them now, is that true for the xperia arc s ?
Example: If i open Angry birds and decided to stop playing by pressing back button, would Angry Bird automatically close? Or linger in the background taking up memory ?

Some apps close, some not.
Just download a task manager.
I recommend Task Manager from Rythm Software, which has a cool auto-kill function with a notification in the notification bar.
But I don't want to advertise.

Lusterboi said:
Hi, I was wondering if I needed to install APPs like Task Killer for the Arc S ? Some of my friends told me most smart phones closes APPS once we minimize them now, is that true for the xperia arc s ?
Example: If i open Angry birds and decided to stop playing by pressing back button, would Angry Bird automatically close? Or linger in the background taking up memory ?
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Yes, Angry Birds will eventually close. They might leave a small footprint in the RAM in case you want to relaunch the game shortly afterwards, but they will free up the memory eventually.
Using a task killer is not recommended. And bear in mind, whenever you see an app in the Running list, it doesn't mean that it's actually running. It could be hibernated (idle) or a service needed for your phone/app to function.
So, no, save yourself some peace of mind and forget task killers.

Asphalt 8 is out and supports shield!

I have to say this is the first gameloft game that I really like. The graphics run on high and so far it runs smooth.

Great looking game, but it does stutter/lag often on my Shield (especially when all the cars are on screen) I noticed that rebooting the device before playing helps. Does anyone else have this issue? I am sure that Tegra 4 can run this game easily, so maybe Gameloft needs to properly optimize it

MRCANNADY said:
Great looking game, but it does stutter/lag often on my Shield (especially when all the cars are on screen) I noticed that rebooting the device before playing helps. Does anyone else have this issue? I am sure that Tegra 4 can run this game easily, so maybe Gameloft needs to properly optimize it
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My guess by the sounds of it is that you are unaware that android multitasks and have not ever bothered closing apps in the background.... That would explain why rebooting helps first as that would close background apps which would otherwise cause lag.
I actually blame android poorly labelling the "recent apps" button, it actually shows "running" apps, if you open recent apps and swipe an app to the left or right to remove it from the list it closes it (and a few more like steam, dropbox and facebook also run 24/7 but need closing from task manager). There are also android task killing apps and widgets which close all running apps with the exception of system ones and those you specify in a whitelist with 1 press.

SixSixSevenSeven said:
My guess by the sounds of it is that you are unaware that android multitasks and have not ever bothered closing apps in the background.... That would explain why rebooting helps first as that would close background apps which would otherwise cause lag.
I actually blame android poorly labelling the "recent apps" button, it actually shows "running" apps, if you open recent apps and swipe an app to the left or right to remove it from the list it closes it (and a few more like steam, dropbox and facebook also run 24/7 but need closing from task manager). There are also android task killing apps and widgets which close all running apps with the exception of system ones and those you specify in a whitelist with 1 press.
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Oh trust me, I'm a Android veteran, and know all about killing running task! I do kill all running processes before playing, but I still see some lag. It only seems to run best when the entire Shield is rebooted. I am pretty sure that this is an optimization issue with the game, as I dont have to reboot at all with all the other tegra 4 enhanced games that I have on my Shield.
I just wanted to see if i was the only person having this issue..thanks for replying

Drifting
Is it possible to partially drift with the Nvidia Shield like how you would with your phone? Each time I drift, it doesn't allow you to make a small drift, only large drifts.

ChrisFirerabbit said:
Is it possible to partially drift with the Nvidia Shield like how you would with your phone? Each time I drift, it doesn't allow you to make a small drift, only large drifts.
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What do you mean large drifts?
If you want to stop drifting just hit the "X" button again.

SiDCrAzY said:
What do you mean large drifts?
If you want to stop drifting just hit the "X" button again.
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Thanks, but if you played this with your standard phone, you use the gyroscope which allows you to either drift/ turn a little or a lot, when I say large drifts I am not referring to the length, sorry for the confusion. So is there anyway to control the turn while drifting?
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ChrisFirerabbit said:
Thanks, but if you played this with your standard phone, you use the gyroscope which allows you to either drift/ turn a little or a lot, when I say large drifts I am not referring to the length, sorry for the confusion. So is there anyway to control the turn while drifting?
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Oh okay, well I haven't tried it on a phone so I don't know what level of control the gyroscope gives you, but slightly moving the left joystick on the shield gives you control while you're drifting.
I haven't mastered it yet so I still have trouble with it doing what I want it to, but it definitely alters your drift direction.

SiDCrAzY said:
Oh okay, well I haven't tried it on a phone so I don't know what level of control the gyroscope gives you, but slightly moving the left joystick on the shield gives you control while you're drifting.
I haven't mastered it yet so I still have trouble with it doing what I want it to, but it definitely alters your drift direction.
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oh ok, thank you

MRCANNADY said:
Great looking game, but it does stutter/lag often on my Shield (especially when all the cars are on screen) I noticed that rebooting the device before playing helps. Does anyone else have this issue? I am sure that Tegra 4 can run this game easily, so maybe Gameloft needs to properly optimize it
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Use a live wallpaper that Uses the Unity engine, it seems to wake up the CPU/GPU after it goes to sleep which causes both to run at only 60% of the specs.
Nvidia said they were going to look into it, in the Nvidia Shield forums, but there is no ETA on when.
I use the "Andromeda Free Live Wallpaper" would love to put a link to the store but just created the account today so I'm restricted for the time being so search on the Google Play store.

miguelvp said:
Use a live wallpaper that Uses the Unity engine, it seems to wake up the CPU/GPU after it goes to sleep which causes both to run at only 60% of the specs.
Nvidia said they were going to look into it, in the Nvidia Shield forums, but there is no ETA on when.
I use the "Andromeda Free Live Wallpaper" would love to put a link to the store but just created the account today so I'm restricted for the time being so search on the Google Play store.
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I just saw this tip in the nvidia forums also. Thanks...works like a charm! Very little to no lag now.

I've had a lot of fun with this game as well.
But has anyone noticed any random crashing to homescreen? My first crash was when my battery was getting fairly low, so I was afraid that had something to do with it. But then even after recharging some I got more random crashes. I re-enabled wifi and haven't had a crash since...
That kind of makes me curious what is going on... but I haven't looked into it further yet, so don't mean to raise any alarms.
Throughout all this though it has not corrupted my save data or anything, at least as of yet *knock on wood*. I think it was Asphault 7 that one time I got a phone call in the middle of gameplay and it crashed the game and corrupted my save data >_> I had some backups though, but lost some progress.
~Troop

That's weird. I haven't seen any crashes yet but I haven't played it for extended periods of time yet either.

Really Glad that one good Racing game has the controller support.
Enjoyed playing the game a lot

All games that use onscreen controls should be updated to support joysticks/controlpads either shield/moga/ps3 etc. You know how much better it is to physical controls? Freakin' amazing.

tenchichrono said:
All games that use onscreen controls should be updated to support joysticks/controlpads either shield/moga/ps3 etc. You know how much better it is to physical controls? Freakin' amazing.
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Agree! it all ends up with the developer/publisher for the support.

i there is a thing/app/mod that i can keep an app in memory ?

like if i want to make it like a system app so it wont goo when i clear ram thanks

Don't clear ram. It's unnecessary. Android is meant to run with little free ram. Clearing it often will only hurt your battery life from apps having to reload when you start them, and create lag. ?

I always clear my recent apps, especially after playing games, doesn't make my phone lag.
But it is very annoying when you're playing a game, come out to look at other stuff then have to reload the game. Biggest flaw in Android in my book.
I'd be interested to know if there's anything to force an app to stay in memory running.

HtcOneJon said:
But it is very annoying when you're playing a game, come out to look at other stuff then have to reload the game. Biggest flaw in Android in my book.
I'd be interested to know if there's anything to force an app to stay in memory running.
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Same here. I like to play escape games, like Doors and Rooms, and often times I need to pop out and use a calculator. (because I'm too lazy to multiply four numbers in my head...) It would be nice to use the calculator on the phone without risking losing all of my progress...
On the other hand, my math skills have definitely improved as a result of having to use the built-in memo function in the game as a scratch pad.

Background apps running?

I know this is strange but how do i keep apps running. Here the example, playing Game of War or Deer Hunter 2016, now i want to switch to and send an email. The game now has to restart? Any ideas? I know were usally trying to stop apps from running. And also i know if i had root i could ad it to multiwindow, but um i dont have root..

frome901 said:
I know this is strange but how do i keep apps running. Here the example, playing Game of War or Deer Hunter 2016, now i want to switch to and send an email. The game now has to restart? Any ideas? I know were usally trying to stop apps from running. And also i know if i had root i could ad it to multiwindow, but um i dont have root..
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There are plenty of threads complaining about crappy multitasking abilities of samsung phones. Unfortunately nothing you can do.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A

OOM is set to high so everything gets killed easy.

Careful what you ask for!
Turns out it was the Game itself they release an update for GOW and now it stays running which kills the battery so i stop it anyway

Lagging in Mobile Legend and Rules of Survival but PUBG works great

After I bought this phone I installed Ros, ML, and PUBG. I observe that only in ROS and ML I feel a massive lag even in good ping in middle of the game. I don't know if it's fps drop I mean I think sd675 can handle all high graphics of this two. PUBG in HDR and ULTRA settings works great no fps drop no lag. Can anyone notice it too? I feel bad because I'm a gamer

I had try ML but not Ros. I face same problem like you. for the first 3min on ML it good after that fps start drop until i restart the game and fps drop again

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maxivilyan said:
PUBG in HDR and ULTRA settings works great no fps drop no lag.
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How did you get those settings in PUBG? What android version are you on?
Edit: Mine is July security patch. I can't put the game on higher than HD and High frames.

Same here. Mobile legends is lagging badly.

I used to play a very lightweight game called Punch Quest (no longer in the play store but i loved it), it ran smoothly as hell on my previous Oppo F7 ,But on A70 it was lagging like hell.
I rooted the phone and discovered that "msm-adreno-tz", which is the GPU governer for our A70, is doing horrendous work with 2D graphics (Such as ML) and Punch Quest but it's decent for 3D Graphics such as PUBG.
Changing it to Performance or even Powesave fixed the heavy lag in my games.
I hope this helps someone out.

Edit: i take back this post as this isnt working anymore. I just got excited posting thinking it was fixed right after. The phone plays games without throttling while charging. Please see my edited solution
Solution
So i have been looking what applications are associated with running the app and every system processes that affects the performance of the game.
1. The game launcher launches the game everytime and enhances the game really well. So i skipped this one.
2. I went to Galaxy Store and noticed program called *GameOptimizingService* . I went to look for the reviews and there are a couple of users who complained about frame drops too. I took the time to look at it and it seems its the main culprit for the game frame drops.
Going to the app, i looked for every processes that involves this app. Please follow these steps to stop the app from changing your system performance aggressively.
1. Go to Settings > Apps
2. Click the options or 3 dots on the upper right corner and hit *Show System apps*
3. Look and click for *Game Optimizing Service* > scroll to the bottom of the page and under Advanced Section, youll see *change system settings* > unclick the *allow permission*
4. Same goes under Appear on top section > unclick the *allow permission*
5. Click the options or 3 dots on the upper right corner and hit *Special access*
6. Under *optimize battery usage* > click the drop down *Apps not optimized* and select *All*
7. Turn off *Game Optimizing Service* and *GOS Legacy* and hit back
8. Under *Appear on top* option, hit option on the upper right corner and show system apps, then disable *Game Optimizing Service* and go back once.
9. On of the most important process, enter *change system settings* . hit option on the upper right corner and show system apps, then disable *Game Optimizing Service* and *game tools* then go back once.
10. Under wifi Control, look for *Game Optimizing Service* and disable the app permission.
11. Under usage data access, look for *Game Optimizing Service* and disable the allow usage tracking
The main goal is to hinder game optimizing service from messing any of your device's system apps.
After which, all games improved drastically in mine. Please let me know what happens to your device.

Rixil 1 said:
I used to play a very lightweight game called Punch Quest (no longer in the play store but i loved it), it ran smoothly as hell on my previous Oppo F7 ,But on A70 it was lagging like hell.
I rooted the phone and discovered that "msm-adreno-tz", which is the GPU governer for our A70, is doing horrendous work with 2D graphics (Such as ML) and Punch Quest but it's decent for 3D Graphics such as PUBG.
Changing it to Performance or even Powesave fixed the heavy lag in my games.
I hope this helps someone out.
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Does this mean you forced gpu to work on everything? How was the battery life after doing it? Does the battery decrease?
Does somebody knows a work around without havibg to root the device?

chirogan said:
Edit: i take back this post as this isnt working anymore. I just got excited posting thinking it was fixed right after. The phone plays games without throttling while charging. Please see my edited solution
Solution
So i have been looking what applications are associated with running the app and every system processes that affects the performance of the game.
1. The game launcher launches the game everytime and enhances the game really well. So i skipped this one.
2. I went to Galaxy Store and noticed program called *GameOptimizingService* . I went to look for the reviews and there are a couple of users who complained about frame drops too. I took the time to look at it and it seems its the main culprit for the game frame drops.
Going to the app, i looked for every processes that involves this app. Please follow these steps to stop the app from changing your system performance aggressively.
1. Go to Settings > Apps
2. Click the options or 3 dots on the upper right corner and hit *Show System apps*
3. Look and click for *Game Optimizing Service* > scroll to the bottom of the page and under Advanced Section, youll see *change system settings* > unclick the *allow permission*
4. Same goes under Appear on top section > unclick the *allow permission*
5. Click the options or 3 dots on the upper right corner and hit *Special access*
6. Under *optimize battery usage* > click the drop down *Apps not optimized* and select *All*
7. Turn off *Game Optimizing Service* and *GOS Legacy* and hit back
8. Under *Appear on top* option, hit option on the upper right corner and show system apps, then disable *Game Optimizing Service* and go back once.
9. On of the most important process, enter *change system settings* . hit option on the upper right corner and show system apps, then disable *Game Optimizing Service* and *game tools* then go back once.
10. Under wifi Control, look for *Game Optimizing Service* and disable the app permission.
11. Under usage data access, look for *Game Optimizing Service* and disable the allow usage tracking
The main goal is to hinder game optimizing service from messing any of your device's system apps.
After which, all games improved drastically in mine. Please let me know what happens to your device.
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Please see my edited solution above. Hoping this work well for you too.

FIXED
Problems solved: You just Charging your phone while playing game like Gaming on laptop. It worked for me and it should work for you also.

bochanseiha said:
Problems solved: You just Charging your phone while playing game like Gaming on laptop. It worked for me and it should work for you also. Thanks me later ?.
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Did any of us say that? No. I never charge my phone while I'm playing, and the lag is always there.

SniperLolz said:
Did any of us say that? No. I never charge my phone while I'm playing, and the lag is always there.
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Because i faced the same problem. That why i guess they maybe play while uncharged phone like me. Cuz i dont need charger with 4500mA battery. But when i play game while charging i dont get fps drop. You look so Negative Man.

bochanseiha said:
Because i faced the same problem. That why i guess they maybe play while uncharged phone like me. Cuz i dont need charger with 4500mA battery. But when i play game while charging i dont get fps drop. You look so Negative Man.
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He is not actually negative, the way you write your sentences makes them easily be misunderstood.
SniperLolz said:
Did any of us say that? No. I never charge my phone while I'm playing, and the lag is always there.
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As I said above, you misunderstood. He says that you should play while charging.
What @bochanseiha wants to say is:
If we use the phone for gaming while it's connected to charger, games will work smoother without (or less) fps drops. Just like laptops.
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Your solution is logical. But I do not play pubg or mobile legends. I usually play Vainglory and it never gets laggy even if I play with low battery. Someone who plays mobile legends should give this solution a chance and share his/her opinion here.

Update Game Booster in Galaxy Store.
- Open your Game.
- Pull down the Notification and tap on Game Booster
- Tap on High temperature.
- Turn off Auto Control.
I test without Charging and it work good. You can test.

I was looking for the solution but any of the solution was useless for me lol... So i moved to lineage os and got rid of everything... Games run perfectly now without any problem and also its all your stupid stock that was annoying... Now i can even play games while charging and doesnt matter if screen is on or not charging is fast.. Earlier playing with charger was so **** because it uses to lag more

bochanseiha said:
Update Game Booster in Galaxy Store.
- Open your Game.
- Pull down the Notification and tap on Game Booster
- Tap on High temperature.
- Turn off Auto Control.
I test without Charging and it work good. You can test.
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this is the correct work around. I forgot to come back to update.
But apart from this, it is important to update GameOptimizingService as it throttles the game significantly too. I updated this earlier than game booster and the problem was solved.

bochanseiha said:
Update Game Booster in Galaxy Store.
- Open your Game.
- Pull down the Notification and tap on Game Booster
- Tap on High temperature.
- Turn off Auto Control.
I test without Charging and it work good. You can test.
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it is working better after update but still, i will got lag and fps drop until restart app from launcher if i switch app while i am playing ( opening whatsapp, replying mail, etc ) and then tab back to the game. if i am tabbing out even once then the frame drop wont go away no matter what i do till i close the game and play again

isakuiky said:
it is working better after update but still, i will got lag and fps drop until restart app from launcher if i switch app while i am playing ( opening whatsapp, replying mail, etc ) and then tab back to the game. if i am tabbing out even once then the frame drop wont go away no matter what i do till i close the game and play again
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I recommend while playing do not switch app or using other app. And block all pop up notification while playing game. I mean just play the game only.

bochanseiha said:
I recommend while playing do not switch app or using other app. And block all pop up notification while playing game. I mean just play the game only.
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well, i am replying whatsapp message, instagram or something like that when i am dying or respawning. There are no such issue on my previous phone and this phone with Gameoptimizing service and gameenhanced service disabled via CSWE app manager. The thing is i just want to use game launcher and game booster normally without these issues like fps drop when switching app and such cz when it happen, it will only getting worse, till i restart the game again, no matter what i do. The fps drop after few minutes playing did dissapear after update, but when switching app even for a moment, it still broke.

isakuiky said:
well, i am replying whatsapp message, instagram or something like that when i am dying or respawning. There are no such issue on my previous phone and this phone with Gameoptimizing service and gameenhanced service disabled via CSWE app manager. The thing is i just want to use game launcher and game booster normally without these issues like fps drop when switching app and such cz when it happen, it will only getting worse, till i restart the game again, no matter what i do. The fps drop after few minutes playing did dissapear after update, but when switching app even for a moment, it still broke.
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Yeah!! When i using S7 everything Good. I dont need to do anything just open the game and everything smoothly. But This A70 is running SD675 it should be good for gaming. I think Cuz of software make limited to the SD675 to run cold and drop our fps while gaming on it. Sad