[Q] Kitkat and SD Cards - Is it really an issue? - One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi All,
I'm thinking of picking up a One M8, coming from iPhone. The one thing that's bothering me is this whole deal with Kitkat and SD Cards.
So you can no longer have apps installed on the SD card, correct? How the hell do people deal with this? It's hard to get a device with > 16GB of storage, and if you use any large apps (like games, for example) you'll be running out of space in no time at all.
Is this really the issue it sounds like to me, or am I missing something. It just sounds to me like if this was right, Android gaming would be dead - yet there are numerous large (in both file size and development effort) games on the store. Devs wouldn't be making these games if no-one had space for them.
What am I missing? How do people work with this limitation?
Cheers,
DF

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[Q] Proper functioning Music App Where art thou

So here my question / issue / frustration.
I currently run Skyraider 2.5.2 (both flavors).
I flip flop back and forth between vanilla and sense, however i find myself as of late falling in love with vanilla, however i have one MAJOR issue with ALL vanilla roms at this point. Every Vanilla ROM has the sense stuff removed (good), but this also includes the HTC music app ( not to be confused at all with the Android music app), the problem with removing the HTC music app is that, unless some one can point me in a different direction, the HTC app appears to be the only music app capable of reading music off of the phones internal storage (to clarify i can navigate to songs individually i.e. using Astro and play them that way, but come on who the hell wants to have to manually select each song, doesn't that defeat the purpose of having a music player in the first place). Now before this goes in all kids of directions please let me be clear on a few items:
1) At the moment i cant afford a larger SD card than the 2gb that the phone comes with so moving my music to the SD card is not an option (See item #2)
2) I have more than 2gb of music that i have on my phone.
I would like to know:
A) Is there a music player out there that doesn't have it's head up it's ass, and can actually read the internal storage as well (this should be a goddamn given for Christ sake. (P.S. I have tried every major music player in the market.... NONE of them (at least the ones that i have found) will read the phones internal storage.
B) Can the HTC music app be used on a vanilla ROM? If so then could the ROM authors making vanilla roms PLEASE stop removing it given that is seems to be the only app out there that actually logically works, or can i just pull the HTC .apk from a sense ROM and push it to a vanilla ROM.
Thank you all for your time.
/end rant
obsidianblackhawk said:
So here my question / issue / frustration.
I currently run Skyraider 2.5.2 (both flavors).
I flip flop back and forth between vanilla and sense, however i find myself as of late falling in love with vanilla, however i have one MAJOR issue with ALL vanilla roms at this point. Every Vanilla ROM has the sense stuff removed (good), but this also includes the HTC music app ( not to be confused at all with the Android music app), the problem with removing the HTC music app is that, unless some one can point me in a different direction, the HTC app appears to be the only music app capable of reading music off of the phones internal storage (to clarify i can navigate to songs individually i.e. using Astro and play them that way, but come on who the hell wants to have to manually select each song, doesn't that defeat the purpose of having a music player in the first place). Now before this goes in all kids of directions please let me be clear on a few items:
1) At the moment i cant afford a larger SD card than the 2gb that the phone comes with so moving my music to the SD card is not an option (See item #2)
2) I have more than 2gb of music that i have on my phone.
I would like to know:
A) Is there a music player out there that doesn't have it's head up it's ass, and can actually read the internal storage as well (this should be a goddamn given for Christ sake. (P.S. I have tried every major music player in the market.... NONE of them (at least the ones that i have found) will read the phones internal storage.
B) Can the HTC music app be used on a vanilla ROM? If so then could the ROM authors making vanilla roms PLEASE stop removing it given that is seems to be the only app out there that actually logically works, or can i just pull the HTC .apk from a sense ROM and push it to a vanilla ROM.
Thank you all for your time.
/end rant
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You do realize that the incredible is pretty much the first and only phone to even have an internal storage right? cus that being the case, no devs creating 3rd party music apps will even give it a thought or make it priority. even our own devs putting out vanilla roms cant quite figure out how to get apps to read the storage properly most of the time. youre making it sound like this internal storage has been around since the invention of android...
to answer your questions, htc music app cant be used outside a full sense rom and to my knowledge there are no 3rd party apps that read internal storage yet.
if it makes you that upset, you should just shell out the 20 bucks for a 16GB micro...
First and only Android phone maybe to have large internal storage. Def. not first phone overall though.
I have been sifting through the source for the stock music app, but I have not yet found a way to add internal storage support.
considering the Droid X and Droid 2 have internal storage, hopefully some devs will wake up.
Okay so ultimately i am spoiled then I was not under the understanding that this type of functionality was that large of an issue seemed kind of common sense to me.
Well then i guess i'll just have to find an suitable alternative then.
P.S. where are you finding a 16gb sd for $20.00 i can't find anything even close to that price in my area.
Fyi, mixzing has the option to play music from either internal or sd card just not both simultaneously as the htc one does. One note though, if you use last.fm scrobbling this doesn't work off internal storage for some reason.
Sent from my Droid Incredible
http://adrynalyne.stfuthxbye.net/Music-signed.apk
You can try this. I pulled it from the Droid 2 dump. Deodexed and signed.
Mort player works for me.
obsidianblackhawk said:
Okay so ultimately i am spoiled then I was not under the understanding that this type of functionality was that large of an issue seemed kind of common sense to me.
Well then i guess i'll just have to find an suitable alternative then.
P.S. where are you finding a 16gb sd for $20.00 i can't find anything even close to that price in my area.
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Search it up on Amazon
I've found that Amazon has some of the best prices for memory cards.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

Should I buy the Galaxy Nexus?

Hello,
Currently, I have two GS2 (i9100 and T989) and a GS3. The problem is that only the T989 works on my data plan (T-Mobile USA 1700/2100MHz HSPA+)
So, now, I'm looking for a phone that combines the speed of the i9100 and GS3 with the AWS frequency support of the T989. The T-Mobile branded GS2 is rather laggy during important tasks (mainly SMS). If I want to send a text in a thread with a long history, the phone lags very badly. Even opening up the SMS app lags that phone. I don't have these problems with the two Exynos based phones. Archiving SMS messages is very important to me, so I can't delete them and need a phone that can handle long threads without massive lag.
How is the Galaxy Nexus at handling lag? I don't really play any intense games (and I'd have the GS3 for that if needed) so really I'm mainly looking to avoid SMS/browser/Gmail/UI lagging.
Additionally, I take pictures a lot. I know the camera on the Nexus is lower, but I've heard that it's about the same quality as the GS2. If that's true, I would be fine with 5MP.
Also, I see a lot of people complaining about factory defects in their phones in this forum.. How bad is the screen burn in issue?
If anyone has used a T989 in the past, how does the GNexus battery life compare?
tl;dr version:
* I need a phone that doesn't lag
* I have really, really long SMS threads
* I like taking pictures. Will I be okay with the Nexus camera? (coming from GS2)
* Should I get the Galaxy Nexus?
Thanks to anyone who can help!
Well, if the GS 2 is laggy (Which it really is, I had it myself), then flash SensatioNROM, that's the best ROM you'll find for the GS 2 and install Siyah, or Darknight kernel...
So much for the GS 2, to the Nexus, only buy this, if you don't mind having no buttons (I'm regretting it) and buy it, if you want to be the first of your friends, to have Android "Jelly Bean", which will be Android 4.1, coming out in the autumn months (For americans, the "fall"), and generally, only get the GNex, if you want PURE Googleness, which I'm also starting to regret, that's why I'm porting TWiz 5.0 to the GNex... But anyways... I'll give you a quote, from a film, 80% (at least) of this forum know:
I can only show you the door. You must go through it.
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This is a quote, that I have been using for quite some time, now.
familyguy59 said:
Well, if the GS 2 is laggy (Which it really is, I had it myself), then flash SensatioNROM, that's the best ROM you'll find for the GS 2 and install Siyah, or Darknight kernel...
So much for the GS 2, to the Nexus, only buy this, if you don't mind having no buttons (I'm regretting it) and buy it, if you want to be the first of your friends, to have Android "Jelly Bean", which will be Android 4.1, coming out in the autumn months (For americans, the "fall"), and generally, only get the GNex, if you want PURE Googleness, which I'm also starting to regret, that's why I'm porting TWiz 5.0 to the GNex... But anyways... I'll give you a quote, from a film, 80% (at least) of this forum know: This is a quote, that I have been using for quite some time, now.
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Well, I can only use a phone with AWS (1700MHz) as my main phone. The i9100 doesn't lag for me.. but the T989 does.
And I'm fine with software buttons. In fact, I think it's better..
Mainly, I'd like to know how the Nexus performs in terms of lagginess compared to i9100 and T989.
I really can't comment compared to the other phones, but the Nexus is perfect for tasks like what you mentioned, I prefer to use ChompSMS for all my texting needs, but I did use the stock Messages app and it handles just fine (even with 400 texts per convo), Gmail runs fine, and is really smooth, browsing is probably the best you can get at the moment (Try Chrome), and overall the UI doesn't lag at all for me. Even when it's 100% stock, it is still really smooth.
I highly recommend this phone, and I think you will be very happy with it
Any phone will get laggy with long sms threads. it uses a database, which get exponentially more taxing to open /w more data.
get sms backup (wise shark software), set it to sd-card only (gmail feature is kinda unreliable) ...it automatically adds sms messages to text files on your sd card, each phone number has its own text file and messages get added to the end of a file with a timestamp and arrow indicating whether they were incoming or outgoing. It should be noted that restoring /w this is worthless too, the restore feature does not work like you would expect and there is no real reason to restore anyway as you allready have all of them searchable and archived. make sure you check "auto-backup", it has allways worked perfectly for me. Also, dont delete the database (.db) file in the smsbackup folder, this is how the app keeps track of what sms have been backed up and which havent.
Next get agrep from the play store and pick the smsBackup directory as a search directory.
to view the text files (as they can get quite large), get jota which can open very very large text files.
Finally, i personally move all the text files out into a different directory on the first of every year into another directory called SmsArchive /w the folder structure (add this folder to agrep's search folders)
SmsArchive>Year>text files
Now you can backup every single sms you ever get while being able to search through them without bogging down the internal sms database.
again, the SMS backup app is kinda weird but I have searched to the ends of the earth, and as far as I know this is the only app for any platform that does this, let alone does this reliably.
Well the only laggy thing I have seen is the lwp. Most lag really bad.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
For taking quick pictures I love the instant responsiveness of the Nexus out of the box.
Its so fast I often take dozens of photos and just delete the ones that aren't 'perfect' (like any photographer does).
Liskrig said:
I really can't comment compared to the other phones, but the Nexus is perfect for tasks like what you mentioned, I prefer to use ChompSMS for all my texting needs, but I did use the stock Messages app and it handles just fine (even with 400 texts per convo), Gmail runs fine, and is really smooth, browsing is probably the best you can get at the moment (Try Chrome), and overall the UI doesn't lag at all for me. Even when it's 100% stock, it is still really smooth.
I highly recommend this phone, and I think you will be very happy with it
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I'm glad to hear that! However.. I'm looking at more like ~3000 messages per thread than 400. Hopefully it will be okay.
starnostar said:
get sms backup (wise shark software), set it to sd-card only (gmail feature is kinda unreliable) ...it automatically adds sms messages to text files on your sd card, each phone number has its own text file and messages get added to the end of a file with a timestamp and arrow indicating whether they were incoming or outgoing. It should be noted that restoring /w this is worthless too, the restore feature does not work like you would expect and there is no real reason to restore anyway as you allready have all of them searchable and archived. make sure you check "auto-backup", it has allways worked perfectly for me. Also, dont delete the database (.db) file in the smsbackup folder, this is how the app keeps track of what sms have been backed up and which havent.
again, the SMS backup app is kinda weird but I have searched to the ends of the earth, and as far as I know this is the only app for any platform that does this, let alone does this reliably.
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Hmm.. I've used two SMS backup apps in the past: SMSBackup+(Jan Berkel) and SMSBackup/Restore(Ritesh Sahu). Have you tried these two apps? If so, why did you like Wise Shark's app more? I'd like to know a little more about it if you have time, cause it is $5. Thank you
I like it more because it automatically pushes any new sms messages to the end of an existing text file on the internal storage, /w a text file for each number.
It seems to be the only good solution for a "long-term archive" of text messages, I don't like it when the backup apps tie a name to the number, numbers are static and never change but what if you misspelled a persons name and correct it?...after years of that kind of stuff it turns into a disaster.
I also chose it because I'm a linux nut...text files are the most simplistic type of file this can be put into (next to csv, but csv loses "human readability" in exchange for limited import/export ability), you DON'T want a database for years of sms messages, a database like that will give your computer a run for its money depending on the database structure. Take the simplicity of a text file and add it to the enormous power of grep (and if you wanna get really nerdy, regex) and you can search literally decades of sms messages with very little cpu power/memory in seconds.
It should be dualy noted that I also use rsync to sync my sms-archive (via mobile network) every day to my home-server, at which point a cron-job encrypts it, renames it to the current date/time-stamp and sends this file to dropbox. I backup many other files on my phone and other computers with this method too.....go ahead and make fun if you like
I also try to keep my own data...if you trust gmail for your sms backup, what would you do if something happened to gmail? I like to have my data in a tangible form that I can backup/edit/use without crossing my fingers and relying on the competence of another party.
tl;dr version - simple and portable files that can be read on anything and searched with open source tools, no messy database, its the most simple type of file data like this can be stored in. its also the only app for any phone/platform that I have ever found capable of this, at least without saying "F*^$ it" and making my own app.
So, I decided to buy it!
Thanks to everyone who answered my questions
Some first impressions:
* amazing feeling in hand.. this phone feels great to hold without a case
* updated itself to 4.0.4 automatically..? Saved time; but a warning would have been nice before using up like 60MB data.
* that really nice button glow effect disappeared after 4.0.4 update
* so far, browser performance is amazing, definitely better than the T989
* the LED hardware acts a little weird.. only activates sometimes
* black blobs under the screen.. but I hear that 90% of these phones have this issue
* keeps switching between "3G" and "H." These are the same thing, no?
I'm getting worried hearing about so many people having problems with their phones in this forum...
But so far, asides from some minor problems, the Galaxy Nexus seems like the right choice for me
3g and h (hspa) are indeed the same thing, can't say why they switch randomly though.
As far as all the people with problems with their phones it may be worthwhile to bear in mind that people are much more likely to post if they have problems than if they have none. I personally have no complaints about the phone, in fact I love it, and won't be starting a thread called "omg I love my gnex, it's perfect"
Sent from my Cyanogenmodded GNex
I too have had no problems with gnex. I'm on 4.0.4 stock and its smooth, fast and reliable.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA
It's good to know many people have no issues! I hope I won't have any major problems.. :x
Anyone know what's going on with the notification LED though? Is it normal for it to only activate like 50% of the time?
And is it worth asking for a replacement if you have the black blobs under the screen?
3g and h (hspa) are indeed the same thing, can't say why they switch randomly though.
I believe that h shows with an active data connection. When it shows 3g, should be an idle connection.. Dont quote me on that lol but remember reading something bout it..

[Q] HTC Wildfire S as tablet

Hi all, I'm looking for a solution here,
I have an HTC Wildfire S, but I'm experiencing low memory issues too frequently for my liking so off to buy another budget android to use as a phone, but would like to keep using my Wildfire S possibly as a tablet.
When I say as a tablet I mean removing all the phone related features like messaging, phone, contacts and so forth, so would like to know if there are any good roms that are in this way. Or if possible editting the prop files to make the market think it is a tablet with similar specs, so if anyone can guide me here or give me any ideas on this it would be a great help.
As a quick solution to the low memory I'm doing a full wipe of my phone tonight until I get my new phone, which isn't ideal but I guess I will have to!
HTC Wildfire S A510e CDMA running robotomod
Rooted but S-On so cannot access system files to delete crap that's in there!
sugarglidezz said:
Hi all, I'm looking for a solution here,
I have an HTC Wildfire S, but I'm experiencing low memory issues too frequently for my liking so off to buy another budget android to use as a phone, but would like to keep using my Wildfire S possibly as a tablet.
When I say as a tablet I mean removing all the phone related features like messaging, phone, contacts and so forth, so would like to know if there are any good roms that are in this way. Or if possible editting the prop files to make the market think it is a tablet with similar specs, so if anyone can guide me here or give me any ideas on this it would be a great help.
As a quick solution to the low memory I'm doing a full wipe of my phone tonight until I get my new phone, which isn't ideal but I guess I will have to!
HTC Wildfire S A510e CDMA running robotomod
Rooted but S-On so cannot access system files to delete crap that's in there!
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Honestly if you want to remove all these apps you need root, and with root you can simply increase your internal storage
But there is a ROM, Paranoid Android, for ICS or Jelly Bean, and it allows you to choose your UI (Tablet or Phone) for each app and to "zoom" these apps if they are too small or too large with Tablet UI.
If you want to delete messaging, phone, etc. , as far as I knows, you'll need do delete files yourself beacuse there is no tablet ROM on a phone :silly: . Be very careful, make a full backup and delete just files you want to delete. But I don't advice you to delete contacts because many apps use them.
However I think it would be a lot easier just to use int2ext+, s2e, data2sd, link2sd or whatever because it is a simple flash through recovery or just an app to install and that's done
contacts are also on tablets without 3G so dont remove it

[Q] 3 GB apps limitation (7 and 7a) Free our memory

Hi ,
because of a strange memory partitioning the Find 7 and 7a are limited to 3gb memory for both running and installing the apps.
I've been using a S2 with cyanogen and a 2 GB partition so i know from personnal experience how annoying it is to not have enough memory to update or install apss.
Theoretically you could repartition the memory, but it's not for the fainted heart especially for a telephone as young the find 7.
I still find the phone attractive and i'm ready to order it but i wo'nt till i'm not sure that the 3 GB limitation can be circumvented.
On the Oppo forum there's a thread about that (Free our memory).
I've have almost no hope that oppo will deal with the problem.
So people, right now what are the options and what are are the consequences of repartitioning ?
There is a thread in development, where you can do it yourself (fairly easily by the looks of it).
I'm gonna do this when I get home from work, but you can ofcourse try yourself already: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2796232
free our memory movement
Bobalamer said:
Hi ,
because of a strange memory partitioning the Find 7 and 7a are limited to 3gb memory for both running and installing the apps.
I've been using a S2 with cyanogen and a 2 GB partition so i know from personnal experience how annoying it is to not have enough memory to update or install apss.
Theoretically you could repartition the memory, but it's not for the fainted heart especially for a telephone as young the find 7.
I still find the phone attractive and i'm ready to order it but i wo'nt till i'm not sure that the 3 GB limitation can be circumvented.
On the Oppo forum there's a thread about that (Free our memory).
I've have almost no hope that oppo will deal with the problem.
So people, right now what are the options and what are are the consequences of repartitioning ?
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hey bobalamer,
i am the person who started the "FREE OUR MEMORY MOVEMENT" and i hope i have your support on the oppo forum..
it is a terrible issue with this device and there seems to be too many reasons/answers why oppo went down this road,
there are people/devs at this very moment trying to resolve this issue so we may get a work around but it could be easily solved by oppo themselves...so if we are lucky and pressure them as much as possible than maybe something will get done...as these are awesome devices and they would be unstoppable with a unified memory partition.....
having problem My OPPO Find 7 QHD
I having problem with my Oppo Find 7 QHD i cannot view my picture or take a photo its telling me my External Storage is not Available but when i check my storage i have 32GB and SD Card ay 16GB. kindly someone tell me whats wrong in my device and what i will do? Thanks!
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i follow the step but did not work for me
the big mistake i deleted my back external Storage now i return to ColorOS but this is my problem now can someone help me? Thanks!
mrsynister1971 said:
hey bobalamer,
i am the person who started the "FREE OUR MEMORY MOVEMENT" and i hope i have your support on the oppo forum..
it is a terrible issue with this device and there seems to be too many reasons/answers why oppo went down this road,
there are people/devs at this very moment trying to resolve this issue so we may get a work around but it could be easily solved by oppo themselves...so if we are lucky and pressure them as much as possible than maybe something will get done...as these are awesome devices and they would be unstoppable with a unified memory partition.....
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Dr mrsynister,
when you write things like "these are awesome devices and they would be unstoppable with a unified memory partition" it always makes m smile.
Those phones are already yesterday's news for oppo.
They are already working on the next model and they wo'nt correct this default.
If you're serious about putting pressure on them , then you have to spread your "movement" outside oppo forum.
You have to follow them everywhere, to alert them publicly on their twitter account; facebook pages , google + etc...
The problem is not so much the partition on the find 7 than the inabillity to listen their customer on the find 5 / find 7a and now find 7.
A thread in a forum is not a movement, i'm sure you can do better than that

Im determined to keep this phone... Looking to "upgrade" it in certain ways

But ive heard that earlier versions of android can be security risks... is that true? What if you never do anything critical like banking on your phone?
Ive been toying with the idea of trying a custom rom (that someone else already built lol), but, i absolutely despise the standard android toggles that are only like 3 per row and take up the whole screen. theyre massive. i LOVE how the stock touchwiz keeps everything all on the one screen in the notification drawer. Are there any roms that use this same compact design? without having the 2 screens?
ive also been toying with trying to add ram using a partitioned SD card. but i have a few quesitons about that too. first being that ive heard that you cant access your SD card by computer anymore.... so with that being the case, how do you go about backing up the data on your SD card just in case the card fails? has anyone done this successfully with this phone?
i love the small physical size of this phone, i have small hands. and newer phones, much like roller coasters, are shooting for the biggest tallest on the market it seems. im an ambidextrous swiper so even to smoosh the keyboard to one side is a pain... id be forever going into settings to switch sides. i have a tablet i do this with, its quite irritating. but the glide i can reach using either hand on full width for the keyboard. and once in a while, i do still use the physical keys
oh! also... i have played with an S5 mini (but a fake i suspect)... my captivate glide does certain things, like greenify apps, faster... for it being newer and higher ram (a bit) it doesnt seem all that... higher. so at least for the time being, im going to stick with my good ol captivate glide. the s5's haptic feedback is lousy too and thats become a feature that i just cant live without (for swipe and typing especially, but i like it for the touch buttons too). also not a fan at all of the tiles for notifications, i much prefer just having the icon up in the corner. and my screen lock does something the new one doesnt... it doesnt instantly require your pattern again even though you did power the screen off with the button. so many little things, i just LOVE about captivate glide.
Ive rambled a little but i hope anyone who has tried can point me to the best rom, if im not best off with sticking with stock touchwiz, which is what ive done until now.
if anyone still also using this phone has any tips that would be great
I'm also determined to keep it, but primary because of the hardware keyboard, which you seemingly are not using?
If you have become accustomed to your current setup, bear with it as long as you can. Yes custom ROMs are fun and glorious, but flashing and configuring can be a PITA and it doesn't sound you're the tech-savy nerd willing to fight it through.
So just go on & stick with the stock ROM. However if you can, do not use the internal stock browser but a recent Chrome version because of the security fixes it will contain.

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