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Screen Shattered....

Wow! I just dropped my Evo from my lap (about2 feet maybe) and the screen shattered! It still works, but obviously I have to get it fixed....I have full insurance.
So my questions are these...
1. Before I take it to Sprint, I have to get it back to stock. Once I run the appropriate RUU, will there be anyway of knowing I had rooted it?
2. Will I get a new phone, or will they try to repair this one?
3. I understand there is $100 deductible, will this be the full 100? Has this happened to anyone else?
I'm in shock right now.....I love my phone =(
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Your floor must be made of adamantite....But no, as long as you get it unrooted, showing S-ON in the bootloader, they won't know, and delete all your rooting, rom materials, ect off the phone/sdcard. It'll probably be the full 100$ and they'll probably just hand you a refurbished one. But that sucks man.

Great! the damn RUU wont work! Windows 7 keeps closing it....saying something like, "Close program or Search online for solution"
I downloaded:
RUU_SuperSonic_S_Sprint_WWE_3.70.651.1_Radio_2.15.00.11.19_NV_1.90_release_161482_signed.exe
From another link and same thing....
Can I paste it to my phone and run it?
Any suggestions?
Should I put the god damned thing in the microwave then take it in!
I'm so pissed right now!...
Sorry....frustrated.

That would be funny to see it in the microwave. But you ran the RUU correctly, with phone in fastboot, connect to pc, when it shows fastboot usb then run the RUU? Also has installed then uninstalled HTC sync?

with phone in fastboot, connect to pc, when it shows fastboot usb then run the RUU
Worked...I was able to run the RUU and apperently my phone is back to stock.
However.....
showing S-ON in the bootloader, they won't know
It says:
SUPERSONIC EVT2-3 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-2.10.001
MICORP-041f
TOUCH PANEL-ATMELC03_16ac
RADIO-2.1500.11.19
Oct 15 2010,12:07:00
So what does this mean?
It appears to me that it is still rooted, "SHIP S-OFF".
But the phone seems to be completely stock.

Did they stop fixing the screen in the stores?

gqstatus0685 said:
Did they stop fixing the screen in the stores?
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Yes, they did. They will most likely make him do an Assurion claim and pay the $100 deductible. I guess it was costing Sprint too much money to fix the screens so they went back to the policy of physical damage being an insurance claim instead of a warranty repair.

i recommend to just take it to the store and they put a new screen with no charge because i get a refurbish from the insurance's and it was with marks round the camera and i take my wifes phone and they don't charge me nothing and the phone was roted and they just fix it with any question i just get stock with my refurbish old phone and i never can have the same battery life like the one i get like in 2 months ago

kasey348 said:
i recommend to just take it to the store and they put a new screen with no charge because i get a refurbish from the insurance's and it was with marks round the camera and i take my wifes phone and they don't charge me nothing and the phone was roted and they just fix it with any question i just get stock with my refurbish old phone and i never can have the same battery life like the one i get like in 2 months ago
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I feel like I'm on acid reading what you just said....
Or mushrooms......Or E......
Umm......HUH?

Yeah unroot using the 3.70 PC36IMG.zip and take it in to a sprint store and get the screen replaced.
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dont forget to flash unrevoked's newest s-on tool before running the ruu! if you have already ruu'd then just flash a recovery pc36img.zip and flash the s-on tool then ruu again.

dkdude36 said:
dont forget to flash unrevoked's newest s-on tool before running the ruu! if you have already ruu'd then just flash a recovery pc36img.zip and flash the s-on tool then ruu again.
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Ok. I hate to ask, dkdude, but I'm a bit scared.....
First, is this the link to s-on tool?
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever
Second, which pc36img.zip do I use? Or are the all the same?
I was under the impression that there are several different EVO software's out there. That is why I had to download a specific RUU to run?
Anyway, if that is not the case, can you please link exactly what I need to download? and perhaps exact directions on what I have to do?
Appreciate all you guys responding....
I'm still frustrated and pissed =)

the s-on tool is somewhere in there. its in the faq section i think. make sure to flash it before ruu-ing.
the pc36img.zip you will want to flash is the 3.70 stock version. you can find it here.
http://goo-inside.me/evo/stock/ruu/...15.00.11.19_NV_1.90_release_161482_signed.zip

Just say out was stolen
Sent by Josh_Evo!

Josh_Evo said:
Just say out was stolen
Sent by Josh_Evo!
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also pays $100. its hard to get around it.

(it not out)
Josh_Evo said:
Just say out was stolen
Sent by Josh_Evo!
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Sent by Josh_Evo!

Don't have to worry about un rooting it though...that's all I meant.
Josh_Evo said:
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Sent by Josh_Evo!

Seriously
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA Premium App

cruise350 said:
Yes, they did. They will most likely make him do an Assurion claim and pay the $100 deductible. I guess it was costing Sprint too much money to fix the screens so they went back to the policy of physical damage being an insurance claim instead of a warranty repair.
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The new official rule is any crack, in any screen, on any phone, that is larger than one inch is sent to Assurion for a physical damage claim.

HTC restricting those with s-off?

I was lucky enough to have a s-off/supercid unit, was previously on a carrier ROM then flashed the 1.29.401.7 RUU. So today I see .11 has been released OTA and go to update. It downloads fine, verifies the update then this
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I've tried it three times upon three reboots and same message. I'm not sure if it is HTCDev unlocked but it isn't rooted
Have any other s-off owners encountered this? If not, then move along and ignore me...

Where did you get an s-off/supercid handset from?

farnsbarns said:
Where did you get an s-off/supercid handset from?
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Basically got a pre-retail unit from a local carrier

P1n3apqlExpr3ss said:
Basically got a pre-retail unit from a local carrier
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How did you wangle that? Did they send it by mistake?

farnsbarns said:
How did you wangle that? Did they send it by mistake?
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Got chosen to write a series of posts about the One X for a blog sponsored by the carrier, part of that is a free phone. Oh and I'm sure the fact we got it a week or two ahead of the local launch helped as well

Might be best you stop trying to do any updates bro, and make yourself known to the good folks in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1604300
PS, can you post screen shot of your fastboot screen??

777ace said:
Might be best you stop trying to do any updates bro, and make yourself known to the good folks in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1604300
PS, can you post screen shot of your fastboot screen??
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Posted in that thread many times offering any help, noticed a post in there replying to another guy with s-off and apparently we're not much help anyway

I see. All good, just thought you might have held the holy grail...
Actually, you could be of help. Send me your phone and I'll send mine, that'd be a HUGE help!!

Well the thing is. Your phone maybe SuperCID but the SN still belongs to a branded phone. Maybe this makes the confusen... Just wait for the full RUU and flash that one.

Hmz, just checked the firmware.zip and seen this command: erasebcid: 1
NVM, this command is also present in older OTA.

xmoo said:
Well the thing is. Your phone maybe SuperCID but the SN still belongs to a branded phone. Maybe this makes the confusen... Just wait for the full RUU and flash that one.
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What do you mean by SN?
Going to try and get someone I know to try and replicate it, s-off with Asia unlocked unit

Just got this reply from HTC. Firstly I am not rooted (at least last time I checked). Secondly I am going to check whether it is HTCDev unlocked when I get home. Does being HTCDev unlocked mean I cannot get OTA updates?
Thanks for contacting HTC.
We understand that you have some concern with regard to updating your phone’s software. Please allow us to discuss your concern and assist you.
HTC manufactures each Android phone to the exact specifications as set by Google, the platform’s developer. The partner mobile operators who distribute a said phone model then customize the software for use in their respective networks. This is why the phone’s warranty is automatically void if the default phone software has been modified in any way.
Based on your email, you have rooted your phone and installed custom or modified software. In this case, please understand that you will not be able to receive or install the latest software that will be release by your dealer. Any updates you will be receiving will come from the developer of the modified software. If you want to update your HTC One X software, please contact the developer of the European RUU.
The only way you can restore the phone’s original software is to go through your dealer where you purchased the phone or its authorized service center and have it reinstalled for a fee. This is needed so you can download and install the latest software released by your dealer. Please be advised that according to the dealer’s terms and conditions, any modification to the default phone software automatically voids the warranty. However, if you have the software reinstalled by an authorized service center, you will still have a shorter service warranty in effect (the standard warranty being already voided).
Important: Please be advised that HTC distributes handsets through our partner mobile operators which we have contracts with. Our partner mobile operators also determine the software and specifications for the particular handset model they are distributing. Any queries regarding repair, assessments, replacements, upgrades and warranty claims are best discussed with your authorized dealer. Please be reminded to back up your phone’s data before going to your dealer.
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P1n3apqlExpr3ss said:
Just got this reply from HTC. Firstly I am not rooted (at least last time I checked). Secondly I am going to check whether it is HTCDev unlocked when I get home. Does being HTCDev unlocked mean I cannot get OTA updates?
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No, it does not.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

^ Thought that might be the case. I am locked and I am not rooted, yet this occurs.
Plus my reply to HTC's above message ^^^
Hi,
In reply to your reply... my One X is s-off/SuperCID, meaning I can flash whatever RUU I wish and it should get OTA updates for that region, as it did (except it fails). As far as I am concerned there is no trace on the phone linking it back to Telecom NZ at all, except possibly the IMEI - does this affect the installation of OTA updates?
I have not HTCDev unlocked, nor rooted the phone. It is merely s-off, thanks to HTC most likely. Within the bootloader it says I am locked, not unlocked or relocked, and apps like superuser or mybackup root do not work - as expected. The 1.29.401.7 RUU is signed by HTC and comes from HTC themselves, it isn't something from a custom ROM developer, the RUU I ran - and currently have on my phone - is 100% stock Android 4/Sense 4.0.
What I am trying to say, I effectively have an unlocked European One X (that is s-off) yet fails to install European OTAs because apparently I have "modified software". Doesn't sound right if you ask me.
Cheers
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You're emailing first line support at HTC, who probably have NO idea what being S-OFF is, and are just going to give you a generic answer to anything you send them. Don't waste your time
You said you changed your CID to HTC__001 in a past post - have you changed it back to Super CID? If not, do it and try again
Otherwise, just flash the RUU. And for the record there's someone in the UK with an S-OFF handset who got .11 OTA with no issues (and has never changed the CID at any point)

According to CIDGetter I am still SuperCID, scrolling down to ro.aa.maincid is HTC_001, the update region I presume, so I have no need to change it back to SuperCID
Would really prefer update OTA (or flash the update.zip, how do I do this? Im sure I've downloaded it enough times) since I can't be bothered unlocking and rooting for titanium backup
Good to hear it's perhaps just me then

You don't need to unlock to backup, there's a thread in general on how to do it via adb

Cheers for the tip, forgot about that
As for the guy that did manage to update, was he originally HTC_001 (update region) anyway? I still haven't ruled out that carrier and asia phones will have trouble once s-off is achieved, they flash the EU RUU and expect OTA updates only to get the same problem as me

Nope, he's never touched it so it was always 11111111 - the ro.aa.maincid is irrelevent as it's not the CID
Try this:
1. Connect in fastboot
2. Run 'fastboot getvar cid' and see what comes up
If it's 11111111 you have Super CID, if it's HTC_001 it's not a real CID, if it's HTC__001 then you have the unbranded EU CID

P1n3apqlExpr3ss said:
According to CIDGetter I am still SuperCID, scrolling down to ro.aa.maincid is HTC_001, the update region I presume, so I have no need to change it back to SuperCID
Would really prefer update OTA (or flash the update.zip, how do I do this? Im sure I've downloaded it enough times) since I can't be bothered unlocking and rooting for titanium backup
Good to hear it's perhaps just me then
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Think it's meant to be HTC__001 not HTC_001 ie 2 underscores.
Maybe this could be the reason?

HTC M9- Can't Boot After Trying To Go Back To Stock

Hi everyone,
First of all thank you for taking the time to read my problem, and maybe trying to help.
I will try to describe with as many data and images what I have done, that led me to my problem, I hope it's not the end of my M9.
My original goal was to revert my M9 back to stock.
The M9 state before trying to achieve this was:
Root
S-OFF
TWRP Recovery installed
Unlocked Bootloader
cid 11111111
Custom Rom- Viperone M9 version 4.3.0
To revert to stock, I first tried RUU.EXE method.
This procedure always resulted in ERROR 155. After searching the forums, I understood that this sometimes happens because of the unlocked bootloader.
So using the Fastboot I relocked the bootloader. Unfortunately, that didn't help.
After that, I tried flashing RUU.ZIP via Fastboot.
I did several Fastboot commands after searching all forums. Everytime Fastboot command resulted in another error.
Unfortunately, during this process I did S-ON, and I this that because of that, I am currently stuck.
At the moment, the device doesn't manage to execute any command I try.
Also, it doesn't boot into the firmware, so I can't S-OFF again.
I'm afraid already (hope it's not too late) to continue other actions without assistance.
At the end of OP, you will find screenshots of
The current Bootloader Screen
The current Download screen
Result info of Fastboot command: "fastboot getvar all"
A link to the RUU.EXE I tried using
A link to the RUU.ZIP I tried using
To keep thing clear, any other image of actions will be uploaded to OP.
I would very very much appreciate help and advice.
I hope it's not too late, even if this whole thing doesn't succeed, I look forward learning more to prevent this from happening in the future.
Thank you.
Bootloader Screen:
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RUU.ZIP: https://www.dropbox.com/s/edzwftny23ldsiq/0PJAIMG_HIMA_UHL_M60_SENSE70_HTC_Europe_3.35.401.12_Radio_01.01_U11440792_97.00.51203G_F_release_signed.zip?dl=0

Actions done according to information from this thread:

You have to be "official" to go to stock or the ruu fails.
I dont think supercid helps either.. S-off shouldn't make a difference.
I think it's flash a stock backup, flash stock recovery,?? lock bootloader?? Flash stock ruu.
There are a few threads. I recommend flippy's thread.
Sent from my HTC One M9 using Tapatalk

You have to be "official" to go to stock or the ruu fails.
I dont think supercid helps either.. S-off shouldn't make a difference.
I think it's flash a stock backup, flash stock recovery,?? lock bootloader?? Flash stock ruu.
There are a few threads. I recommend flippy's thread.
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Hi, and thank you for your reply.
Can you please past a link to the thread so that I can be sure I'm following the correct one?
I tried flashing recovery, locking bootloader and flashing stock RUU, all resulting in error.
If you could be more specific about what exactly I should do, I would give you the respected result.
I'm not looking for someone to do the searching or work for me. I just want to be accurate about the actions I need to do and their results so that you I and other helpers would now the exact actions made and their results.
Thank you

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3132698
Sent from my HTC One M9 using Tapatalk

shivadow said:
You have to be "official" to go to stock or the ruu fails.
I dont think supercid helps either.. S-off shouldn't make a difference.
I think it's flash a stock backup, flash stock recovery,?? lock bootloader?? Flash stock ruu.
There are a few threads. I recommend flippy's thread.
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shivadow said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3132698
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There are no instructions there. Only all sorts of files.
I have already been to that thread. The files are tried to flash are also from there.
Maybe I flashed the wrong files, or maybe I didn't do the steps properly, but in any case, I can't know from that thread since it is not described there.
Again, please be more specific about what are the steps, or anything else that I need to do.
Thank you

Did you even bother reading the OP of my thread? If you had you would have known where to find the instructions.
Sent from my HTC One S using XDA Labs

Flippy498 said:
Did you even bother reading the OP of my thread? If you had you would have known where to find the instructions.
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Lol, I read every letter in the first post.
post 1: Opening post (no instructions)
post 2: TWRP backups (not relevant to me because I can't flash the recovery, again no instructions. Only files)
post 3: OTA Updates (again no instructions. Only files)
post 4: Stock Recoveries (again no instructions. Only files)
post 5: General Info (again no instructions. Only links to other threads regarding the info)
post 6: Useful links to downloads
Did I miss something?:laugh:

henengel said:
Did I miss something?:laugh:
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Well, obviously you did.
From the OP:
Flippy498 said:
Please take a look at my google sheet if you want to get back to stock and don't know how to flash a RUU or how to correctly restore a TWRP backup. Although the sheet doesn't contain files for every existing firmware version the instructions can be used for every other RUU and TWRP backups that contain at least a Boot Image, the Stock Recovery and a System Image, too.
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RUUs and useful links (e.g. instructions) can be found in the 6th Post.​
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From Post #6:
Flippy498 said:
Flippy498's Google Sheet
Contains download links for all Back-to-Stock files he collected/created (RUUs, OTAs, official Firmware Packs, Stock Recoveries, Boot Images and TWRP Backups) and some instructions how to flash RUUs or how to Restore a TWRP Backup correctly, too​
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Edit: Btw, if you don't want others to use your IMEI for scam you should remove it from your OP.

Flippy498 said:
Well, obviously you did.
From the OP:
From Post #6:
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First of all thank you for pointing out the instructions.
Obviously, I did...
Just a suggestion, it would be very helpful if you could make the section stand out more, and be clearer that all steps and instructions are placed there.
I personally didn't understand that all of that is located there... again only my opinion.
I'll start right away and be back with all results and images...:good:

I actually prefer it the way it is now. That wasn't my thread from the beginning and I don't want to change too much of the original OP. Besides I don't like the tl;dr attitude (aka "OP? I see no reason why I should waste my time and read it!"-attitude) more and more user seem to have here on xda. You can do a lot of mistakes and ruin your phone in so many ways if you don't know what you're doing (this especially applies to S-OFF users) and this way people are forced to read the OP if they need help. (And maybe one or another user starts reading the basic information in post #5.)
Oh and for your own safety: Please take a look at the edit of my last post.

Flippy498 said:
I actually prefer it the way it is now. That wasn't my thread from the beginning and I don't want to change too much of the original OP. Besides I don't like the tl;dr attitude (aka "OP? I see no reason why I should waste my time and read it!"-attitude) more and more user seem to have here on xda. You can do a lot of mistakes and ruin your phone in so many ways if you don't know what you're doing (this especially applies to S-OFF users) and this way people are forced to read the OP if they need help. (And maybe one or another user starts reading the basic information in post #5.)
Oh and for your own safety: Please take a look at the edit of my last post.
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I totally understand you...
That is indeed the common attitude...but if it doesn't stand out a bit, it is really easy to miss like I did.
There is a lot of information here, and it's very easy to miss 1 sentence, as I did.
But you are the creator, or in this situation the of the maintainer of the post, so obviously your opinion is what counts.
As far as one is concerned, I'm just appreciate very much and thank you for your help.:good:

Well after doing as the guide said (very easy), my M9 is up and running as normal.
Thank you so very much for your help and guidance.

[GUIDE] Safely set your bootloader back to "LOCKED" from "UNLOCKED" or "RELOCKED"

[GUIDE] Safely set your bootloader back to "LOCKED" from "UNLOCKED" or "RELOCKED"
*EDIT*
A percent of those that went S-OFF/LOCKED with SunShine 3.3.8 will have kernel flashing issues. We addressed this in 3.3.9 (released May 28th 2016 5PM PST).
Either go back s-on/unlocked and redo sunshine (may throw an error, if it does lmk and i can fix on server) or go s-off unlocked. This was one of those errors that only occurs on other people's phones, so it was a PITA to track down.
*EDIT*
HTC has made some changes into how the lock status are handled. The old methods are no longer safe, and can/will revert on you, or damage your device.
To deal with this we added a feature to SunShine to allow you to pick your bootloader status.
On the HTC 10 S-OFF LOCKED will behave the same as S-OFF UNLOCKED in addition to having all the S-OFF perks.
To get back LOCKED, make sure your phone is UNLOCKED and S-ON. Run SunShine, pick the "S-OFF LOCKED" Status, and let it complete.
At this point, if you want to go s-on, then you can flash your stock RUU and run "fastboot oem writesecureflag 3" in download mode.
We currently recommend the S-OFF LOCKED status, as S-OFF will force the device to behave unlocked anyways.
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If I debranded from tmobile germany to wwe (....401..), did I have to go back to tmob or is it ok to set it s-on in wwe?
that I can go back to s-off with my license, I know

Does this work if one's already S-OFF/Unlocked?
First step would then be to set the secure flag to S-ON and run SunShine again, as I'd assume!? Am I right?
Thanks for taking your time and for your hard work on this great app.
Sent from my HTC 10 using XDA Labs

@jcase with S-off & locked option, will I still have to format data in TWRP after I s-off like with previous version?

Damn, I just bought a license and set S-Off with version 3.3.6 8 hours ago

Awesome, just what I've been waiting for on my 10!
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Nice, for If and when I decide to go unlocked.

What would we do without some sunshine in our life? Thanks guys, sooo glad you are around. It's worth every penny and more. Thank you !

I have a German t-mob101. Is it currently possible to go s-off debranded and then back to s-on locked t-mob101? Considering that there is no RUU for it, I would only have a nandroid backup.

So when we have already "SunShined" the 10 to S-Off and unlocked we should simply lock the Bootloader with fastboot oem writesecureflag 3 and let SunShine do its job again?

wiQbold said:
If I debranded from tmobile germany to wwe (....401..), did I have to go back to tmob or is it ok to set it s-on in wwe?
that I can go back to s-off with my license, I know
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Long as you are stock, it shouldnt matter
HTCNerdYoda said:
Does this work if one's already S-OFF/Unlocked?
First step would then be to set the secure flag to S-ON and run SunShine again, as I'd assume!? Am I right?
Thanks for taking your time and for your hard work on this great app.
Sent from my HTC 10 using XDA Labs
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You have to go s-on before doing this. If you have no reason to go LOCKED, no reason to go through the hassle until you do.
mjh1978 said:
@jcase with S-off & locked option, will I still have to format data in TWRP after I s-off like with previous version?
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Yes
bmwbasti said:
Damn, I just bought a license and set S-Off with version 3.3.6 8 hours ago
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Doesnt matter, if you need LOCKED in the future, go s-on, and re-run sunshine, but wait until you need it.
amq said:
I have a German t-mob101. Is it currently possible to go s-off debranded and then back to s-on locked t-mob101? Considering that there is no RUU for it, I would only have a nandroid backup.
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Yes, go stock first.
bmwbasti said:
So when we have already "SunShined" the 10 to S-Off and unlocked we should simply lock the Bootloader with fastboot oem writesecureflag 3 and let SunShine do its job again?
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Yes but dont bother unless you need LOCKED, no point in going through the hassle at this point.

Wow, thx for your reply jcase.
I've just read that the license ist bound to the hardware (think motherboard) and can be reused.
So "until you need it" apparently means in terms of warranty?
Or is there another reason where locked is really needed?

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Yes but don't bother unless you need LOCKED, no point in going through the hassle at this point.
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Well, I got S-Off but haven't really done much with the phone yet, so RUU'ing, going back to S-On and re-running SunShine to set bootloader to LOCKED right now seems less of a hassle than doing it in the future when things need to be backed up.
However, I'm somewhat paranoid about going back to S-On. I remember than on M7 / M8 / M9 it was generally not recommended as there was at least a theoretical possibility that an RUU would not return the phone to a completely stock state and you'd get a hard brick on first boot. Is this no longer a concern?
Also, I seem to have a vague recollection that flashing an RUU zip from external was preferred to just running an executable RUU from a PC, as the latter might still skip some partitions under certain conditions. True / false?
Lastly, does this thread basically mean that the good old way of changing the LOCKED and TAMPERED / Software Status: Modified flags (M7 LOCKED, M8 LOCKED, M8 TAMPERED, M9 LOCKED, M9 SS:Modified) isn't safe on HTC 10? Also, does the SS:Modified flag even get triggered on HTC 10 when S-Off?

It is still not recommended to go s-on.
I would just stay s-off/unlocked for now no point
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Well, I got S-Off but haven't really done much with the phone yet, so RUU'ing, going back to S-On and re-running SunShine to set bootloader to LOCKED right now seems less of a hassle than doing it in the future when things need to be backed up.
However, I'm somewhat paranoid about going back to S-On. I remember than on M7 / M8 / M9 it was generally not recommended as there was at least a theoretical possibility that an RUU would not return the phone to a completely stock state and you'd get a hard brick on first boot. Is this no longer a concern?
Also, I seem to have a vague recollection that flashing an RUU zip from external was preferred to just running an executable RUU from a PC, as the latter might still skip some partitions under certain conditions. True / false?
Lastly, does this thread basically mean that the good old way of changing the LOCKED and TAMPERED / Software Status: Modified flags (M7 LOCKED, M8 LOCKED, M8 TAMPERED, M9 LOCKED, M9 SS:Modified) isn't safe on HTC 10? Also, does the SS:Modified flag even get triggered on HTC 10 when S-Off?
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jcase said:
It is still not recommended to go s-on.
I would just stay s-off/unlocked for now no point
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Gotcha. Well, I'm still within the return period, so if I were ever to go back to LOCKED, now seems to be the time.
Any comment on the preferred way to RUU (zip vs exe), the old way of flag resetting with adb echo and triggering of the Modified flag on HTC 10?

Kisakuku said:
Gotcha. Well, I'm still within the return period, so if I were ever to go back to LOCKED, now seems to be the time.
Any comment on the preferred way to RUU (zip vs exe), the old way of flag resetting with adb echo and triggering of the Modified flag on HTC 10?
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RUU will clear tamper flag. HIGHLY HIGHLY recommended to not try to do that manually.
--beaups

beaups said:
RUU will clear tamper flag. HIGHLY HIGHLY recommended to not try to do that manually.
--beaups
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Right, but are you advising against writing the tamper flag value as a general recommendation for all HTC One iterations or is that a new thing unique to HTC 10? Couple posts above I linked the M8 / M9 threads for doing exactly that, didn't seem to have any negative side effects.
My other question was regarding what actually triggers the tamper flag on the 10. I remember couple of weeks ago @Captain_Throwback was saying that it doesn't even get tripped when S-Off, again unlike the way it worked on M8 / M9.

Kisakuku said:
Right, but are you advising against writing the tamper flag value as a general recommendation for all HTC One iterations or is that a new thing unique to HTC 10? Couple posts above I linked the M8 / M9 threads for doing exactly that, didn't seem to have any negative side effects.
My other question was regarding what actually triggers the tamper flag on the 10. I remember couple of weeks ago @Captain_Throwback was saying that it doesn't even get tripped when S-Off, again unlike the way it worked on M8 / M9.
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S-OFF isn't what tripped that flag on those other devices either....it never has been. Which is why running an RUU clears it.

Captain_Throwback said:
S-OFF isn't what tripped that flag on those other devices either....it never has been. Which is why running an RUU clears it.
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Guess I didn't word my interpretation of your statement unambiguously. I meant that I think you said that on the 10, after gaining S-OFF, nothing trips the tampered flag. This is unlike having S-OFF on M8 / M9, where the tampered flag could still be tripped after gaining S-OFF.

Kisakuku said:
Guess I didn't word my interpretation of your statement unambiguously. I meant that I think you said that on the 10, after gaining S-OFF, nothing trips the tampered flag. This is unlike having S-OFF on M8 / M9, where the tampered flag could still be tripped after gaining S-OFF.
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I couldn't trip that flag after S-OFF on those devices. You sure about that?
If it was tripped prior to S-OFF, I don't think S-OFF would clear it (though I'm not sure about that), but if it was official prior to S-OFF, it wouldn't get tripped afterwards, at least not in my experience.

Temp S-OFF for HTC U12+

S-OFF is out now for HTC U12+ with Sunshine
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https://twitter.com/TheRootNinja/status/1017891591531343872
https://twitter.com/firewaterdevs/status/1017152637433761795
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77066052&postcount=249

That is great! Thank you!
Could you explain a bit more about the "temp" nature at this point and why someone would need the temp solution right now before you guys figure out the permanent way?
Great work!

MNoisy said:
That is great! Thank you!
Could you explain a bit more about the "temp" nature at this point and why someone would need the temp solution right now before you guys figure out the permanent way?
Great work!
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Starting from the HTC U11, you can't permanently S-OFF the device (SunShine never achieved it for the U11). You can find a complete explanation here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/u11/how-to/s-off-word-t3662712/post73543715

MNoisy said:
That is great! Thank you!
Could you explain a bit more about the "temp" nature at this point and why someone would need the temp solution right now before you guys figure out the permanent way?
Great work!
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Razorbacktrack5535 said:
Starting from the HTC U11, you can't permanently S-OFF the device (SunShine never achieved it for the U11). You can find a complete explanation here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/u11/how-to/s-off-word-t3662712/post73543715
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In addition: it has all the same features as permanent S-OFF, with exception of the ability to use custom hboot/aboot. Once you reboot into Android or Recovery, the device will reset back S-ON, so be careful what you do, once you achieved S-OFF.
Permanent S-OFF is to dangerous - and much more risky - on those new devices as the U11 and all more recent ones.

5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
In addition: it has all the same features as permanent S-OFF, with exception of the ability to use custom hboot/aboot. Once you reboot into Android or Recovery, the device will reset back S-ON, so be careful what you do, once you achieved S-OFF.
Permanent S-OFF is to dangerous - and much more risky - on those new devices as the U11 and all more recent ones.
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Thank you for that information!
So for the basic essential customizers like me, I would start using this when we start getting some custom ROM's if they are unsigned, to change my model, install TWRP, or if I need supercid?

MNoisy said:
Thank you for that information!
So for the basic essential customizers like me, I would start using this when we start getting some custom ROM's if they are unsigned, to change my model, install TWRP, or if I need supercid?
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Wouldn't recommend SuperCID anymore, as you won't be able to receive OTAs any longer - yes they changed that as well. S-OFF is only needed to change CID and thus the specific software you're running, or to flash unsigned firmware. No more no less to it actually.
And there's no actual recovery partition anymore, due to treble. Instead stock recovery shares its partition with the respective boot.img. Thus I guess TWRP might be flashed as recovery_ramdisk, or as a TWRP patched boot image - we'll see when it's out and available though.
Sent from my HTC U11 using XDA Labs

S-off gives you complete control over YOUR device. You don't necessarily need to receive OTA's if you're S-off. You can flash your firmware on your schedule, not when the carrier or manufacturer says it's ready. Flash it when you're ready. Flash what you want, when you want. If the option is there, I'm getting S-off every time.
Do your homework, research and learn. If you're too lazy to do your due diligence, don't S-off. You can truly brick your phone if you're not 100% sure of what you're doing.
If you're going to just flash ROMs or just get root access but stay stock otherwise, no need to S-off. If you want complete control over flashing everything , go S-off.
But remember with great power comes great responsibility.

Beyond flashing random firmwares willy-nilly, what's the actual point of this when all U12+ ships unlocked (at least here, in the US)...? I really don't see any reason now.

szlevi said:
Beyond flashing random firmwares willy-nilly, what's the actual point of this when all U12+ ships unlocked (at least here, in the US)...? I really don't see any reason now.
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if there is a temp root solution u can have a completely bootloader locked saftey net passing rooted device, also the us unlocked devices just mean the sim card is unlocked for whatever carrier you want to use not bootloader unlocked

Hi! I can't to obtain s-off.I bought license via app Sunshine, but when the process begins (Sunshine will now set your device S-OFF) my phone no reboot and no to obtain s-off.
I have 1.15.401.4,unlocked,rooted.
May this need to make with LOCKED status?
Help me pls.
Sorry my english

JR 2007 said:
Hi! I can't to obtain s-off.I bought license via app Sunshine, but when the process begins (Sunshine will now set your device S-OFF) my phone no reboot and no to obtain s-off.
I have 1.15.401.4,unlocked,rooted.
May this need to make with LOCKED status?
Help me pls.
Sorry my english
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You need to be sure you went to HTC Dev and unlocked your bootloader first. After that you need to be rooted.
If you have both of those steps done and you're getting errors, go to: https://therootninja.zendesk.com/hc/en-us and check out how to troubleshoot, and send in a support ticket.
These guys are awesome, jcase and beaups are super legit and are always willing to help with their software. Good luck

Granite1 said:
You need to be sure you went to HTC Dev and unlocked your bootloader first. After that you need to be rooted.
If you have both of those steps done and you're getting errors, go to: https://therootninja.zendesk.com/hc/en-us and check out how to troubleshoot, and send in a support ticket.
These guys are awesome, jcase and beaups are super legit and are always willing to help with their software. Good luck
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Thank you)

also make sure you are on the stock kernel it doesnt like freak07's

kickyoace said:
also make sure you are on the stock kernel it doesnt like freak07's
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Sunshine S-Off isn't working for me either, the orange progress bar completes multiple times until it finally reboots but it just boots back up into the ROM. I am on cleanslate kernel, maybe that is the issue?

LibertyMonger said:
Sunshine S-Off isn't working for me either, the orange progress bar completes multiple times until it finally reboots but it just boots back up into the ROM. I am on cleanslate kernel, maybe that is the issue?
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Seems like I needs to have the stock kernel

mammothjojo88 said:
Seems like I needs to have the stock kernel
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Yes, this was exactly the problem. I restored stock kernel and it worked first try. Thanks.
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Temp. S-Off helped me to fix my Slot b, it seemed slot b was corrupt, it wouldn't boot as if there wasn't a ROM on it so reverting back to the old 1.15 ROM and taking the 1.21 OTA seemed to fix it. Seemless updates worked and i am currently back on slot b finally. I tried everything beforehand and nothing would work except this.

Thanks, used sunshine to convert u12+ china to emea ROM

answer from the support:
HTC designed the u12+ to only support temp s-off, all phones after and including the 11 have been this way

I tried to achieve S-Off with 1.30.401.2 but it takes more than 10 minutes and afterwards the phone boots into the system and not bootloader/download mode. Any thoughts?

mdxdave said:
I tried to achieve S-Off with 1.30.401.2 but it takes more than 10 minutes and afterwards the phone boots into the system and not bootloader/download mode. Any thoughts?
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I just tried it on 1.30 and it is working for me. I have no advice other than that, sorry.