Can you confirm if I am understanding "rooting" properly? - Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking

So here is what I think I know. I have a Samsung Galaxy s3.
I have successfully rooted and installed cyanogenmod.
I have twrp for a custom recovery.
I have made a nandroid backup. With that if I ever screw anything up I can restore to the exact settings/content of the backup correct?
I have titanium backup pro and have backed up my apps and settings. When a new firmware gets released I boot into custom recovery, wipe my device and install the new firmware and gapps. Can I then restore my titanium backup and get all my apps and settings back? Including the individual app settings and saves? Do I still need to install gapps?
Thanks in advance.
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Hi all,
About to root and rom for the first time on any phone and I was wondering a few things.
First, after I install clockwork mod recovery, I can make a backup... Does this backup have the ability to restore all of my apps and data after I install a custom rom? Also, does it restore things like homescreen widgets, app settings etc as well?
Secondly, after I install the rom of my choice, how does updating it to a newer version work? Will updating to a newer version wipe my phone completely or is it like receiving a stock ota update in that it doesn't erase anything?
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1) The backups in clockworkmod are of your entire phone. Without a 3rd party app such as titanium you won't be able to restore specific pieces of it. IMO clockworkmod backups are meant to be used to restore your entire phone if something goes wrong. Titanium has a feature where you can restore specific stuff from the backups, but I would recommend creating backups via titanium rather than relying on what was done in clockworkmod. Personally, I backup everything with titanium then do a backup in clockworkmod before I flash a rom. App settings will restore, widgets do but many times you'll have to add them again because they restore with placeholders for whatever reason.
2) Updating a rom is dependent on the specific rom and often the version. Some roms you can just flash over what you're running, sometimes an update will be significant enough to require a wipe. Even if a rom doesn't require a wipe, I'd advise at least doing a backup.

TWRP Backup and Restore

I have Titanium backup, but noticed that TWRP also provides a backup and restore. I think I've restored all of my apps by restoring the "data" after a ROM install (at least that's what it appears to have happened). Can anyone verify or is there another partition/folder that I should backup as well for app restoration.
Separate question - I know many people favor Titanium backup - but has anyone started using TWRP for their backup/restores?
using TWRP to restore data is the same as restoring data with CWM
TiBu lets you pick what you want to restore, which is why its preferred. also, if i remember correctly, restoring data with twrp/cwm restores system data, which is bad.
I think you are confusing an app that has backup functions (TiBu) with a recovery, which does Nandroid backups (TWRP).
I'm not confusing them. TWRP backs up data, system, cache...etc. Titanium backs up specific apps. I understand that difference, but if I want to back up all my apps, I just back up my data and restore after I flash the new ROM. It's worked so far.....and I don't have to keep reinstalling Titanium every time.
EDIT: So I guess that's my question - if I want to backup my apps and settings, would I be missing anything to just restore "data"?
BTW I have been using my data backup in TWRP after flashing ROMs and it works flawlessly.....all my apps are there.....in case anyone is interested. Currently running ParanoidAndroid.
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You probably shouldn't be just restoring /data when you flash a new ROM. In addition to your apps, /data also contains your system settings which may not be compatible with all ROMs. Flashing custom ROMs is not for the lazy, just use Titanium if you need to restore your apps.
Open Titanium Backup. Go to option>>Batch Actions.
Here you can backup all the apps(system,user system+user) including data on a single click.. And this process is totally safe. Just you have to install Titanium backup manually after installing new ROM. then it will restore all your apps with the data on a single click.

[Q] How to Upgrade OS to 4.1.2 but restore apps via CWM?

Hey guys, I just want to know if there is a way to Upgrade to version 4.1.2 via kies or OTA, like by removing cwm and Root and wiping data, but I could still restore my apps and data from CWM?
You can't use cwm without root, and only nandroid backups are possible with cwm. You'd have to backup your apps, go stock, update via ota, and re root and restore your backups from titanium or similar. Full backups without root is complicated, I'm not even sure it's possible to backup everything, but there's a method involving adb I've seen somewhere around xda.
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[Q] Make an original state backup

Hello there, I have a HTC Wildfire S I bought last week, I've already unlocked the bootloader, installed the CWM recovery and rooted the phone but I wanted to try new roms but at the same time I do not want to reinstall all my apps from my stock rom so I wanted to know a way of making a backup of the actual rom while keeping the installed apps so I wouldn't have to reinstall them, like going back time.
Yes I've made a backup of the stock rom after I rooted it and yes it is on some place safe.
Thanks.
Yepi69 said:
Hello there, I have a HTC Wildfire S I bought last week, I've already unlocked the bootloader, installed the CWM recovery and rooted the phone but I wanted to try new roms but at the same time I do not want to reinstall all my apps from my stock rom so I wanted to know a way of making a backup of the actual rom while keeping the installed apps so I wouldn't have to reinstall them, like going back time.
Yes I've made a backup of the stock rom after I rooted it and yes it is on some place safe.
Thanks.
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Use Titanium Backup app to backup all the apps and their data and keep the TitaniumBackup folder from SD card in a safe place and after installing a new ROM, transfer the TitaniumBackup folder into the root of your SD card, install Titanium backup app and then restore apps.
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Cwm backups all data in their current state, including applications.
If you're talking about bringing your already installed apps to another Rom,I wouldn't recommend doing it.
It worked as you guys said, thank you so much now I can enjoy CM10 and rollback to my stock rom with my apps already installed

Backup

Hey there!
I have a question? What's the best option for backing up my whole device? I want to flash CM 12.1 but I need TWRP for that, and for TWRP, I need to unlock my bootloader, which (according to people here) means to wipe my data and apps.
If I use the Backup app pre installed in my phone, will I be able to restore if say... I re-flash my stock ASUS ZenUI ROM again?
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Hey there!
I have a question? What's the best option for backing up my whole device? I want to flash CM 12.1 but I need TWRP for that, and for TWRP, I need to unlock my bootloader, which (according to people here) means to wipe my data and apps.
If I use the Backup app pre installed in my phone, will I be able to restore if say... I re-flash my stock ASUS ZenUI ROM again?
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Yes you can restore from the backup using the stock Asus backup app if you decide to go back too stock. If you stick with cm12.1 then I would use titanium backup from the play store to backup and restore apps from a custom rom. However titanium backup also works with the stock rom but if it restores stock apps on a custom rom they will likely crash like mad.
Fun note when I unlocked my bootloader using the unofficial method it didn't wipe my data so I didn't need to restore any app backups. As always backup anything you might need just in case something goes wrong and you need to restore anything.
Pro tip, when doing backups on a phone like that zenfone 2 if you can backup to a removable sdcard cause if something goes wrong and you cant power on your phone you will always be able to access the backups using a sdcard reader.
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