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[Q] 4.3 and Big Brother Knox..

Okay, well I'm really starting to dislike this crap.
I replaced the board in my girlfriend s3, and it had 4.3 OTA on it -.-.
Now to my understanding, the OTA update comes with knox in the bootloader.This keeps anyone from flashing custom roms/recoveries.
I've followed all the guides and such. I dont care about 4.3. I just want knox completely removed, and revert it back to 4.1.2. I know that there is bootloaders floating around out there, that should overwrite the knox bootloader, and then flash a stock 4.1.2 rom. Now in theory that should work, but my googling skills have gone down the drain. I can't find any bootloader files, There has to be a way around this, its been over a month now. I honestly don't ever want to upgrade to 4.3. I'm happy with jellybean. It's stable, and smooth.
Just want to pick all your guys' brains xD.

Johnnysauur said:
Okay, well I'm really starting to dislike this crap.
I replaced the board in my girlfriend s3, and it had 4.3 OTA on it -.-.
Now to my understanding, the OTA update comes with knox in the bootloader.This keeps anyone from flashing custom roms/recoveries.
I've followed all the guides and such. I dont care about 4.3. I just want knox completely removed, and revert it back to 4.1.2. I know that there is bootloaders floating around out there, that should overwrite the knox bootloader, and then flash a stock 4.1.2 rom. Now in theory that should work, but my googling skills have gone down the drain. I can't find any bootloader files, There has to be a way around this, its been over a month now. I honestly don't ever want to upgrade to 4.3. I'm happy with jellybean. It's stable, and smooth.
Just want to pick all your guys' brains xD.
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You should read THIS. It explains everything. You can't overwrite KNOX or downgrade boot loader or you will brick, but you can still root and have custom recovery, then flash a ROM of your choice. Downgrading includes flashing TAR files in ODIN and downgrading mk3 to md4 or lower via zip files.
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Is there anything different you need to do for custom recovery on 4.3
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Johnnysauur said:
Is there anything different you need to do for custom recovery on 4.3
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I believe anything after md4 won't mount storage. Check THIS thread. I flashed the TWRP Tar in ODIN on a Boost GS3 that wouldn't mount storage.
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joeyhdownsouth said:
You should read THIS. It explains everything. You can't overwrite KNOX or downgrade boot loader or you will brick, but you can still root and have custom recovery, then flash a ROM of your choice. Downgrading includes flashing TAR files in ODIN and downgrading mk3 to md4 or lower via zip files.
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I thought you couldn't root if 4.3 was applied with ota
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Johnnysauur said:
Okay, well I'm really starting to dislike this crap.
I replaced the board in my girlfriend s3, and it had 4.3 OTA on it -.-.
Now to my understanding, the OTA update comes with knox in the bootloader.This keeps anyone from flashing custom roms/recoveries.
I've followed all the guides and such. I dont care about 4.3. I just want knox completely removed, and revert it back to 4.1.2. I know that there is bootloaders floating around out there, that should overwrite the knox bootloader, and then flash a stock 4.1.2 rom. Now in theory that should work, but my googling skills have gone down the drain. I can't find any bootloader files, There has to be a way around this, its been over a month now. I honestly don't ever want to upgrade to 4.3. I'm happy with jellybean. It's stable, and smooth.
Just want to pick all your guys' brains xD.
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At this time, the only way to get Knox out of the bootloader is to write over it with an unknoxed bootloader that's signed by Samsung, and passes the version check by the current bootloader.
Knoxed bootloaders will reject previous bootloader versions, even if those are properly signed.
However, loading a current version bootloader (properly signed) without knox to replace the knoxed one should then allow you to revert back to a previous version.
The only way this wouldn't work is if the knoxed bootloader killed a q-fuse somewhere, but no one has found proof to this.

andyistic said:
At this time, the only way to get Knox out of the bootloader is to write over it with an unknoxed bootloader that's signed by Samsung, and passes the version check by the current bootloader.
Knoxed bootloaders will reject previous bootloader versions, even if those are properly signed.
However, loading a current version bootloader (properly signed) without knox to replace the knoxed one should then allow you to revert back to a previous version.
The only way this wouldn't work is if the knoxed bootloader killed a q-fuse somewhere, but no one has found proof to this.
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Correction: nobody has positively verified the existence of an eFuse, to my knowledge, just yet. But there is a substantial amount of evidence to suggest its existence. If you try to revert from KNOX to a previous bootloader version, it has a pretty consistent knack for hard-bricking the devices so they won't even power to the download or recovery consoles. From what I've read, people have had similar experiences when attempting to run older versions of TriangleAway to zero out their flash counts. Additionally, every attempt that has been made to revert the KNOX Warranty Void flag that I've read about has resulted in a hard-brick as well.
It's also important to note: At this time, when people say they've removed KNOX what they're really talking about are the apps that came in the 4.3 update. Removing these does not have any impact on the bootloader's status. There is currently no way to remove the KNOX bootloader without irrevocably crippling your device.

[Q] should i update m919 to 4.3?

Hello All
So i ended switching my phone m919 4.3 for m919 4.2.
I have a few questions since im a NOOB.
Do i benefit anything if i update to 4.3?
If i root my phone (m919 4.2) do i lose warranty?
Can i unroot 4.2, go to stock, than update to stock 4.3?
I know there is a version of 4.3 out there with no KNOX, if i were to install that, can i still go back to stock 4.2 ?
Thanks

Xx_Joe_Wireless_xX said:
Hello All
So i ended switching my phone m919 4.3 for m919 4.2.
I have a few questions since im a NOOB.
Do i benefit anything if i update to 4.3?
If i root my phone (m919 4.2) do i lose warranty?
Can i unroot 4.2, go to stock, than update to stock 4.3?
I know there is a version of 4.3 out there with no KNOX, if i were to install that, can i still go back to stock 4.2 ?
Thanks
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#1: All the custom cwm/twrp flashable 4.3 zip file roms are KNOX free. (no knox)
#2: You will only get KNOX if you do a Kies update, Odin Flash 4.3 rom or allow the OTA update.
#3: As long as you don't have KNOX you can always flash back to any 4.2.2 zip file cwm/twrp roms.
#4: If you are rooted right now there is NO NEED to un-root before flashing a cwm/twrp flashable
zip file 4.3 custom rom like the Wicked or Darthstalker roms.
If you are on a 4.2.2 rom and you don't do any of the three things in #2 you do not need to worry about
KNOX at all.

I'm on stock 4.2.2 (not rooted), I've rooted my previous devices in the past. I'm coming from the t-mobile galaxy s2.
However, I personally love stock touchwiz with root, and a few bloatware items removed. But, I've read nothing but problems and issues from people having network connection issues to other things happening with their 4.3 flashes. And as to not discredit those people, I'm quite sure they have read and re-read directions several times, but still have issues. So, until those get worked out. I plan to stay right where I'm at. If I do end up rooting, it will be because I ran out of space on my phone and will be moving data to the sd card.
Hopefully you are a lucky one who doesn't suffer any data drops or sound issues when flashing to 4.3.
to each their own though.

HTCMDA said:
I'm on stock 4.2.2 (not rooted), I've rooted my previous devices in the past. I'm coming from the t-mobile galaxy s2.
However, I personally love stock touchwiz with root, and a few bloatware items removed. But, I've read nothing but problems and issues from people having network connection issues to other things happening with their 4.3 flashes. And as to not discredit those people, I'm quite sure they have read and re-read directions several times, but still have issues. So, until those get worked out. I plan to stay right where I'm at. If I do end up rooting, it will be because I ran out of space on my phone and will be moving data to the sd card.
Hopefully you are a lucky one who doesn't suffer any data drops or sound issues when flashing to 4.3.
to each their own though.
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You missed the people who update just their radios to MK2 and no longer have those mobile data problems on 4.3. There's a guide in the General section that's N00B friendly.

lordcheeto03 said:
You missed the people who update just their radios to MK2 and no longer have those mobile data problems on 4.3. There's a guide in the General section that's N00B friendly.
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I know, that's what I'm talking about. People who updated the radios and flashed 4.3, still have issues. still have data drops, sometimes wifi doesn't work, and tethering is broken.

HTCMDA said:
I know, that's what I'm talking about. People who updated the radios and flashed 4.3, still have issues. still have data drops, sometimes wifi doesn't work, and tethering is broken.
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I have ZERO issues. I built my rom from stock 4.3 firmware. All Knox free. Flashed new modem.bin through Odin and all is good. Wifi is good. Data is good.
People who complain about data and whatnot is user related.
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Misterjunky said:
#1: All the custom cwm/twrp flashable 4.3 zip file roms are KNOX free. (no knox)
#2: You will only get KNOX if you do a Kies update, Odin Flash 4.3 rom or allow the OTA update.
#3: As long as you don't have KNOX you can always flash back to any 4.2.2 zip file cwm/twrp roms.
#4: If you are rooted right now there is NO NEED to un-root before flashing a cwm/twrp flashable
zip file 4.3 custom rom like the Wicked or Darthstalker roms.
If you are on a 4.2.2 rom and you don't do any of the three things in #2 you do not need to worry about
KNOX at all.
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im on 4.3 stock can i downgrade i dont care about warranty or knox

Just to point out, I never said EVERYONE. I just said people.
I'm sure some work flawless, and others not so much. But I know I read through page after page of issues. Some stated theirs worked, but I feel I read more non-working comments than working ones.

re: downgrade
mrej201 said:
im on 4.3 stock can i downgrade i dont care about warranty or knox
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You cannot downgrade if you are on stock 4.3, whether you care about warranty or not.

well thank you !

Misterjunky said:
You cannot downgrade if you are on stock 4.3, whether you care about warranty or not.
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I had a question also, if I am currently on MDL with the new radio, how would I update to 4.3 and then install custom recovery again and gain root? Is that possible?

I'd flash a stock rooted rom
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Android_Monsters said:
I'd flash a stock rooted rom
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I just wanted to update to the new bootloader with the new LTE modem, because I have been seeing some problems b/w switching with LTE when using the new radio without the new LTE modem.

[q] kernel is not seandroid enforcing

I've installed the latest Tmobile 4.4.2 Firmware via SamMobile. I came from M17 4.3. Updated via Odin to Tmobile 4.4.2, I then rooted via CF Auto root (Don't care about Knox at this point) successfully and following that flashed Philz recovery with success.
Everything is all good, as I am familiar with other devices and rooting and booting into recovery. At this point I downloaded the latest SlimKat and Lean Kernel to flash onto my system. Reboot into recovery, flash is a success, however when I reboot the system I start to get a bootloop saying Kernel is not seandroid enforcing set warranty bit: Kernel..I've tried to JUST flash SlimKat with the same results. Following this It continues to bootloop so I am forced to Odin from my PC back to Tmobile stock 4.4.2.
Can someone assist me with a solution? TLR, Custom ROMs/Kernels are not allowing me to boot due to Kernel is not seandroid enforcing set warranty bit: Kernel bootloop

My guess would be that slimkat doesn't support 4.4 bootloader yet.

Oh wow, if it was that simple the whole time..Lol, is there a list of ROMs that do?

Custom kernels will ALWAYS show that on boot.
Dev's turn off the SEANDROID permission crap because not all root apps deal with that permission properly.
Bootloop on the other hand would be a different issue doubtfully related to this.

t3tr1s_ said:
Oh wow, if it was that simple the whole time..Lol, is there a list of ROMs that do?
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You have to read the op of the rom you're interested in. If it doesn't say it supports both bootloaders then it's most probably for 4.3 bl only.
Anthem here says it supports both bl.

I'm confused, can a 4.4.2 ROM only be on a 4.3 BL?

t3tr1s_ said:
I'm confused, can a 4.4.2 ROM only be on a 4.3 BL?
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I am not a technical person but how I understand it is that custom recovery/rom flashes doesn't load/replace the bl.
Cm and aosp-based roms were dev'd for 4.3 until a month or two ago when they start supporting both bl and even then not all roms do.

t3tr1s_ said:
I'm confused, can a 4.4.2 ROM only be on a 4.3 BL?
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Yes, it sure can.
If you're fully upgraded to the KK package completely, ex: through odin, you have to use a KK rom that has the 4.4.2/Kernel bootloader components.
If you don't fully want to commit to KK completely you can flash a KK rom that has a kernel with the older boot loader. That will allow you to go back to 4.3.
I suspect given time, 4.3 support will be slowly dropped in favor of a full KK implementation on this forum. In the transition period, be careful what you pick and choose to install.
I, like many others, have gone full KK inc. bootloader, etc for full compatibility with everything. When you go full update, you get the updated firmware and bits for the modems, etc.

Thank you very much for all your help, it was the bootloader issue. Just me not reading into things fully, very glad that I asked. I am now running Beanstalk on my Note!
Now that I have all of that cleared up, my next question is the S-PEN. I'm assuming all CM/AOSP ROMs will not support it, thus making me switch to TouchWiz. Is that true? Or are there Apps that I can still use in conjunction with my S-PEN?
As far as TouchWiz is concerned, is Xnote updated to the KK BL and compatible with our Tmobile version? I searched the thread but did not find any answer. If not, what is a suitable replacement to maintain funcionality of the S-PEN while having bloatware removed?

There are apps but it won't give you the full Samsung spen experience like on stock.
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As long as I have a note taking app I think i would be good to go. It's really the only feature I use.

also having this problem

4.4.2 bootloader

Where do I go to flash the new 4.4.2 bootloader and baseband
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2677252
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How do I flash with mobile odin
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Can I ask...
I've been reading thru some of these threads, and I'm coming to the conclusion that even with KitKat the bootloader is still unlocked, is this true? I have at&t version and they started locking that down with 4.3 JB.
Thanks.

MoodSwinger said:
I've been reading thru some of these threads, and I'm coming to the conclusion that even with KitKat the bootloader is still unlocked, is this true? I have at&t version and they started locking that down with 4.3 JB.
Thanks.
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Correct, fortunately still unlocked.

muniz_ri said:
Correct, fortunately still unlocked.
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This caught my eye. How is that possible with the bootloader unlock, is that just for AT&T? I am on T Mobile GS4 running 4.3 and I can see the knox counter on it 0x0 and I was informed that once updated from 4.2 to 4.3 and above the bootloader is now locked. Please clarify I would like to know. I am rooted though on stock through using this forum and have not tripped knox using this method. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
I would love to find a way to install CWM without tripping the counter and trying other roms again but I here I can use bootstrap to run a custom rom, but no word on getting CWM installed without tripping the counter......unless I am wrong and I hope I am!
Thanks,
Mr Wizard

mr wizard said:
This caught my eye. How is that possible with the bootloader unlock, is that just for AT&T? I am on T Mobile GS4 running 4.3 and I can see the knox counter on it 0x0 and I was informed that once updated from 4.2 to 4.3 and above the bootloader is now locked. Please clarify I would like to know. I am rooted though on stock through using this forum and have not tripped knox using this method. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
I would love to find a way to install CWM without tripping the counter and trying other roms again but I here I can use bootstrap to run a custom rom, but no word on getting CWM installed without tripping the counter......unless I am wrong and I hope I am!
Thanks,
Mr Wizard
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I want to know that too.

mr wizard said:
This caught my eye. How is that possible with the bootloader unlock, is that just for AT&T? I am on T Mobile GS4 running 4.3 and I can see the knox counter on it 0x0 and I was informed that once updated from 4.2 to 4.3 and above the bootloader is now locked. Please clarify I would like to know. I am rooted though on stock through using this forum and have not tripped knox using this method. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
I would love to find a way to install CWM without tripping the counter and trying other roms again but I here I can use bootstrap to run a custom rom, but no word on getting CWM installed without tripping the counter......unless I am wrong and I hope I am!
Thanks,
Mr Wizard
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I think you have a definition difference. The bootloader is unlocked on the TMO S4. That is you can use the bootloader to update and install modems, roms, recoveries, etc. It is not locked and will let you do this.
However, if you use the 4.3 and above bootloader, it will set a flag if you flash a recovery. This is known as the Knox Warranty flag. And, this is what is shown on the ODIN or bootloader screen.
BTW, if you update to NB4 (Kit Kat) with a 4.3 bootloader or later, the SafeRoot method will not work. The only known rooting method at this time is the CF-Auto-Root which will trip the Knox flag. So, if you are fully stock 4.4.2 you will trip your Knox flag if you root the phone.
However, you can do it. It doesn't lock you out of doing it. It just records that you've done it.
Rob

rlichtefeld said:
I think you have a definition difference. The bootloader is unlocked on the TMO S4. That is you can use the bootloader to update and install modems, roms, recoveries, etc. It is not locked and will let you do this.
However, if you use the 4.3 and above bootloader, it will set a flag if you flash a recovery. This is known as the Knox Warranty flag. And, this is what is shown on the ODIN or bootloader screen.
BTW, if you update to NB4 (Kit Kat) with a 4.3 bootloader or later, the SafeRoot method will not work. The only known rooting method at this time is the CF-Auto-Root which will trip the Knox flag. So, if you are fully stock 4.4.2 you will trip your Knox flag if you root the phone.
However, you can do it. It doesn't lock you out of doing it. It just records that you've done it.
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So if Knox counter doesn't matter you can still root device..are you still able to install custom roms? or isn't that possible ATM? Trying to get rid of the severe lag 4.4.2 OTA update has bestowed upon my gf's phone.

PaSsAtDrOiD said:
So if Knox counter doesn't matter you can still root device..are you still able to install custom roms? or isn't that possible ATM? Trying to get rid of the severe lag 4.4.2 OTA update has bestowed upon my gf's phone.
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You can flash anything you want with the TMO S4.
However, if you need to return it for warranty, they MAY check the Knox flag, and they MAY not do the warranty service for free. That hasn't been shown to be a fact, but it is the reason for the flag in the first place.
It has been stated by a few people that re-flashing back to full stock will remove the Knox flag. I cannot verify it, since I haven't tried it.
Rob

Can anyone shed some light on a couple of points? I currently have the MDL bootloader along with the NB4 modem. This all runs fine with my daily driver (LightSpeed) 4.2.2 ROM, as well as the (Insane Kit Kat) 4.4.2 I've been experimenting with. I do understand that I can't go back to the MDL bootloader if I update. Knox issues aside, is there any actual advantage to having the new bootloader? Since my warranty is running out soon anyways, I'm not too worried about tripping Knox. So, does the NB4 bootloader offer any real performance or feature advantages? Can I still run 4.2.2 or 4.3 ROMs with it, or will it limit me to 4.4.2+ ROMs? Does it impact the usage of different kernels? Thanks!

rlichtefeld said:
You can flash anything you want with the TMO S4.
However, if you need to return it for warranty, they MAY check the Knox flag, and they MAY not do the warranty service for free. That hasn't been shown to be a fact, but it is the reason for the flag in the first place.
It has been stated by a few people that re-flashing back to full stock will remove the Knox flag. I cannot verify it, since I haven't tried it.
Rob
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It won't remove the Knox flag although they MAY not check it or they MAY when I did my warrenty return they did not but that doesn't mean it will always be the case
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hella356 said:
Can anyone shed some light on a couple of points? I currently have the MDL bootloader along with the NB4 modem. This all runs fine with my daily driver (LightSpeed) 4.2.2 ROM, as well as the (Insane Kit Kat) 4.4.2 I've been experimenting with. I do understand that I can't go back to the MDL bootloader if I update. Knox issues aside, is there any actual advantage to having the new bootloader? Since my warranty is running out soon anyways, I'm not too worried about tripping Knox. So, does the NB4 bootloader offer any real performance or feature advantages? Can I still run 4.2.2 or 4.3 ROMs with it, or will it limit me to 4.4.2+ ROMs? Does it impact the usage of different kernels? Thanks!
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If you don't care about knox you better off going to the new bootloader ,the NB4 wifi driver is not present on the MDL bootloader so you still using the old wifi. I notice very strong wifi signal after upgrade to kitkat bootloader to flashed modem and wifi fix.The best way is to flash the NB4 firmware through Odin so you can get everything needed and go from there.

Thanks, makomek. I've been wondering about that, but haven't really found much info beyond the Knox implications. I have gotten an improvement in general phone call stability and download speed with the NB4 modem. Is what your're talking about related to the NON-HLOS.bin being installed? As I recall, that was to improve LTE, but I apparently it's actually related to WiFi. Or could be both? At least it's good to hear there are positive reasons to update the bootloader. Any idea if doing this would lock me into only using KitKat ROMs/kernels, or would 4.2/4.3 still work? Your input is much appreciated.
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If you don't care about knox you better off going to the new bootloader ,the NB4 wifi driver is not present on the MDL bootloader so you still using the old wifi. I notice very strong wifi signal after upgrade to kitkat bootloader to flashed modem and wifi fix.The best way is to flash the NB4 firmware through Odin so you can get everything needed and go from there.
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PaSsAtDrOiD said:
So if Knox counter doesn't matter you can still root device..are you still able to install custom roms? or isn't that possible ATM? Trying to get rid of the severe lag 4.4.2 OTA update has bestowed upon my gf's phone.
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If your girlfriend's phone is stock, unrooted, and she took the OTA, the easiest way to get rid of lag is to factory reset. If she doesn't care about being rooted and just wants the stock rom, this is the easiest way to improve performance. Just start over. OTAs, in my opinion, are like a dirty flash.

Okay to upgrade from 4.1.2?

New to this phone and I am running 4.1.2 there is a system update a 4.3 that's already downloaded and ready to install but I wanted to make sure the update didn't install any new locks on my phone before I accept. I plan on rooting soon.
Thanks
Rich

U get knox but there are ways to still root with knox so go ahead update
High Definition Note II

Uuum hold on. If you plan to root your phone there is no point in allowing the OTA which does install KNOX. Root now and save that extra trouble.

tx_dbs_tx said:
Uuum hold on. If you plan to root your phone there is no point in allowing the OTA which does install KNOX. Root now and save that extra trouble.
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If the poster wants to install 4.3, then accept the update, root, then flash your 4.3 rom.. This way you won't have all those reboot, lock up issues, that people keep on having.. Plus most devs do not have knox filex in their roms.. And you won't have to flash the wifi fix..

I Would Accept It.
doubledragon5 said:
If the poster wants to install 4.3, then accept the update, root, then flash your 4.3 rom.. This way you won't have all those reboot, lock up issues, that people keep on having.. Plus most devs do not have knox filex in their roms.. And you won't have to flash the wifi fix..
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If I was in this position, I would accept the update as doubledragon5 said and move forward with root, etc. I have 4.1.2 right now and want the 4.3 update, but I'm rooted and trying to figure out how to unravel this to get to 4.3 myself.

flashred said:
If I was in this position, I would accept the update as doubledragon5 said and move forward with root, etc. I have 4.1.2 right now and want the 4.3 update, but I'm rooted and trying to figure out how to unravel this to get to 4.3 myself.
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If your rooted, go back to bone stock MC2 like I have mentioned in a few other threads. accept the 4.3 udate from sprint, re-root using the tookit, then flash away...

doubledragon5 said:
If the poster wants to install 4.3, then accept the update, root, then flash your 4.3 rom.. This way you won't have all those reboot, lock up issues, that people keep on having.. Plus most devs do not have knox filex in their roms.. And you won't have to flash the wifi fix..
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doubledragon5 said:
If your rooted, go back to bone stock MC2 like I have mentioned in a few other threads. accept the 4.3 udate from sprint, re-root using the tookit, then flash away...
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Thank you! You're the first to shed some light on this for me. To get back to stock using the toolkit, would I need to first flash stock recovery, then Stock Firmware, then bone stock MC2? Afterwards boot in, accept the update, then re-root using the toolkit.

flashred said:
Thank you! You're the first to shed some light on this for me. To get back to stock using the toolkit, would I need to first flash stock recovery, then Stock Firmware, then bone stock MC2? Afterwards boot in, accept the update, then re-root using the toolkit.
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I'm wondering the same thing. But if we root then accept the OTA won't that enable the knox counter? So that if we now, "flash away".... won't every flash be counted?
Shouldn't we root, then install the custom roms without the knox? Or do the custom roms also include the knox counter tripping mechanism?
I would like to know how this works also.
Thanks.

I just recently came from 4.1.2 rooted running a deoxided stock rom. I didn't do the OTA update to 4.3. I used the TeamRejects Deoxidexed rooted deknoxed stock rom, the updated MK4 modem, and the WiFi fix. It took about 15-20 minutes to get everything done. I needed to download Odin too for WiFi fix. I didn't run the WiFi fix till I knew there was an issue.
Not much of complaint, but I wish there was a kernel like Perseus for TouchWix based roms. The only one I found was Devil Kernel, but for whatever reason, wasn't stable with TeamReject's ROM. I didn't really care for his custom Kernel ajdustment manager and STweaks didn't work with it at all. Ideally, I prefer a stock rooted deknoxed deoxidized bare bones rom (just phone, contacts, google play) so I have a working phone and can access Google Play so I can install the apps I prefer. The closest I found was Classic Rom but it freezes on initial rom load; Plus, I'm not a fan of the colors and the few things he choose to include.

Stock 4.3 Deodexed, deknoxed, Rooted Rom Available?
lovekeiiy said:
I just recently came from 4.1.2 rooted running a deoxided stock rom. I didn't do the OTA update to 4.3. I used the TeamRejects Deoxidexed rooted deknoxed stock rom, the updated MK4 modem, and the WiFi fix. It took about 15-20 minutes to get everything done. I needed to download Odin too for WiFi fix. I didn't run the WiFi fix till I knew there was an issue.
Not much of complaint, but I wish there was a kernel like Perseus for TouchWix based roms. The only one I found was Devil Kernel, but for whatever reason, wasn't stable with TeamReject's ROM. I didn't really care for his custom Kernel ajdustment manager and STweaks didn't work with it at all. Ideally, I prefer a stock rooted deknoxed deoxidized bare bones rom (just phone, contacts, google play) so I have a working phone and can access Google Play so I can install the apps I prefer. The closest I found was Classic Rom but it freezes on initial rom load; Plus, I'm not a fan of the colors and the few things he choose to include.
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So, you came exactly where I did except you with a different ROM. I would like to get from my 4.1.2 rooted up to 4.3 rooted stock,deodexed, deknoxed if at all possible.

flashred said:
Thank you! You're the first to shed some light on this for me. To get back to stock using the toolkit, would I need to first flash stock recovery, then Stock Firmware, then bone stock MC2? Afterwards boot in, accept the update, then re-root using the toolkit.
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Sorry for not getting back sooner. I have been busy with work, and family things.Use billards return to full stock with counter reset. It installs everything including recovery, boot loader,firemware etc... Then set up your phone, when prompt accept the ota update.. Once done retoot, and flash what ever 4.3 rom you want.. The knox counter will still be there, but if you need a trip back to Sprint, go back to Full MC2 stock, knox counter will no longer be there.. Most 4.3 room do not include the Knox files so no worries there.

flashred said:
So, you came exactly where I did except you with a different ROM. I would like to get from my 4.1.2 rooted up to 4.3 rooted stock,deodexed, deknoxed if at all possible.
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Sounds like it. The odd part, I have been able to flash Reject's stock deoxidezed deknoxed rom with no problem. I tried to flash Classic 3, but it froze on Classic's initial loading page (the one after the Samsung boot loader). I had issues another rom, but turned out it was for the international model; I wasn't paying attention where I was in the forums.
If you do what I did, you'll need to flash modem update using Odin on the PC. So, you may need to download Odin.
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Depending on what you like to do, you may find 4.3 MK4 more limiting, espcially on the TouchWiz side. AOSP probably more mod friendly at this point. From what I've been able to find, there is only one custom kernal for 4.3 TouchWiz which is Devil's Kernal. It's solid, but my phone was unstable. Not sure if the phone since I may have taken out something it used when I was trying to debloat the phone. Didn't care for his Kernel Tweak manager. Neither the stock or devil's kernal supports Stweaks. Neither I could figure out how to change the boat loading animation.
I have nothing against AOSP projects. I like them. But as far as I know, none support the Spen, which I like to use with web browsers. Don't use the Samnsung Spen apps. Just wasn't that impressed with them, but I see how they can be useful. Although, SketchPro is really nice with it. I just find TouchWiz is more than sufficient for my needs and stock isn't as quirky.